Just wondering what peoples thoughts are about granting su. I've always used supersu by chainfire since the day i first rooted my n7. But I've heard lots of good things about the new superuser from clockworkmod (koush).. Its open source, supports multi user, can be integrated directly into a ROM (ie in system and settings menu). Actually the ROM i use now has it integrated into the system. Haven't had any problems with it yet, but i never really had any problems with supersu either. What do all ya'll prefer?
I now use Koush's Superuser app. Its designed for the new Jelly Bean multiusers scheme, you can for example select for only owner to have root access. I also like the option of having to enter PIN number to allow root access for new apps.
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I found this video from IEEE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KMMfxOoCjg&sns=em In the video it looks like they are using an option in superuserex to modify permissions, but superuserex requires recovery to update the binary code. I installed the apk and updated chainfire superuser, so I'm wondering if any more security is necessary. I found this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lbe.security.lite but it doesn't seem to work with kitkat. I noticed some threads about LBE but wasn't able to figure out if there is a fix to use it on my phone and mabey my SM-P600.
So ...... I bought a copy of Titanium Backup to backup/freeze/erase the unneeded stuff. Installed Sdfix and backed up everything to SDcard. Is there a list or easy method for determining what I can freeze/wipe?
Think I'm gonna leave it at Kitkat for now. It appears to work and does what I need it to do. How long do you think I can get away without upgrading for new mainstream features, etc?
Edit to add: Reading on XDA, I found info on some really interesting privacy apps called "Xprivacy" and AFWall+. Xprivacy allows you to restrict individual permissions on apps and AFWall+ is a really simple firewall. It's worth your time for a look if you value your privacy and security.
github.com/M66B/XPrivacy (prefix is https)
In preparation for the impending upgrade to Android 6 Marshmallow, I'm trying an experiment on my Android 5 based Zenfone 2. I'm going to see how annoying it is to give up root. The first thing I did on my first android phone was root it, so I've only every used rooted Android devices.
Prologue:
Root on Android 6 (usually) requires an unlocked bootloader, because root is achieved by modifying the boot image to inject su into the system. That way the system image is left unmodified and can continue to pass dm-verity checks.
At the moment, there does not appear to be anyway on the Zenfone 2 to unlock the Marshmallow beta bootloader, and it also appears to relock any unlocked bootloader. In fact, the droidboot binary in the droidboot.img of the Marshmallow beta contains the strings rm -rf /factory/asuskey and rm -rf /factory/asussignature. droidboot also contains the strings unlock successfully...reboot after 5 seconds and **** Unlock bootloader? **** as well as other strings referring to unlock (droidboot from the .184 Lollipop also has those strings). So, my hope is that there is a simple way to unlock the bootloader, which will be revealed by Asus, or discovered by somebody.
My thought is that worst case those of us who want root will use an unlockable Lollipop bootloader with a Cyanogenmod 13.1 based ROM created with updates from the Asus Marshmallow source code.
Experiment:
I've removed Xposed and SuperSU from my phone. Making it stock Android 5. I'm documenting here the functionality that I lose. The first goal is for my own amusement to keep a log of what I'm giving up.
The second goal, and probably the major one, is to solicit suggestions on what can be done to replace the functionality I'm losing.
What I'm giving up:
AdAway - No system wide ad blocking. Firefox with uBlock Origin should cover blocking ads on the web. I usually buy apps I use frequently, but I'll have to see which ones are annoying with ads. I'm aware of the VPN based ad blocking methods, but I'll have to wait and see if it comes to that.
AFWall+ - Using root to improve security... I mostly use this to prevent some apps from using mobile data, and to prevent some apps from gaining network access at all.
BetterBatteryStatus - It works in non-root mode, but not as well.
BusyBox - Without root, there isn't much need for this anyway.
Cryptfs Password - Once again, security is harmed by removing root. This allowed my encryption pin to be different (and much longer) than my screen lock pin. I don't want to type 10 digits to unlock my screen, but it's fine for booting.
Greenify - This definitely kept some aps in check, but perhaps Asus' Auto-Start Manager will be able to replace it.
GSam Battery Monitor - Like BetterBatteryStatus, this had a root component to provide more information.
Kernel Adiutor - For some reason my phone seemed to only go to 1.8ghz instead of 2.3ghz, so I used this to fix it.
Linux Deploy - I never used the Linux chroot image for much, but it was a cute toy.
Secure Settings - This let tasker automate adjusting some things which require root to change.
Titanium Backup - This is a massive loss in functionality. Simply having backups is tremendously important. The ability to freeze unwanted system apps is also nice. I can reload many of my apps from Google, but not all of them bother to save their settings in the Google backup. Ohh, the bloat!
Trimmer (fstrim) - Probably not really necessary, anyway.
Xposed
Amplify - It saved me lots of wakeups, but I don't know if it really did much to increase battery life.
Fix Lollipop Memory Leak - I don't know if this did anything, either.
GravityBox [LP] - I didn't tweak too much, but what I did change was really useful.
NetStrength - I like replacing my wifi bars with useful information.
ProtectMyPrivacy - The permission settings in Marshmallow would make this obsolete anyway.
YouTube AdAway - Nice, but not required.
What I'm gaining:
Android Pay - I guess I can play with this now.
AFWall+ - Using root to improve security... I mostly use this to prevent some apps from using mobile data, and to prevent some apps from gaining network access at all.
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Asus has integrated a firewall iptables recent months.
Asus mobile manager -> User Data -> Restrict (bottom of screen)
For the rest, no root is to accept to take along twice monitoring tools of an advertising billboard.
Keep in mind that Google is an advertising agency that is desperate to earn money, including harassment to get the maximum information.
Its purpose, despite what he claims, is not to improve people's lives, but his bank account.
Android is a disguised tools for Google, not for the people who is a commodity to be exploited.
I'm gonna miss Adaway and Afwall+ the most. Afwall+ is much better than the Asus built in firewall. You can disable net access by default for newly installed app. You are notified to set firewall rules when you install an app. You can filter apps to be set. If only Asus could provide a such a bunch of feature for their firewall, I won't miss root so much.
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IDEDALE said:
Asus has integrated a firewall iptables recent months.
Asus mobile manager -> User Data -> Restrict (bottom of screen)
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Thanks for the info about the functionality in Asus Mobile Manager, I didn't know that.
As far as Adaway goes, try this https://block-this.com
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IDEDALE said:
Asus has integrated a firewall iptables recent months.
Asus mobile manager -> User Data -> Restrict (bottom of screen)
For the rest, no root is to accept to take along twice monitoring tools of an advertising billboard.
Keep in mind that Google is an advertising agency that is desperate to earn money, including harassment to get the maximum information.
Its purpose, despite what he claims, is not to improve people's lives, but his bank account.
Android is a disguised tools for Google, not for the people who is a commodity to be exploited.
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Agree with most of that... unfortunately the ASUS mobile manager "firewall" doesn't work any more on the current marshmallow beta.
It's still there, but it seems not to work for blocking apps.
The new app permission system in MM may be used to prevent apps from connecting around, in theory at least, but I'm not sure how effective that is.
This phone without root absolutely sucks. There's a thread on the ASUS forum, guy has links to pre rooted system images but I haven't tried it.
http://www.asus.com/zentalk/thread-39487-1-1.html
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The thread mentioned was opened in September '15... Didn't try downloading the files but can't imagine that there's a pre-rooted file out there already. Somebody would have known and told us, I guess
If anyone tried and it works, may you leave a line!
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nfc expert said:
if you want stop ad without root, you can try this : https://block-this.com/
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kenbo111 said:
As far as Adaway goes, try this https://block-this.com
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There are several other VPN based ad blockers as well. AdClear, AdGuard, and I think some more.
I played with some of them when they first started coming out, but always returned to the host file based blocker, because it was easy and worked fine with root. I think the phone has plenty of RAM and CPU to run these VPN ones, but I haven't been annoyed to try them again. So far uBlock Origin in Firefox has been fine. In the almost two days since unrooting I've used one app which shows me ads.
IDEDALE said:
Asus has integrated a firewall iptables recent months.
Asus mobile manager -> User Data -> Restrict (bottom of screen)
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Thanks for the tip, I didn't know about it. This was easy enough to setup, even if it doesn't have as many features as AFWall+. I haven't tested to make sure it works.
My idea to get root on Asus' Marshmallow release is to install just the system, but keep the unlocked bootloader and ifwi from Lollipop. It should be easy enough to modify the updater script to only flash the system and boot image, while leaving the bootloader and ifwi alone. I don't know if that will work, or if the system will crash when it finds an old ifwi, or if the bootloader will fail to load the new system. With an unlocked bootloader, root is trivial.
As long as the bootloader is in place, it should be easy to recover from a broken system.
Don't take my word for it though, these are just ideas, and I'm not ready to try them yet. My warranty is over at the end of the month, so I'll unlock my bootloader then.
Hi,
I am very new to Systemless root and it seems littlebit confusing for me.
I have few problems. I am using Magisk Systemless ROOT on my 1+5 with Android 7.1.1
I already know that because of non-editable /system i can't delete or upgrade system apps. But my bigger problem is for example with F***dom app. I know that warez is not supported here so I am asking only for educational purposes (or whatever). F***dom not working at all. My pay card still showing (Fallout Shelter, Fruit Ninja, etc.). Even L***y Pat***r not work well. I am still getting errors when trying to patch Fallout or any other apps. One of the least problem is with busybox. Why I cant install busybox to /system/bin but to /system/xbin yes?
Is there any way how to make system root work like nornal root? I really want use my old apps. Not just Freedom, but for example Titanium Backup not working too.
Titanium Backup definitely works with systemless root. When you go into the Magisk Manager app does it actually show that you are rooted? When you click on the Safety Net check in Magisk Manager what message do you get?
I am using Magisk systemless root and it works.
So you're probably not rooted at all. And I did not even had to install busybox either.
jhs39 said:
Titanium Backup definitely works with systemless root. When you go into the Magisk Manager app does it actually show that you are rooted? When you click on the Safety Net check in Magisk Manager what message do you get?
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I am rooted. Safety Net is ok when Hide Root setting is selected in Magisk. Apps normally get root access but as I said some of them not work properly. Busybox throw error when installing to /system/bin
Titanium Backup not recover system apps or data.
And what about freedom?
There's actually a dedicated support thread on XDA for Magisk. Since your issue seems to be very Magisk specific rather than a OP5 issue you would probably have more success posting your question there.
Just a reminder to all. No mentions of lucky patcher or freedom are allowed in the forums as they are warez/malware apps.
ScottDGoodman said:
Freedom APK v2.0.8 is an Android application which will give you a chance to open the top notch highlights of prevalent recreations free of cost.
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That app is also banned on xda as are all Warez apps.
I highly recommend you delete this post and go somewhere else before more aggressive devs start waking up
XDA's tag line is "XDA Developers was founded by developers, for developers. " and you come in here waving your middle finger around saying developers' time and energy is worthless and your deserve it all for fee, and your entitled ass comes here asking for more help exploiting devs.
Help specific to LP, Freedom, and all other exploitive apps is forbidden here. #GoAway
And all that aside, your question has been asked 1000x by legit users. Spending even 10-15 seconds researching the problem would yield a result. #LMGTFY