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Is it advisable to purchase any particular app from the Samsung App Store or should one buy it from the Android Market?
In my opinion, one should prefer to buy any particular app from the android market rather than Samsung Appstore which is yet to grow with even basic professional relevance!!!
I am saying this after I have had this experience...
Last week I bought SPLASHTOP REMOTE DESKTOP from Samsung App store on my Galaxy Note for about 0.99 USD. There were few noticeable differences:
First thing I immediately noticed was that the version I downloaded (1.6.0.5) was OLDER than the corresponding one available (1.6.5.6) on Android Market.
Still I preferred to buy the app from Samsung App store as it was much cheaper (0.99 USD) as compared to the one available on android market (USD 4.99).
Just two days after this I noticed the CERAMIC WHITE model of NOTE and of course could not resist the temptation of owning it, so gifted my (erstwhile) dark blue NOTE to my bro (after factory resetting it!!!, which my bro is now using with all his relevant google/samsung account credentials!!)
And this is where I learnt that because I "changed" my device, I can not REDOWNLOAD my "purchased" app from SAMSUNG APP STORE despite regitering with same Samsung Apps account!!. This is so very weird, as I have been seamlessly transitioning my all apps to my all new devices just by ensuring that I have the same google/android account registered on my new device.
I tried to restore my app through Kies, but in vain, then I tried to get in touch with customer support at Sumsung App Store and which is when I noticed that that they have a very LOUSY and LAME UI, that just leads no where.
Needless to mention, I purchased the app again, but this time from the android market. Although I had to shell out USD 4.99 (instead of 0.99), I find its worth it as now I have a app, that is LATEST VERSION (yes, in this example of splashtop, it has significant change of opting for custom resolution of native device), and that I will be able to use on as long as I want, even after I move over to any new device (of course there is nothing better than Galaxy Note as of now!!).
So in conclusion, Samsung App store SUCKS while Android Market is far much ahead. Thus in my opinion, assuming all fundamentals remain uniform, its better to purchase an APP from ANDROID MARKET rather that Samsung App Store!!!
Go on getjar.com and download the getjar app. Follow this link getjar.com/mobile/76092/splashtop-r...1exu1ijoujnhdvyb&c=byosqnnawl4xis5cC9&lang=en and you'll have it for free.
Personally I uninstall getjar afterwards as it is running as service in the background.
As these paid apps are offered for free they are not updated by the android market.
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It is simple thing, Samsung application can be redownloaded to Samsung device only, (and it is even more strange when it not supports change of device.)
Android purchase will work with any Android device, if you change in future, as it is linked to your Gmail.
And thats Y i think, samsung store provides somwat cheaper thn Android Market. But in long term it cost more.
Very right dr.ketan, its indeed strange that it does not support device change too even if one changes to a different device of Samsung make!! And that's why I reiterate that although on one end they make superb devices as NOTE, on the other end soft serves like their app store, their kies... lack professional relevance
I wish Samsung guys are serious enough to listen to the forum members and take all this as feedback to improve their soft services with needful
"And this is where I learnt that because I "changed" my device, I can not REDOWNLOAD my "purchased" app from SAMSUNG APP STORE despite regitering with same Samsung Apps account!!"
For me, the solution to this is... If I buy something, I own it (which is why I don't buy apple). I can make a back up of CD's, DVD's etc.. that I have paid for. It is the same with apps. I don't care if I'm slated/criticised/abused, after I have bought an app I will find an apk on the net as a backup should I change my phone or flash it. or use 'app backup and restore'.
I have spent far too much time in the past with customer (don't)care trying to find out if they would let me redownload apps I have purchased when I change my phone..
If i purchase an App from Android Market.... And if i change my phone say after 2 years OR Hard Reset, will i still be able to download it to my new phone just by login into my google account? Also, for how long does the developer provide update once purchased an app...
craige said:
If i purchase an App from Android Market.... And if i change my phone say after 2 years OR Hard Reset, will i still be able to download it to my new phone just by login into my google account? Also, for how long does the developer provide update once purchased an app...
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As I have experienced, you may change or hard reset you device unlimited times and still you will continue to enjoy the benefits of being a licensed user of the app, and thus you will be able to download it unlimited times, as long as you continue to have android OS and the same GOOGLE account.
As far as developers support is concerned, I have no precise idea on this, although I feel the support depends on developers commitment to the product. May be I should add here that as I have seen in last 2 years (ever since I am using android) I have been getting updates to my older apps even now, if at all there is a newer version.
Even on the Android market you can have trouble if either google or the developer remove the paid app or release a different version then the old app you purchased is no longer there so if you change your device then you are stuffed and either have to purchase your asp again or you won't get it. For example see the dice player which had paid versions but google removed it and now only free advertisement supported version is available.see comments section for the asp where paid customers are cribbing that now they can't instal paid app on new phone.
Loads of other examples like train times UK app had free version two years ago without ads but later was removed and new paid version came up but when you get new phone then the old asp no longer existson the market.
I thought this was pretty BS, and wanted to share this. I bought the games less than 2 months ago and wanted to download them to my new Note. Here is their response back to me.
"Unfortunately, you can not get the games back on your new phone. According to Gameloft policy if you buy a game, you can re-download it to the same phone with the same phone number within 3 years of your purchase. If the phone model or number was changed by the customer's own initiative, Gameloft has the right to refuse re-sending the game.
You can not re-download or transfer games which you bought on your old phone (model 1) to the new phone (model 2), because we produce each game-build for one particular phone to ensure the best quality and to prevent piracy. If you want to have games on your new phone, I'm afraid you will have to buy them again.
Sorry for the inconveniences. If you have any other questions, please let me know.
Best regards, -------------------------------Deepesh Mohan Customer Care Agent http://www.gameloft.com/"
great way to prevent piracy...
not!
Yeah, i don't like Gameloft and this is a good reason to not buy anything from them. They won't change their policy as long as customers are "fine" with it.
I got 20 of their hd games for free through torrents.
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scottmog said:
I got 20 of their hd games for free through torrents.
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Yah, seems increasingly like in the name of "piracy" (think DRM) the paying user is the one that gets hurt the most.
Honestly, I'm not going to cry over a few dollars, but I'm very shocked that they are taking this stance. All they had to do to keep me happy was very simple, but yet they still refused. To me that's a smack in the face.
I don't think they believe in good customer service. Even the customer service person replied somewhat apologetically that they do not offer refunds.
Had purchased the Adventures of Tintin game for the SGS2, then upgraded to the Note about 1 month after the purchase, only to find out the game was incompatible. When the game was first released, there were no indications that it was not compatible with any devices. To a not very techie layperson, it would make sense for a game that runs on tablets--the ipad reportedly has it--to run on a phone too.
Because of this incident, I'm thinking of boycotting their games, not that they're that fantastic to the fairer gender anyway!
This is why ios wins, I'm niether an apple fan boy nor android fan boy and please nobody hate on me but I love my android phone and all but you cannot deny that apple basically is an efficient OS wise, you would never have such issues on apple devices. Don't get me wrong android has its perks with a variety of phones designs and brands but honestly I think iOS is the best mobile operating system out there. And don't get me started about their app store or iTunes, unlike android you wouldn't need to trouble yourself rooting and downloading market enabler just so you can enjoy the us version of the app store, isn't a pain when you need to do in apply purchases
Bottom line ANDROID needs to upgrade their market together with ICS update
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"because we produce each game-build for one particular phone to ensure the best quality and to prevent piracy"
That made me laugh! isn't this the perfect way to encourage piracy? As I have said elsewhere, When I purchase any app/game I then find the apk as a backup. It's mine, I paid for it, and I will bloody well do what I want with it other than sharing. That's my 'policy'
To use the app you bought you have to prove every time again that you are using the app on the same device that bought the app. Every time they check your phone id, your phone number, your market account, your exact gps position.
Soon they will require that you use the app on the same phone, same network provider, same market account, same phone number, same country, and maximum 50 km distance from the gps position you had when you bought the app.
Not joking.
Not the story they told me when I bought a few games few months ago. When I enquired that I was soon going to buy another phone and asked if I buy games if I can get the game on my new phone like on the Android market, they said yes. Don't remember if I called them our asked on their website. Haven't yet had time to get the apk off my old phone and pt it in my new phone.guess my games that I bought won't work on my new note too contrary to what was told to me by them. In that scenario if they deliberately gave me wrong information then I will find other ways to play the game I legally bought.
I am about to port my number to another mobile provider guess they will now try to block the games I bought on my note.isn't that a restrictive trade practice preventing customers from changing mobile providers. Obviously the New network will give me a new Sim card even when they port my number.
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Haven't yet had time to get the apk off my old phone and pt it in my new phone.guess my games that I bought won't work on my new note too contrary to what was told to me by them. In that scenario if they deliberately gave me wrong information then I will find other ways to play the game I legally bought.
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I also kept the apk I downloaded and it is labelled as compatible for a "Droid X." Howver, 2 of the 3 I bought worked on my Note. So there is still a chance your games will work, but I can't say for sure.
Somebody please tip the XDA crew about this and maybe they'll put it on the Portal. I had no idea that they could refuse re-download if you change your phone and I think the news need to be spread so that we can decide if we want to buy software from such companies or not. I always liked to pay for Android software since I know I'll be able to use it long term... I wont buy Gameloft games anymore, that's for sure.
Brgds... /Tubgirl
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Tubgirl said:
Somebody please tip the XDA crew about this and maybe they'll put it on the Portal. I had no idea that they could refuse re-download if you change your phone and I think the news need to be spread so that we can decide if we want to buy software from such companies or not. I always liked to pay for Android software since I know I'll be able to use it long term... I wont buy Gameloft games anymore, that's for sure.
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I agree! Honestly it is easier to just go to 4shared and download a pirated copy that won't be limited to a single device, but I like to support developers who create good apps/games or else where would we be?
I don't know... this was pretty BS
legion1911 said:
Soon they will require that you use the app on the same phone, same network provider, same market account, same phone number, same country, and maximum 50 km distance from the gps position you had when you bought the app.
Not joking.
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source?
and how do they plan to enforce that?
i bought a few games from them and denied this checks from the beginning on with LBE privacy guard
what's when i'm abroad on vacation or a business trip??
i wont be able to play my LICENSED game??
must be a joke, no?
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must be a joke, no?
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Yah, he's being sarcastic, but I think what he is pointing out is just how far they could go if they wanted to.
my case was an update of the famos UNO HD. i told them that the quality sucked on my NOTE but the on the galaxy tab 7(original) works a charm... downloads the additional files.. but on my not does not download anything.. but game works...
they said there is nothing they can do cause the game is not compatible with note....WTF dont think it takes that much to update n7000 in the program so it recognizes it as a hd product and download.... ah well....its this kind of service and attitude that leads people to torrents.....you wont support what i bought then will download it will the additional files....
I downloaded apps from Samsung (gameloft) and saved the APK from my SGSII (like Dead Space) and installed it on my note, and it worked fine.
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godwinvandamme said:
my case was an update of the famos UNO HD. i told them that the quality sucked on my NOTE but the on the galaxy tab 7(original) works a charm... downloads the additional files.. but on my not does not download anything.. but game works...
they said there is nothing they can do cause the game is not compatible with note....WTF dont think it takes that much to update n7000 in the program so it recognizes it as a hd product and download.... ah well....its this kind of service and attitude that leads people to torrents.....you wont support what i bought then will download it will the additional files....
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I totally agree. When I see I can't download something for my Note, I download it for my SGSII and save the APK and MOST of the time it works fine! Arg... Silly developers.
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source?
and how do they plan to enforce that?
i bought a few games from them and denied this checks from the beginning on with LBE privacy guard
what's when i'm abroad on vacation or a business trip??
i wont be able to play my LICENSED game??
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I am writing what they can do with all the data they collect. But it is not so unlikely to happen. For example on phone networks they check whether a phone moves too far too soon (last position in Paris, 3 minutes later in Berlin, 2 minutes later in Rome) to find phone hackers. Since many apps are collecting your gps position and getting again your gps position when you start the app again...
It will be easy to give you a geographically restricted license. For example a free license only for clients with GPS position in Europe.
Or the app costs 5$ for US clients, 5 euro for EU clients, 5 Hong Kong dollars for HK clients and to enforce that, the US license can only be used inside the US.
I "bought" some apps from the Samsung app store for free.
I denied to show my phone ID, like you.
Now some of them will not start because:
1) i do not allow them to check my phone ID to verify my free license
2) if i allow them to check my phone ID, they do not have in their records that my phone ID bought the free app, so I must be a criminal.
We must INSTALL LBE PRIVACY + DROIDWALL to stop this nonsense, before it is too late and this becomes a standard procedure.
Honestly the only other way I'd buy again is if all my purchases stayed linked to my Google account. But, God forbid that mean less profit for Gameloft.
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source?
and how do they plan to enforce that?
i bought a few games from them and denied this checks from the beginning on with LBE privacy guard
what's when i'm abroad on vacation or a business trip??
i wont be able to play my LICENSED game??
must be a joke, no?
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Well .... they did this with PC games & DVDs quite happily. When I migrated to Oz, all my UK games and DVDs would not work on Australian PCs / DVD players. How that for a massive rip-off?
Piracy? Hmmmm ... that's an idea, now!
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DRM causes more piracy than it could ever prevent. One crack, one upload, millions of pirates.
Fact of digital life.
Just wanted to share what has happend to me. I purchased about $15 worth of credits to use with Modern Combat 3. Things went good for a week or so and then my MC3 game just kept telling me my phone was not compatible and wouldnt load the game. So after clearing cache and trying a few other things I figured the best thing to do would be to uninstall and reinstall the game to see if that fixed the problem. Only to discover that after I had done everything found all my in app purchased credits gone even though I made a backup of my data, save files, etc and restoerd them back to the game.
I emailed GL and this was the reply:
Gameloft Customer Care to me
show details 5:01 AM (3 hours ago)
Hello!
Thank you for your letter to Gameloft Customer Care.
I'm very sorry for what has happened.
Could you please provide me with more detail about your issue?
Unfortunately, when you redownload the game, the in-app purchases are not saved. As we do not have a technical ability to return the in-app purchases, points or weapons, I can only offer you 3 free games to compensate you the charges.
In order to see the games compatible with your phone model, please, type Gameloft in the search engine of your wap browser and you'll be re-directed to the page with the games available for your device.
Please, write me back the names of the games you'd like to get, the exact model of your phone and your complete mobgile phone number with the country code.
Waiting for your reply.
Best regards,
So granted they are offering me $15 in 3 free games, truth is I have all the games I want from them, but still they are trying to compensate me. But again I would rather have my credits, guns, etc back. Sorry for the long post but wanted to share this with others so they do not get into the same situation as me.
Gameloft have some really good games, Although they need to start using Android market, Until they do or some how save your purchases I'm not going to buy that much gameloft games.
But Gameloft said their stats, weapons and cash is saved via their servers (through Gameloft LIVE).
You seem to have gotten lucky, my experiences with their support didn't even go that well.
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But Gameloft said their stats, weapons and cash is saved via their servers (through Gameloft LIVE).
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Gameloft LIVE sucks.
I have 11 Gameloft games, all of which show up in there as that I own them, but only ONE (MC2) actually tracked my stats. The others its like I never played them.
use GAME CIH
cheat engine to get all your purchases back.
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You seem to have gotten lucky, my experiences with their support didn't even go that well.
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You're right. However, you would get your money back if you contacted Apple or BB or Google play or Amazon. I purchased Asphalt7 for my blackberry z10. After I reinstalled it, my in-game credits disappeared. I emailed Gameloft but they didn't answer my email. I contacted BB customer service and explained my case. BB gave me a full refund including in-game credits.
I purchased wild blood for HTC One. Of course, I paid for in-game credits too. Google gave me a full refund after emailing them and telling them that I didn't like to submit any documentation for their verification.
Didn't Google Play changed the Policy about inapp purchases?...
I think any inapp purchase will be handled by Google instead of the Dev.
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Didn't you know?
Gameloft is the new EA...
Just a questionaire, i'm trying to do some market research as I begin my personal app development project after I have finished my studies, thanks.
OK so what are the questions?
Yeah.. I pay for my apps.
Hi,
I would've loved a multiple-choice questionnaire because price is not the deciding factor. I paid 4,99 € for Juice Defender Ultimate without blinking, but I wouldn't pay a dime for an app that is half-way done, ugly and doesn't do what I need to.
Do ask if you want to know more about my buyer profile.
Cheers!
I pay for apps when the f4ck1ng Playstore lets me. Since I'm a citizen of an exotic European country, the Market has allowed me to buy just 1 app so far (Root Uninstaller). The other one (Titanium) I could buy off the dev directly. Other than that - "This app is not compatible with your N7000", meaning fcuk off.
As a result of that, I'm forced to use just free apps - not that I need many anyway - but it's humiliating and degrading.
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I pay for apps when the f4ck1ng Playstore lets me. Since I'm a citizen of an exotic European country, the Market has allowed me to buy just 1 app so far (Root Uninstaller). The other one (Titanium) I could buy off the dev directly. Other than that - "This app is not compatible with your N7000", meaning fcuk off.
As a result of that, I'm forced to use just free apps - not that I need many anyway - but it's humiliating and degrading.
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That's unbelievable... what a fuc.. shame!!
What's the reasons (if any..) ?
If its worth it. I'm 50/50. Depends on quality.
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A free (limited functionality or ad supported) version to ensure it works properly on my devices with an in app purchase to unlock the full version. That last part is what I find missing in a lot of games and I hate starting over because I decided to buy the full/ad-less version
there should be an option saying " when the play store is available in your country !!"
it's sickening how one would like to buy stuff only to find that he's being blocked due to geo-based restrictions ,even when using market unlocker I still can't buy paid apps.
actually I once went through the trouble of creating a fake US address just to buy "Set cpu" from Amazon app store ,cause that's the only app store I can fool ,and even that is getting harder to do now a days.
it's just frustrating you know.......not to mention makes devs lose potential sales.
I've bought more apps in my 2.5 months on android, than my previous 3 years in iOS. Interestingly, there are more apps in the android world that I'm willing to pay for.
Ive recently just came over to the android community previously being an iphone user. Any apps i bought through the appstore i have repurchased through the marketplace. I find aslong as there is value for money then i will pay for it
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I pay for apps when the f4ck1ng Playstore lets me. Since I'm a citizen of an exotic European country, the Market has allowed me to buy just 1 app so far (Root Uninstaller). The other one (Titanium) I could buy off the dev directly. Other than that - "This app is not compatible with your N7000", meaning fcuk off.
As a result of that, I'm forced to use just free apps - not that I need many anyway - but it's humiliating and degrading.
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Hey brother, have you seen this :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24454758
Oh and on topic : I am buy all my apps. Think I spend about 100 bucks on play store by now....
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A free (limited functionality or ad supported) version to ensure it works properly on my devices with an in app purchase to unlock the full version. That last part is what I find missing in a lot of games and I hate starting over because I decided to buy the full/ad-less version
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Same here
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Hi all, today I present to you a very exciting announcement, In late 2012, early 2013. I will be releasing a windows 8 unofficial market. The reason is because microsoft requires developers to pay 50$ Just to submit apps, but the unofficial Market will Have a free submition solution that should please many members, a website will be Released In a week to discuss this new market. I hope to Get lots Of support and I will need it.
Sounds interesting. When more details become available, I think you may gain more interest then, but this is an interesting announcement for sure.
Sounds great but not to burst any bubbles (we know what Microsoft is trying to accomplish with the cloud and access to their platform) Unless we are talking about a way to block Microsoft to uninstall the unapproved apps this annoucement might have to be reviewed.
I agree with OP here but let's exploit the ability to block that feature first.
Cheers!
Good luck...I'm not a programmer but I will support buying just like with android apps.
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I trust you will be vetting everything for malicious or illegal content?
Sounds really interesting,good luck bro.