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So Amazon announced the new Kindle HDX.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/09/25/amazon-debuts-kindle-fire-hdx-7-and-8-9-inch-tablets-we-go-han/
Also available for pre-order already.
http://www.amazon.com/Kindle-Fire-HDX-Display-Wi-Fi/dp/B00BHJRYYS
Comes with a new JB based OS. Some articles suggesting its likely we'll get an update to the new OS. Especially likely given that they are retooling the 2012 HD and continuing to sell it.
They looks like beasts of a machine though. s800 quad, ardrino 330 gpu. Wouldn't mind the upgrade....
I hope we find out more details as to how exploitable it will be considering I don't like their stock os, and we would have to assume someone like hashcode would be willing to make a ROM for it if it was even exploitable, I don't know anything about snapdragon processors so I don't know if they have any similar security implementations like the m-shield. On another note, it has no minihdmi plug, I find that annoying because as the article says you need something like a smart TV or a ps3/ps4 to use the method it uses to play things on your TV, which not all people have... Sorry if this sounds pessimistic, I would totally buy it though if it gets exploited to a point we can flash custom roms.
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stunts513 said:
I hope we find out more details as to how exploitable it will be considering I don't like their stock os, and we would have to assume someone like hashcode would be willing to make a ROM for it if it was even exploitable, I don't know anything about snapdragon processors so I don't know if they have any similar security implementations like the m-shield. On another note, it has no minihdmi plug, I find that annoying because as the article says you need something like a smart TV or a ps3/ps4 to use the method it uses to play things on your TV, which not all people have... Sorry if this sounds pessimistic, I would totally buy it though if it gets exploited to a point we can flash custom roms.
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is android 4.2.2. fire os 3.0 is based in android 4.2.2 and the old kindle is receiving the update
Eh... The fact that they only went from 1 to 2GB of RAM from HD8.9 to HDX8.9 is kind of silly.
This is 2013 and RAM is easy to come by and more useful than ever. 2GB of ram doesn't even fit the minimum requirements of some applications these days. Not to mention that when you're using a quad core processor more than 2GB of ram will come in very handy....
Maybe if they cut the price in half it'd be worth buying... They should have thought this through a little more....
I agree ram is cheap but let's not throw ram and speed at what a programmer can do with less. my wife's infuse runs jelly bean on a single core and 512 megs and it runs most apps just fine or at least as well as my moto m
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Personally I'm glad it at least doubled the ram, my kindle running cm 10.1 at idle with nothing running is usually using about 62% of my ram, and when i launch a web browser it really lags and my ram usage is usually anywhere around 85-90%. I find it funny now days 2gb of ram isn't considered much, back when I was younger it was considered a lot to have half a GB, heck my current PC only has 2gb of ram.
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Great specs and price for the Wi-Fi 16/32GB ones. I might get HDX over the Nexus 7 2013. No built-in GPS is the biggest turn-off for me, though.
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... and the old kindle is receiving the update
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Thats great news, but where did you see that?
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Thats great news, but where did you see that?
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I think that was a question.
stunts513 said:
I find it funny now days 2gb of ram isn't considered much, back when I was younger it was considered a lot to have half a GB, heck my current PC only has 2gb of ram.
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I remember one day paying $400 for 4 MB of ram. I don't even want to think what I was paying per Gb when I went from 256k to 640k on my 8088.
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i talked to amazon support, they said me that they are updating the kindle fire hd to the fire os. future kinology in android 4.2.2 ?
Fire OS 3.0 is not coming to 2012 devices(look at usuable space on devices)
amazon support isnt an exactly reliable source especially when amazon pushes mystery updates and support cant tell you what it is
2013 7" kfhd does not have a camera, mic, hdmi, and wifi is single antenna(not MIMO)
as impressive the hdx's specs are nice but the bootloaders gonna be locked(unlocking will most likely break some feature or most likely brick it)
if you noticed all the 2013 16 gigs only have 10.9 gigs of usuable space. they upped the bloat from 2012 models have 12.6 gigs
amazon included a charger but jacked the price up for the device
second screen is crap even if you had a streaming device(IE roku) you would rather just use the devices remote or the Google play app of said device which you know wont be in amazon's app system and doesn't make up for lack of video output.
just beware Qualcomm and Amazon just doesn't sound good for users of this forum
Keep in mind that the kindle fire 1 and two are two totally different OS's but the same look
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i talked to amazon support, they said me that they are updating the kindle fire hd to the fire os. future kinology in android 4.2.2 ?
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Sweeet!
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Maromi said:
Fire OS 3.0 is not coming to 2012 devices(look at usuable space on devices)
amazon support isnt an exactly reliable source especially when amazon pushes mystery updates and support cant tell you what it is
2013 7" kfhd does not have a camera, mic, hdmi, and wifi is single antenna(not MIMO)
as impressive the hdx's specs are nice but the bootloaders gonna be locked(unlocking will most likely break some feature or most likely brick it)
if you noticed all the 2013 16 gigs only have 10.9 gigs of usuable space. they upped the bloat from 2012 models have 12.6 gigs
amazon included a charger but jacked the price up for the device
second screen is crap even if you had a streaming device(IE roku) you would rather just use the devices remote or the Google play app of said device which you know wont be in amazon's app system and doesn't make up for lack of video output.
just beware Qualcomm and Amazon just doesn't sound good for users of this forum
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Oh. Bummer
Please know that the new devices (including the 2013 HD 7"!) will all need new exploits before they can be effectively unlocked for advanced development such as kernels and AOSP.
Just setting the expectation in advance.
While the specs are certainly very good, they will come at a price (exploit needed before custom ROM development).
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Hi guys, I've never used any kindle device before but the price and specs of Kindle Fire HDX got me all excited and I wanna buy it but in one condition and that is if it has Google Play. I hate Amazon Appstore it doesn't have 90% of the apps that Google Play has. What's the point of buying this powerful device if I can't play latest & greatest games and use different apps? I heard that kindle fire hd is rootable and can be converted to android? So I just wanna know if it's possible to could get access to all google play apps and games and play them on this device after it get released?
Thank You
Highly likely this device one day will be able to, but at this point there is no promises. Probably for play store we will just need root which most devices get within a few months. As for exploits for unlocked boot loaders for custom Roms it probably will happen someday but keep in mind we may have been still waiting on the kfhd if it wasn't for hashcode.
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Highly likely this device one day will be able to, but at this point there is no promises. Probably for play store we will just need root which most devices get within a few months. As for exploits for unlocked boot loaders for custom Roms it probably will happen someday but keep in mind we may have been still waiting on the kfhd if it wasn't for hashcode.
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ah great..then I guess I'll just wait till it gets rooted and then I'll buy it immediately.
mrkhigh said:
Highly likely this device one day will be able to, but at this point there is no promises. Probably for play store we will just need root which most devices get within a few months. As for exploits for unlocked boot loaders for custom Roms it probably will happen someday but keep in mind we may have been still waiting on the kfhd if it wasn't for hashcode.
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Even with root and play store installed, lots of apps still won't be listed compatible in play store even when they are. Amazon does something blocking apps in the play store for the fire. I believe there is an app that can fix it. Idk if it still works between Google updating its system and the app hasn't been updated in awhile
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Even with root and play store installed, lots of apps still won't be listed compatible in play store even when they are. Amazon does something blocking apps in the play store for the fire. I believe there is an app that can fix it. Idk if it still works between Google updating its system and the app hasn't been updated in awhile
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there is a hacked version of the google play and all the apps show compatible
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Link?
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As some know today the kindle Fire HDX has been revealed.
Amazon thing is that it has super powerful hardware.
At 2.2 GHz
2 GB of RAM
Front and Back Cameras
This will certainly will be Kindle Fire and Kindle Fire HD killer.
I made this thread up for discussions. What do you guys think of this new tablet and do you think you will buy it, because the price is just Amazing!! May even be better than the Nexus 7 FHD.....
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As some know today the kindle Fire HDX has been revealed.
Amazon thing is that it has super powerful hardware.
At 2.2 GHz
2 GB of RAM
Front and Back Cameras
This will certainly will be Kindle Fire and Kindle Fire HD killer.
I made this thread up for discussions. What do you guys think of this new tablet and do you think you will buy it, because the price is just Amazing!! May even be better than the Nexus 7 FHD.....
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It is very likely that Amazon has learned from their mistakes, and the next generation of KFs won't be as "easy" to crack. The Original KF forums are still just as active as they were before the 2nd gen devices came out, so I don't think there will be any shortage of development for either any time soon.
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It is very likely that Amazon has learned from their mistakes, and the next generation of KFs won't be as "easy" to crack. The Original KF forums are still just as active as they were before the 2nd gen devices came out, so I don't think there will be any shortage of development for either any time soon.
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Yeah, but probably Amazon might be open development now. Most OEMs are now having Unlockable BLs. Hopefully, this is the same case for amazon. But that might not be a good strategy if they want to make money through the HDX. But let's accept it, things like the Amazon Appstore suck.
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Even though now I am using Nexus 7 2013 32gb model but when amazon announce new kindle fire HDX, I feel I will take this one.
When cyanogenmod arrived in this HDX,it will be perfect
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Yeah, but probably Amazon might be open development now. Most OEMs are now having Unlockable BLs. Hopefully, this is the same case for amazon. But that might not be a good strategy if they want to make money through the HDX. But let's accept it, things like the Amazon Appstore suck.
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I have my doubts that they are open to development mainly because of the article posted in the HD 7” general forums, it said amazon was roughly breaking even on their kindle sales with appstore purchases and such. I hate to be pessimistic, but one can hope, personally I am hoping, think I'm going to see what I can find out about that processor.
Edit: hmmm well I looked it up online here, I don't see any mentions of security implementations, and as usual amazon seems to have slightly underclocked the processor, probably to give more battery lifetime or something. I find it interesting how this processor has the WiFi and Bluetooth and even the lte stuff all in one chip, and there is more than one model of the chip, they make models without lte, some with CDMA, and some with no support, so I'm guessing we might be seeing slightly different models across the devices for the lte versions. If this stuff is common, please excuse my ignorance, I'm more familiar with a PC processor than a phone processor. Interesting that this processor says it handles USB 3.0... Anyone find an article with some kinda security function that this processor might have? I couldn't find any on a basic Google search.
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stunts513 said:
I have my doubts that they are open to development mainly because of the article posted in the HD 7” general forums, it said amazon was roughly breaking even on their kindle sales with appstore purchases and such. I hate to be pessimistic, but one can hope, personally I am hoping, think I'm going to see what I can find out about that processor.
Edit: hmmm well I looked it up online here, I don't see any mentions of security implementations, and as usual amazon seems to have slightly underclocked the processor, probably to give more battery lifetime or something. I find it interesting how this processor has the WiFi and Bluetooth and even the lte stuff all in one chip, and there is more than one model of the chip, they make models without late, some with CDMA, and some with no support, so I'm guessing we might be seeing slightly different models across the devices for the lte versions. If this stuff is common, please excuse my ignorance, I'm more familiar with a PC processor than a phone processor. Interesting that this processor says it handles USB 3.0... Anyone find an article with some kinda security function that this processor might have? I couldn't find any on a basic Google search.
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I think there is a FCC link around here
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Hi guys, I've never used any kindle device before but the price and specs of Kindle Fire HDX got me all excited and I wanna buy it but in one condition and that is if it has Google Play. I hate Amazon Appstore it doesn't have 90% of the apps that Google Play has. What's the point of buying this powerful device if I can't play latest & greatest games and use different apps? I heard that kindle fire hd is rootable and can be converted to android? So I just wanna know if it's possible to could get access to all google play apps and games and play them on this device after it get released?
Thank You
Ishan Sardar said:
Hi guys, I've never used any kindle device before but the price and specs of Kindle Fire HDX got me all excited and I wanna buy it but in one condition and that is if it has Google Play. I hate Amazon Appstore it doesn't have 90% of the apps that Google Play has. What's the point of buying this powerful device if I can't play latest & greatest games and use different apps? I heard that kindle fire hd is rootable and can be converted to android? So I just wanna know if it's possible to could get access to all google play apps and games and play them on this device after it get released?
Thank You
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No one is sure, until the device is released. There is Software Spec Sheet line around somewhere but until now, we got wait. We probably will be able to take root and android but that may take some time.
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I will buy this device for sure, my actual Kindle Fire is getting old and Amazon has put a really nice price in the HDX 7. After all tech need to be updated once a year approximately
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Can somebody pls tell if they can port the new Fire OS 3.0 to the kindle fire HD 2nd Gen?? The 3rd gen kindle fire HD has been released...... and also what would happen if I just flash the new firmware on the 2nd gen??
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Can somebody pls tell if they can port the new Fire OS 3.0 to the kindle fire HD 2nd Gen?? The 3rd gen kindle fire HD has been released...... and also what would happen if I just flash the new firmware on the 2nd gen??
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STOP.... DONT FLASH ANYTHING NO ONE IS FOR SURE IT WILL WORK. PROBABLY A HDX ROM WONT WORK ON A KF2 SONCE THEY ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT HARDWARE THE KF2 WONT HANDLE SO MUCH.
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STOP.... DONT FLASH ANYTHING NO ONE IS FOR SURE IT WILL WORK. PROBABLY A HDX ROM WONT WORK ON A KF2 SONCE THEY ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT HARDWARE THE KF2 WONT HANDLE SO MUCH.
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LOL...Calm down, I am not doing it!! Just asking!!
BTW I was talking about the new HD version with Fire OS 3.0, not the HDX version.....
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LOL...Calm down, I am not doing it!! Just asking!!
BTW I was talking about the new HD version with Fire OS 3.0, not the HDX version.....
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You just want to watch the world burn don't you?
Lol, no DONT flash, it will brick it due to Hardware issues.
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You just want to watch the world burn don't you?
Lol, no DONT flash, it will brick it due to Hardware issues.
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LOL.... XD
Nope, I am not flashing anything, but why shoudn't the devs try to port Fire OS 3.0?? I hope they can do it...... It is not much difference in the hardware too.
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LOL.... XD
Nope, I am not flashing anything, but why shoudn't the devs try to port Fire OS 3.0?? I hope they can do it...... It is not much difference in the hardware too.
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Probably, but it's a too difficult, and really the KF doesn't have the hardware you need for Fire OS. Its like trying to say a 1998 PC(No Upgrades) will be able to run Windows 8. Devs could port of but its too much work and not really worth it.
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Probably, but it's a too difficult, and really the KF doesn't have the hardware you need for Fire OS. Its like trying to say a 1998 PC(No Upgrades) will be able to run Windows 8. Devs could port of but its too much work and not really worth it.
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Hmmmm...... I know how hard it is. And yeah a waste of time too!! i would rather see CM on the HDX..... that would be awesome!!
It already has
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@androvista Yeah, The last post was from October, we are now in December things have changed....
@androvista Yeah, The last post was from October, we are now in December things have changed....
I keep seeing conflicting info, is there a way to get Amazon Prime Video on my Nexus-Player, as a Prime customer??? I have installed Amazon Underground but it is still asking for Prime Video to be installed, which I haven't found.
There is a method using Amazon Underground as well as a custom launcher hosted here somewhere called Prime Video Launcher which handles the proper login needed. However, the video quality seems to be limited to 480p, and the apps don't work well at all without a keyboard/mouse.
Huge headache. I gave up. Amazon doesn't want my money bad enough.
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There is a method using Amazon Underground as well as a custom launcher hosted here somewhere called Prime Video Launcher which handles the proper login needed. However, the video quality seems to be limited to 480p, and the apps don't work well at all without a keyboard/mouse.
Huge headache. I gave up. Amazon doesn't want my money bad enough.
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Prime Video Launcher doesn't seem to available anywhere on the net...
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Prime Video Launcher doesn't seem to available anywhere on the net...
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Ah, that's right. It got pretty successfully DCMA'd
https://forum.xda-developers.com/shield-tv/development/amazon-prime-video-demand-android-tv-t3278778
Sorry
Has anyone tried the amazon video for the nvidia shield?
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I have a Roku and fireTV boxes, but since I really like streamers I bought a Nexus Player this week, because I saw a comparison video with a MiBox and the Nexus was running Android 7.1 and recent security update. I bought an OTG Ethernet adapter from Amazon to go with it. After factory resetting the player it was like setting up a brand new streamer. Anyway, Amazon Video is what we all want, of course, if we have a Prime membership. I knew the Shield had recently gotten the app and since the Nexus is still being supported with updates very well I have to wonder, reasonably I think, if there is a real chance the Nexus will get the app. I did install the APK for Amazon Video and like everybody else it installs, you can watch trailers, but that's as far as it goes.
Anybody think there is any chance the deal will be done for the Nexus Player? thanks!
I doubt it. I finally gave up and bought the Shield.
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Did anyone try the newly released Prime Video app from google play (http://www.androidauthority.com/amazon-prime-video-app-arrives-us-play-store-797134/)?
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Did anyone try the newly released Prime Video app from google play (http://www.androidauthority.com/amazon-prime-video-app-arrives-us-play-store-797134/)?
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wont install, I believe because its not an x86 app as the nexus player is using an intel x86 processor and not the more common ARM or ARM64 in phones (if it where you could just deal with a portrait/phone/touch based UI on a tv until you get to video playing back). Also its supposedly (according to reddit) the same app countries other than USA have had in the play store for some time, amazon only today flagged it as install-able by the USA market.
Ok, was suspicious about the x86 proc. Not many devices left using it. Cheers.
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...I believe because its not an x86 app as the nexus player is using an intel x86 processor and not the more common ARM or ARM64 in phones...
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I'm not sure if it's a x86 thing.
I just updated the Amazon Prime Video app (current version 3.0.209.146341) through the Play Store on my wife's Asus Memo Pad 7 ME572C, and that tablet has an Intel Atom Z3560 (quad-core 1.83GHz / PowerVR G6430 with 2GB RAM / 16GB memory) in it. The Nexus Player has the exact same SoC, I believe.
I would imagine that the Prime Video app doesn't show up on the Play Store because it doesn't have a Leanback UI so it's not flagged as compatible for the Nexus Player. That's my guess, anyway.
Hi,
so I am fairly new (tbh: completely new) to Amazon tablets. I just saw the new tablets announced for June and thought about replacing my old-as-f*ck Nexus 7 with a HD7 or HD8. How is the experience so far - is it likely that you can easily root/remove the ads, put on a custom rom and so on? Will this limit the tablet in any way? Or do I need to leave it stock, otherwise not be able to use Kindle/Prime Video and so on? Thanks!
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Hi,
so I am fairly new (tbh: completely new) to Amazon tablets. I just saw the new tablets announced for June and thought about replacing my old-as-f*ck Nexus 7 with a HD7 or HD8. How is the experience so far - is it likely that you can easily root/remove the ads, put on a custom rom and so on? Will this limit the tablet in any way? Or do I need to leave it stock, otherwise not be able to use Kindle/Prime Video and so on? Thanks!
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Most of the times as you can clearly see here on xda it takes a while or maybe even a long time, for the amazon tablets to be root able. I would buy a 6th gen right now, when your not connecting it to the internet it should be possible for you to root it right now (if it has the right software version installed).
If you want to buy a 7th gen then there is the problem that you can't connect it to the internet, because it will automatically upgrade you will have to wait until there is a method to root it before you can normally use your tablet....:crying:
Both the 6th and 7th Gen. Fire HD 8 are near if not identical specs wise, as above if your hoping for root buy the 6th Gen. as you may get lucky and get one with a pre-installed lower software version that's rootable, however you may not, the 7th Gen is very likely to come with 5.3.3 which I don't think is currently rootable.
As for custom ROMs, Amazons tablets are pretty locked down and as such there's little to no custom ROM development going on, not in recent years anyway. Go with something else if you like trying new ROMs otherwise the Fire HD tablets are pretty well made and you can sideload the Google Play Store pretty easily too.
Okay, I cross-referenced 2016 and 2017 and it's basically the same specs. Not sure it would be that much of an upgrade. I'll check what a 2016 HD 8 goes for at ebay.
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Both the 6th and 7th Gen. Fire HD 8 are near if not identical specs wise, as above if your hoping for root buy the 6th Gen. as you may get lucky and get one with a pre-installed lower software version that's rootable, however you may not, the 7th Gen is very likely to come with 5.3.3 which I don't think is currently rootable.
As for custom ROMs, Amazons tablets are pretty locked down and as such there's little to no custom ROM development going on, not in recent years anyway. Go with something else if you like trying new ROMs otherwise the Fire HD tablets are pretty well made and you can sideload the Google Play Store pretty easily too.
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Is it expected that loading Google Play on the 7th gen will work the same way as it did for the 6th? I don't need root or a custom ROM, but I don't want to be limited to the Amazon app store.
I will say that loading google play has worked so far on the latest HD 8. Used instructions and files linked here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/how-to-install-google-play-store-fire-t3486603. Was able to load paid version of a couple apps and they worked fine.
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I will say that loading google play has worked so far on the latest HD 8. Used instructions and files linked here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/how-to-install-google-play-store-fire-t3486603. Was able to load paid version of a couple apps and they worked fine.
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so just to confirm...
I don't need to root it to get play store working?
just need to get the Google drive suite up and running as it's mostly used for work.
is so, I'm all set to take the plunge and get myself a firehd8!
[my Nexus 7(2013) just died. :crying:]
psychoxman said:
so just to confirm...
I don't need to root it to get play store working?
just need to get the Google drive suite up and running as it's mostly used for work.
is so, I'm all set to take the plunge and get myself a firehd8!
[my Nexus 7(2013) just died. :crying:]
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I took my HD 8 (7th Gen) straight out of it's box and followed the instructions. Now someone reported in the other thread their Fire 7 (7th Gen) had issues with the versions linked in the thread. Mine was sitting at Amazon OS 5.3.3.0 out of the box and I didn't update that first. The guy with the Fire 7 stated he was at 5.4.0. One other person with the Fire 7 ran into a similar issue, but used newer versions of the Play Store and Play Services to get it working.
I just checked on my tablet and the Play Store and Play Services on the HD 8 just updated in the last 5 minutes, they are within the same build cycles as the one guy listed as working on his Fire 7.
Google play works
I took my tablet (hd 8 2017) straight out of the box in 5.3.3, follow the instructions in the link from this thread, google play works but location services dont. Factory reset, install google play with the files from the link again, and everything works!! after that, the tablet upgrade itself to 5.4, google play and services still works perfectly fine :victory::victory:. So the method and files in the link works, for me at least, if any problem appears just factory reset the tablet and try again. Sorry for my english.
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I took my tablet (hd 8 2017) straight out of the box in 5.3.3, follow the instructions in the link from this thread, google play works but location services dont. Factory reset, install google play with the files from the link again, and everything works!! after that, the tablet upgrade itself to 5.4, google play and services still works perfectly fine :victory::victory:. So the method and files in the link works, for me at least, if any problem appears just factory reset the tablet and try again. Sorry for my english.
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Thanks for the suggestion. Did you try the Gmail app from the Playstore? Does it work correctly for you?
trovatrice said:
Thanks for the suggestion. Did you try the Gmail app from the Playstore? Does it work correctly for you?
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Yes, Gmail from Google Play work correctly in my HD 8 2017.
so ive just found this site, only a couple days too late by the looks of it. i read (not very carefully) that it would be easy to root a kindle fire hd 8, so i just got one in the mail today (7th generation). i havent connected it to the internet, its got 5.3.3.0 on it, and my goal was to replace the stock OS with regular android. is this not currently an option?
(if not, any suggestions on what i should do/not do with it in the meantime? will connecting it to the internet begin an automatic software update that will render the device even more useless? i thought i read someone post something about that)
Fire HD 8 (2017) here on 8.4.0.0. Google apps sideload just fine. Removed lockscreen ads permanently just by submitting a help ticket.
It's a fabulous tablet for the price. I'm using mine primarily as a retro emulator although I can't find any good compact tablet gamepads (hoping to find a joycon-ish clone).
Fire HD 7thG- Screen cracked... What to do????
my FIRE HD 7th G screen cracked in a SPIDER WEB! I do not have warrenty. What to do? Is there a replacement screen for this new one?
cataldridge said:
my FIRE HD 7th G screen cracked in a SPIDER WEB! I do not have warrenty. What to do? Is there a replacement screen for this new one?
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As far as I know, the difference between the 6th generation and 7th, is pretty much the programming and a few internal tweaks. I am about 90% sure there is nothing different about the physical hardware of the devices. So if you can find an HD 8 that's 6th generation, for real cheap, you can probably swap out the screen. There are several tutorials online if you do Google search, on how to do that. It sounds harder than it actually is. With that said, i am still looking for a cheap HD 7 so I can replace the screen in the one I have tucked away in a drawer.
I would like to jailbreak this Fire and be able to add apps and use it as a dedicated device for a specific purpose. When I attempt to download the apps from the Amazon app page I see a notice that the device is not supported. I know I purchased this device in 2012 or 2013, so I know it is old.
So tell me would it be possible to jailbreak this device and put current Android OS on it and download some specific apps?
kybunnies said:
I would like to jailbreak this Fire and be able to add apps and use it as a dedicated device for a specific purpose. When I attempt to download the apps from the Amazon app page I see a notice that the device is not supported. I know I purchased this device in 2012 or 2013, so I know it is old.
So tell me would it be possible to jailbreak this device and put current Android OS on it and download some specific apps?
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Do you have a HD 8.9 or HDX 8.9? They are very different devices with different paths to FireOS freedom.
Davey126 said:
Do you have a HD 8.9 or HDX 8.9? They are very different devices with different paths to FireOS freedom.
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I have the Kindle Fire HD 8.9. If I posted in the wrong thread I apologize.
kybunnies said:
I have the Kindle Fire HD 8.9. If I posted in the wrong thread I apologize.
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No worries. You have a 2nd generation Fire HD 8.9 code named "jem". I have the 7 inch mode code named "tate". Both can be unlocked and accommodate a variety of custom ROMs. However, the path is not easy and will take a significant investment on your part to read up on techniques an caveats and then successfully apply them to your device. The following threads should prove helpful:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/kindle-fire-hd/8-9-inch-help
https://forum.xda-developers.com/kindle-fire-hd/8-9-development
Alternatively, you can purchase a package that will simplify the process. This is one example:
https://www.perfectlyandroid.com
The site may look childish but the product is the real deal. That said, it is likely the support staff has moved on as 2nd generation devices haven't been sold since 2012. You may not need them but you'd probably want to confirm availability before laying down any coin.
Keep in mind this device is 6+ years old with limited capabilities even with a custom ROM. A $40 phone from WalMart will easily run circles around this pup.
Good luck.
So it would probably be better to purchase a new/newer device for what I want. I mainly want the device to use as a dedicated bible with bible apps. I have a new Kindle Fire 7 inch with a 64 GB micro SD card. But with having 20-50 books , Calibre Companion, Moon+Reader pro and one bible app takes up all memory. This is before adding any additional purchases from the bible app. I have it where apps are suppose to be stored on the SD card but that does not help. I honestly hate getting rid of this Kindle Fire 8.9 since it is still working and holds a charge. I admit that I have side loaded most of the apps I want but I can't get one app to login so my info/notes will sync. This is why I thought about jailbreaking the device to see if I could get a new version of the app installed. Maybe I wold be better off searching for a refurbished iPad or buying a new Kindle Fire 8 or 10 inch. Something to think about.
Thanks so much for the help.
kybunnies said:
So it would probably be better to purchase a new/newer device for what I want. I mainly want the device to use as a dedicated bible with bible apps. I have a new Kindle Fire 7 inch with a 64 GB micro SD card. But with having 20-50 books , Calibre Companion, Moon+Reader pro and one bible app takes up all memory. This is before adding any additional purchases from the bible app. I have it where apps are suppose to be stored on the SD card but that does not help. I honestly hate getting rid of this Kindle Fire 8.9 since it is still working and holds a charge. I admit that I have side loaded most of the apps I want but I can't get one app to login so my info/notes will sync. This is why I thought about jailbreaking the device to see if I could get a new version of the app installed. Maybe I wold be better off searching for a refurbished iPad or buying a new Kindle Fire 8 or 10 inch. Something to think about.
Thanks so much for the help.
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Installing a different Android version on any of the Amazon Fire's requires a custom rom.
Installing a custom rom requires either a unlocked bootloader or root access.
None of the 5th gen or newer have any means of unlocking the bootloader, and only the 7th gen HD 10 has a root method, but no custom roms.
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sd_shadow said:
Installing a different Android version on any of the Amazon Fire's requires a custom rom.
Installing a custom rom requires either a unlocked bootloader or root access.
None of the 5th gen or newer have any means of unlocking the bootloader, and only the 7th gen HD 10 has a root method, but no custom roms.
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Please do not take my response as being smart/snarky. I honestly do not understand a word you said except I can't jailbreak any Kindle Fire that is 5th generation or newer.
Only reason I want to jail break this one is because I cannot install a couple of apps that I want.
kybunnies said:
Please do not take my response as being smart/snarky. I honestly do not understand a word you said except I can't jailbreak any Kindle Fire that is 5th generation or newer.
Only reason I want to jail break this one is because I cannot install a couple of apps that I want.
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Jailbreak is an iPhone thing, does not apply to Android or in this case FireOS.
If is to just an apps problem, that doesn't necessarily mean you need to do any modifications like root.
The apps just do not install?
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sd_shadow said:
Jailbreak is an iPhone thing, does not apply to Android or in this case FireOS.
If is to just an apps problem, that doesn't necessarily mean you need to do any modifications like root.
The apps just do not install?
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Okay I am showing how much I do not know about this stuff.
When I go to the app page at Amazon my device is not supported. The app is free so I have downloaded it and tried to sideload it. Again it will not install. I have found older versions of the app and some will install but they will not allow me to login and sync my info. I can login to the apps website via the device without any problems. The Wi-Fi signal is strong so that is not the problem. On my Kindle Fire purchased in July (used for digital books) the apps installs easily and I am able to log in.
Yes I know it would be easier to just put the app on the newer Kindle but the screen is smaller and some of the older adults at church enjoy seeing/reading all the different versions I pull up on the Bible. I just want to put the app on the larger screen Kindle and make it easier for everyone to see.