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[Q] Stuck in a limbo between being rooted / unrooted, not sure where to turn

Essentially the situation is that about a week ago I rooted my new glacier phone using the Terminal Emulator method outlined in this post .
Everything worked fine, my phone was rooted and worked perfectly.
A few days ago I decided that i needed to clean up my phone because my SD card was full. I went about deleting files and folders which I thought were simply images taken from my camera and audio / video files. Obviously I made a mistake and deleted something I shouldn't have because immediately following the "clean up" I typed su into my Android terminal and was greeted with the response:
"link_image[1995]: failed to link su CANNOT LINK EXECUTABLE"
Since then I've tried several things to get my root privileges back, including:
Factory Resetting the Phone
Rerunning the same procedure I used to gain root in the first place
I tried and failed to simply flash a new ROM to the phone, whenever I go into recovery and apply a .zip I get the error: "Can't open /sdcard/zipfile.zip (bad) Installation Aborted"
The Super user app does tell me that there is an update that it needs to apply, I have a gut feeling that it's trying to fix the error that I made in deleting whatever file I deleted. But when I try to apply the update the Super user app tells me to apply the update in recovery mode. When i go into recovery mode to apply the zip I get the same errors reported above.
My s=off currently so I can't get stock OTA updates and my "su" privileges are not working so I'm stuck in a bit of a limbo. Not sure where to turn at this point and would greatly appreciate any and all advice from the Android Dev Community.
Cheers!

How about restoring your original backup via clockwork? It only backs up the phones flash, not the sd card though.
Not sure what superuser would need from the sd card.
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Sounds like u should have just reinstalled superuser. If u still have s off, download maybe iced glacier Rom and flash it thru Rom manager. Usually comes pre everything
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I'll certainly try your advice but I'm 90% sure that I'm gonna run into the problem that even though my phone is s=off, for all intensive purposes it isn't rooted because I can't run any programs that require su permissions.
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smirkis said:
Sounds like u should have just reinstalled superuser. If u still have s off, download maybe iced glacier Rom and flash it thru Rom manager. Usually comes pre everything
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Thanks for your advice. I tried it and sure enough Iced Glacier installed without a hitch.
Cheers!

Perm Root not working

I followed multiple steps for installing perm root on a friends Mytouch and for some reason we could not get the s-off feature to work. I noticed too we do have SU access via adb or terminal but I still never could get s-off. After we got root we used rom manager to install clockwork and after the fact it installed 3.0.2 i believe it completely borked the recovery. I stepped it down to 3.0.0 and still had the same issue. The main reason i wanted to get s-off was to adb flash the recovery but I got a signature fail. Any ideas or suggestions to get this working correctly? Rom Manager will not let me install 2x cwm basically stating it can not install it period. I also tried the batch file root method same issue. Thanks for your help in advance.

Please look at the "True permaroot and S-OFF" thread in Development section, and execute step-by-step.
If your friend's MT4G is running Gingerbread (Android 2.3.3), you'll need to use Gingerbreak instead of Visionary+ to get root access.

Its on froyo and i followed that guide i have perm root but we can not get s off. I can use root access for any programs
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dynamicj said:
Its on froyo and i followed that guide i have perm root but we can not get s off. I can use root access for any programs
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If you are following the ./gfree method step by step it will root your phone.
If you are using the root.sh script and it's not working chances are you may have a bad eMMC chipset and it will not root properly.
I know HTC said they would be pushing a update to close the exploit hole that is used to root our phones but i don't think it's been pushed yet.

Im not sure but it said something about not being able to back up partition or something but either way nice HTC is becoming a motorola nice
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dynamicj said:
Im not sure but it said something about not being able to back up partition or something but either way nice HTC is becoming a motorola nice
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HTC isn't "becoming a Motorola". HTC, is completely different. We do have a locked bootloader. But it's easily unlock-able whereas Moto's aren't.

Its still not accepting the soff root which i am baffled at and with a broken recovery i need to know what to do now. Recovery just shows pc-cell logo
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dynamicj said:
Its still not accepting the soff root which i am baffled at and with a broken recovery i need to know what to do now. Recovery just shows pc-cell logo
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I don't know what to tell you. There are several threads out there regarding how to root your phone. Both in a .gfree form and a root.sh form. One of those 2 work for 99.9% of EVERYONE.

You might try finding someone who put together a .zip that can be flashed through the android recovery(white screen with boot options, etc.). Otherwise you can get the RUU and return to stock. After that follow the directions step by step and DO NOT mix methods. This should result in an S-OFF root, if you did your homework correctly.
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I did several methods via adb .sh file and .g i have root in the os Rom manager even installed cwm but i can't get into cwm i get that image.... So still lost as nothing is working on this phone for s off
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dynamicj said:
I did several methods via adb .sh file and .g i have root in the os Rom manager even installed cwm but i can't get into cwm i get that image.... So still lost as nothing is working on this phone for s off
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Until you have "s-off" no recovery image will stick.

Obviously why i posted here to get insight anyways ill just redo it for the 5th time maybe it will work....
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dynamicj said:
Obviously why i posted here to get insight anyways ill just redo it for the 5th time maybe it will work....
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What method are you using?

I have tried them all
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dynamicj said:
I have tried them all
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What errors are you getting?

Just can not get it to go soff i have root in the device otherwise. Recovery also just shows a computer and cell phone icon after Rom manager install clockwork mod 3x. I am just trying to adb install a older cwm.
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As someone already explained before, when the security is on, no matter the amount of flashing you're going to try - it won't get you anywhere, since it won't be written to the actual ROM, and will be gone on restart.
Unless you pick a guide, follow it exactly, and post here everything that doesn't look proper - I don't think the forum can help you much.
Here's one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
Follow it and post anything that doesn't look good. Including your bootloader version.

The root is sticking on reboots but still no soff that's what i have been saying and i followed the guides to a t its not my first picnic rooting or roming a phone this one just has me stumped
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What does your bootloader show when you boot into it?
For the root to stick after boot, you had to have S-OFF, otherwise the eMMC wouldn't have been written to.
Having no info from you, as I said, it's impossible to help. If all this thread is just a complaint - by all means, but in that case there's no point in helping you. If you want help - you need to provide enough details for people to help you. Obviously, nobody can figure out anything from "I can't get s-off".

I do a adb reboot bootloader and i get us fast boot up top it says s-on but if i reboot to the os i still have root access for instance in titanium backup or Rom manager of that helps any
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[Q] Easiest way to downgrade cwm

Im on cwm 3.0.0.6 and am sick of the fact that i cant turn on the phone if it has completely died and is then charging and then have to reinsert the battery to get it to turn back on, so was wondering what would be the easiest way to change recovery to one where this problem is resolved, thanks

deezykhara said:
Im on cwm 3.0.0.6 and am sick of the fact that i cant turn on the phone if it has completely died and is then charging and then have to reinsert the battery to get it to turn back on, so was wondering what would be the easiest way to change recovery to one where this problem is resolved, thanks
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If your S off then just fastboot it or if you are not S off use unrevoked. S off and fastbooting is the fastest way and easiest.
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And downgrading recovery won't solve that bug. But upgrading solves. Better to flash the latest 4.x recovery and use a secondary 2.x recovery from rom manager.
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bharatgaddameedi said:
And downgrading recovery won't solve that bug. But upgrading solves. Better to flash the latest 4.x recovery and use a secondary 2.x recovery from rom manager.
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is there a way to upgrade to the latest 4.x by pc49img method, because this is the method i used after xtc clip s-off and i dont know how to do it the fastboot way

deezykhara said:
is there a way to upgrade to the latest 4.x by pc49img method, because this is the method i used after xtc clip s-off and i dont know how to do it the fastboot way
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Yaa. This is the file for recovery 4.0.1.0
http://db.tt/KIwKUq6
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bharatgaddameedi said:
Yaa. This is the file for recovery 4.0.1.0
http://db.tt/KIwKUq6
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thanks for the file, was wondering if this would work, if i make a backup of my current rom and then install the new recovery and then restore the backup, so in effect the only thing changed is the recovery or would that not work?
EDIT: and also when i rename the zip that ive downloaded from the link, it needs to be capitals doesnt it, ie PC49IMG.zip and not whatever the name is when it is downloaded

It will work. Nandroid backup and restore will not be recovery specific.
And rename the file to PC49IMG.ZIP, it is not case sensitive. So you can use either all capitals or all small letters. But the sdcard must be fat32.
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thanks for your help

CWM 5.0.1.0?

Hi folks,
Today I booted up Rom Manager and it told me that a new version of CWM was available : 5.0.1.0 So I flashed it (through Rom Manager, so the temporary one) and noticed that it is cyan instead of orange. I didn't pay attention to new features. Is there a official version for permanent flash? Is this a official CWM?
Thanks in advance
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Yes its official, and yes, there is an IMG file for a permanent flash.
http://download.clockworkmod.com/recoveries/
ROM Manager and Clockworkmod are written by the same person, so, if ROM Manager says there's an update, it will be an official one.
PS - Questions shouldn't be in Dev Section.

It works but this isn't permanent flash?
after recovery reboot i get back to v.3.x.x.x
Ups... I didn't download *.img. now it's working

Can someone talk me through how do I go about making this permanent? I've downloaded through Rom Manager and if I boot into recovery via rom manager I get the new version but if I reboot into recovery I still have the old one.
I've read about a couple of methods of doing this, I believe it's possible using either Unrevoked or Terminal Emulator? I'm having trouble working out which method is easier/more reliable.
I'm S-On if this makes any difference?
Thanks!

steve_032 said:
Can someone talk me through how do I go about making this permanent? I've downloaded through Rom Manager and if I boot into recovery via rom manager I get the new version but if I reboot into recovery I still have the old one.
I've read about a couple of methods of doing this, I believe it's possible using either Unrevoked or Terminal Emulator? I'm having trouble working out which method is easier/more reliable.
I'm S-On if this makes any difference?
Thanks!
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Both work. Unrevoked method is definitely more easier, but, if you don't mind typing in a bunch of commands, then the terminal emulator method is probably more reliable.
EDIT - I think the Terminal method needs S-OFF, so I guess you are stuck with Unrevoked, in all probability.

Download the image. Open up a terminal and type su, you should get a # sign. Move the image to the root of your SD. In your terminal type flash_image recovery SD/(name of image). Hit return and watch the terminal flash the latest version. Personally I'd use Amon-Ra, but that's just me.
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3xeno said:
Both work. Unrevoked method is definitely more easier, but, if you don't mind typing in a bunch of commands, then the terminal emulator method is probably more reliable.
EDIT - I think the Terminal method needs S-OFF, so I guess you are stuck with Unrevoked, in all probability.
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Ok that's awesome! I'll give it a try, thanks for the quick response.

Wait what? You don't have S-OFF? ......oh
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KFlannigan5 said:
Wait what? You don't have S-OFF? ......oh
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Yeah, it will only work when you are S-OFF.
steve_032 said:
Can someone talk me through how do I go about making this permanent? I've downloaded through Rom Manager and if I boot into recovery via rom manager I get the new version but if I reboot into recovery I still have the old one.
I've read about a couple of methods of doing this, I believe it's possible using either Unrevoked or Terminal Emulator? I'm having trouble working out which method is easier/more reliable.
I'm S-On if this makes any difference?
Thanks!
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When you open the UnrEVOked tool, you can somewhere select a custom recovery image (I can't tell you exacly, but if I remember right, there weren't that much menu options in unrEVOked). You can then proceed with the normal procedure: the UnrEVOked tool will do its magic to install your new recovery image.
You can download the .img from the link from 3xeno, or you can find it somewhere on your sdcard as ROM Manager has already downloaded it.
To be honest: your life willnbe much mor easy when you use the AlpheRevX/Revolutionary tool to get S-OFF. The commands to flash a new recovery aren't that difficult, and other fastboot commands can be very usefull when you did something very stupid, want to restore a nandroid backup and notice that clockworkmod doesn't want to cooperate anymore. It really saved my phone more then once And, last but not least, when S-OFF you can remount your system folder as read/write (im stead of read-only) to change certain system files (for example, deinstall a useless system app) in a descent graphical interface and when your phone is booted.
Good luck!
Erwin

Unrevoked doesn't seem to want to play ball for me at the moment, keep getting "Is your firmware too new?" error messages. I'll S-Off, it's something I've been meaning to do anyway just never got round to! Thanks for your help.

Use an older version of Unrevoked, something between 3.14 and 3.21. All newer versions give this error for some or the other reason. (Assuming you are not going to S-OFF yet)

Ahh yes 3.14 did the trick! Thanks.

It is an official update, CWM won't install something that isn't official.

Use fast boot flash. From windows or linux.
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Not sure if the OP is aware but a newer version is available btw (5.0.2.0)
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Strange Root Issue

When I saw the port for ICS come out I got really excited and flashed it right away. Then I realized for whatever reason I didnt have SU permissions so I couldn't tether to my computer. I was disappointed but I thought, "no biggie, I'll just restore from my back up." When I flashed my back up the SU app was in my app drawer but I still couldn't tether. As a matter of fact I can't do anything that requires SU but the bootloader still reads unlocked. WTF?
I can't flash a new recovery either. I tried installing from ROM manager, I tried pushing it from my computer but I can't get to the recovery any more. ROM manager says that I have CWM 5.0.2.0 currently installed but I can't get to it at all. Again, WTF?
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^clearly the phone is working perfectly fine with the stock ROM from the back up but obviously I want my SU back.

Root your phone and read the development thread versus making blog posts.
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Flash this http://www.tylerwatt12.com/XDA/ics/root_and_theme.zip and please post in right section
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Thanks for not answering my questions. The bootloader is unlocked but I don't have root and I don't have access to recovery mode even tho ROM Manager says I have Clockwork Mod 5.0.2.0 currently installed. I cannot access the recovery mode AT ALL. I cannot flash or push a new recovery but it fully boots into Gingerbread w/o any issues. What is wrong with my phone and how do I fix it.
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Try from rom manager to reinstall a previous recovery version.
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That doesn't work either. It goes through the prompts but it doesn't actually reboot do the installation.
I just tried unrooting and then re - rooting but that didn't work and I think that actually wiped my phone completely. I don't even know where an SD card would get into this thing.
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Use adb on your computer and push a clockworkmod recovery.img. And we are trying to help u no need for the sarcasm
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I'm sorry but I'm just really frustrated right now. Nothing I have tried has worked. Maybe its my commands? To push that recovery image what would I type?
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I also I can't download that zip you linked to. Every time I try it just says failed.
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obsydian2k7 said:
I'm sorry but I'm just really frustrated right now. Nothing I have tried has worked. Maybe its my commands? To push that recovery image what would I type?
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I get it
Fastboot flash recovery recovery-xxxxxxxxx.img and hit enter
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Esteway.619 said:
I get it
Fastboot flash recovery recovery-xxxxxxxxx.img and hit enter
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Get cwm image from here CWM Recovery
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relock the phone then unlock it again i had the same problem

I tried relocking and unlocking again then pushed the recovery I just (finally) downloaded but it didn't work. Terminal says error cannot load 'recovery-clockwork-5.0.2.0-crespo4g.img'
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I tried relocking and unlocking again then pushed the recovery I just (finally) downloaded but it didn't work. Terminal says error cannot load 'recovery-clockwork-5.0.2.0-crespo4g.img'
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Is that the right name of the recovery img? Try renaming it to just recovery and see if that works.
Edit: make sure your phone is in debugging mode. And uninstall then reinstall the drivers on your computer
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Esteway.619 said:
Is that the right name of the recovery img? Try renaming it to just recovery and see if that works.
Edit: make sure your phone is in debugging mode. And uninstall then reinstall the drivers on your computer
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manually go into recovery with volume down and power flash the su.zip and u should be good to go that wat I did
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No suggestions have worked so far. It does not matter what the recovery image name is, whenever I try the flash it Terminal says that it cannot load "***.img" or if I try an install command it says that it cannot find "***.zip" I'm on a snow leopard iMac so I don't need drivers n such.
Let me pose the question like this, what would I do to completely restore the phone to factory condition and try to root it again? Like I said before, the bootloader says that it is unlocked but I do not have any root privileges, could not access the recovery I had before nor install a new recovery after having locked the unlocked the phone's bootloader again.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13773677&postcount=1
go to the link above and follow the directions for returning to stock.
find yourself a one-click root method on XDA that includes superuser, busybox, and CWM.
EDIT: Also, double check the md5 sum for the CWM .zip. use
Code:
md5 recovery-aaaaaa.img
in the terminal and make sure the output matches whatever is given on the CWM site. if they dont have one up, ask for it

NS4g one-click root app:
http://www.mediafire.com/?2jx8xtx2602hi23
this will:
unlock the bootloader
install cwm 5.0.2.0
root
No commands, no messing with pushing files manually, etc. This thing has already saved me from major headaches while restoring my phone once and I've only had it for 3 weeks lol

hp420 said:
NS4g one-click root app:
http://www.mediafire.com/?2jx8xtx2602hi23
this will:
unlock the bootloader
install cwm 5.0.2.0
root
No commands, no messing with pushing files manually, etc. This thing has already saved me from major headaches while restoring my phone once and I've only had it for 3 weeks lol
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im assuming this is for windows. he said he has a mac so that wouldnt work for him. here this is for mac http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1129759 just copy and past everything thats there in terminal

Esteway.619 said:
im assuming this is for windows. he said he has a mac so that wouldnt work for him. here this is for mac http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1129759 just copy and past everything thats there in terminal
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I missed that...my mistake