Problem streaming videos from web - Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
Read through video streaming search results and didn't find quite the question I have so here goes...I'm trying to watch some TV programs streaming from a website mobilev*ds.org and am having a problem getting some (most) links to play - some play eventually but after multiple efforts. I have tried a nunber of browsers (Dolphin, Chrome, Firefox with Flash side installed) but none are consistently working. I also use the same streaming site with my iPhone and the programs launch Quicktime with no problems. Any ideas what I might try next? I'd rather not download the material.
Thanks,
Jack

It appears that site uses Flash to stream the videos, at least that's what Chrome on my PC indicates. It appears the videos are in MP4 format which would explain why Quicktime would open and play it. Since Flash is not officially supported on the Nexus 7 people have had to try various workarounds to enable it. Generally it involves side loading Flash player version 11.1.111.5 or above. Do a search through the Nexus 7 forums here for "flash" and you'll see much discussion on subject.
Here is one such thread on sideloading Flash and using the Firefox Beta browser.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30973920
Two more threads (from other XDA Nexus forums) on the Nexus 7/Flash subject.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1865587
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1856912

bennor3814 said:
It appears that site uses Flash to stream the videos, at least that's what Chrome on my PC indicates. It appears the videos are in MP4 format which would explain why Quicktime would open and play it. Since Flash is not officially supported on the Nexus 7 people have had to try various workarounds to enable it. Generally it involves side loading Flash player version 11.1.111.5 or above. Do a search through the Nexus 7 forums here for "flash" and you'll see much discussion on subject.
Here is one such thread on sideloading Flash and using the Firefox Beta browser.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30973920
Two more threads (from other XDA Nexus forums) on the Nexus 7/Flash subject.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1865587
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1856912
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Thanks for the advice - bit strange that the vids are MP4 but will play on Chrome on iPhone which doesn't support flash either. Not sure how this all works....tried the sideload of Flash (11.5) but got a flash error on Firefox - maybe I'll try a later version of flash and see if that works...some of the vids work in Chrome on the Nexus 7 while some don't (I use only Videobam links). I thought Nexus 7 could cope with MP4 files?
Don't suppose there is a way to browse these files without downloading using say MX player?
Cheers,
Jack

Have you tried changing your user agent in dolphin browser to iPhone or iPad? Some websites automatically assume that since you're using an android tablet to browse the site, you can watch videos in flash. I've found that changing the user agent to an idevice will often force the site to switch to HTML5 video.
If switching the user agent doesn't immediately work. Leave the user agent as iPhone or iPad and reboot. Then try it again. That has helped me before.
If any more experienced members want to weigh in on this question, please do.
Sent from my Paranoid Nexus 7

RockNrolling said:
Have you tried changing your user agent in dolphin browser to iPhone or iPad? Some websites automatically assume that since you're using an android tablet to browse the site, you can watch videos in flash. I've found that changing the user agent to an idevice will often force the site to switch to HTML5 video.
If switching the user agent doesn't immediately work. Leave the user agent as iPhone or iPad and reboot. Then try it again. That has helped me before.
If any more experienced members want to weigh in on this question, please do.
Sent from my Paranoid Nexus 7
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Thanks - I'll try that later. Did a root around and have a few things to try later on one of them being the above. Perhaps (though I'm not sure quite how) MX player would be an option, couldn't find a Nexus 7 example but have seen it play an online stream - not sure how this would work on N7 as when opening the MX Player app I didn't find an option to browse or enter a URL. The example I saw showed a user browsing a site and launching a vid and then being asked which player to use, something which doesn't happen when I launch that particular mobile video site. Perhaps there are some settings within the browser that I can play with as you've indicated above....If I have any success I'll post and let you know, anyone else feel free to suggest a workaround....
Thanks,
Jack

Jacksuarez7 said:
Thanks for the advice - bit strange that the vids are MP4 but will play on Chrome on iPhone which doesn't support flash either. Not sure how this all works....tried the sideload of Flash (11.5) but got a flash error on Firefox - maybe I'll try a later version of flash and see if that works...some of the vids work in Chrome on the Nexus 7 while some don't (I use only Videobam links). I thought Nexus 7 could cope with MP4 files?
Don't suppose there is a way to browse these files without downloading using say MX player?
Cheers,
Jack
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I side loaded the install_flash_player_ICS.apk (http://download.macromedia.com/pub/...roid/11.1.115.17/install_flash_player_ics.apk) before installing the Firefox browser. Then visited the site and successfully streamed several TV shows.
I would assume that you would have to download the video to have MX Player launch the file. Might want to try VLC Player and see if you can stream content the way you're trying to stream it.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2

MX Player can stream from a network location. You do need put in the full network path to the media file.
Edit to add: I took the streaming file link for one show, http://mvds1.org/media/tv/grimm/Grimm.S02E04.Quill.HDTV.x264-2HD.mp4.php, and dropped the .php when pasted in the MX player network stream entry box and was able to stream the video.
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bennor3814 said:
MX Player can stream from a network location. You do need put in the full network path to the media file.
Edit to add: I took the streaming file link for one show, ], and dropped the .php when pasted in the MX player network stream entry box and was able to stream the video.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2
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Hi,
Thanks to everyone for the help - I tried 2 methods last night and was successful in both (mostly). I downloaded the Boat Browser from the play store and it played the videobam links, albeit not great quality but acceptable enough. The mobile video site also had links to another stream (show was B Bad) which I could never get to play in Quicktime (it stuttered all over the place) and while I could copy the URL to MX Player, remove the .php extension and get it to load, it had the same stuttering issues (but the video playback quality was better). I tried the videobam link in MX Player and couldn't get it to work - the videobam links don't give the fill file extension, just videobam.com/GFQ.....(no MP4 as with the link posted by the user above.
So I'm quite happy with the Boat browser for viewing these vids and hopefully it will work with other sites, MX Player has a nicer look/feel to it but I am not sure how to find the proper links from videobam to play the vid in there - any suggestions would be welcomed.
Thanks for all the help to those that made suggestions,
Jack

Do you have a link to the video your trying to play from the videobam site or a link to the main media site that streams videos from the videobam site? The videobam site appears tobe a hosting site where people host video that they then link to from other websites. See the videobam/faq page for more information. You may be able to stream or download directly from the videobam site if the download link is available on the page that is streaming the video. See the videobam demo page for one such example.
Some streaming sites do not provide easy access to the streaming file to prevent users from doing what your attempting to do by streaming to MX Player. They generate money they use to operate by having users view the video with advertising embedded on the streaming web page.
As to the issue of video quality. Many factors can affect the end user quality. They range from poor recording quality, poor encoding quality, poor internet connections between your broadband provider and the site that streams the content, and your overall broadband speed. Trying to stream high definition content through a low speed broadband connection can contribute to a poor streaming experience.

Good to know. Ima try that ics apk cus um havin issues too
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Video streaming with WM6 on BA

I can't stream none of the video from youtube via htc streaming media.
Is there a fix for this? May be i installed one of the cert files wrong?
And what other sites does htc streaming media work on. I wish to test it
Hello –
What videos are you trying to stream?
I am one of the developer who worked on Avot mV which runs on most of Windows mobile 5.0 and newer phone with the idea of searching and playing any video from video sharing sites like YouTube, Google Videos, DailyMotion and other web locations.
Since you’re interested in streaming videos, you might want to download this application and provide the feedback to improve the product.
You can download the application by pointing the mobile browser to http://avotmv.com
Your program is very brilliant and its very efficient in some ways but needs work done for more control of its options.
Downloaded files should store on Card
I think its best for the program to download its video content onto the memory card instead of the internet explorer cache. I was wondering why my phone was becomng so slow and i kept getting these prompts about memory usage. I was looking in the folders for stuff to delete so that the phone wont be slowing down anymore, its was only till i realise it would have to be in the cache. A average user wouldn't have thought of this!
Stop & pause don't respond immediately while playing
I was trying to stop a video from streaming and it wasn't stopping, it took about 10 seconds to respond. I only had avotmv and PIE running.
Playing videos directly from youtube and other sites
It takes a while for the page to load on youtube and it never played. One time i heard the audio playing when i was using dailymotion.com but i never saw the video.
Suggestion: List the respective channels by their website name
I wish there was an option to list the respective channels by there respective name in the channels list. User would like to search by youtube alone instead of every video site. That option would be great for just searching one video site alone.
Its a gem in beta so far, if you wish me to keep working with you on feedback please leave a link to your forum and i'll appreicate it if you offer me a free copy of the software

[Q] Mobo player

I just downloaded mobo player and the codec file for it. I wanted to play video's directly on the internet on my xoom. I thought downloading this would help me but video's are still not playing?
I do not understand the media directory thing is there anything I am missing.
I picked media directory to be my downloads in my Astro file. This is right out of the box. I have done nothing to unlock or root this device.
Can anyone please explain to me what I need to do to play video's from a web page on the net. For example I went to a site for Las Vegas wanted to play video of Terry Feder show would not play?
I'm pretty good at following directions. I understand PC very well just learning about cell phones and tablets.
I only downloaded the codec file because the video still wasn't playing.
I do not want to do anything that will mess up my xoom?
Sorry I think I should have posted this in questions forum.
Did you try tapping and holding the video you want to play then selecting soft decoding? You have to do that to a large majority of videos for the xoom.
Yes I did. When the video appears on the screen there is a small blue dice in the center with a ? on it. There seems to be lots of videos that won't play. Is there anything in the codec file that I need to change. I saw the soft decoding for one of the video extensions?
Just found something that says default using soft decoding in settings I checked it. Still no luck. You tube videos play fine
When I tap the video the screen turns light blue but nothing comes up and their are no options available to select.
you said your trying to play videos from a site. What site and what video format? Link?
Go to metacafe.com any video it does not work. That is just one of the sites. I cannot tell what the video format is? How can i see that. On the right hand bottom of my screen it says autoplay ON. I do not know if that is from Mobo app or something else.
took a spin around the world wide web and seems the videos on your site metacafe are FLV files.
go to the market.. install one of these in the list and see if any will work.
not sure which ones are compatible with the xoom so just go in and check on the tech details. better yet go there with your xoom so it will filter out which ones will work.
you can also just search "flv player" w/o quotes in the market and see what you come up with.
https://market.android.com/search?q=flv+player&so=1&c=apps
That site seems to use a bunch of different kinds of video. Hulu videos wont work, but the flash videos will if you install flash, obviously. Moboplayer is for mp4, avi, mpeg, and other types of video commonly not found streaming on websites.
Just called Motorola and figured out that Flash Player needed to be downloaded. Do I feel stupid. I thought it came with it and was on it when I got it. I then went back to the site and the video played.
Do you think MoboPlayer will interfere with anything on my tablet. Should I remove it?
Or should I leave it. Don't even know if it works on the xoom. It did not work to get the FLV file working that is supports. Any input would be appreciated.
keep it. it can play other movie formats.
timrock said:
keep it. it can play other movie formats.
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I never heard of this player, anyone have any screenshots or details on how it works?
Alxoom33 said:
I never heard of this player, anyone have any screenshots or details on how it works?
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it just works
amazing that an XDA member of a xoom tablet has not heard about moboplayer. thats wild.. rockplayer is made by the same dev that made moboplayer. mobo player is a really great video app! a must have..

App for playing videos from windows share?

Looking for a app for playing videos from my windows server. I watch a lot of foreign movies so need subtitles support. Something like the gtvplayer.
Any ideas?
There are a thousand different players on the market but I don't see any that support playing from a network share.
Take a look at this thread.. I do not know about the sub titles.. but there are several apps mentioned here that do exactly what you are asking for.. ITS Called dlna server.. i use the aVIA one but bubble has much more options.. of course you have to turn dlna on .on the windows box(windows media center) or download a dlna server app for windows machine..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1482868
good luck
BSPlayer.It's free and supports direct streaming without caching the whole file on your device. Buzz player also supports streaming samba shares but it's quite buggy to my experience and it's not free.
drkalo said:
BSPlayer.It's free and supports direct streaming without caching the whole file on your device. Buzz player also supports streaming samba shares but it's quite buggy to my experience and it's not free.
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that is true es file explorer has a media player that will stream as well But can lag at times.. there are others that do the same im sure..
]thanks for the replies. I do not want to use a DNLA server so I'll try some of the other suggestions.
Almost any File Explorer should do the trick. I have used the following:
ES File Explorer
File Manager HD (Honeycomb)
ASTRO File Manager
You can navigate to your network share. When you go to open the file, you will be prompted which Media Player you would like to use. So, as long as you have a media player that supports your media, you should be good to go.
Ok this thread brings up a question i have. And maybe something the op should consider . DLNA apps such as bubble aVIA.. they allow you to select where to RENDER THE VIDEO . this can make the video much more smooth if you choose to render on the PC FILE SHARE SERVER.. not the tablet.
playing the video from a file manager .. just opens the video as a network share playing the video on the tablet with the tablets resources...
my Question is.. are the above situations true.. If so DLNA would be faster more smooth and use far less battery on the tablet.. I believe it to be true because playing a video out from tablet thru hdmi cable eats battery .Using dlna is less taxing on the tablet..
splashtop could also be a answer to the above.. as i have played media thru it.
PLEASE if im wrong explain. thank you all Sorry to invade your thread OP. BUT ITS kinda related
toddroid said:
Almost any File Explorer should do the trick. I have used the following:
ES File Explorer
File Manager HD (Honeycomb)
ASTRO File Manager
You can navigate to your network share. When you go to open the file, you will be prompted which Media Player you would like to use. So, as long as you have a media player that supports your media, you should be good to go.
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I use File Manager HD with rocket player and access my network share directly with no DLNA.
I am not sure about subtitle support as I dont recall seeing them even though the .srt files are there.
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erica_renee said:
Ok this thread brings up a question i have. And maybe something the op should consider . DLNA apps such as bubble aVIA.. they allow you to select where to RENDER THE VIDEO . this can make the video much more smooth if you choose to render on the PC FILE SHARE SERVER.. not the tablet.
playing the video from a file manager .. just opens the video as a network share playing the video on the tablet with the tablets resources...
my Question is.. are the above situations true.. If so DLNA would be faster more smooth and use far less battery on the tablet.. I believe it to be true because playing a video out from tablet thru hdmi cable eats battery .Using dlna is less taxing on the tablet..
splashtop could also be a answer to the above.. as i have played media thru it.
PLEASE if im wrong explain. thank you all Sorry to invade your thread OP. BUT ITS kinda related
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Interesting point Erica, I am going to test that out. I have not jumped on the DLNA bandwagon yet just because all my files are on the same network but could see some benefits if I am coming in remotely.
ES File Explorer
MX Player
A500 - play without any stutter
Nook Color - required that I copy and paste the file onto local drive, wait 1 min then play without stutter.
Since this is an A500 site, the above method should work without issue...though subtitle is a hit or miss.
thanks all for the replies. I have been using bs player now.
As for battery usage through dlna rendering on the PC:
It converts the video on the PC to something the target device can play. There for unless it is rendering it into a format the target player can play with full hardware decoding you would not get any benefit from transcoding on the PC. Plus depending on the profile used it may render the video down to a lower quality.
Dlna can also do pass through in which case no transcoding is done at all.
Dlna is great if you do not want to worry about codec support on your target devices and battery usage will only be lower if the profile for hardware rendering is available on your DNLA server.
I hope all that makes sense to everyone.
Makes perfect sense..
Im not big in video playing on my tablet. I just know those options are there.. I Can understand a reduction of the Quality from the desktop pc resolution to that of the tablet.. We have a 28 inch monitor set very very high. As i do digital drawing with CS5. Using my WACOM INTUOS 4 PEN Tablet.. yes a plug here for them. The thing ROCKS. if you are into digital drawing.
Anyway I just do know that using dlna for me uses much less battery. Try starting your GPS'WEB BROWSER and say running a few other apps in the background of your tab.. Launch a video thru file manager network share.. YOU Will see your battery DRAIN VERY Quickly.. Do the same thing but dlna .. IT WILL Last much longer...
This could actaully be tested with a network traffic or data monitoring app. to see what is going on in the background under each situation...
THE SIMPLE ANSWER IS . There is no perfect solution... thanks for hearing me try to be Smart.. i am blonde remember .. Giggles BUY WACOM TABLET. HEHEHHE
Just a quick note - file managers, mx video player, rockplayer etc. need to cache the file locally and do not support streaming. BSPlayer and Buzz player would start playback immediately without downloading the video on your tab. DLNA is a nice options as well but I don't know if there are free ones available or at least such that support multiformat transcoding and external subtitles.
Apparently I am wrong:
http://www.serviio.org/features
drkalo said:
Just a quick note - file managers, mx video player, rockplayer etc. need to cache the file locally and do not support streaming. BSPlayer and Buzz player would start playback immediately without downloading the video on your tab. DLNA is a nice options as well but I don't know if there are free ones available or at least such that support multiformat transcoding and external subtitles.
Apparently I am wrong:
http://www.serviio.org/features
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I do not think this is correct. I have watched full length movies on my tab (>1Gb) using a combination of File Manager HD (Or ES File Explorer) and Rock Player and the playback starts immediately. I dont think it is being streamed, just opened and played directly as if it were a local file.
Thanks smishra, then it must be RockPlayer's feature. Haven't been using it for a long time because it didn't support Tegra2 HW acceleration at that time. Just tried MX Video Player and it works as well so streaming is obviously implemented. Sorry if I have misled someone. I don't think file managers play the movie, so it doesn't matter which one you use as long as your player supports streaming.
Another thread on this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1480697
I use MX Player, browse to the share using the HoneyComb file manager, then when I get to the share open the file and choose MX Player (Install from market first with MX Player codec for ARMv7). It even supports mkvs!
"Cifsmanage" allows you to mount a windows share as a local folder. Once you mount it you can use any video player to access the files. You must be rooted but it works good.
mr_malina said:
"Cifsmanage" allows you to mount a windows share as a local folder. Once you mount it you can use any video player to access the files. You must be rooted but it works good.
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Good point, I just noticed in my Rock player that it wants you to specify the location of the subtitle files. I normally keep these in the same folder as the videos so the only way that I can think of to access them would be to mount using CIFS and then play the video from there with subtitles.

Nexus 7 Can't Play/Stream online video..

Hello everyone. I am having an issue with my Nexus 7 using Google Chrome Browser where it will not stream most online video from a lot of websites. If I go to the verge, or Engadget and try to stream there video reviews I get either an error or the video just freezes. I tried switching user agents to iPad, desktop, etc and still no luck.
When I use my iPad 2 to play the video on those websites it loads up and plays with no issues. I am also having this issue ona lot of other websites I come across.
Is this am android limitation or am I just missing a plug in or something.
Flash isn't supported on Chrome. You need to install latest flash apk and use either AOSP Browser ( you need to sideload this, serach the fourms you will get how to do that) or Firefox Beta , both these browser support flash videos. I have had smooth experience with AOSP browser so would recommend that. If you cant find it let me know.
The iPad doesn't support flash either and plays the videos with no issues. So I don't think flash is the issue. The videos are not flash but I'm not sure what format they are.
Did you try any other browser like Firefox or AOSP Browser whether you are facing same issue?
can you post the website? maybe we can try the site n see if its your device, or something we can help with.
Unless the site supports HTML 5 video you will need to use a different browser and install flash.
Sent from my Paranoid Nexus 7
I tried it with the stock browser and it does not work with it either (fyi im using cm10.. here are the links)
http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/30/apple-ipad-mini-review/
http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/30/3576178/apple-ipad-mini-review
Its the videos that are embedded with the page.
I looked at those and also found the videos did not play. This is strange because I can stream flas from other sites (flash apk in Maxthon browser).
The videos played fine for me ( it takes a half a minute before it starts playing ) on both AOSP browser and Firefox beta.
I am using Team EOS nightly 37 + franco kernel r25.

[Q] Are you able to watch 1080p movies with Nexus 10?

Hi,
When I bought the Nexus 10, my original thought was to use it to watch movies. Meaning, stream video from my pc using the wifi LAN (I also thought to use it as a streamer by connecting it to my TV via HDMI, but that's another story).
However, this doesn't work right. There are many movies that appear laggy/jumpy/buggy on the Nexus 10 itself (even without connecting it to a TV via HDMI).
Especially when I try to play high quality 1080p mkv files (about 10GB-15GB per movie). I don't have issues with lower quality 720p movies/series, but half the 1080p movies I just can't play right.
I have tried the following players: MX player, BS player, VLC beta, XMBC for android.
My benchmark is Avatar (exteneded) mkv 1080p, a 15GB size file. The only player that was able to play it is BS player, and only when I set it to use the "experimental HW decoding". But even that way, the fps seems to be a bit low. All other players play this movie like a powerpoint presentation, slide by slide...
I thought that the Nexus 10 hardware is strong enough to play 1080p movies. But now I'm not sure. Is it hardware limitation? is it the players fault that doesn't use properly the N10 hardware?
I a bit frustrated here, any help is appreciated!
did you try to put the file on your N10 instead of streaming it? That will rule out any potential WIFI bottleneck which may occur with files that size. Just to be sure. I cannot offer any other advice unfortunately.
Animor said:
Hi,
When I bought the Nexus 10, my original thought was to use it to watch movies. Meaning, stream video from my pc using the wifi LAN (I also thought to use it as a streamer by connecting it to my TV via HDMI, but that's another story).
However, this doesn't work right. There are many movies that appear laggy/jumpy/buggy on the Nexus 10 itself (even without connecting it to a TV via HDMI).
Especially when I try to play high quality 1080p mkv files (about 10GB-15GB per movie). I don't have issues with lower quality 720p movies/series, but half the 1080p movies I just can't play right.
I have tried the following players: MX player, BS player, VLC beta, XMBC for android.
My benchmark is Avatar (exteneded) mkv 1080p, a 15GB size file. The only player that was able to play it is BS player, and only when I set it to use the "experimental HW decoding". But even that way, the fps seems to be a bit low. All other players play this movie like a powerpoint presentation, slide by slide...
I thought that the Nexus 10 hardware is strong enough to play 1080p movies. But now I'm not sure. Is it hardware limitation? is it the players fault that doesn't use properly the N10 hardware?
I a bit frustrated here, any help is appreciated!
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Have you tried MX player's hw+ mode? Also try dice player. I have tried a higher resolution than 1080 and it worked fine in MX but it was mp4!
As I have no bluray remuxes or space on my tablet to try them, I have downloaded the test video called "Birds" from here, 40 mbps bluray remux and with MX player I can play it using HW codec with no stutter or lag. With SW Codec it has stutter and through network stream from PC with SW codec it stutters as well, and HW codec doesn't seem to work at all through network stream
I hope this helps.
Thank you all for your help!
I have made several trials according to your advices. The problem is indeed the wifi.
I have copied a movie that didn't run well through wifi to my N10 ("The Host" - 12GB), and it ran just fine with both BS and MX!
I have also tried "birds" from the post above me. When I tried to run it through wifi:
- MX player with hw+ was completely stuck on the first picture.
- BS player with experimental decoding was very bad, but a bit better than MX.
I have tried it with the N10 very close to the router, so it's not bad wifi reception.
When I copied "birds" file to my N10, it ran just fine with both MX and BS. Since it's 40mps bluray, it's much heavier than any of my 10-15GB movies in terms of mpbs.
Anyway, the problem is indeed caused by the wifi, which is a major bottleneck. Now the question is where is exactly the problem: the router (I have N type router)? N10 wifi? my computer wired Ethernet connection to the router?
How do regular streamers work with 1080p content?
Can I do anything to fix this bottleneck? Perhaps a better router?
What if I use usb OTG and connect USB DOK directly to the N10, do you think it may work?
Thanks again for your help!
Ah glad you got it to work finally. Yes the router can play a part in it, however if you are happy with your wifi setup otherwise (stability, range etc) I would not change the router just for this. There is no guarantee that a different router may indeed play your file without hiccups. It may also be that the tablet wifi is not up to the task of streaming the movies, but this is just an assumption on my part.
The cheapest solution, while not the most comfortable one, would be to use an OTG cable and a nice 64GB USB stick and just fill that with movies when you want to watch them. Maybe you can find more info on the net regarding streaming and wifi issues and solutions, but be ready to drop some cash for those routers.
EDIT: there is some good info in this thread http://forums.smallnetbuilder.com/showthread.php?t=7761
EDIT2: and here http://forums.smallnetbuilder.com/showthread.php?t=2755
I have the same router type N, cheap one that came free from my ISP, talktalk, and exactly the same issues when trying to play through network. I know that when trying to copy something through LAN from my PC to my tablet via ES File Explorer, it only downloads at 300KB/s, which is slower then when I download something off the internet at 1.8MB/s (which is the maximum I get from my ISP) so this leads me to believe that the problem isn't the router, because it can download fast enough for 1080p (maybe not fast enough for that "birds" test at 40mbps, though) this leaves the protocol that android uses to talk to windows PC, the Samba share or something like that.
Do you use windows as well? I'm thinking of trying to stream through a linux share, see how that goes.
I also use Windows - I've defined a user with password on windows and I connect to the workgroup on my pc with it. Perhaps you are right and this is the issue. Please update if you find a faster way to stream.
What if we use an external hdd which will connect to the router? You think it might help?
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Animor said:
I also use Windows - I've defined a user with password on windows and I connect to the workgroup on my pc with it. Perhaps you are right and this is the issue. Please update if you find a faster way to stream.
What if we use an external hdd which will connect to the router? You think it might help?
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Hey, I've made some good progress.
I downloaded an app called MediaHouse UPnP / DLNA Browser from app store and a uPnP server (I used XBMC - all I had to do to set it up after installing it was to add my movies folder under videos and then go into system>settings>services>uPnP and select share video and libraries trough UPnP) and that's it. Then I just open MediaHouse on my Nexus 10 (leave xbmc in background on pc) and browse my files... It works much better then the normal share: I can play movies that I couldn't play before with MX Player and play them using HW+ decoder. The "Birds" demo isn't great but it's much better, I had the best results using bs player, but still a bit laggy, but since you say your videos aren't quite that high in bitrate, maybe you'll get lucky.
I hope this helps. Bye
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Hey, I've made some good progress.
I downloaded an app called MediaHouse UPnP / DLNA Browser from app store and a uPnP server (I used XBMC - all I had to do to set it up after installing it was to add my movies folder under videos and then go into system>settings>services>uPnP and select share video and libraries trough UPnP) and that's it. Then I just open MediaHouse on my Nexus 10 (leave xbmc in background on pc) and browse my files... It works much better then the normal share: I can play movies that I couldn't play before with MX Player and play them using HW+ decoder. The "Birds" demo isn't great but it's much better, I had the best results using bs player, but still a bit laggy, but since you say your videos aren't quite that high in bitrate, maybe you'll get lucky.
I hope this helps. Bye
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Thank you, this is indeed a very good progress. I was able to play 1080p movies!
Only problem is I can't stream .srt subtitles files along with the movie. The srt file is at the same directory of the movie. XMBC on my pc plays the subtitles, but on my N10 using MediaHouse, it's just being ignored.
Any advice?
Animor said:
Thank you, this is indeed a very good progress. I was able to play 1080p movies!
Only problem is I can't stream .srt subtitles files along with the movie. The srt file is at the same directory of the movie. XMBC on my pc plays the subtitles, but on my N10 using MediaHouse, it's just being ignored.
Any advice?
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OK, apparently uPnP doesn't support subtitles, but I have been able to copy the sub file over, normally, using ES file explorer and then, after you load the movie via mediahouse, in mx player you can click on menu>subtitles>open and select the file from your local storage where you saved it.
I hope this works.
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Thank you. This is not so comfortable, but I guess it should work.
I have posted a question to the author of mediaHouse, perhaps there is a more elegant solution...
Animor said:
Thank you all for your help!
I have made several trials according to your advices. The problem is indeed the wifi.
I have copied a movie that didn't run well through wifi to my N10 ("The Host" - 12GB), and it ran just fine with both BS and MX!
I have also tried "birds" from the post above me. When I tried to run it through wifi:
- MX player with hw+ was completely stuck on the first picture.
- BS player with experimental decoding was very bad, but a bit better than MX.
I have tried it with the N10 very close to the router, so it's not bad wifi reception.
When I copied "birds" file to my N10, it ran just fine with both MX and BS. Since it's 40mps bluray, it's much heavier than any of my 10-15GB movies in terms of mpbs.
Anyway, the problem is indeed caused by the wifi, which is a major bottleneck. Now the question is where is exactly the problem: the router (I have N type router)? N10 wifi? my computer wired Ethernet connection to the router?
How do regular streamers work with 1080p content?
Can I do anything to fix this bottleneck? Perhaps a better router?
What if I use usb OTG and connect USB DOK directly to the N10, do you think it may work?
Thanks again for your help!
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Here is an alternate OTG solution that I use for HD content of all types.(OTG USB Gigabit Ethernet adapter). Just a thought. Note that the drivers for this adapter are in the stock ROM.
http://goo.gl/v2nwLa
I've found another solution:
Using MKVmerge, you can easily merge mkv and srt file. It takes only 2-3 minutes for a movie. Output file is mkv file with embedded subtitles. I've checked it and MX player shows the subtitles just fine via MediaHouse.
Download from here.
Hi!
It took a while but I read the whole thread! I'm happy that you mostly solved your issue, about the Wi-Fi issue it's caused by your LAN speed, I use my old Xoom as media server here, sometimes it becomes really laggy, I solved this problem connecting both the devices (Nexus 10 and Xoom) on my S4 hotspot, believe this is FAST! Using SuperBeam app I usually get from 35-40Mbps. I think most of the android phones with hotspot functionality may have good speeds.
I use Bubble UPnP BTW! Also, if you think too uncomfortable having to manually select your subtitle, I believe BS Player still downloads it automatically and put on auto too. It used to do this with me, I don't know if it still downloads .
Well, those are just some more alternatives you may want to try . As there are some good solutions over there!
All the best,
~Lord
Great news, people!
 @bv90andy
I have found a way to stream external srt subtitles along with the movie, using uPnP.
Apparently, only some uPnP media servers and clients support it. In addition, only some movie players can extract this information when streamed through uPnP. I've found several such uPnP media servers, but most of them require payment after a trial period. However, I've managed to find one that doesn't!
So, in order to stream videos with external srt, you need the following:
1. Serviio on you PC.
2. BubbleUPnP on your android device.
3. MX player on your android device.
4. The srt file should have the same name of the movie file, and they have to reside both at the same directory in your PC.
Enjoy!
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about the Wi-Fi issue it's caused by your LAN speed
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You are mistaken - read again the thread. The bottleneck is not the LAN speed or the router, it's smb/cisf protocol, which is too slow to stream 1080p videos. Using uPnP protocol instead of smb/cisf, over the same LAN and with the same router, we have managed to solves the issue.
Animor said:
Great news, people!
@bv90andy
I have found a way to stream external srt subtitles along with the movie, using uPnP.
Apparently, only some uPnP media servers and clients support it. In addition, only some movie players can extract this information when streamed through uPnP. I've found several such uPnP media servers, but most of them require payment after a trial period. However, I've managed to find one that doesn't!
So, in order to stream videos with external srt, you need the following:
1. Serviio on you PC.
2. BubbleUPnP on your android device.
3. MX player on your android device.
4. The srt file should have the same name of the movie file, and they have to reside both at the same directory in your PC.
Enjoy!
ps:You are mistaken - read again the thread. The bottleneck is not the LAN speed or the router, it's smb/cisf protocol, which is too slow to stream 1080p videos. Using uPnP protocol instead of smb/cisf, over the same LAN and with the same router, we have managed to solves the issue.
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Thanks for sharing that.

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