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Apps2sd?

Is there a way to enable apps2sd with stock 2.2.1 firmware or if not what roms are available to do so?
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Try liberty and/or root tools by jrummy16. It seems to be the most popular way to go.

murderfacekill said:
Is there a way to enable apps2sd with stock 2.2.1 firmware or if not what roms are available to do so?
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Sorry, i gotta ask... why do this? DroidX has what? 8gb internal? apps2sd is not compatible with all apps (widgets, etc), and it certainly improve performance. AFAIK it also decreases sd card life? Why? It's not for more space, it's not for performance, and it's not gonna help compatiblity, why??

I have to go +1 on apps2sd being a bad call for the X. I had literally hundreds of apps on mine. Only a few play well with apps2sd, one reason I outgrew my D1. Memory is one thing they addressed with the X. You could fill it up, but there is just no way you would fill it up with apps you actually use. There is an app called apps2sd free on the market if you want to play with it, but I promise you there is no need, and after you test it, you will see that there's just no reason to use it. I actually went through and edited the apps that automatically install to SD (such as Twidroid) so that they would install to phone.

[Q] Max size of app?

I just finished a new app that is about 32mb. I have 70mb of free space on my phone, but when I try to install the apk it says "not even space, could not install, please free up some space and try again." Even though the app is quite large, 70mb of space should be more than enough. Does anyone know why it won't install? Are apk's not allowed to be >30mb or something? This is the biggest app I've made so far so I haven't had to deal with this issue before, all of my other apps were less than 10mb.

It should have worked.
Here are the limits as I know it:
1. Android market allows a maximum of 50MB per apk.
2. Installing to SD card is also limited but I don't know the actual limit.
3. Installing to internal memory is limited to 50% of free memory.
Try adding android:installLocation="preferExternal" to your manifest file.
Disclaimer: things might have changed since the last time I checked, so I might be wrong.

roee88 said:
Try adding android:installLocation="preferExternal" to your manifest file.
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I would prefer: android:installLocation="auto" so one can choose where to install the app and you can do different tests. Anyway may attention: this could be used only for api level >8 (it seems it could be used even for OS <2.2 but I've not tested for it).

Hmm I'll try that. I might look into getting a new phone as well because this Desire is starting to feel outdated. Internal memory is so small that I have to uninstall an app almost every time I want to install a new one.

rpimps said:
Hmm I'll try that. I might look into getting a new phone as well because this Desire is starting to feel outdated. Internal memory is so small that I have to uninstall an app almost every time I want to install a new one.
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ever tried apps2sd?
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plants vs zombies apk is almost 75mb all on internal.

sweetnsour said:
ever tried apps2sd?
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What's the difference between apps2sd and just going into the default Android settings and transferring the apps to the sd?
The problem I have is most of the huge apps don't let you transfer them.

rpimps said:
What's the difference between apps2sd and just going into the default Android settings and transferring the apps to the sd?
The problem I have is most of the huge apps don't let you transfer them.
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if I remember correctly, apps2sd allows you to move the entire /data folder to your SD card (/data is what takes up your internal memory)
just search "desire apps2sd" and I'm sure youll find something
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HD+, CM10 vs Rooted stock?

I'm playing with CM10 on a 16gb class 10, its dog slow compared to a properly running device (like my GS3 on CM10.1). Before I spend a few hours getting the stock rom rooted, gapps, side loading, etc.. enabled. Is it faster.

oic0 said:
I'm playing with CM10 on a 16gb class 10, its dog slow compared to a properly running device (like my GS3 on CM10.1). Before I spend a few hours getting the stock rom rooted, gapps, side loading, etc.. enabled. Is it faster.
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If you are running on a decent SD, CM10 is not slow. I can't say there is much difference between CM10 running on a good SD and stock. By good SD I mean a SanDisk class 4.
And it does not take a few hours to do those things to stock. Once you burn my CWM card, it is minutes to do all those things.
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leapinlar said:
If you are running on a decent SD, CM10 is not slow. I can't say there is much difference between CM10 running on a good SD and stock. By good SD I mean a SanDisk class 4.
And it does not take a few hours to do those things to stock. Once you burn my CWM card, it is minutes to do all those things.
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Sorry to jack the thread, but what speeds should you be seeing on a sandisk class 4 or any sd for that matter to have "good" speeds, I know random writes are most important, and for some reason I only get about 0.5 mb on my sandisk class 4

tigim101 said:
Sorry to jack the thread, but what speeds should you be seeing on a sandisk class 4 or any sd for that matter to have "good" speeds, I know random writes are most important, and for some reason I only get about 0.5 mb on my sandisk class 4
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Look at this thread. It is all about running Nook Color ROMs on SD and the cards that work best. It has benchmarks for many brands and classes. And is very applicable to the HD series.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12330898
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I would like to benchmark my EMMC with crystal mark but havent figured out how yet :/
As is though, I am using rooted stock 2.0.5 from leapinlar's guide. Its pretty dang fast. A lot faster than was shown in the review videos. Still not up there with my GS3, but about as good as my GS2 was (yes I realize those devices have less pixels to render, but its all I have to compare to). Regardless, its fast enough that I don't ever feel like I'm waiting and it has enough functionality to do basically everything. Thats enough for me to be happy with the device and use it till it falls apart. Too bad theres not some magical way to have this thing run from a small SSD over USB.

Do you need an SD card to be in the nook to run rooted stock? I'm interested in seeing how much faster it is than cm10, you can still access the stock reader right? And can you install paid apps from your Google account?
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tigim101 said:
Do you need an SD card to be in the nook to run rooted stock? I'm interested in seeing how much faster it is than cm10, you can still access the stock reader right? And can you install paid apps from your Google account?
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No need for SD in slot unless you want one. All stock stuff available plus paid apps if you flashed the gapps zip and registered with Google.
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That sounds amazing, can I use the same cwm SD card that I installed cm10 with to root stock?
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tigim101 said:
That sounds amazing, can I use the same cwm SD card that I installed cm10 with to root stock?
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Yes you can. I have the zips hard coded to install my zips to stock. Usually you can't but in this case you can.
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Just a note on doing the rooted stock thing, i was unable to get any of leaps cwm sd card images to boot. Could be my card, could be my reader, etc.. whatever. However the cwm images for installing CM10 did work, so I just wrote one of those images to it, and then replaced all of the files with the files from the image that can write to emmc. Probably something technical to do with alignment but whatever, it worked. Just an option if you have trouble getting it to boot from your card.

Chameleon OS.......Updated.

I'm seeing this on goo with very current nightlies for encore. Their web site doesn't say anything about the NC.
I know what this ROM is all about, but does anyone know anything about it for our device?
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Well, no one seemed to know about this ROM, so I flashed and installed it.
Runs very, very smoothly!!!
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Chameleon
Got a link to the download? I can't seem to find it.
Thanks
Jim
dparrothead1 said:
Well, no one seemed to know about this ROM, so I flashed and installed it.
Runs very, very smoothly!!!
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f1jim said:
Got a link to the download? I can't seem to find it.
Thanks
Jim
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I just stumbled across it on goo. Under "browse compatible ROMs". I have seen threads in the N7 and Original Note but nothing about the Nook.....doesn't even show on their web site.
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I stumbled on it also. Running great!
dparrothead1 said:
I just stumbled across it on goo. Under "browse compatible ROMs". I have seen threads in the N7 and Original Note but nothing about the Nook.....doesn't even show on their web site.
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sox1918 said:
I stumbled on it also. Running great!
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DITTO...cant believe how smooth it is..i thought cm 10.01 brought new life into my old nook, camellian takes it up a notch or 2

dparrothead1 said:
I just stumbled across it on goo. Under "browse compatible ROMs". I have seen threads in the N7 and Original Note but nothing about the Nook.....doesn't even show on their web site.
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I wanted to post in the other more active ChameleonOS NK thread here, but I couldn't because it's in the developer's section (I don't have enough posts yet). Anyway, I noticed that you posted a bunch of times in the other thread and was wondering what version of this ROM are you running? There were a few links to newer versions in that thread; newer than what's up on GOO. Have you tried any of them? There really wasn't any feedback posted about them either. The only real issue I've had is that I get random error messages saying, "Unfortunately, ChaOS Launcher has stopped". Don't know if a newer version would clear that up or I'm having some other issue. Great ROM other than that. It seems nice a clean, optimized for the NK. And it doesn't seem like some half baked, slightly modified phone OS with a bunch of extra parts like some of the ROMs floating around are. One thing I did have issues with (I noticed a few others were saying the same thing in the other thread) was getting Netflix to work right. I found others saying that you need Netflix version 1.8.1 for Nook Colors using a different ROM so I gave that a whirl and it worked. Also got Hulu+ working too. The version on Google Play says that it isn't compatible with the hardware, but downloading it through the Amazon App Store did the trick. Thanks in advance for any input.

Right now I'm running Gummy Rom....it's extremely smooth but without the customization of the Chemeleon Rom. Also, the Nook Color has been dropped as an official device by Chameleon.
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dparrothead1 said:
Right now I'm running Gummy Rom....it's extremely smooth but without the customization of the Chemeleon Rom. Also, the Nook Color has been dropped as an official device by Chameleon.
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Thanks for pointing me towards the Gummy ROM, I may give that a try soon (especially if they get a KitKat version of it going for the NC). Unfortunately I saw your response a little late and went with CM10.2 instead. It's been running fine for a while now but I do have one annoyance; I hate that app data goes right to the SD card. And there doesn't seem to be a practical way to have apps use the internal storage for that or the secondary partition. I feel that this would slow the Nook down a little and most importantly this doesn't really allow the option for swapping SD cards with different media on them viable. Does Gummy or any other ROMs have that same drawback?

ryanl2299 said:
Thanks for pointing me towards the Gummy ROM, I may give that a try soon (especially if they get a KitKat version of it going for the NC). Unfortunately I saw your response a little late and went with CM10.2 instead. It's been running fine for a while now but I do have one annoyance; I hate that app data goes right to the SD card. And there doesn't seem to be a practical way to have apps use the internal storage for that or the secondary partition. I feel that this would slow the Nook down a little and most importantly this doesn't really allow the option for swapping SD cards with different media on them viable. Does Gummy or any other ROMs have that same drawback?
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If you look at my NC Tips thread linked in my signature and read item A16, you will see there is an easy way to swap internal and external SDs. That way apps put their data on internal instead of external.
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leapinlar said:
If you look at my NC Tips thread linked in my signature and read item A16, you will see there is an easy way to swap internal and external SDs. That way apps put their data on internal instead of external.
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I had read that it couldn't be done with CM10, thanks for the info. I'll have to try that tonight.

ryanl2299 said:
I had read that it couldn't be done with CM10, thanks for the info. I'll have to try that tonight.
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It can't on some devices, like the Nook HD/HD+, but it works on the nook color.
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sooo, let me get this straight about the nook color...

i did the sd card theory with my nook color. i did 10.0, 10.2, 7.2. they all work great, wifi works, touch works, etc... but am i supposed to actually install it to the internal storage and wipe/format the nook itself or just run it off the sd card? if i am supposed to install it to the internal storage and wipe my nook then how do i do it?
thanks in advance...

wmikes said:
i did the sd card theory with my nook color. i did 10.0, 10.2, 7.2. they all work great, wifi works, touch works, etc... but am i supposed to actually install it to the internal storage and wipe/format the nook itself or just run it off the sd card? if i am supposed to install it to the internal storage and wipe my nook then how do i do it?
thanks in advance...
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That solely depends on what you *want* to do. You have the *option* of installing it to internal storage (emmc), but you do not *have* to do it that way. You can have a dual boot system with stock internally and CM on sdcard. Of course, you can also do the reverse.
Check out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25354258#post25354258
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wmikes said:
i did the sd card theory with my nook color. i did 10.0, 10.2, 7.2. they all work great, wifi works, touch works, etc... but am i supposed to actually install it to the internal storage and wipe/format the nook itself or just run it off the sd card? if i am supposed to install it to the internal storage and wipe my nook then how do i do it?
thanks in advance...
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I don't know what you mean by "supposed to". There is no "supposed to". It is your choice. Run it on SD like you said you did or choose to put it on internal memory. It works either way.
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leapinlar said:
I don't know what you mean by "supposed to". There is no "supposed to". It is your choice. Run it on SD like you said you did or choose to put it on internal memory. It works either way.
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Does it run faster on the internal memory? Not that I am expecting a speed demon.

miatapaul said:
Does it run faster on the internal memory? Not that I am expecting a speed demon.
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Only if you have a bad SD. If you have a good SD you will notice no real improvement going to internal.
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leapinlar said:
Only if you have a bad SD. If you have a good SD you will notice no real improvement going to internal.
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I am stopping off at Radio Shack (strangely one of the cheapest local sources and generally have real SanDisk) on my way home. Not sure if my Kingston one is giving me issues.

I got a sandisk and now it is working much better.
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miatapaul said:
Does it run faster on the internal memory? Not that I am expecting a speed demon.
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As others have said, there's no speed difference and the choice is yours. I chose to move from SD to EMMC (internal) because I wanted to free up the SD for extra storage capability, so moving the operating system to the internal was my reason..

boomtastic said:
As others have said, there's no speed difference and the choice is yours. I chose to move from SD to EMMC (internal) because I wanted to free up the SD for extra storage capability, so moving the operating system to the internal was my reason..
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Since I mainly use the SD card to store large books and encyclopedias, I have a class 4 SD. There was definitely a noticeable speed movement moving to boot from SD to EMMC.
Then again, most new SD cards are class 10.