Does this spell trouble for google? - Nexus S General

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/tech/2012/08/133_118544.html
Samsung has been the undisputed flagship carrier of Google’s Android mobile operating system. But the court defeat by Apple was an alarming development for Google, which sees Apple widening its battle front against Android makers. Google apparently doesn’t want the Samsung setback to drag the whole fleet down and is now distancing itself from its most critical business partner.
If samsung is the biggest seller of android phones. and google doesn't want the drag from samsung, do you think this will cause trouble for the android market if google is purposely distancing itself? I sure hope not

No
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Yes
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Peeps I wanna hear more opinions this could be serious for android:sly:
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Peeps I wanna hear more opinions this could be serious for android:sly:
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Why do u bother posting if u having useful to say?
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It could limit androids ideas and capabilities, but I hate apple.. so no matter what happens I will never get a iphone, ill go back to the 7 year old flip phone sitting in my drawer
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If they are moving away from Samsung , maybe we will see a Motorola nexus . I don't see it hurting android as Google hasn't even begun to fight apple yet!..
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How would Google move away from Samsung? Android is open source and Samsung is using Android by choice, no contracts.
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Through their statements.... read a lil news, I promise it won't hurt you.
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vetvito said:
How would Google move away from Samsung? Android is open source and Samsung is using Android by choice, no contracts.
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Well like it said in the article, Samsung is one of googles biggest business partners, so they could lose a lot of money and publicity of android
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How? When Samsung doesn't buy anything from Google.
Call it fanatical journalism. Samsung isn't going anywhere.
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vetvito said:
How? When Samsung doesn't buy anything from Google.
Call it fanatical journalism. Samsung isn't going anywhere.
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Finally, somebody who thinks before jumping to conclusions. The lawsuit has no effect on Android as an entity. It's open source, nothing short of the end of the world will hurt it.

google never said they were distancing themselves from samsung, thats what the reporter said. Google just said the samsung trial had nothing to do with them. thats not distancing, its distinguishing.

i understand what you guys are saying, but from the public eye who doesn't know much about android OS like some of us do, it spells bad publicity to android dont you think? samsung is the biggest distributor of android phones and if samsung is being sued by apple and if apple is winning these law suits then the public is going to say, hey maybe they're just a rip-off blah blah blah so they won't buy samsung. google could lose alot of money with this.

^ the public isn't aware. Just ask your neighbor, coworker etc.... They have no clue.
Apple is only winning in the US. The world is much larger beyond the US.
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tmobile and samsung getting sued over froyo

http://nexus404.com/Blog/2011/01/16...t-mobile-vibrants-lack-of-android-2-2-update/
check it out theyre delaying froyo for the vibrant owners on tmo, and now there is a class action suit on it...lol i hope it makes it to court so then every single manufacturer gets their **** straight before promising upgrades
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Nice lawsuit.
Nice thread.
Nice pic.
I hope samsung gets rolled on like saddam's army.
I would love to see this lawsuit go somewhere, but the only one that will benefit is lawyers. Phone makers just wont announce any updates until they are ready to be released fearful of lawsuits.
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Nice lawsuit.
Nice thread.
Nice pic.
I hope samsung gets rolled on like saddam's army.
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This is my favorite response of the day.
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Btw............
*tosses OP an m1a1*
You're gonna need it to protect against the rockets that's gonna be hurled at you lol
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Yeah I don't really see this taking off. For one it is inaccurate. It states that the other branded Galaxy S phones have been upgraded to Froyo. Last time I checked none of them have Froyo yet.
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Yeah I don't really see this taking off. For one it is inaccurate. It states that the other branded Galaxy S phones have been upgraded to Froyo. Last time I checked none of them have Froyo yet.
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The i9000 does. And the canadians.
Its just the US.
And I think samsung purposely told tmo to not release the update because it would impeed sales of the vibrant 4g, which would definitely be against the law since all galaxy s phones were launched with the specific statement of "will be upgraded to android 2.2"
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The i9000 does. And the canadians.
Its just the US.
And I think samsung purposely told tmo to not release the update because it would impeed sales of the vibrant 4g, which would definitely be against the law since all galaxy s phones were launched with the specific statement of "will be upgraded to android 2.2"
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I still don't see how its against the law. Frowned on yes but illegal? as long as they come out with 2.2 its not false advertisement.
The original post is in the xda vibrant general section. It has the lawyers name, number, etc. Can't link atm.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=912480
about time.
False. He didn't even put the paperwork in. He lied from the beginning, and from the looks of things he was marketing himself, and now is selling is rap music. So looks like he pulled a fast one on people. Great way for him to get his name out there.

Seems like he is mad

Well, I've been reading Google news and i saw this. http://www.pcworld.com/article/237339/google_shows_how_not_to_complain_about_the_patent_mess.html
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looking at the comments, makes me lol. Seems like some Apple fans
True, but Apple doesn't pay for its OS, it actually makes it, unlike Google, they bought it, shoved a bunch of stolen tech from other companies, repackaged it as "Google invention" and gave it away. Remeber, MS is making the bulk of manufacturers pay them between $5 and $10 per handest, then you add in Apple's cut, RIM's cut, Oracle's cut and whomever else's cut from each phone sold and you see their profits decline even further. Also MS makes more money off Android than Google does in Ads, kind of sad isn't it. To me Android does not make any sense to hang onto as a manufacturer, its not a viable and sustainable OS, its fragmentation is a joke, and the security is laughable. The only reason they sell these cheap plastic knockoffs are because of two reasons, and two resons only, first its free or darn cheap and second, it's not made by Apple. In its simpliest terms, that is the only reasons why.
Android sold people on the fact that it is so called open and free, its not, at all, but most people bought into that idea. Why? because Google told them so, so people beleived it. Truth is, Android is the worst Mobile OS in history when it comes to fragmantation, malware, trojans, viruses, and a slew of other problems. More so than ANY phone on the market, worse than Windows Mobile. Heck, I'd go as far as to say Android is neck and neck with the windows desktop OS when it comes to security threats and like I said, its the ONLY mobile OS to have this big of a problem. If you call having to install an anti-virus program on a mobile free and open, then you can have it.]
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First couple lines there made me think he was talking about Apple, not Google.
Unfortunately these type of people read something, take it into some wild theory, and then spew it out for others to digest.
You can tell he's the type that you couldn't convince the earth was round if he believed its flat.
mattykinsx said:
First couple lines there made me think he was talking about Apple, not Google.
Unfortunately these type of people read something, take it into some wild theory, and then spew it out for others to digest.
You can tell he's the type that you couldn't convince the earth was round if he believed its flat.
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+1 agreed.
Wow!!!!
Talking about being mad! I could understand if he was one of the head honchos in Apple but a fan? I guess the Apple fever became an "Obsession" for this guy!
Hahahahahaha this almost made me piss myself from laughing.
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when i first saw it i was like *FACEPALM* then started laughing lol
Haha that is funny you can tell that guy knows sh#$
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If he knew a little better the history behind Apple he would know that Steve Jobs stole the OS from BSD. So in reality, who really is the real thief here? LOL
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Lmfao!
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Hahahahahaha this almost made me piss myself from laughing.
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hahah i know right!!
I bet if he owned a android device, he would be to stupid to know how to use it.HAHA
HE does own one. Why you think he posted all that BS. Tojans?? Viruses?? Malware??
WTF is he talking about???
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HE does own one. Why you think he posted all that BS. Tojans?? Viruses?? Malware??
WTF is he talking about???
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LMFAO....10 char
He probably tried to root an android phone and failed....
finally got it down and flashed a rom from another phone and bricked his phone...fail..
he owns iPhone and thinks that's god gifts to ever human on earth...fail..
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AA27 said:
If he knew a little better the history behind Apple he would know that Steve Jobs stole the OS from BSD. So in reality, who really is the real thief here? LOL
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Bsd?
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Nexus S and Nexus S 4G Support in ICS AOSP

Both the Nexus S and Sprint variant are now supported with the latest version of AOSP. Which means 4G owners need not worry about receiving an update.
I can't post links due to being a new member, but feel free to check the AOSP website for more info. Drivers are also posted at the usual page.
yes. big surprise. also saw my xoom get support
I had already starting downloading stuff. I'm not gonna promise anything, but i'll see if there's anything I can do.
Good luck and god speed...
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With 4.0.3 being the base platform, a dev should be able to build from source(real source, not a g nex port) right? Minus wimax of course. I would assume we will have to wait for the official ota......
Long days and pleasant nights............
Someone said this wimax drivers were out too on aosps ns4g ice thread.... I wonder how long before on of the amazing devs get to working on a fully supported pics for ns4g
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I don't know why they as in Google couldn't send the ota to all Nexus s version 2day it ****ing sucks funny thing is Sprint the only one that has Google wallet the others don't want it Cuz they want there own version of wallet for payments which Google doesn't like look at Verizon so Sprint shows them love & we have to wait for who knows how long I hope its bye next week!
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I don't know why they as in Google couldn't send the ota to all Nexus s version 2day it ****ing sucks funny thing is Sprint the only one that has Google wallet the others don't want it Cuz they want there own version of wallet for payments which Google doesn't like look at Verizon so Sprint shows them love & we have to wait for who knows how long I hope its bye next week!
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No kidding. That's so stupid. I can't wait for ICS with wimax. I've been forgoing 4g just because I love ICS so much. That was a slap in the face. Hope the devs hop on this.
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The NS4G is not the only NS that hasn't gotten official update. AFAIK, the AT&T NS (which I have) hasn't gotten it officially either.
What website is being spoken of
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any news on when the 4g ICS will b pushed
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Beat me to it, a guys gotta take a breath every now and then or he will turn blue and pass out and then whoever finds him next will have to dial 911 or what ever passes for emergency in the country that they are in and they will have to tell them that some one passed out and had turned blue because they read something on the internets without any punctuation and that caused them to keep reading and reading without stopping to take a breath as they thought that maybe that is how the person typing it meant it to be read but no no no it wasn't meant to be read that way instead the now blue guy was supposed to just guess where to take his breaths since the person who typed what he was reading wouldn't give him a clue as to where those breaks were supposed to be anyway I hope from now on he uses more punctuation as I don't like turning blue from reading thank god I am just typing this and not reading it or it probably would have caused me to turn blue again
Idk.....but since tmo had ns 1st and then att and then sprint, I would think that's the order they would release in.....frankly, I'm hoping someone can compile a fully functional build before my ns4g gets the "official" ota.......
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So about that 4G version being pushed....
CLZJCasper said:
So about that 4G version being pushed....
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Who said that?
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NS4G is supported in AOSP(the proprietary files for it are even on the site), i'll see if I can do something tonight. I might of downloaded everything or at least most of what I need. But i'm not in Linux at the moment right now, i'll go back in there tonight, like I said I can't promise. I'll see if I can do something.
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Who said that?
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nothing yet but with NS source out we can expect better ROMs at least
I have the proprietary Samsung ICS files for the NS4G, if i'm not mistaken, it looks like after everything is put together, the rom will have wiimax.
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No kidding. That's so stupid. I can't wait for ICS with wimax. I've been forgoing 4g just because I love ICS so much. That was a slap in the face. Hope the devs hop on this.
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I second that
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Will we see a Dropbox hack soon?

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Sorry but I don't get it. Can you clarify?
So you an get Dropbox from the play store so what?
If you mean getting the same amount of gb as galaxy s 3 then I hope not because otherwise it will discourage this great thing of Dropbox or other cloud provider in doing such sweet deals
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nandihno said:
So you an get Dropbox from the play store so what?
If you mean getting the same amount of gb as galaxy s 3 then I hope not because otherwise it will discourage this great thing of Dropbox or other cloud provider in doing such sweet deals
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Discourage? Sweet deal?
they are getting paid by Samsung you know that right? -_-
also it has been done with Sense 4 ROMs on HTC Sensation and that didn't DISCOURAGE them to provide that same offer to SGSIII users
It's business there's no such thing as discourage in business its sweet deal to THEM as Samsung is buying HUGE amount of space from them!
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Discourage? Sweet deal?
they are getting paid by Samsung you know that right? -_-
also it has been done with Sense 4 ROMs on HTC Sensation and that didn't DISCOURAGE them to provide that same offer to SGSIII users
It's business there's no such thing as discourage in business its sweet deal to THEM as Samsung is buying HUGE amount of space from them!
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The people that hacked the HTC drop box apk had the 'extra' space removed. Furthermore the guy who did the actual hack was 'asked' by Drop box to refrain from hacking their app.
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stoney73 said:
You should really try and read more. The people that hacked the HTC drop box apk had the 'extra' space removed. Furthermore the guy who did the actual hack was 'asked' by Drop box to refrain from hacking their app.
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Oh was he? That's unfortunate as the extra 50GBs free for two years would be pretty decent especially those with the 20GB added from HTC.
i got a hack for b*x.c*m, its a 50gb hack...
i wont post it here coz i assume its against the regulations of site.. and so this post.
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Oh was he? That's unfortunate as the extra 50GBs free for two years would be pretty decent especially those with the 20GB added from HTC.
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Yeah....it was nice having the extra space
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stoney73 said:
The people that hacked the HTC drop box apk had the 'extra' space removed. Furthermore the guy who did the actual hack was 'asked' by Drop box to refrain from hacking their app.
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try and read more what?! did i say he kept it?! he said that a move like that might make dropbox stop supporting these kind of NICE services so i told him it happened already and they kept doing it as they are getting PAID for it, relax dude have a beer or something
Unless it is indefinite I would keep my storage down to the "free" level. The problem is once they hook you into all that storage and it becomes necessary and the only option they then can start billing. Likely something people would not have done themselves.
As for me. I'd prefer a 32MB phone with a 64MB card.....I am my own DropBox.
I do have the free account to upload files I want to later use on my phone or in my business to transfer shared files when necessary . But I don't use it for Mass Storage.
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Nice to see someone from the wonderful island nation of Barbados here!! I live in St. James near Holetown a month or two out of the year on average. Haven't been down in a while though (getting homesick something awful!) .
What provider are you using, and how are the data speeds? I usually go with a pay-as-you-go SIM from Digicell (good for island hopping), but might go C&W if there are better speeds/data buckets/tariffs.

What a joke "KITKAT"

It is so repulsive that Google is getting on the advertising train even with their naming convention. I cant believe they are calling the new OS "KITKAT" instead of "KeyLimePie". Should be "KickbackKingdom" or "KeepKneepads".
Disgusting to me,
Stingerrray
It's indeed getting more commercial which CAN mean that they('Google') only see $$ bills and don't give much attention about their OS.
Again, this is a possibility and I don't think this will happen due the fact that it's Google.
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Oh , It's for sure!
http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2013/09/04/google-kitkat-operating-system/2763249/
Ridiculous!!!
its true and you can win a tablet
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http://www.android.com/kitkat/
learn about kitkat 4.4
http://kitkat.com/
i like kitkats it was only a matter of time when google does this and makes android more private to protect its investment and the interest of others, if you dont like it you can ubuntu
Stingerrray said:
It is so repulsive that Google is getting on the advertising train even with their naming convention. I cant believe they are calling the new OS "KITKAT" instead of "KeyLimePie". Should be "KickbackKingdom" or "KeepKneepads".
Disgusting to me,
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If they can make easy money by just naming the OS as KitKat, then why not do it? After all, it's not the name that matters, it's the OS itself.
Well
abaaaabbbb63 said:
If they can make easy money by just naming the OS as KitKat, then why not do it? After all, it's not the name that matters, it's the OS itself.
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I Suppose. But for some reason it really bothers me. Maybe It's just me.
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I dont see a problem. Naming each version of android based on sweets and deserts is purely fun as far as i can see. I also doubt google is making much if any off this, its just a nice collaboration.
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I Suppose. But for some reason it really bothers me. Maybe It's just me.
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Yes, well sell your phone if it bothers you that much and buy a WP or iOS based phone.
Is http://www.android.com/kitkat/ showing in Dutch for anyone else?
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Is http://www.android.com/kitkat/ showing in Dutch for anyone else?
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It shows in German for me.
Possibility that you are right.
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Yes, well sell your phone if it bothers you that much and buy a WP or iOS based phone.
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Yes, You could be right. Maybe I will give one of the others a try. Had Nexus One, Nexus S, Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 4. Last Windows Phone was (Windows Mobile 6.1) not too fond of that. Never hurts to try. Nice suggestion mate!
Stingerrray
Hand on heart, I just don't care.
Apart from the fact the name sucks, that is. I'd really wish they'd stop with these awful names.
Wait.... Is it kitkat instead of Android or kitkat instead android?
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Stingerrray said:
It is so repulsive that Google is getting on the advertising train even with their naming convention. [ ]
Disgusting to me,
Stingerrray
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Not even a smidgen of disgust compared to any evil deeds committed by Nestle.
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Dr.Molestratus said:
Wait.... Is it kitkat instead of Android or kitkat instead android?
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Oops, should stop XDAing while in class kitkat instead of jellybean or kitkat instead of Android?
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Why is everybody bent out of shape? No money was exchanged in this deal at all, it was corporate synergy at its best. The reason Google went with KitKat was because KitKat bars are the Google teams favorite chocolate bar and they wanted to acknowledge that. They asked KitKat for their permission and 24hours later they agreed and decided to take it a step further and launch a campaign around the idea.
Google gets more recognition for android with the non techie people because more of them will actually know about the new android updates and their naming scheme. You can just imagine regular people wanting to know what the next android "flavor" will be, and they might actually start demanding updates and force the hands of the carriers and manufacturers because more people will actually care about them. Hell, Google might even make this a yearly thing and if it goes well we might have companies clamoring to be "The next big update" kind of like how people wait to see who the next Bond is going to be, but on a smaller scale.
KitKat will get marketing practically free, and have an association with the most popular mobile OS in the world. They now have permission to use Andy the android in their commercials, and if you go to the KitKat website you can see what I'm talking about. They just created an entire marketing campaign around android without paying Google a single cent
Perfect corporate synergy, this is a CEO's wet dream.
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<3
I absolutely love it. Everyone knew the android OS was being named after delicious treats.
After all, it threw a curve ball to anyone and everyone on the KeyLimePie bandwagon. I mean key lime pie does start with a K. but the word Key itself isnt essentially a "Treat" instead the word "pie" is the treat. Key lime is just the flavor. You know? Just a random rant.
What's the fuss?
I got news for you guys, Google has been a for-profit organization since they got started and makes BILLIONS of dollars in profit yearly. To act like they were your favorite "indie" music band that just sold out with this move is a little disingenuous (IMHO).
Android is a mess right now as everyone is trying to abuse the open nature to install bloatware and make warped systems. Google need to take control back.
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Stingerrray said:
It is so repulsive that Google is getting on the advertising train even with their naming convention. I cant believe they are calling the new OS "KITKAT" instead of "KeyLimePie". Should be "KickbackKingdom" or "KeepKneepads".
Disgusting to me,
Stingerrray
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Who cares!!! They could name the damn thing ANDROID BIN LADEN 4.4 if they want to, I'll still download it, and I'll still love it.

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