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[Q] Sony Smartwatch & Nexus 4

I'll probably be getting a Sony Smartwatch, it has some cool features and should save us some time. But I still don't know, haven't decided. I have some questions that once answered should clear up my mind a little bit though.
1. What's about the Smartwatch's compatibility with N4/JB 4.2? None of the Sony's smartphone has ever tasted official 4.2 and that somehow makes me worry.
2. Will the N4's battery drain quickly because of bluetooth on and connecting to the watch? I know the N4 hasn't got the best battery out there and if using it with the Smartwatch is gonna suck all the juice in several hours then the convenience's not worth the trouble of recharging multiple times a day.
I would really appreciate any help
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Lexus fan said:
I'll probably be getting a Sony Smartwatch, it has some cool features and should save us some time. But I still don't know, haven't decided. I have some questions that once answered should clear up my mind a little bit though.
1. What's about the Smartwatch's compatibility with N4/JB 4.2? None of the Sony's smartphone has ever tasted official 4.2 and that somehow makes me worry.
2. Will the N4's battery drain quickly because of bluetooth on and connecting to the watch? I know the N4 hasn't got the best battery out there and if using it with the Smartwatch is gonna suck all the juice in several hours then the convenience's not worth the trouble of recharging multiple times a day.
I would really appreciate any help
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I would like to know the answer for that questions too. I want to buy the Sony SmartWatch in substitution of my iPod Nano 6g + LunaTik.

Lexus fan said:
I'll probably be getting a Sony Smartwatch, it has some cool features and should save us some time. But I still don't know, haven't decided. I have some questions that once answered should clear up my mind a little bit though.
1. What's about the Smartwatch's compatibility with N4/JB 4.2? None of the Sony's smartphone has ever tasted official 4.2 and that somehow makes me worry.
2. Will the N4's battery drain quickly because of bluetooth on and connecting to the watch? I know the N4 hasn't got the best battery out there and if using it with the Smartwatch is gonna suck all the juice in several hours then the convenience's not worth the trouble of recharging multiple times a day.
I would really appreciate any help
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This may or may not be any help but I currently have a Galaxy S3 on JB with a smartwatch and had no real issues, sometimes the connection between the devices drops out but not enough to be annoying.
The battery life seems almost unaffected as well, there may well be a slight decrease but not enough to warrant concern. Hope that helps.

I'm buying one today I'll report back
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DowntownJeffBrown said:
I'm buying one today I'll report back
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Nice, in Amazon Germany now cost 17€ (22$ aprox.), I think it's a good prize and I want to take advantage of that offer.
Waiting for that feedback.

I've been curious about this as well. I was just looking at the Sony smartwatches on ebay last night and you can get a pretty good deal there. After reading some reviews, the connection dropping between the watch and device seems to be pretty universal regardless of the phone you use. Could it be a cheap bluetooth adapter in the watch? I would assume that Sony doesn't have much selection of adapters to use considering how small the watch is. It's also worth noting that I was reading about a poor connection between the (proprietary) charging adapter, and that it makes a better connection with the watch removed from the strap. That could become an annoyance for some people. A minor detail, but an annoyance none-the-less.
The Pebble smartwatch looks fairly promising too, so it might be worthwhile to hold off until it's released. Just some food for thought.

Bloodflame said:
I've been curious about this as well. I was just looking at the Sony smartwatches on ebay last night and you can get a pretty good deal there. After reading some reviews, the connection dropping between the watch and device seems to be pretty universal regardless of the phone you use. Could it be a cheap bluetooth adapter in the watch? I would assume that Sony doesn't have much selection of adapters to use considering how small the watch is. It's also worth noting that I was reading about a poor connection between the (proprietary) charging adapter, and that it makes a better connection with the watch removed from the strap. That could become an annoyance for some people. A minor detail, but an annoyance none-the-less.
The Pebble smartwatch looks fairly promising too, so it might be worthwhile to hold off until it's released. Just some food for thought.
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Yea I just couldn't pass the deal I got up. I got it for $75 shipped brand new. The seller got it as a gift from Sony for helping them solve some issues on their phones. He's shipping it today so I'll be sure to report back.
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For those wondering the Sony Smart watch paired with my N4 instantly and works flawlessly. I'm rooted and currently running Paranoid Android and Matr1x kernel.
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DowntownJeffBrown said:
For those wondering the Sony Smart watch paired with my N4 instantly and works flawlessly. I'm rooted and currently running Paranoid Android and Matr1x kernel.
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So does this version keep connection? The original one kept getting discoed and pretty much a waste of mass lol. I have the pebble on order but because I backed the grey one, that color will most likely be last in being produced. I'll probably get it by xmas

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So does this version keep connection? The original one kept getting discoed and pretty much a waste of mass lol. I have the pebble on order but because I backed the grey one, that color will most likely be last in being produced. I'll probably get it by xmas
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It hasnt so far but I'll update u after I use it for a day or so. How often did your disconnect? How could u tell if it did? Mines charging I only played with it for about 20 min
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So I can affirm that after a couple days of nonstop use my Bluetooth connection has stayed strong and not dropped once. Everything seems to work perfect and extremely snappy (instantaneous) and I'm very happy. The only thing I have found is that if u try to change the default stock weather app location its has a connection issue. From what I have read though its due to the most recent firmware update a week or so ago. But that's fixable and I'm sure Sony is well aware of the problem. Overall I'm very happy and would recommend these to anyone looking for this type of product (toy).
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For those wondering the Sony Smart watch paired with my N4 instantly and works flawlessly. I'm rooted and currently running Paranoid Android and Matr1x kernel.
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How did you get it to pair? I've owned the Sony Smartwatch for a while. It worked flawlessly with my Galaxy Note, but it REFUSES to see my Nexus 4. Could you provide detailed pairing instructions, please? The Sony website is useless, as they still have the very old instructions utilizing apps that do not even exist anymore. Thank you ahead of time.

ShinTenken said:
How did you get it to pair? I've owned the Sony Smartwatch for a while. It worked flawlessly with my Galaxy Note, but it REFUSES to see my Nexus 4. Could you provide detailed pairing instructions, please? The Sony website is useless, as they still have the very old instructions utilizing apps that do not even exist anymore. Thank you ahead of time.
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it is queit simply. Turn off your smartwatch. Enable Bluetooth in your N4 and make your self visible. Turn on and hold Power button befor you will see sync icon. Than you should see a new device in N4 like smartwatch. Just pair it and that's all.

Stumbled upon this thread while browsing the forums and I have to say, I haven't even thought of getting a Smartwatch until seeing this thread. After doing 15 minutes of research, I really want to pull the trigger on one on Amazon and get it before my big vacation later this week (thank goodness for Prime). I have a few questions though.
Basically, compatibility. I see there are a few posts in this thread saying it works and everything. Anyone else have any issues? I'm using Paranoid Android and the Franco kernel, anyone have issues while using them?
This is probably a stupid question, but how exactly does it notify you? Does the watch have a vibration option or a ringtone or anything? I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't notify you, because your phone would be ringing so you would hear your phone and look at the watch.
What's the functionality of it in terms of text messages? Does it just say you have a text message and who it's from, or does it show part of the message or the whole thing? I assume it doesn't let you text back on the watch, simply because a keyboard on that small of a screen seems very hard to implement.
Oh, one last thing. How is the Sony Smartwatch vs any other smartwatch? Is the Sony one the way to go, or are there better ones that people have found?
Any other info or observations anyone else has, I would be more than happy to read them. I am seriously considering buying it right now.

Confused on choice sony smartwatch.. motoactv.. i'm watch?

Hi everyone
I am considering a smart watch for multiple reasons but mainly so i know when somebody calls me at work.. must say though I LOVE customizations like everyone else on XDA
I have researched up on the following three watches
sony smartwatch
motorola motoactv
i'm watch
all three of these watches are nice and have their ups and downs.
i loved the motoactv because of its customizations however after reading up on the size of the actual thing i was a little more sceptical about it!
my wrist is not the biggest at about 47mm.. the motoactv is 46mm and quite bulky from the images and wanted to know what people think about its size. the i'm watch is a little bigger than the motoactv and bulkier however it is curved.. what do you guys think of that? the sony smartwatch would seem to be the best option thanks to its slick design and size however its functionality makes it more of a half smartwatch.
what do you guys think would suite my needs and wrist size? what are your opinions on the watches and what do you have and why did you pick it?
Just to say the pebble watch does not interest me because it lacks rich functionality.. i use whatsapp.. phone.. sms.. calendar.. music as my core apps and i would expect most of these on the watch (understand if whatsapp is not useable as long as there is notification)

Motoactv is my choice.
Yeah, it's kind of big, and my wrist is tiny, like girls wrist tiny. I personally don't give a crap about the looks, and it never feels in the way or like it's weighing me down, in fact I forget I'm wearing it sometimes.
The very few people that actually do make a comment or a little joke about the size have always eaten their words when I either show them or tell them what it does. And I work at a building supply store, so if anyone would think it was dorky it would be them. Yet they still always leave blown away, or asking where to get one.
I mean sure, sometimes I wished it was curved slightly to fit my wrist a little better, but out of all the smart watches out there currently this one is definitely the most capable.

Yeah I get where you're coming from.. functionality wise you don't have to take your phone out of your pocket! The only reason I am considering the sony smartwatch is because it is a size my wrist can cope with.. is there something out there like the motoactv but more ergonomic and a tad smaller or landscape?
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aadil7 said:
Yeah I get where you're coming from.. functionality wise you don't have to take your phone out of your pocket! The only reason I am considering the sony smartwatch is because it is a size my wrist can cope with.. is there something out there like the motoactv but more ergonomic and a tad smaller or landscape?
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Nope, at least not one as functional. All the smaller ones don't do anything by themselves but tell time. Out of the 4 you can get that run full fledged Android and as such can perform as independent Android devices, the Motoactv beats them all for me.
The other three being:
WIMM One - developmentally dead, uglier than the motoctv, lower res screen, and was never able to be modified to use as a full android device. Good CPU and RAM though, and always-on screen is nice
I'm Watch - Looks nice but lacks wifi, slow CPU and little RAM, no hardware buttons and Android 1.6 limit app compatibility
Z1 Smartwatch - A fully functioning watch Smart phone with cell radio, but MASSIVE, way bigger than the Motoactv, also very slow CPU and little RAM

Hmm I see thanks for that.. being able to use android on your wrist is an amazin pheat however I am still contemplating my uses for the device.. its a real shame I cannot see these in person.. that would greatly help!
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I honestly dont think this market has been struck with THE device of all devices just yet.. in the neptune pine I see the future
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aadil7 said:
Hmm I see thanks for that.. being able to use android on your wrist is an amazin pheat however I am still contemplating my uses for the device.. its a real shame I cannot see these in person.. that would greatly help!
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What I like about it, customization. I can change SO many things on my Motoactv to make it mine. I mean, a plethora of clock widgets, wallpapers (static or live), custom lock screen with apps like widget locker, calender widgets (DAMN handy on a watch), and apps. Oh man apps. I've installed a notepad with widget support, awesome for reminders or other things. Also a calculator (reminds me of the old casio watches), Poweramp for an amazing music player with custom equalizer, Gameboy emulator for simple RPG games, MXPlayer for videos...I can make my watch essentially what I want it to be, thanks to the nature of Android.
I've got videos of it on Youtube if you're interested. Just search my username, it's the same as on here.

My smartwatch comparison
Feel free to check out all the stats there. MotoACTV for my vote of course.

imho... at $18 with free shipping on ebay, the sony liveview mn800 (NOT THE SMARTWATCH)
is badass! it's tiny, sips power, can run all day, runs standard CHIBIOS RTOS on oled screen.
There's a custom firmware/rom functioning and under active development; an OPEN source app manager for the phone; an official app from Sony still being updated... tons of support and devs. Over 50 plugin apps available at the moment. AND liveview takes standard micro usb power so no proprietary cables and chargers.... use your phone charger if you must.
I agree it's not anywhere near the power of the motoactv (which is my second favorite but good luck finding motoactv below $160ish !almost 10 times as much!) and while it does have a degree of independence and I LOVE that it runs fullblown android... it's wifi/bt only ... so for most things you are still tethered to phone anyway. And it's mini usb... so plan on carrying around an additional adapter or charger.
Liveview is tiny, extensible, and dirt cheap and universal.
imho that's hard to beat!
if motoactv comes down to $80 I'll reassess.
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I want the motoactv... I lust after it.
BUT. It's discontinued. Before sinking close to $200 and then more on the accessories in to something... I'd wonder how many more charge/discharge cycles the battery statistically has? MTBF type stuff.
Is the battery replaceable? Can you get a suitable replacement battery at a reasonable price?
If the screen breaks... can you get replacement screen or digitizer? Is the device easy enough to tear apart and operate on?
Is there an Open motoactv client app for phone? Will moto/google release this to allow extensibility? Will it remain compatible with future android versions/apis? What kind of a power drain will you get maintaining a connection btw phone and motoactv?
But if you have cash to burn - go for it It looks awesome.
Otherwise. $18 on ebay for the liveview lets you wade into the water slowly and if it breaks... **** order two!!! This thing is awesome!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sony-Ericss...er_Cell_Phone_Accessories&hash=item589938963b
I'm in the process of trying to build a solar watchstrap for it with this guy:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Thin-Film-L...675?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a8132e5db
and this guy:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1PCS-DC-DC-...420?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cd02d1204
if this works... battery should run forever!!!
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But the biggest feature for me is that at $18 with free 2 day shipping from NYC... this thing is cheap enough with enough functionality that people will impulse buy it and then want more features... so the DEV community is set to grow exponentially as the price continues to fall.
As we've seen time and again - there are no feats the XDA community is unable to traverse. With an exponentially growing DEV and lay community... this thing is going to continue to become sicker and sicker.
PS if you google liveview, don't be turned off by negative reviews... Imho they are older, by unsophisticated users on older android versions and older firmware and app versions. In my experiences across the evo 4g, evo 3d, and note 2, this watch is solid. The connection and battery issues have largely been obviated by the new firmwares, new phone companion apps, and 3rd party app solutions. I love this little watch. I've bought 4 of them and donated to the local hackerspace until my primary breaks - but it's been several years already and she's still ticking.

I've got both, they're both microusb and both use my regular sgs3 charger.
I like my liveview, just not nearly as much. Can't play music on it or do anything standalone really. Can't even keep time without being tethered.
Hell, I can play angry birds on my actv lol.
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ClearD said:
I've got both, they're both microusb and both use my regular sgs3 charger.
I like my liveview, just not nearly as much. Can't play music on it or do anything standalone really. Can't even keep time without being tethered.
Hell, I can play angry birds on my actv lol.
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New Sony firmware or the open firmware allows to keep time even without connection to phone.
Motoactv is MICRO? same connector as liveview? man, apologies. my search, though cursory, showed mini. Good save. thanks.
I agree Motoactv is awesome; especially if you are will be in wifi areas.
But at $200ish vs. $20ish...
If you don't like it... makes a great gift to a geek when/if you want to upgrade.
Any advice on where to get a cheap motoactv?

EBay, for sure. I've seen them there for under $150, but they're still in high demand after they discontinued them, sadly.
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Damn I never knew someone would rate the tiny sony watch so highly I may have to look into it.. maybe even buy it to try it n see what all the fuss is about!
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so for most things you are still tethered to phone anyway.
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I feel the exact opposite. The connection to the phone feels much more like an extension than a reliance. In fact there was a period i hadn't connected it to my phone for months. This was due to Android 4.2.2 having bluetooth issues on the GNex. I've since downgraded to 4.1.2 to get my text messages and caller ID function back, because it's damn handy at work. Otherwise, everything else runs right on it. For what I use it for mostly I don't need an internet connection most of the time.
willfck4beer said:
I'd wonder how many more charge/discharge cycles the battery statistically has? MTBF type stuff.
Is the battery replaceable? Can you get a suitable replacement battery at a reasonable price?
If the screen breaks... can you get replacement screen or digitizer? Is the device easy enough to tear apart and operate on?
Is there an Open motoactv client app for phone? Will moto/google release this to allow extensibility? Will it remain compatible with future android versions/apis? What kind of a power drain will you get maintaining a connection btw phone and motoactv?
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The battery is replaceable, and available last time I checked. Screen/digitizer will be hard to find. Lots of people have opened this thing up and worked on it. There are tutorials online even. No open client, but people have found ways to communicate with it despite this. It uses Bluetooth 4.0, which is only just now being introduced to Android. The only thing that could stop it in the somewhat near future is companion app compatibility, and that's only if a new Android version breaks it. It wouldn't be hard for motorola to update the app with a simple compatibility update either.
I had my motoactv connected to my phone for 8 hours while I was at work today. It's been on for a total of 12 hours from when I unplugged it this morning, and I have 77% left right now.

Happen to have an extra Moto actv laying around?

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Happen to have an extra Moto actv laying around?
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Nope, I almost want one as a backup...then again by the time this thing is kaput there might be something better out

Oh fxuck sony just opened up dev on smartwatches. Loving them fir the first time since the nineties right now! Smartwatch 1 and 2 just became much more attractive! OP, buy smartwatch2 when it hits $70ish for full touchscreen... buy smartwatch1 mn800 live view if you can only afford $20ish ... but no multi touchscreen imho. Anyone else know the added features delta betwixt the two smartwatches?

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I'm surprised there isn't more discussion about this device. I can't wait to get my hands on mine.
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I'm surprised there isn't more discussion about this device. I can't wait to get my hands on mine.
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Once the campaign is over, discussion stops until device is available Keep in mind, after Kreyos you had HOT watch and Omate, and new Sony SW2, Samsung Gear, etc. Too much in the news which takes attention away, and people forget about Agent and Kreyos...

Here is something Kreyos mentioned that has me a little worried:
"only one 3rd party watch app can be downloaded to the watch at one time. Whereas we have default Kreyos watch apps already built into the Meteor itself. We can hold 20 watch faces."
Not sure how many 3rd party apps there will be, but still, one seems like a big limitation.

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Here is something Kreyos mentioned that has me a little worried:
"only one 3rd party watch app can be downloaded to the watch at one time. Whereas we have default Kreyos watch apps already built into the Meteor itself. We can hold 20 watch faces."
Not sure how many 3rd party apps there will be, but still, one seems like a big limitation.
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If it's a memory limitation, hopefully they will have a way to off-load some native apps to allow more 3rd party ones. It is kind of alarming because it would be a disaster to rely purely on native apps. If I learned anything from my use of MetaWatch, if it wouldn't be for Noah/Community edition and other custom user stuff, I would probably give up on using it with "native only" support which is at a very slow pace.
Btw, I still haven't seen any indication if they are on track with shipping schedule. I know they are talking about survey letters being send out and making a really big deal out of it, and taking attention away from the main concern of shipment date.

Wearing a pebble right now... Also a backer for kreyos. Can't wait to get it
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My main concern with the Kreyos is thickness. If I don't like it once it comes, I think I'll go for the agent watch just because it most looks like a normal watch. Unless something better comes along.
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My main concern with the Kreyos is thickness. If I don't like it once it comes, I think I'll go for the agent watch just because it most looks like a normal watch. Unless something better comes along.
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That is something I am worried about also. The pebble is pretty damn perfect in size... May change out the watchband but the kreyos just looks bulkier from teh pictures... Have to wait til november to find out.

Not officially posted, but here is their latest video:
http://vimeo.com/76443374
You can see the reduced logo compared to their previous prototype.

My fingers hurt watching that.. hopefully they're not but it looks like those really squishy buttons that take mad force to get a reaction... it's probably just the way the person is pressing them, making dramatic button presses =P

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My fingers hurt watching that.. hopefully they're not but it looks like those really squishy buttons that take mad force to get a reaction... it's probably just the way the person is pressing them, making dramatic button presses =P
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... or just a part of workout for your fingers since its targeted as "activity" watch. Actually, I think that was an awful video. After such a long silence they should have released a video demonstrating it's smartwatch functionality instead of handful of awful looking watchfaces and a general functionality as a smart-stopwatch. I'm not knocking Kreyos down, those guys are the real deal and ran a good crowdfunding campaign. But looking at it now after seeing what Omate and SW2 can do - it looks so bulky and limited, based on that video alone, not general description of functionality. They should have produced a better video.

They posted an update saying the buttons have been fixed since that prototype (they were testing the waterproofing) and claim that engineer's wrist/arm is unusually small. I still think its going to be bulky, but its the same thickness as the Omate. They also admitted the video sucked.
I think they are unfortunately giving in to the impatient people on their page and shot a real quick video. I hope they don't continue to 'give in' to comments on their page and do a rush job.
Hi all backers,
We received many comments and email regarding the video, so here are some FAQs regarding the video:
1) Buttons issue
This is one of early prototypes, the buttons are very tight because we are testing the waterproof solutions for the watch. We have since fixed the issue.
2) Why is the screen not clear/sharp?
If you look closely, the camera's focus isn't on the screen, therefore it might look "blur-ish" or unclear. The Kreyos Meteor uses Sharp's Memory LCD, which is one of the best LCDs that's available in the market. Pebble, Agent and Nike's GPS watch are all also using the same LCD. We will do a better job when filming the next video.
3) Size
Jason, our engineer in the video has a very small wrist. If it is worn on someone with a regular wrist size, it won't look as bulky. Another reason might be because the video is done up close to the Meteor.
4) Final Product?
NO, this is NOT the final product, we just wanted to show our backers a quick demo video of a working prototype. More videos will follow once its ready.
5) Voice, Gesture, Apps
We are working on finalizing the last few UIs and also the Kreyos App, once that's done we will post new pictures and video updates.
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Even though the Meteor is assembled in China, Kreyos Meteor is built using the best components (80% imported lead components). We are very focused on building a great quality product and we are very confident that our backers will feel the same when they received the Kreyos Meteor.
We cherish all feedback and comments from all backers, but please do not include rude comments with it. Kreyos is a new startup with grand visions, your pledge gives us the opportunity in building the Meteor, rest assured it will not be taken for granted.
If you have further questions, please do not hesitate to email us at [email protected]. Once again we like to thank all backers for your support and patience.
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HTC One M8 and the Moto 360

I recently bought the Moto 360 and couldn't be happier. These two look like they belong together. So far everything is syncing and working together smoothly. The only gripe would be that you can't voice reply to a text message using the stock messenger app, although this seems to be an issue with most if not all stock messaging apps. It doesn't bother me enough to switch to Google Hangouts.
Just thought I'd share my thoughts. Anyone else using the Moto 360 with the HTC One M8?

I also have M8 and I bought the moto 360.. waiting for the shipment to arrive...cant wait..im so excited to use it with the beloved M8 ???

tafo said:
I also have M8 and I bought the moto 360.. waiting for the shipment to arrive...cant wait..im so excited to use it with the beloved M8 ???
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Did you get your watch yet?

The watch andthe phone speak over Bluetooth, right?
Does having the phone paired with a watch affect its ability to pair with other bluetooth devices? IE could I have my phone and watch paired and still have my phone pair with my car at the same time?
(Trying to talk myself into / out of buying a 360 right now.... haha)

Im using an lg g watch with my m8,with arhd i see shorter battery life

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Did you get your watch yet?
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no still ???..

thebobmannh said:
The watch andthe phone speak over Bluetooth, right?
Does having the phone paired with a watch affect its ability to pair with other bluetooth devices? IE could I have my phone and watch paired and still have my phone pair with my car at the same time?
(Trying to talk myself into / out of buying a 360 right now.... haha)
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I have mine paired to my car as well as a few different headsets when I'm out of the car. Even when i use the watch as a remote to change tracks it doesn't make the phone skip a beat. This is probably due to the phone and not the watch though, as my OG Evo and EVO LTE was never able to be connected to something constantly streaming data as well as something that isn't, i.e. my car and an obd2 adapter.

The only time in my life I wore a watch was in the military but the look of the 360 makes me want one because I'm a gadget junkie. I love that Moto went round where all the others are square. How thick is it. It's hard to tell in the photos. Is it worth it and what can it do? Do you find yourself going to it before you go to the phone? Can it do GPS? I'd hate to shell out the bucks and then never use it.

The only gripe would be that you can't voice reply to a text message using the stock messenger app, although this seems to be an issue with most if not all stock messaging apps. It doesn't bother me enough to switch to Google Hangouts.
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Wow, that is quite a deal breaker to be honest.
If I understand you correctly, replying via voice doesn't work? Does sending a text via "ok google" work with the stock HTC Sense messaging app?

Maedhros said:
Wow, that is quite a deal breaker to be honest.
If I understand you correctly, replying via voice doesn't work? Does sending a text via "ok google" work with the stock HTC Sense messaging app?
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No it doesn't, you have to be using Hangouts for SMS to compose and reply to SMS on the watch.

theandies said:
The only time in my life I wore a watch was in the military but the look of the 360 makes me want one because I'm a gadget junkie. I love that Moto went round where all the others are square. How thick is it. It's hard to tell in the photos. Is it worth it and what can it do? Do you find yourself going to it before you go to the phone? Can it do GPS? I'd hate to shell out the bucks and then never use it.
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I imagine thickness is going to be relative to who's wearing it. They have them at Best Buy for you to play around with, just go to their website to see if they're in stock at your local one.

theandies said:
The only time in my life I wore a watch was in the military but the look of the 360 makes me want one because I'm a gadget junkie. I love that Moto went round where all the others are square. How thick is it. It's hard to tell in the photos. Is it worth it and what can it do? Do you find yourself going to it before you go to the phone? Can it do GPS? I'd hate to shell out the bucks and then never use it.
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It's been a long time since I wore a watch as well, but this one brought me back for the same reason. It doesn't seem that thick to me, no thicker than other watches I've owned (typical designer waterproof steel ones). The back kind of sinks into my arm which takes a bit of the width down, maybe it's subjective, I dunno. I tried to test one at the store but they wouldn't open any unless I bought one so I took the gamble.
I do find myself going to it first, but there's only so many things I can go to it for. It's really just a notification display at present - so it tells me when I get texts, email, calendar events (actually it kept me on time this morning because the notification on the watch counts down the last 60min helps you estimate how much time you have to get there). It's been cool in the morning to see weather info from Google Now, but the card goes away during the day for me at least, so to see the weather I have to ask it to show me. But I still prefer that than having to bring out my phone for sure. If you use something like Wear MiniLauncher you can also check on how your phone's battery is doing and toggle wifi or volume. But for any text entry I still much prefer using my phone. I guess what I'm saying is that I have no expectation or desire to do any real work on a watch, so I go to it first for quick updates which it's been great for.
Gps, well it doesn't really do much by it's self from my experience and understanding. It needs a connection to a phone to do anything, and when I navigated to a restaurant today on the watch I noticed that my phone was doing the navigating and just feeding the directions to the watch. And the voice was from the phone of course. It was a cool way to navigate, the vibration and having the screen right there was useful IMO.

Xerro-Five said:
It's been a long time since I wore a watch as well, but this one brought me back for the same reason. It doesn't seem that thick to me, no thicker than other watches I've owned (typical designer waterproof steel ones). The back kind of sinks into my arm which takes a bit of the width down, maybe it's subjective, I dunno. I tried to test one at the store but they wouldn't open any unless I bought one so I took the gamble.
I do find myself going to it first, but there's only so many things I can go to it for. It's really just a notification display at present - so it tells me when I get texts, email, calendar events (actually it kept me on time this morning because the notification on the watch counts down the last 60min helps you estimate how much time you have to get there). It's been cool in the morning to see weather info from Google Now, but the card goes away during the day for me at least, so to see the weather I have to ask it to show me. But I still prefer that than having to bring out my phone for sure. If you use something like Wear MiniLauncher you can also check on how your phone's battery is doing and toggle wifi or volume. But for any text entry I still much prefer using my phone. I guess what I'm saying is that I have no expectation or desire to do any real work on a watch, so I go to it first for quick updates which it's been great for.
Gps, well it doesn't really do much by it's self from my experience and understanding. It needs a connection to a phone to do anything, and when I navigated to a restaurant today on the watch I noticed that my phone was doing the navigating and just feeding the directions to the watch. And the voice was from the phone of course. It was a cool way to navigate, the vibration and having the screen right there was useful IMO.
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Similar experience here. You nailed it over one point, I don't understand people who are expecting a smartwatch to do everything their phone does. If it did, it's rendering that £500+ device in your pocket useless! Google Wear seems to have the right idea in keeping it pretty much as a notification repeater with more basic interactions.
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No it doesn't, you have to be using Hangouts for SMS to compose and reply to SMS on the watch.
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You can definitely reply through sms, I've done this a lot. I see I received a text, I read it, I say Ok Google text ___(person who just texted me), and I say what I want to text and it auto sends when I stop talking. All in all it works very well, and maybe more useful that having a reply button on the message card IMO.
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Maedhros said:
Wow, that is quite a deal breaker to be honest.
If I understand you correctly, replying via voice doesn't work? Does sending a text via "ok google" work with the stock HTC Sense messaging app?
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Not sure I am understanding everyone correctly. I have the watch and the M8. I have used both Go SMS and Chomp SMS. When I receive a text, I tap on the text, swipe to the left (I think that way) and it says reply, I tap on that and voice reply to the message. And that's all there is to it, it responds directly to the text.
When responding directly to a text, it's extremely simple.

My 360 and M8 do go really well indeed.

My moto 360 is finally here??? its doing very well with M8 ( DESPITE of fast battert draining of both) ..i think the bluetooth connection is the biggest battery bleed of both devices!(in addition to facer) because when i did airplane mode on the watch.... Battery life is way better! ( moto then is useless then lol) I hope it can be solved in the forthcoming updates
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Moto 360 version 4.4w.2
Apps: dialer, mini launcher, calculator, facer( yea its the main battery drainer), find my fone, ring remote
Htc M8: htc__622 (HK) stock rooted 4.4.3

I was really thinking about getting Moto 360 about a month back, then LG G Watch R came out but don't really like it as it is a bit chunky. I'm waiting for ASUS Zenwatch to get released in UK as that's what I'm going to get.
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My moto 360 is finally here??? its doing very well with M8 ( DESPITE of fast battert draining of both) ..i think the bluetooth connection is the biggest battery bleed of both devices!(in addition to facer) because when i did airplane mode on the watch.... Battery life is way better! ( moto then is useless then lol) I hope it can be solved in the forthcoming updates
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Moto 360 version 4.4w.2
Apps: dialer, mini launcher, calculator, facer( yea its the main battery drainer), find my fone, ring remote
Htc M8: htc__622 (HK) stock rooted 4.4.3
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Shouldn't drain a lot of battery as both use Bluetooth 4

Yea thats what i know?! Ill do tests to see if its acually true or not... Also i noticed that changing alot watch faces by facer drains batter but if used it once for whole day its acceptable

I am not finding facer bring a big battery problem.

[Q] Sony Smartwatch 3 or Moto 360 - small wrists

I am trying to choose the right smartwatch for me and I am sort of losing my mind. I really can't decide which one to get. So I have finally narrowed my decision down to two. Sony Smartwatch 3 and Moto 360. I like Sony when it comes to mobile hardware - I currently have a Z3 Compact and it would seem only logical to pair it with a smartwatch from Sony. But... I like Motorola as well. Never had any problems with them before.
Both have their pros and the cons. Moto 360 basically looks way better. It also has a heart rate monitor which I like but it isn't a must. On the other hand Smartwatch 3 has a much smoother interface, better battery, is cheaper and has micro USB for charging.
My main problem is this - I am a pretty small guy and I have small wrists as well. So a big watch would just look ridiculous on me. My wrists are about 46mm in diameter at the widest point where the watch would sit. So that's a big issue and the determining factor will be the size. I know that the Smartwatch 3 is slightly larger in one dimension, but it is designed much differently and is thiner. But it is pretty new and I haven't seen much comments about its size.
Anyone with similar issues? What would you suggest?

I own Sony smart watch 3 for the following reasons:
1. All round watches will have troubles with ui in one app or another, they just awkward to code for
2. Sony one is waterproof, has GPS, transflective LCD, great battery life and better chipset (moto uses prehistoric chipset same as in their motoactv from 2011)
3. I have medium sized wrist it fits perfectly, you could try one and return if it doesn't fit.
Overall I would not bother with any round watches unless to show off and from current wear offerings I feel like sw3 is the best and if you'll use GPS it is the only one.

I personally am a Moto 360 person myself. I have fairly skinny wrists and haven't noticed an aesthetic or comfort issue wearing it. In terms of app support: it is indeed harder for coders to deal with round screens but it seems like most have figured them out. The marker for round watches just seems large at this point which forces most to support them if at all feasible.
I also do not trust Sony when it comes to Android based devices. They always seem to release products in that space that flop and thereby do not get as much updates/support compared to peer manufacturers.
Good luck in your decision!

I get a SW3 today. I've also a small wrist and it fits very well.
Why I choose SW3 not Moto 360? A round watch is pretty cool, but I cannot tolerate its black bar below, it makes me crazy...
And also consider the battery, SW3 finally becomes my first android wear.

Same here, wanted a moto 360. But after looking at everything I bought SW3 yesterday. Never had android wear before or actually worn a watch. But SW3 for £130 was an easy decision. It should arrive on Thursday.
I am 2 meter tall guy so size ssd never a concern to me. Only thing I didn't like about SW3 was that weird watch band. A standart 22mm watch bands would be much better. But I will see how it feels when it arrives. Can't wait! [emoji2]

Well I have finally decided and bought a Moto 360. It has arrived yesterday so I've had about a day of "play time" with it. A bit mixed feelings for now. But not really a HW problem. Android Wear seems very much like a huge beta for now.
First my thoughts on hardware - I love the design. It really is a beautiful watch. And just a tad too large for my wrists. Smaller would be better but size isn't too big of an issue on the current model. It could be a bit thiner though. I don't particularly like the leather strap to be honest. The leather feels a bit too stiff for my liking. I've seen much softer leather bands on watches before. I would probably prefer one of those. Or maybe textile. But maybe it will soften up a bit with time.
Battery doesn't seem like a particularly big issue. I am at 55% right now (I started using it in the morning and it is 9 in the evening now) and I have been playing with it a lot today. Installing apps, using things, ... So it seems like it will last me a day just fine.
Pedometer seems useless. I can't check how accurate it is because it doesn't update in real time - the ****? Who thought that this was a good idea? If I make a step I want to see it change immediately. Not two hours later. Heart rate sensor isn't much better either.
And now for android wear... What was google thinking? What's the point of having the ability to read an email or to reply to it but no ability to delete that thing? I delete 80% of my emails after I read them. Why can't I do that on my wrist? What about a keyboard? We know it isn't impossible. So why isn't it there? Something similar to a standard numeric keypad that we can see on old mobile phones would work (T9 anyone?). Or a full fledged keyboard in some other form. Not because I don't want to talk but because voice input is useless for anything but English. And we will be seeing support for Slovene in ... let's be honest ... never. So I can't send a message to anyone, I can't send an email to anyone, start a navigation to somewhere, ... KEYBOARD!
Why do "apps" like Yatse remote hide/close when the watch goes to sleep? This makes it pretty much useless then.

Deleting emails is just swipe left, delete.. I do it all the time as 90% of what I get is spam anyway.
IME the watches work best as notification devices.. they're great for telling you that an email or tweet has arrived, or that you have to leave to get to an appointment, without having to fish in your pocket to work out whether it's an important message or not. During meetings a quick glance at the watch is pretty unobtrusive.
They're too small though to be general purpose devices, and they're not designed to be (hence no real launcher.. 'apps' is buried at the bottom of a menu). Once you get into serious amounts of interaction you're better off just taking the phone out and using that.

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Deleting emails is just swipe left, delete.. I do it all the time as 90% of what I get is spam anyway.
IME the watches work best as notification devices.. they're great for telling you that an email or tweet has arrived, or that you have to leave to get to an appointment, without having to fish in your pocket to work out whether it's an important message or not. During meetings a quick glance at the watch is pretty unobtrusive.
They're too small though to be general purpose devices, and they're not designed to be (hence no real launcher.. 'apps' is buried at the bottom of a menu). Once you get into serious amounts of interaction you're better off just taking the phone out and using that.
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The funny thing here is this - I've found it performs the worst as a notification device. It performs great when I need a timer or when I need to quickly check one of my notes.
Notifications are just... meh. I want f*** email notifications. And no I don't have a delete option when I swipe left. I have reply, mark as read and open on phone. No delete. What is even worse - the thing doesn't vibrate when I get an email. Probably it has something to do with the email client I am using - the stock (AOSP) android one. Not gmail or something else. How am I supposed to have faith in a platform when even the thing that is most advertised doesn't work with the built in app?
The first thing I installed on there was an app launcher. I also found a neat app that enables you to send text messages with an actual keyboard. So at least there is that.

I have a "swipe left" to delete also. It depends what you use for your email. I use "Blue Mail"

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I have a "swipe left" to delete also. It depends what you use for your email. I use "Blue Mail"
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Probably.
I am not happy with the fact that something so basic as deleting emails and vibrating when that email arrives is not supported with the app made by Google. On their own platform.
I was also hoping that Lolipop update would bring us some improvements in that regard - the watch got an update today and it didn't improve any of my issues.

i don't know which one is more suitable for you .
but people are often talking about moto 360 ,
sony watch i havent heard it many time .
so i guess this maybe be able to help you decide .