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HTC Desire HD vs Nexus S

Hello, guys, it seems that Nexus S is finally announced but it has almost the same tech specs, that Samsung Galaxy S had and probably completely the same design.
The problem is that my Samsung Captivate is broken and I am coming to UK in 1 week just for 3 days and Nexus S will not be in stores at that moment. I am not sure wheather to buy DHD in England for a lower price than in Moscow or to wait 1 week more and to buy Nexus S.
What would you advise? Is DHD a GOOD phone? Shouldn't I wait for that Samsung' made phone?
BTW my Captivate was broken because of that Super Amoled screen, I even don't know why (and can't replace it).... Just advise me something
And could you please name some retail stores in which I can buy DHD in London? Not using online stores

The DHD has far better specs than the SGS. Until someone tests the new Nexus S against the SGS & DHD no-one is the wiser.
Hopefully Samsung fixed all the issues with the SGS when making the Nexus S, otherwise you've just got baking hot Android on a really poor handset.

Nexus S is only pre order it won't be in stored anytime this year.
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Aamir.Badat said:
Nexus S is only pre order it won't be in stored anytime this year.
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Yes it will, december 16th for UK and 20th for US. Other countries I don't know.

Before the Nexus S was announced I was excited and thought I will be buying it as my next device.
Now that its been announced i am dissapointed to say the least. All it is is a samsung galaxy s with a NFC chip and gyro sensor. I also just found out that it doesn't come with a sd card slot which is unacceptable . The only good thing about the samsung is the S Amoled screen. The build quality on the samsung is poor and cheap.
The desire HD wins hands down for me, with its beautiful design and gorgeous big screen .
Hope this helps .

Aamir.Badat said:
Nexus S is only pre order it won't be in stored anytime this year.
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Nexus S is available on the 16th of December.
however dhd is a spec wise better phone ie more ram 2nd gen snapdragon ect...
however the nexus S is a developer phone you get updates and support from google and its designed to be a reference hence the todays average specs nfc chips front camera ect....
personally id just by the dhd and use a 2.3 stock rom that will no doubt be released soon
as for waiting for dual core android phones ...well if the nexus S is the new reference phone for devs then chances are that our dhd's will be viable till the next dev reference after the nexus S

ethe DHD has higher specs, 720p video recording against 480p, 8MP cam against 5MP, 768RAM against 512, dual flash against one, 4.3 inch screen against 4, metal unibody construction against light plastic, real pixel density against virtual
the nexus S pluses feature better screen coating, much better view angles and deeper blacks but pentile matrix virtual density, frontal cam, NFC & gyro, better battery, less cell radiation and ofcourse enjoyable official OS support
both feature similar processors at 45nm 1GHZ, the DHD processor is optimised can be easily OCed to 1.5, both have great GPUs, the S gpu stronger in theory
the nexus S feels refined and subtle, the DHD is a badass big daddy
looking at the nexus S its clear the DHD is already HTC's answer, I expect them to announce 2.3 soon

hamdir said:
the nexus S feels refined and subtle, the DHD is a badass big daddy
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Sorry couldn't help...Loved this quote. Seems like DHD is answer to all the phones featuring a Single core processor running android.
Just love the phone.

hamdir said:
ethe DHD has higher specs, 720p video recording against 480p, 8MP cam against 5MP, 768RAM against 512, dual flash against one, 4.3 inch screen against 4, metal unibody construction against light plastic, real pixel density against virtual
the nexus S pluses feature better screen coating, much better view angles and deeper blacks but pentile matrix virtual density, frontal cam, NFC & gyro, better battery, less cell radiation and ofcourse enjoyable official OS support
both feature similar processors at 45nm 1GHZ, the DHD processor is optimised can be easily OCed to 1.5, both have great GPUs, the S gpu stronger in theory
the nexus S feels refined and subtle, the DHD is a badass big daddy
looking at the nexus S its clear the DHD is already HTC's answer, I expect them to announce 2.3 soon
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seconded.
Just my 2 cents tho - in theory the SAMOLED and the coating give the Nexus S an advantage ( the blacks, the viewing angles, the power drain ). What they don't tell you is that in practice:
how much "blacker" can it get? trust me u got enough black on DHD to racially abuse it
The viewing angles on DHD are already ~160. I don't know how u hold ur phone but even 130 would be pretty much enough for me
And the less power consumption only counts if "black pixels" prevail in what u got on the display. Read : if u browse/read a book/have a light wallpaper it eats the battery for brunch (consumption is almost twice as high as SLCD)

They're really two completely different phones for different kinds of people. I will have both phones in the house so it's no biggie. But the nexus s gpu is superior and the phone has the benefit of full google support. As an android enthusiast I rate that support highly.

jivemaster said:
They're really two completely different phones for different kinds of people. I will have both phones in the house so it's no biggie. But the nexus s gpu is superior and the phone has the benefit of full google support. As an android enthusiast I rate that support highly.
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Yes but the DHD has Cyanogen !!!!!!!

jivemaster said:
They're really two completely different phones for different kinds of people. I will have both phones in the house so it's no biggie. But the nexus s gpu is superior and the phone has the benefit of full google support. As an android enthusiast I rate that support highly.
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yes me too my wife wanted the desire Z badly but now im convincing her with the Nexus S, the design plus weight is a little female
however i still feel the DHD is better, regarding the GPU we are yet to see a game that performs better on the galaxy S, lots of the sexy stuff in gingerbread we already have in the new sense if not better like copy paste functionality, i also found this interesting the nexus S got rid of the touchpad and has the speaker output at the bottom just like the DHD
as for super amoled, i had a desire amoled and it pissed the hell out of my eyes, i'm a graphics artist and the pentile grid just drove me mad, that was on a smaller 3.7 inch screen, i'm sure at 4.0 the situation is even worse
i wear glasses, sometimes the amoled screen looked so high res and sometimes it looked low, 1 pixels outlines looked doted, its just a silly solution and compared to retina it fails bad in pixel density
if the DHD had the sexy SLCD like the classic desire/Z it would have won hands down in my eyes

bahkata said:
seconded [...]
And one last thing - if the plastic feels as cheap as the galaxy s - f*ck it. People aren't paying 600 euros for the feel of holding their mom's €4.50 dildo.
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This is a hell of a badass statement! I will use it, if you allow me to.
And the point you make about the black/white backgrounds and S AMOLED screen is true. You just forgot to say, to the S Amoled advantage, that it has better contrasts too.
f.

we can't simply fool ourselves and deny the advantages of amoled like the infinite contrast, extreme angles and in case of super amoled the sunlight visibility
however equally reviewers can't just go and shout super amoled wooohoooo, both amoled and super have the active matrix grid, which give it much less pixel accuracy then the stated specs, ie its not 235ppi like they state
just put any amoled device next to slcd device or iphone 4 or even the DHD and you will see what i mean, the definition on amoled is fuzzier
also samoled had extreme colours saturation which isn't accurate but we don't know if this is the case with the nexus S
IPS LCDs or super LCDs are the best solution if you ask me

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true, but to be honest it would be nice to get updates officially without rooting and about a week after release of said updates.
But I do think the desire hd is the better phone more ram comparable cpu/gpu, but nothing comes close to unibody build quality
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Maybe the nexus s will get cyanogenmod too. Cyanogen does not officially support any Samsung at this stage, but that may change since the s is a dev phone.
Personally I don't give a flying **** for the samsung. Spec wise there is not much difference but the chitty plastic shell and lack of an sd slot make the nexus s a fail in my book.
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i'm feeling a little betrayal from google, after all it was the hero and htc's efforts that made android so popular
really interested to know the details of this google nexus deal

i think you will find its not something major for example the dev android tablet is a motrola one which was demoed the other day, i think you will find android is spreading its dev devices over the differnt manufacturers and not favoriting manufacturers.
i guess it kinda highlets their openness ?

yes i agree they can't favor a manufacturer

Samsung is a more widely known manufacturer. Its only recently that HTC started selling devices under the HTC brand name. Most would end up as a carrier branded handset.

Galaxy S2, The Destroyer?

So the GS2 has been getting fantastic reviews and the specs are just monstorous! It pretty much kills anything on the market right now, how do you feel about this? Will the Arc be outdated quicky? These phones move WAY to fast for me...its not even funny...you buy a phone and theres already one that makes you feel inferior...

solidkevin said:
So the GS2 has been getting fantastic reviews and the specs are just monstorous! It pretty much kills anything on the market right now, how do you feel about this? Will the Arc be outdated quicky? These phones move WAY to fast for me...its not even funny...you buy a phone and theres already one that makes you feel inferior...
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While I think the GS2 has better technical specs than the SE, I think the overall design of the Arc is much more unique than that of the GS2. I also find that the Sammys tend to be more plasticy (if that is a word). Additionally, I don't think apps (and the OS) have been optimized for the dual core processor in the GS2.
What the GS2 has going for it, is a front facing camera (which should have in the Arc too) and an unlocked bootloader! Those two might tempt me to pick up a GS2 to play around with.

You should have waited for S2 instead of buying Arc What specifications S2 was going to have, was published on every mobile site since S2 was announced

I do think always to buy things per my own need not to what is the highest. I did care for design and decent performance. ARC was and is the solution for me. Does S2 devalue my arc? no! This is not a good example but I will try
You are driving an Audi RS4 and then Nissan GTR comes out with a performance car, do I care? no because I love my RS4 very much(BTW I don't have a RS4)

Nimche said:
I do think always to buy things per my own need not to what is the highest. I did care for design and decent performance. ARC was and is the solution for me. Does S2 devalue my arc? no! This is not a good example but I will try
You are driving an Audi RS4 and then Nissan GTR comes out with a performance car, do I care? no because I love my RS4 very much(BTW I don't have a RS4)
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+1 well said..

SGS II is also ~150 USD more expensive than the Arc.
With the rapid growth of GPU and CPU for mobile, IMHO, spending your every pennies to get the top line of these hardwares every couple months is not worth it. It will get depreciated very quickly. And all the values left would be:
1. design and built quality
2. battery life
3. functionalities
Arc's beautiful design and 8MP camera + exmor r, however, will stay on top of the line for quite a while

(1) The Galaxy S2 is Fugly
(2) "Samsung" and "quality" are two words that wont be used in the same sentence.

I don't think the Arc is in anyway now going to be forgotten about.
I was initially going to wait on the S2, but it was going to cost me about £150 on the plan I'm on, where as the Arc was free. Not really bothered about the dual core CPU as it runs more than fast enough as it is. Front facing camera I don't care about as I'm never going to use it (don't think many iphone users do either as it only works on wifi). The feel and quality of the S2 is way way way below that of the Arc too.
So still well happy with my choice.
Dazza

solidkevin said:
So the GS2 has been getting fantastic reviews and the specs are just monstorous! It pretty much kills anything on the market right now, how do you feel about this? Will the Arc be outdated quicky? These phones move WAY to fast for me...its not even funny...you buy a phone and theres already one that makes you feel inferior...
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I just purchase Arc from Japan knowing it's long been outdated. Even several months old Atrix's has killer specs compared to Arc. I still went for Arc mainly because of it's styling.
I want to wait for GS2 but the styling doesn't appeal to me and not having LED notification kind of killed my desire for it.
With Android handsets, by the time the phone you desire hits the market, there is another killer one coming in a month. It's hard to keep waiting. But, I will move to GS2 if it looks better outside than it is in pictures. But, I doubt Samsung can make anything as attractive as SE phones . Just the SAMSUNG logo kills it for me

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(2) "Samsung" and "quality" are two words that wont be used in the same sentence.
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Could not agree more!!! Well said!

LOL I agree, it has monster specs but it is FUGLY! Arc and IP4 are MUCH better looking..

SGS2 is definately amazing phone specs wise. There's no denying that. I was going to get SGS2, but got Arc instead. I just wanted to get rid of my iPhone.
Arc looks amazing, works very well and is fast. SGS2 is faster and has better screen, but Arc actually does everything I need currently. I think Arc is enough for me the next 2 years. There will always be new stuff coming, but there is no real need to change every 6 months.
SGS2 will probably be the king until SGS3. But it doesn't make my Arc bad. Actually my Arc is excellent

A phone with better specs than the Arc has been released, so what?
It was bound to happen at some point.

What I really don't like about the galaxy phones is how they look and feel like previous versions of the iPhone. Seriously, the tipping point for getting the arc over the other phones is its unique style. Do you trade off specs and performance for style? Not really. But I don't see the need to pay extra when I can get something that I want and that pretty much caters to what I need.
If you want to be future-proof, get the SGS2 - it might be the HTC Desire of dual-cores with its potential long life. Give it a couple months more and a few more dual-core phones will come out. Will you be wanting every new phone with better specs?
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mtechfan said:
(1) The Galaxy S2 is Fugly
(2) "Samsung" and "quality" are two words that wont be used in the same sentence.
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+1 on that

I think you guys are stuck with arc. And couldn't afford sgs2 so why bashing it? And quality on sgs2 is way better than arc. Only thing arc has is camera and Hdmi 2.3 and slim other than that same as x10. I don't see how and why people bought the arc
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I could afford to be choosy when opting for a phone I liked the arc so got the arc you can to through life upgrading everything tvs pcs cars houses phones but there is always something bigger and better round the corner so just enjoy what you have
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well, i was on the fence between both phones but ended up with the arc, its just an awesome phone, super fast, even in the browser, which i was surprised.
the x10 was trash, but now that sony is giving it 2.3 it makes use of all of its hardware. so its actually a pretty good phone now. the arc of course is way better.
dual-core wouldnt really be as future proof as people are making it out to be....unless ofcourse your idea of future proof is about 6ish months long till the next big thing comes out....and didnt nvidia already map out quad-cores? which means the wait for 2.5+ would be needed since 2.4 will take advantage of the dual-cores.
coming from an atrix, the only real noticable difference in speed comes when you open certain apps, and even then...the difference is by about...1, maybe 2 seconds? so until android can utilize dual-cores, a single core phone done right is fantastic.
*personal preference here*i love sony's screen for movies and pics vs Samoled. cant comment on Samoled plus but the over-saturation and fake colours on the galaxy S phones drove me nuts :/
so those are some of my reasons for getting the arc over the Gs2.

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+1 on this.. lol..!!

Doesn't look like double cores have any real advantage right now, something really better for the user. Unless you're counting any second after app launching.
It's definitely the future but I wouldn't pee in my pants because of that right now.
SGSII is probably awesome. However has inferior design, inferior UI (for me of course) plus the fear of quality. And Samsung software doesn't seem polished ever. SGSI had issues AFAIK and just look at their WP7 problems story.

S2 vs galaxy nexsus?

Hey guys I'm with the Htc sensatio right now and I'm thinking of moving over to the s2. I've heard that the screen on the s2 is accually better then the galaxy nexus and it is 8mp vs 5mp. What do?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1352839
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you see, the thing im most worried about is the nexus is a newer phone, but it seems like a downgrade from the s2 other then its screen size and resolution, I'm pretty sure s2's screen is better then the nexus too. But of course the nexus line is pretty reliable, I've owned the original nexus b4. Will the s2 beat the nexus at everything as soon as ics comes to s2?

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Please whatever you do, dont listen to this guy. I played with the galaxy nexus as bell already has it available and it is NOT an upgrade in screen or speed. Everybody seems to be sucking up to this phone for some reason. Its not nearly as smooth as you think just flipping through the homescreens. A live wallpaper like the microbes will slow it down like crazy-ever seen lag from a live wallpaper on the sgs2??(the current excuse is its poorly coded lol). Using the internet is not even close to being as smooth either-you can even see it in almost all review online yet they still say its amazing. Please use it first before you go out and buy one.
No sd slot, camera on front and back not on par with sgs2 by a long shot, the screen is less vibrant and more pixelated, cpu is worse, gpu is worse, phone is too tall to even reach the status bar unless you really stretch (im 6'1 with big enough hands) and battery life is reportedly worse (will improve with custom roms im sure).
The only real advantage the nexus has is updates, which is a strong advantage.
I honestly went out with the intention of buying it but it was a definite downgrade.

I haven't seen the GNS and am wanting to know if its better. I like the post above but this has been covered a million times before. Although its nice that Borat dropped in to start another thread.

blunted09 said:
Please whatever you do, dont listen to this guy. I played with the galaxy nexus as bell already has it available and it is NOT an upgrade in screen or speed. Everybody seems to be sucking up to this phone for some reason. Its not nearly as smooth as you think just flipping through the homescreens. A live wallpaper like the microbes will slow it down like crazy-ever seen lag from a live wallpaper on the sgs2??(the current excuse is its poorly coded lol). Using the internet is not even close to being as smooth either-you can even see it in almost all review online yet they still say its amazing. Please use it first before you go out and buy one.
No sd slot, camera on front and back not on par with sgs2 by a long shot, the screen is less vibrant and more pixelated, cpu is worse, gpu is worse, phone is too tall to even reach the status bar unless you really stretch (im 6'1 with big enough hands) and battery life is reportedly worse (will improve with custom roms im sure).
The only real advantage the nexus has is updates, which is a strong advantage.
I honestly went out with the intention of buying it but it was a definite downgrade.
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You say don't listen to me?. That link was posted as reference to help him see people's view point on both phones. And if you read further people seem to embrace the s2 more than the prime.
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http://www.xda-developers.com/announcements/poll-vote-for-the-best-phone-of-2011/
http://www.phonearena.com/news/PhoneArena-Reader-Awards-2011-The-winners_id24445
how about you check out these two links and then decide ?????? and btw wait for the gs3 if you can.

well if u dont count on nexus's slightly bigger screen and abit more pixel then, S2 is one update away from being better than nexus
and just for the sake of defending S2 8mp camera makes whole alot difference in picture u take
i feel bad about nexus so ill defend it also XD Nexus have zero shutter lag meaning.. when u press "take photo" for S2 it takes 0.5 - 1.5 ( no idea what is exact ) then it takes picture but nexus has zero lag which takes immediately.. so u wont miss the "good" situation/expression or anything else u want to capture

People have compared the S2 to the Nexus.
Nexus has faster browser speed. But these comparisons don't make sense because ICS has not been released with its fixes officially for the S2. And the Nexus benefits from these fixes.

FirstNoobToBrickHisPhone said:
People have compared the S2 to the Nexus.
Nexus has faster browser speed. But these comparisons don't make sense because ICS has not been released with its fixes officially for the S2. And the Nexus benefits from these fixes.
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Forgot to mention that ICS currently doesn't have Flash support, which makes pages lighter to load.

robt772000 said:
I haven't seen the GNS and am wanting to know if its better. I like the post above but this has been covered a million times before. Although its nice that Borat dropped in to start another thread.
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....makes sense

Slow N Stupid said:
well if u dont count on nexus's slightly bigger screen and abit more pixel then, S2 is one update away from being better than nexus
and just for the sake of defending S2 8mp camera makes whole alot difference in picture u take
i feel bad about nexus so ill defend it also XD Nexus have zero shutter lag meaning.. when u press "take photo" for S2 it takes 0.5 - 1.5 ( no idea what is exact ) then it takes picture but nexus has zero lag which takes immediately.. so u wont miss the "good" situation/expression or anything else u want to capture
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As he says, S2 is just one update away, from being better than nexus.
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Ask the question here and you will only get the answers from gs2 owners, meaning only pro gs2 comments.
I'm in the same dilemma but I already have the s2

From Galaxy SI the following specs were upgraded in SII.
+ FULL HD recording
+ Dual Core
+ Super Amoled Plus (improved battery drain)
+ 8 MP camera
+ Much better GPS
From SII following specs downgraded in Nexus
- removed sd card slot
- 5 MP camera
- pentile super amoled (higher battery drain)
- slower GPU
- slower CPU
Other than ICS, Nexus doesn't bring anything extra or better than SII.

pacc said:
From Galaxy SI the following specs were upgraded in SII.
+ FULL HD recording
+ Dual Core
+ Super Amoled Plus (improved battery drain)
+ 8 MP camera
+ Much better GPS
From SII following specs downgraded in Nexus
- removed sd card slot
- 5 MP camera
- pentile super amoled (higher battery drain)
- slower GPU
- slower CPU
Other than ICS, Nexus doesn't bring anything extra or better than SII.
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- better Screen
- Shutter
- much faster Updates
- no Touchwiz
- no Bloatware
- open Platform (TI Omap, there are sources for nearly everything)
- aosp device tree
For every user who loves to customize his phone the Galaxy Nexus is much better than the Galaxy S II.
You'll see real high quality custom roms by time, not only rethemed stuff like on s2.

I was referring to Specs only.
I agree with most points you mentioned, but there is nothing really outstanding in Nexus device, other than the new concept of full screen mobile phones which was now introduced by Galaxy Nexus and Nokia N9.

codeworkx said:
- better Screen
- Shutter
- much faster Updates
- no Touchwiz
- no Bloatware
- open Platform (TI Omap, there are sources for nearly everything)
- aosp device tree
For every user who loves to customize his phone the Galaxy Nexus is much better than the Galaxy S II.
You'll see real high quality custom roms by time, not only rethemed stuff like on s2.
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I get your view point on the nexus being easier to work with as a developer-especially in your case but...
-screen is NOT better, i have spent time with it and it just isnt
-shutter is great if it had a great camera
-faster updates is a given and the main pro
-touchwiz actually improved things like the camera interface, dialer and gpu acc. browser which has yet to be matched in smoothness even by the nexus
-the processor lags, im sorry but it just does
-aosp, again goes with the updates pro
Im just disappointed that they couldnt do better because i really did want it. Roms arent rethemed (though many are). I think the devs deserve some credit their with the work on the S2.
If you ask me, the nexus crown still belongs to the N1

i have a GS2 but could've gone for the GN but with the massive battery drain on the GN i decided to just stick on the GS2 but still in dilemma as i love the bigger and design of the GN..
ICS was the main reason i switched from ip4 to GS2, i have NO regrets switching devices and love the android!
i just don't like the looks of my white GS2 a bit because of how it looks like a clone of a 4-inch iphone and the home button that really looks like the leaked 4 inch iphone's home button too other than that they're all good to me.. if it weren't for that quick battery drain of the GN, i'd go for it..
anyway just my opinion..

codeworkx said:
- better Screen
- Shutter
- much faster Updates
- no Touchwiz
- no Bloatware
- open Platform (TI Omap, there are sources for nearly everything)
- aosp device tree
For every user who loves to customize his phone the Galaxy Nexus is much better than the Galaxy S II.
You'll see real high quality custom roms by time, not only rethemed stuff like on s2.
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Thank you codeworkx. Too many GSII fanboys lol
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Theres no question that when it comes to hardware, the galaxy s 2 is better than the galaxy nexus. the prime's big advantage is ICS. thats the star of the show nobody cares about the damn phone itself. the S2 GPU and CPU are better than the one thats in the prime. Just imagine the S2 coming out today with ICS and the prime with ICS, which one will you buy?

[Q] Should I buy?

I am wondring if I should buy the Xperia arc S now, or should I wait for the next generation in this price range.
What do you think?

Really. THERE LIKE 100 people making the exact threads everyday.
Can't you search for someone asking the same question???

It may be an old threads ...
Yes :-
1-Clear display
2-HDMI
3-Awesome speaker
4-sexy design
5-The Best camera phone. (not better than xperia s)
6-Will recive ICS update officially.
7-good battery life
8-noise cancelling mic
No:-
1- Became Old cause most of new android devices are dual core and quad.
2-Lags alot with ICS .
3-Not good for HD games even when using GB.
4-Overheat from the back when playing games or surfing the web using DATA.
5-when you speak the other side (who listing to you) will hear your voice repeated specially when using the speaker.
6-Less custom roms ( seriously that's why i started making my own roms) than Galaxy or htc users.
*So it depends on you whether you wants high performance device for gaming and fast picture shooting or not .

Don't do it.
It's too old
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I want to break some myths about the Xperia S. The screen is .1 inches bigger but the phone is massively bigger due to the screen bezel and the antenna design and does not feel good in hand. The material feels quite cheap for some reason. The Arc isnt a solid phone but feels more solid and is thinner and lighter. I have been using one form of ICS or another since December with Arc (not S) and its as stable and fast as it ever was with GB. The official ICS ROM will make for even better custom ROMs. The camera is marginally better on the S but is not the best by 2012 standards. I hate the feel of capacitive buttons on the S but I guess ICS on screen buttons would take care of that.
The Arc S is a good phone for its current price but I expect development to slow down in a few more months as more and more developers are upgrading hardware. The One X and the One S is definitely the bar right now. The screens, construction, processors and camera are all the best on the market. I have Sony everything so its hard for me to exit the brand so I'm keeping my Arc for one more year but for others, the One is the upgrade for 2012.
I have played with all of the phones above and Arc overclocked feels the same as S.
One S is better in almost every way vs Xperia S. The feel in hand to the performance. The construction is superb aircraft grade aluminum treated to a very nice finish. The only thing you'll miss is NFC but its still not mainstream with enough practical applications right now (it takes two hands to clap). The super AMOLED is not an issue coming from a lower resolution Arc and is a superb screen despite reviews.
One X is hands down the best phone I have ever played with. There are only two things inferior to the One S and thats battery and finish. Its still gorilla glassed front with ultra high impact-resisting polycarbonate, which is very strong and solid but something about that black aluminum magic is so sexy about the One S.
Either get one of the Ones or Arc S. I cant recommend the Xperia S to anyone.

hellocng said:
The Arc S is a good phone for its current price but I expect development to slow down in a few more months as more and more developers are upgrading hardware. The One X and the One S is definitely the bar right now. The screens, construction, processors and camera are all the best on the market. I have Sony everything so its hard for me to exit the brand so I'm keeping my Arc for one more year but for others, the One is the upgrade for 2012.
I have played with all of the phones above and Arc overclocked feels the same as S.
One S is better in almost every way vs Xperia S. The feel in hand to the performance. The construction is superb aircraft grade aluminum treated to a very nice finish. The only thing you'll miss is NFC but its still not mainstream with enough practical applications right now (it takes two hands to clap). The super AMOLED is not an issue coming from a lower resolution Arc and is a superb screen despite reviews.
One X is hands down the best phone I have ever played with. There are only two things inferior to the One S and thats battery and finish. Its still gorilla glassed front with ultra high impact-resisting polycarbonate, which is very strong and solid but something about that black aluminum magic is so sexy about the One S.
Either get one of the Ones or Arc S. I cant recommend the Xperia S to anyone.
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I didn't want to say get the (htc one x) so the people in this forum doesn't think that i support htc or whatever ... otherwise wait for galaxy s3
I recomend if you still want to buy an arc then get a used one ... so you don't lose too much when you replace it with another phone later .

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No:-
2-Lags alot with ICS .
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I strongly disagree with this point. With the final update, it will be at least as smooth as GB if not faster. The ICS beta is laggy because of the incomplete/unoptimized 2D acceleration implementation.

hemo1001 said:
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1- Became Old cause most of new android devices are dual core and quad.
2-Lags alot with ICS .
3-Not good for HD games even when using GB.
4-Overheat from the back when playing games or surfing the web using DATA.
5-when you speak the other side (who listing to you) will hear your voice repeated specially when using the speaker.
6-Less custom roms ( seriously that's why i started making my own roms) than Galaxy or htc users.
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I strongly disagree with most of your points.
1. It depends on what you really need and fit best your needs.
2. You can't even know because there is no official ICS yet.
3. Well it is good enough for HD games. Name one, which doesn't run smooth? I can play GTAIII and MC3 smooth (I don't need anymore ).
4. Every phone heats, you just feel it a little bit more because of the thinness. GS2 users whine about that too.
5. Surely not with normal mic, and for the speaker, I personally don't know any device, which has really good speakers.
6. Less custom ROMs? In Samsung and HTC forums there are only more ROMs, because 80% are stock-based. Do you really need that?
@OP: As I said it depends on what you really need. I am very happy with my Arc S.
BTW: Next time you could search and post your question in Q&A.

dp94 said:
@OP: As I said it depends on what you really need. I am very happy with my Arc S.
BTW: Next time you could search and post your question in Q&A.
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1- Agree maybe i should wait then judge the Arc s with the official ICS hoping it will become better .
2-GTAIII is playable but with few glitches ...
* I used to be happy with my arc but not after i saw the benchmarking of GSII ... And the face unlocking on ICS .

I'd say Arc S is one of the best phones in that price range. I admit the processor and GPU are kinda crappy, but it's still capable of running HD games(such as Asphalt 6, MC3, GTA3 etc.) without noticable lag!
Arc has a lot of custom roms. Phones like i9000 has more roms, but why do we need hundreds of different roms, because we all know that only some of them are good!
One thing I really love in my Arc is the screen! It's large enough(Frankly, I think larger would be too big), it has good resolution, and it hard to damage(it is more scratch-resistant than ie. Gorilla Glass).
And don't you say ICS is laggy! They haven't even released the final build! I believe Arc has a good potential of running ICS.

hemo1001 said:
1- Agree maybe i should wait then judge the Arc s with the official ICS hoping it will become better .
2-GTAIII is playable but with few glitches ...
* I used to be happy with my arc but not after i saw the benchmarking of GSII ... And the face unlocking on ICS .
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1. I am sure Sony won't release some laggy ****. We should be way more happy with Sony for even releasing a alpha/beta version.
2. IMO, It depends on the ROM. I haven't had any on CM7 and stock based ROM like Arconium.

But still it hasn't enough RAM, apps need more and more RAM.
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Motorola Atrix

if u wanna a phone, a good looking phone, with good call quality,camera and sound yes u should, but don't expect it to do any heavy lifting like crazy multitasking or graphic intence gaming..

well,i sold my HTC Evo 3D two days ago and iam using my old Arc For now.
coming from Evo i feel some lag in games but homescreen feels same.overall i dont see much difference in performance(i mean real life performance not benchmarks) but if you are a power user dont get this if you want a overall good smartphone with good camera Arc is pretty cheap now.go for it

Worth buying now?

Hello everybody,
Im planning on purchasing the atrix only for the finger print security feature. Do you think its a good move. Im currently using samsung galaxy W.
Does it have a functional CM9 with camera and finger print scanner. Is it easy to use or just an over hyped feature?
Hows the battery life?
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Sensor is easy to use but you still have to press and then swipe. I am currently using it on CM7. I am not sure if it is working on CM9.

IMO, this phone isn't worth a penny now. You should look into a more recent phone that already has ics.

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IMO, this phone isn't worth a penny now. You should look into a more recent phone that already has ics.
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But isnt this the only phone with a finger print sensor? I love the galaxy nexus but the hardware on atrix seems good enough combined with this unique security feature.
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tanveer55 said:
But isnt this the only phone with a finger print sensor? I love the galaxy nexus but the hardware on atrix seems good enough combined with this unique security feature.
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If you are 100% sure that you want a phone with a finger print sensor then yes, the Atrix is the only one. I personally find the screen size of the Atrix which is 4 inches too small nowadays. The CPU quickly overheats even with browsing the internet or watching a video. Yes, the 1GB of ram and the dual core are nice but I would personally go with the galaxy nexus since you will be getting Android 4.1 (Jelly Bean) that Google just announced a few days ago.

She has been kicking butt.
I'm not sure why "Atrix_Owner" is being so negitive about the Atrix, unless there has been some trouble.
The specs on the phone are decent, and it has been very responsive. At the moment CM7 is still far more tested than 9, and If you want proper support for the array of docking accessories, I would suggest a blur rom (I have reverted to using NottachTrix).
I would say if it fits your budget and you are wanting a print scanner, it is well worth it. If nothing else, the battery life is pretty amazing once you are away from a stock rom. Just make sure to search the forums for instructions on battery calibration.

Atrix is a good buy considering price / performance ratio and its unique features.

This phone is really good, and there are many cm7 based roms with working fingerprint. If Motorola honours its commitment to give us ics, then we'll have really good cm9 roms as well. I do hope the ics drivers carry over to jelly bean as well, since I highly doubt Motorola will provide an update for that once its released.
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i have dual booted my atrix and it runs both the roms with zero lag !!
so hardware-wise you're not falling behind unless you want a quad core !
buying it now totally depends at the price you would be getting it !
also battery life and audio quality is excellent on this device !
still one of my favourite devices :good:

If you get the phone for less than $50, go for it. Otherwise...get a flagship phone.

I like the Atrix because of the scanner lock, I dont think it is a feature that most people use or need but for me it is a reason I am keeping my phone. If I want to surf the web or watch a movie I use my Xoom.
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Thanks alot guys for the help and your advises. Its always good to recieve feedback from actual users of the phone.
Brand new costs 400 usd but there is a guy selling a sealed brand new piece for 265. I guess id go for it.
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I have 2 atrixes. They are good phones for the price. I lucked out I think and got them both at 150 a piece used. Just found out my warranty is good on both still and sent one back to motor( there latest update messed it all up). If u want to spend more money you can get something better but in my opinion you get plenty bang for your buck

Atrix_Owner said:
If you are 100% sure that you want a phone with a finger print sensor then yes, the Atrix is the only one. I personally find the screen size of the Atrix which is 4 inches too small nowadays. The CPU quickly overheats even with browsing the internet or watching a video. Yes, the 1GB of ram and the dual core are nice but I would personally go with the galaxy nexus since you will be getting Android 4.1 (Jelly Bean) that Google just announced a few days ago.
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Might as well wait for the Note 2 if you are going to waste money on a GNX.
ICS is overrated anyway for all the hoopla it gets.
Basically like when people go so excited over GB. *yawn*

I have 1 week with a used atrix (preview owner of a xperia play) i was always a sony fan but seen the screen of the atrix i have never seen any xperia (even the new ones) with a screen so nice.
If you check specs on new phones this one is on the top. Maybe the battery is weak (if you use it for intense gaming) .
ICS? i liked it on tablet but not on my phone. I own a motorola xoom and it was a relif when ICS came because it was made for table but on phones it only adds few changes worth the upgrade. Motoblur got it right with gingerbread. ICS looks to black and bland :S

The phone is pretty good if you get it REALLY cheap.
It has some hardware features which I adore such as dedicated HDMI port, the fingerprint scanner and a pretty decent battery but the tegra 2 chipset is just weak, unless you're using CM7 you'll have animation lag and the developers community is rather dedicated but relatively tiny compared to the flagship devices from google, samsung and HTC.
If you're just looking for great performance, ROM stability and variety
get a nexus or S3, the smoothness and the ROM variety is remarkable.
I purchased my atrix for the webtop. I really hoped that it would be something I could take for some light web browsing and note taking and it was a horrible, laggy and broken experience.
Only now with a relatively stable CM7 the webtop experience is getting pretty good but instead of utilizing the full screen resolution, it simply mirrors the phone with a sub-par resolution.
Current CM9 roms can't record video, have a really unstable cam and often have graphic related issues which are not in any way a developer's fault since they have to manage without any moto libraries for the ICS.
Motorola promised ICS sometime in Q3, which means it wont be available until the last day of September and I'm being optimistic.
The device is not bad. I've seen so much worse, however it's not a middle range or a cheap device. It might be more than a year old but it's still a flagship.
I personally feel offended that my old Samsung captivate has a smooth, fast fully functional ICS that works heaps faster than my CM7 atrix.
I really hope that sometime later this year I'll take my words back, but so far I can't recommend the device as it is.

andrew.cambridge said:
If you get the phone for less than $50, go for it. Otherwise...get a flagship phone.
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Somebody could offer me $200 for my Atrix and I still wouldn't sell it. This may be the first smartphone that I may NEVER sell. (I've owned close to 20 of them too).
Currently I just got a SGSII, and I keep putting my SIM back in my Atrix since there's too many things that don't work properly on the SGSII. For example text to fit (reflow or double tap manually doesn't work on the default browser) is just one issue. There's others.
IDK I keep looking over @ my SGSII and wondering if I may just sell it off to my friend willing to buy it. If i keep it, it will probably be for a few months. Sad that my Atrix without ICS does more than my SGSII with ICS. Really the only thing that I like about the SGSII is the screen. Yeah it really is that good, but the flaws are kinda bringing it down.
@OP yeah get the Atrix, IMHO $300 or less (being dead serious about that price) is still worth it for this phone... (and yes battery life is amazing)
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Well..
Atrix 4G's fingerprint security feature is
very cool.
But There are only unoffical CM9 and it has lots of problem.
You should wait until 3Q for offical ICS.
(This is plan for U.S)
So, it is better to do not buy Atrix 4G for
ICS
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I have a contract coming to an end and started looking around for a new phone. Did some research on ICS and found networks can detect tethering on ICS but not on Gingerbread.
Looking at new phones, Sony have nothing of interest. Why buy a Nexus with only 16Gb of storage? Galaxy S3 is too big. I love HTC phones but all the new HTCs are rubbish (like the Nexus, never buy an android phone without an sd card slot!). And I don't do Apple, I'm no fruit muncher.
Then I came across the Atrix. Brand new, unused, in box, 150. Webtop, hdmi, dual core, bluetooth keyboard/mouse, docks with full size usb sockets, takes 64gb sd card, mugen battery. Great custom ROMs, webtops etc. Name one new phone that does all of that!!
OK, at the moment it is gingerbread only, but Motorola will release ICS for ATT version later this year and there will be some good custom ROMs after that.
I jumped at the chance to own this android icon.

At $150 or 150 €, the Atrix is still a very interesting buy...