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[Verdict 10/11/11] MIUI vs Samsung ROMs (Non ASOP ones)

Alright after a week of testing. Heres the rundown.
Stock Features you will miss:
Enhanced Contacts.
Motion Gestures.
HW Accelerated Browser
The Cam. MIUI isnt as good.
Battery life.
MIUI features you will miss if you're hooked:
Firewall
Guard
App lock
Themes
UI. duh.
Elegance.
Overall verdict is wait a bit. MIUI can be better. The MIUI contacts isnt good either.

Oh and Stock Cam vs MIUI Cam.. whats better?

Use skifta instead of allshare and wi fi file explorer instead of kies.
Tw camera is better.
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Aldonski said:
Use skifta instead of allshare and wi fi file explorer instead of kies.
Tw camera is better.
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Thanks. Got Swype Beta working. Gotta check out TW Cam.

I think he meant touch wizard in TW camera. I would like this camera the hw accerated browser and tv out support in a miui hybrid rom.
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Im using Upnplay instead of allshare.
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There has to be some Pros and Cons in AOSP ROMs over Stock ROMs. Customisations, speedy UI etc are better but on the other hand there are some simple yet impotent things aren't available or buggy! Why would one buy Samsung on first place and then suddenly they want to get rid of Samsung junk? A little bit of iOS, little bit of Android, I hate it anyway.

I have frozen literally everything all the Samsung bloatware that can be frozen, i think ive used Kies like once, it's a crock of sh*t anyway buggy as hell, allshare is a serious battery drainer too, why do people still use this rubbish then complain about serious battery drainage?

I love all MIUI stuff but I dislike the battery draining, camera is not good and video playback is so poor 'cause Hw aceleration is not working... Ignoring that, I prefer a lot this even over the perfect stock rom, 'cause I can personalize everything.

I've had a look and play with miui and cm7 nightly #99 lately.
Still like Samsung's roms better. To me they just seem more polished. Camera, calendar, etc, add jkay mods in there too.
Also find music sounds better for me on Samsung roms. That surprised me.
I pick cm7 over miui by a mile.
I must be missing something about miui because i didnt see anything to make me use it over Samsung or cm7.
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Miui UI is better than stock...
Gotto wait until Miui rom fully functional only can compare i believe.

kyapkk said:
Miui UI is better than stock...
Gotto wait until Miui rom fully functional only can compare i believe.
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Cool ill take another look at it later.
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I am on Samsung rom because of contacts, I have personalized contacts in gmail and on miui only can see icons for the type of numbers of my contacts, in Samsung rom contacts app i can see personalized info about my contacts numbers
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I've tried CM7 and it's pretty nice especially with all of the themes and it is incredibly fast, however I love TouchWiz! Good Widgets, great camera app, smoothest launcher (IMO), and of course the best browser on any Android device.
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So I am still testing it and so far I like it. Gonna reply you all and update the main thread with opinion.
Aldonski said:
Use skifta instead of allshare and wi fi file explorer instead of kies.
Tw camera is better.
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I got Swype working. Good points, thanks.
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I think he meant touch wizard in TW camera. I would like this camera the hw accerated browser and tv out support in a miui hybrid rom.
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Yeah, couldnt find TW Cam, thanks.
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Im using Upnplay instead of allshare.
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Thanks!
ithehappy said:
There has to be some Pros and Cons in AOSP ROMs over Stock ROMs. Customisations, speedy UI etc are better but on the other hand there are some simple yet impotent things aren't available or buggy! Why would one buy Samsung on first place and then suddenly they want to get rid of Samsung junk? A little bit of iOS, little bit of Android, I hate it anyway.
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Yeah, its a personal preference. Thats the point of this thread. Do we wanna lose functionality for looks?
jonny68 said:
I have frozen literally everything all the Samsung bloatware that can be frozen, i think ive used Kies like once, it's a crock of sh*t anyway buggy as hell, allshare is a serious battery drainer too, why do people still use this rubbish then complain about serious battery drainage?
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I know what you mean Same here.
badtzo said:
I love all MIUI stuff but I dislike the battery draining, camera is not good and video playback is so poor 'cause Hw aceleration is not working... Ignoring that, I prefer a lot this even over the perfect stock rom, 'cause I can personalize everything.
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Elaborate please. You got a point about HW acceleration. Ill look into it. Battery seems fine..
aceofclubs said:
I've had a look and play with miui and cm7 nightly #99 lately.
Still like Samsung's roms better. To me they just seem more polished. Camera, calendar, etc, add jkay mods in there too.
Also find music sounds better for me on Samsung roms. That surprised me.
I pick cm7 over miui by a mile.
I must be missing something about miui because i didnt see anything to make me use it over Samsung or cm7.
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You are missing some neat features. Wait for me to update my OP. Camera sucks. Agree.
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I am on Samsung rom because of contacts, I have personalized contacts in gmail and on miui only can see icons for the type of numbers of my contacts, in Samsung rom contacts app i can see personalized info about my contacts numbers
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Hmm, yeah you cant sort contacts. Good point.
Updating my OP.~
King Shady said:
I've tried CM7 and it's pretty nice especially with all of the themes and it is incredibly fast, however I love TouchWiz! Good Widgets, great camera app, smoothest launcher (IMO), and of course the best browser on any Android device.
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SilentRazor said:
[*]The easy screenshots like iOS.
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About this, in MIUI you just have to press volume down+menu. Pretty easy IMO...
About everything else im with you, but let me add one more con about MIUI: Call recording doenst work. Not the stock app but neither "CallRecorder" app.
Since this is an important feature for me, I hope they manage to fixed it because I really like MIUI.

Every now and then, i fill that urge to try MIUI or Cyanogen, and after a day or two, i am back to Samsung ROMs ...
1.I've been modifying my framework and TW launcher since my i9000 and i have made my personal setup from it
2.Video codecs support, although recently i've found Dice player who looks extremely capable, even more than the default one
3.The small little things, like brightness swipe on status bar, call and message swipe on contacts and some others that doesn't come to mind right now
4.Like someone else stated, i also like the cohesion of the stock ROM
There are some things that always bothered me that Samsung doesn't implement in it's ROMs like percentage battery and BLN. I mean, those are are easy to do, add functionality and they blend well with stock ..., but luckily, this is Android and we can do it ourselves .

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Now that MIUI have officially launched the S2 ROM. I tried it. I used to use the Litening ROM. So far there have been PROS and CONS. Some neat features that I love that I dont wanna go back. But there are some minor things which I can't live without either.
I will be updating this thread with Pro and Cons with you guys support.
Stock ROM features I miss:
The Motion Gestures. In Gallery and on Launcher. I think that was TouchWiz 4.0... right?
Kies and AllShare. I would love to have those two. SGS2 is the only Android device out there with DLNA support and would be a shame to cut it out. --There are alternatives. WifiFile Explorer. And Upnplay.
The easy screenshots like iOS.
Swype support. I sideloaded Swype but looks like I cant switch themes. And the Official Swype installer on MIUI says the resolution isn't supported. Weird. -- It works.
The Camera App. For some weird reason I think the MIUI Cam has flaws. -- Still looking for an alternative. Gonna checkout TW Camera.
And this may be stupid but MIUI doesnt show H+ icons. Just H. (Network icon) -- Think themes can fix this.
MIUI Features I love:
The torch. Pretty neat, you can use it by pressing the Home Button.
The UI and themes. Obvious
The Music App Lyrics
You can lock specific apps. And even hide them.
The Guard feature. Now I can give my phone to anyone w/o worrying bout them snooping.
Status: Back to Stock. MIUI has Battery drain issues.
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There are alot of devices come with DLNA. Atrix for example.
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SilentRazor said:
Now that MIUI have officially launched the S2 ROM. I tried it. I used to use the Litening ROM. So far there have been PROS and CONS. Some neat features that I love that I dont wanna go back. But there are some minor things which I can't live without either.
I will be updating this thread with Pro and Cons with you guys support.
Stock ROM features I miss:
The Motion Gestures. In Gallery and on Launcher. I think that was TouchWiz 4.0... right?
Kies and AllShare. I would love to have those two. SGS2 is the only Android device out there with DLNA support and would be a shame to cut it out. --There are alternatives. WifiFile Explorer. And Upnplay.
The easy screenshots like iOS.
Swype support. I sideloaded Swype but looks like I cant switch themes. And the Official Swype installer on MIUI says the resolution isn't supported. Weird. -- It works.
The Camera App. For some weird reason I think the MIUI Cam has flaws. -- Still looking for an alternative. Gonna checkout TW Camera.
And this may be stupid but MIUI doesnt show H+ icons. Just H. (Network icon) -- Think themes can fix this.
MIUI Features I love:
The torch. Pretty neat, you can use it by pressing the Home Button.
The UI and themes. Obvious
The Music App Lyrics
You can lock specific apps. And even hide them.
The Guard feature. Now I can give my phone to anyone w/o worrying bout them snooping.
Status: Back to Stock. MIUI has Battery drain issues.
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and the only thing stock vs Miui i care is the internet browser in stock rom that comes with hardware accelerated. And also the long press edit for search is imssing in MIUI.

What I can't live without is the to out support via MHL missing from all aosp roms.
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4ltair said:
Every now and then, i fill that urge to try MIUI or Cyanogen, and after a day or two, i am back to Samsung ROMs ...
1.I've been modifying my framework and TW launcher since my i9000 and i have made my personal setup from it
2.Video codecs support, although recently i've found Dice player who looks extremely capable, even more than the default one
3.The small little things, like brightness swipe on status bar, call and message swipe on contacts and some others that doesn't come to mind right now
4.Like someone else stated, i also like the cohesion of the stock ROM
There are some things that always bothered me that Samsung doesn't implement in it's ROMs like percentage battery and BLN. I mean, those are are easy to do, add functionality and they blend well with stock ..., but luckily, this is Android and we can do it ourselves .
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I am with you there. I am back to stock as well and am working on modifying the framework.

why dont you ppl like touchwiz? touchwiz is amazing

how can so many of you not like touchwiz, lemme correct that *HATE touchwiz... i realize its the hip thing to do, to hate touchwiz, and you somehow think it makes you look pro.. but touchwiz rocks.. most of you havent even seen what the alternative is, you just hate it cause everyone else does.
do you realize losing touchwiz loses:
*built in screen capture by pressing home+lock
*task manager built into long press
*swipe left/right to call/text in contacts/dialer/texts
*toggles in drop down menu
*amazing UI in camera/file manager/ music player
*ability to adjust display options, beyond what stock roms are capable of
*swype
* ability to adjust brightness by moving dropbar back and forth
* the option to use the actual touchwiz launcher
* Divx, Xvid, and .avi support out of the box, as well as other formats supported only by samsung
its not like having a stock rom gives you anything in place of these.. if you dont like the touchwiz launcher, you can install another one, i cant see why ppl are soo determined to get rid of it, and have nothing in its place. would you really rather have no options, in place of where you DID have options?

I personally like touchwiz and that's the reason i'm not switching to
aosp
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You forgot all the built in format support for multimedia files.

On older devices the phone was much slower when using samsung roms (tw) than AOSP. I i think that's the main reason why some people HATE touchwiz.
Right now AOSP roms like cm7 are still faster than Samsung roms, but that doesn't means that Samsung roms are bad!
Touchwiz has some goodies were it still bet AOSP, so at the end is a matter of personal taste.
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I personally like the TouchWiz UI on Gingerbread. It's an update over AOSP/CM7 Roms.
However, seeing that KP4 video, i find that TouchWiz 4 is a downgrade for ICS. Many of the features that TW4 had over Gingerbread were implemented in ICS.
So for me AOSP is the way to go for ICS.

hell yeah .!! i love touch wiz

I have nothing against TW, there are many parts of it that I actually like, but ICS seems to be a big step forward for Android and TW (at least the ALPHA/BETA iteration does not seem that much of a step forward).
Granted, I am actually not really sure what I expected of TW and ICS, but I guess I was expecting to see more of ICS (Roboto, the Blueish Hue for the Signal Meter/etc.) and maybe over time my expectations will rationalize and I will see TW as my mode for interaction with Android and ICS.
Dan

I just find it clunky. I always install LauncherPro immediatly after a reflash. Much easier to fit stuff on my home screen.

Others run better on my phone. That simple. No hate.
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Hell yeah. Now I look 1337/pro/boss status.

Well...in ICS taskmanager will be replaced from standard one.
I like ics but it has some missing feature
1)Sorter icon on app drawer (only using appZorter)
2)Custom icon of status bar (thanks Jkay)
3)HORRIBLE!!!! Green battery. Add a % better battery.

i think tw is good. the features are just amazing. this is my first time to use a samsung android phone (former lg user) and i find tw really functional compared to my past phone's ui. i just don't like the look... there's a lot of launchers out there anyway. and about aosp, i just think it's too plain for casual users, like... me... hehehe!
btw, happy new year, guys!

Because I can't resize all widgets, have 6x6 home and lock screen, customize animations and change themes and icons. I also can't hide the dock or the status bar.
ADW is better IMHO.
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DannyDrama said:
Because I can't resize all widgets, have 6x6 home and lock screen, customize animations and change themes and icons. I also can't hide the dock or the status bar.
ADW is better IMHO.
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TouchWiz is not a launcher!

It's not TW that's bad, it's TWlauncher that sucks ;-)
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soraxd said:
how can so many of you not like touchwiz, lemme correct that *HATE touchwiz... i realize its the hip thing to do, to hate touchwiz, and you somehow think it makes you look pro.. but touchwiz rocks.. most of you havent even seen what the alternative is, you just hate it cause everyone else does.
do you realize losing touchwiz loses:
*built in screen capture by pressing home+lock
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not bad, but it's built into ICS as well
*task manager built into long press
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but number of recent apps down to 6, very annoying; besides, task manager is really not necessary for a powerful phone like S2, I always have around 500mb free ram sitting around. I rarely use task manager to kill background apps.
*swipe left/right to call/text in contacts/dialer/texts
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ya, it may be handy sometimes, but no threaded call logs, and call logs are mixed with sms logs.
*toggles in drop down menu
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CM ROM can do even better, such as 2G/3G/2G&3G modes toggle
*amazing UI in camera/file manager/ music player
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indeed amazing camera UI, but file manger & music player are so so. There are better and free alternatives. The camera app is the only thing I will miss about TW.
*ability to adjust display options, beyond what stock roms are capable of
*swype
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can be installed separately anyway
* ability to adjust brightness by moving dropbar back and forth
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I find brightness level widget easier to use.
* the option to use the actual touchwiz launcher
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What's so good about TW Launcher anyway?
* Divx, Xvid, and .avi support out of the box, as well as other formats supported only by samsung
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Agree. Samsung does have the best codec support of all, but it's not like there is no alternatives available.
its not like having a stock rom gives you anything in place of these.. if you dont like the touchwiz launcher, you can install another one, i cant see why ppl are soo determined to get rid of it, and have nothing in its place. would you really rather have no options, in place of where you DID have options?
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Having a stock rom I can get almost everything that TW provides by installing 3rd party apps; on the other hand, on a stock TW rom, I'm stuck with no video calling in GTalk, no green icon indicating Google service status, only 6 recent apps and a bunch of Samsung bloatwares.

Touchwiz is ugly..
iphoney SMS
launcher icons
Pull down toggle icons
Music player

Touchwiz would be the best launcher if it had the following
1.multi dpi scaling.
2.proper resize support.

I tried out CM9 yesterday and the only thing I miss from tw is the browser.. smoother IMO, even compared to the videos of the galaxy nexus..
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Happy new year!
I don't hate TouchWiz but I just felt it is too 'stock' feeling. Just love to modify so TouchWiz isn't my main choice...
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I like touchwiz. Its the only UI where the launcher runs perfectly smooth even using a heavy live wallpaper. I believe that they use the cartoony colors to show off the Super Amoled screen as well. The only thing that will make me flash a non touchwiz ROM is Stock ICS, cuz im not using the visually unpolished abomination that AOSP Gingerbread is. MIUI is sorta buggy for us so its out imo
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[Discussion] Wishlist for upcoming CM10 / AOSP Rom(s)

CM10 / AOSP Rom Wishlist​
We all know CM just recently announce CM10 will be coming just around the corner, so what will we be expecting?
All the Android 4.1 JellyBean goodies of course!
Still, there's a couple more things couldn't be added to enhance the stock android experience.
NOTE
Would like to clarify something before you start posting, CM10 will run as pure android 4.1 user experience with other enhancement make the phone more customizable. As it runs on AOSP framework, there will be strictly no TOUCHwiZ, NO SENSe, NO OTHER NONSENSE related request in this thread, just pure android.
As none dev, you should only bug report, request CM10/Trebuche launcher related features, anything beyond that you'll be on your own! (Either develop a ROM base of CM10 source with the features you've wanted YOURSELF, or FIND OTHER ROMS that suites your taste, no reason to rage and flame in this thread)
Special Note:
To new Android users particularly coming from iOS: It's understandable coming from iOS to Android is a huge change between two different OS, it's also understandable that you're not used to DIY stuff like rooting your own phone, reading simple instruction and the known issue;mainly because you're too used to getting spoon fed back in iOS.This leads to asking dumb question, flaming in the particular thread, harassing at developers who practically offer their ROM for free! Long story short, LEARN TO READ! Make use of the search tool bar, trust me when I say it's useful. I was the same when back then, tho I had a lil' experience coming from symbian s60v3 &v5 development, DailyMobile forum.
Hope CM10 project related personals read this. Let's thanks them in advance for their hardwork!

I'll go first,
I've read a couple post in XDA and was hinted that Chrome for Android will not be the default browser for Android 4.1 JellyBean as Chrome for Android will only be available as default browser for Nexus 7, not part of Android 4.1 update (kind of misleading there).
So here's my request:
-Make Chrome for Android as CM10 default browser.

Tablet UI!!!
Just like paranoid AOSP rom, or was it AOKP.
Tablet ui kind of homescreen will definitely look amazing on SGSIII 4.7inch HD screen!

Trebuchet: swipe down to open notifications. Helps for big screens.
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Trebuchet: add the possibility to select random transition effect

Trebuchet: icons and widgets automatically rearrange when adding new icons or widgets like stock jb launcher
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rayz93 said:
-Make Chrome for Android as CM10 default browser.
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As Google mentionned, it'll be part of Google Apps. If not, then it won't be the default browser as we can't pack proprietary apps in the ROM.
Freeme3 said:
Tablet UI!!!
Just like paranoid AOSP rom, or was it AOKP.
Tablet ui kind of homescreen will definitely look amazing on SGSIII 4.7inch HD screen!
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We said no for CM9, same will apply for CM10.
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Trebuchet: swipe down to open notifications. Helps for big screens.
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Trebuchet: add the possibility to select random transition effect
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Will forward to nebkat
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Trebuchet: icons and widgets automatically rearrange when adding new icons or widgets like stock jb launcher
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Obviously Trebuchet will be rebased on Jelly Bean's launcher code.

What I would like to see is:
- ability to set ascending incoming call ringtone volume
- ability to set peak and off peak hours for Exchange mail
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Ability to check notifications when in a full-screen app, a nicer camera app (perhaps a UI overhaul to make the viewfinder bigger).

Smaller dial pad to allow more than 1 contact prediction. The dial pad takes 80% real estate but used 20% of the time.
If I can get maybe 5 predictions I'll have the correct prediction in far fewer touches.
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One thing that annoys me:
I've got some contacts with more than one Phone Number, and when using T9 in the Dialer, I'm nearly always calling the wrong number of these contacts. I would love to see an option to either choose every time which number to call, or an option to always automatically call the most frequent number.
I know I could also store two contacts for these to numbers, but that's so 1990-like

A new camera app with transparent interface. The AOSP camera is horrible and it's the number 1 reason people don't use AOSP. Most people just flash CM, like it, then fire up the camera, and return to stock ROM.
Please don't say we can't change AOSP apps, if Apollo music player can replace the AOSP one, certainly a better camera app can be integrated to CM.

aydc said:
A new camera app with transparent interface. The AOSP camera is horrible and it's the number 1 reason people don't use AOSP. Most people just flash CM, like it, then fire up the camera, and return to stock ROM.
Please don't say we can't change AOSP apps, if Apollo music player can replace the AOSP one, certainly a better camera app can be integrated to CM.
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Use one in the play store?
For example: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=slide.cameraZoom
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RoadXY said:
Use one in the play store?
For example: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=slide.cameraZoom
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Better Quality pictures and videos in par with Stock SGS 3 will be nicer than just a diffent camera app...I won't mind the same Camera app If the Quality is on par with the Stock
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Apollo: in my opinion would be great to have the possibility to sort by album but not basing on single folder but on mp3 info.
For example if I have an album with more CD and I have a folder for each CD, apollo lists different album with the same name and in my opinion is ugly, basing on mp3 info I would get a single album with all the song.
Or better to have the possibility to select between these possibility.
I see this feature in only few player such as poweramp.

Pinch to zoom for web browsing just like in CM7 please!

Ability to hide the on-screen navigation buttons and utilise the hardware/capacitive buttons instead. Maximise screen space.
On-screen buttons suck!

Trebuchet:
- scrollable dock
- hide apps in app drawer
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eternise said:
Pinch to zoom for web browsing just like in CM7 please!
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I'm sorry but what do you mean?
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Mounting samba share in the system so I can open video files without the use of upnp

what do you think about the new official ics?

Well i already installed it wit infamous 2 but i dont like it. I think touchwiz in this rom look horrible, with colors that in personal i dont like it. And many features like face unlock are not in this upgrade. What do you think?

Other than face unlock, for which I have absolutely no use for, whats missing?
+ Beats HC and the former ICS/JB custom ROMS by a mile.
+ Runs great, especially the browser.
+ Looks good, but I like stock JB better, nothing to bad though.

too big font, too bright color, ugly locking screen, lost about 200MB RAM.
All other things are great.

Its touchwiz again. I think it looks horrible and i hope cm10 will get the camera drivers soon.
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As far as performance is concerned it is great, a big step forward compared to previous ROMs or other custom firmware. Unfortunately, it is bloated with Touchwiz apps which are not necessary since there are Google equivalent apps that do the job perfectly well.
However, the biggest issue for me is the fact that it has no consistent user interface, a problem common to all non-stock Android versions. The Samsung apps have their own Touchwiz user interface while all other apps use the standard ICS user interface elements and colours. Some system elements like the Settings panel and various pop up windows utilise the Touchwiz graphical elements while others the standard ICS elements. Even the arrows that allow the user to select a piece of text look completely different depending on whether one is running a Samsung app or a standard Android one!
In my opinion, it is important for an OS which depends heavily on the user interface, like tablet and phone OSes, to have a common and standard look and feel not only for cosmetic purposes but also to ensure that the users are not confused and all apps look consistent with a specific design philosophy so that users can easily locate menus and other elements. This is the biggest failure of Touchwiz and as a result the overall look and feel of this firmware is strange with bright and colourful user interface elements when Touchwiz is used and dark black and blue elements when running standard Android apps.
Notice here that I am not judging the quality of Touchwiz vs standard ICS and some people prefer the one instead of the other. I am saying that whatever the choice of user inteface it has to be consistent throughout the system and third-party apps. Personally, I prefer the standard ICS user inteface but this is not the point of my argument.
I hope that third-party Android developers will use the updated libraries of this firmware as well as the camera drivers to produce a fully functioning standard ICS or Jelly Bean ROM through projects like CM9/CM10 for the Galaxy Tab 10.1.
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Braaank said:
Well i already installed it wit infamous 2 but i dont like it. I think touchwiz in this rom look horrible, with colors that in personal i dont like it. And many features like face unlock are not in this upgrade. What do you think?
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I am one of those who actually MUCH prefer Touchwiz and the other Samsung apps, added settings and personalizations (for example the overlay mini-apps and the now configurable screenshot button are extremely handy and I hate the "2-steps" notification bar in non-TW ROMs) so for me this ROM is GREAT.
I have never been interested in the least in face-unlock, I have always used the pattern lockscreen.
What I would have liked to see in this ROM are the SIM application toolkit, the numbers top row in the keyboard (like in all the recent Samsung keyboards) and the battery percentage.
P.S. that said, if the G.Tab 10.1 isn't going to get an official JB update from Samsung I am sure that at some point, once it matures, I will go back to CM10...

I have installed it on P7500 3G and it works fine (4.0.4 firmware for Italy)
however, keyboard does NOT work in Android Terminal Emulator, and I don´t know why
does anybody else use Terminal Emulator, can you check and report? thanks

Braaank said:
Well i already installed it wit infamous 2 but i dont like it. I think touchwiz in this rom look horrible, with colors that in personal i dont like it. And many features like face unlock are not in this upgrade. What do you think?
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I'm as happy as a pig in ****, now I might use it for more than a glorified Netflix machine.
That was the thing with the custom ICS/JB roms is that they were so unstable and brought literally nothing to the table besides being someone else's opinion on what they thought I wanted.
I want stability and I want good, official looking apps. Not File Manager HD with its advertising aids and not some bright ass boot animation that blinds me every time I have to reboot because it froze overnight.
But I digress.
I think this release by Samsung is quite amazing, and it will hold me off long enough till I decide to buy a newer model Galaxy Tab.
At the rate Samsung is going they are going to be my new favorite company. Not just because of this update, for numerous other dealings as well.

peraburek said:
I have installed it on P7500 3G and it works fine (4.0.4 firmware for Italy)
however, keyboard does NOT work in Android Terminal Emulator, and I don´t know why
does anybody else use Terminal Emulator, can you check and report? thanks
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I had that same problem yesterday, no matter which keyboard I tried, I'll probably just use another terminal app.
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The new version is definitely a step ahead. It seems Swype is usable now, although it still lags a bit but at least it can keep up with typing for me not like earlier versions.
I also like it and I guess touchwiz is inevitable. Desktop customization has been upgraded too which is very useful.
If something else could be asked is a tad more smoothness when switching desktops and probably one last push update to jelly bean for increased smoothness.
We'll see in the coming days with extended use. For.me :good:

Am I the only one havin' problems playin' some HD videos in the youtube app? (Factory Reset done after odin flash) My old SGS running ICS is capable of doin' that.
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the ugliness of the Samsung 4.0.4 really disturbs me...
Was Samsung smoking pot in the many months spent on making it on to 10.1?

peraburek said:
I have installed it on P7500 3G and it works fine (4.0.4 firmware for Italy)
however, keyboard does NOT work in Android Terminal Emulator, and I don´t know why
does anybody else use Terminal Emulator, can you check and report? thanks
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It doesn't work for me too. I can enter numbers and other symbols, but I cannot enter any letters.
Edit: It turned out, that using Swype instead of Samsung keyboard, works great in the Terminal Emulator.

new ics samsung
iI like it, very stable and with best email stock client that I never see.

I really am digging it. My only complaint so far is how close the notification icons are to each other.

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Am I the only one havin' problems playin' some HD videos in the youtube app? (Factory Reset done after odin flash) My old SGS running ICS is capable of doin' that.
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same problem here ...

The only thing that i complain in this new build, is there are some games that aren't working. For example Mass Effect (GooglePlay obviously) it works on CM9, however doesn't on the Samsung rom (both 4.04).

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same problem here ...
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no problems whatsoever here and what "problems" are you two talking about exactly?
P.S. and I watch a lot of Youtube videos on the tab

daniel_fm said:
The new version is definitely a step ahead. It seems Swype is usable now, although it still lags a bit but at least it can keep up with typing for me not like earlier versions.
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Yes!!! This was probably the first thing I checked once the install had finished. I love Swype but it was pretty much unusable in stock HC on the tab. No more automatic deleting of the last two characters when typing a search into the browser!!!
From my perspective it's a it early to give an opinion but it's looking good so far although my quadrant score has taken a nosedive (yes, I know that doesn't mean anytihgn in reality)

Lagging playback on some HD videos.
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Pure Android JB on GS3?

Hi guys,
I just bought a Nexus 7 and I love it. Issue is the differences between that and the TouchWiz are getting annoying.
nothing huge but would prefer having the same on both.
This isn't a what rom is best question, but mainly which offers the closest to pure Jelly Bean for GS3?
I know Cyanomod is popular, would that be a good place to start?

Try super nexus by faryaab. That is closest to stock experience.
☞ sent from GS3 or Nexus

Any AOSP based Rom, like pure AOSP, cyanogenmod 10 or AOKP will do, they all use the same launcher as nexus 7 just the latter two have extra features like overclocking and extra settings. AOSP is completely clean.
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delsus said:
Any AOSP based Rom, like pure AOSP, cyanogenmod 10 or AOKP will do, they all use the same launcher as nexus 7 just the latter two have extra features like overclocking and extra settings. AOSP is completely clean.
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AOKP seems to be ICS?

Start from CM10 and then move on AOSP based custom Roms.. There are aokp builds which are using jb
You have been zooo==>ted

Wait until jb source is out and I`m pretty sure there will be a aosp based rom. I hope so
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All AOSP roms are boring. They seem to be a little bit faster but after some time i feel there is things absent here and there.

yken said:
All AOSP roms are boring. They seem to be a little bit faster but after some time i feel there is things absent here and there.
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For me the beauty of aosp is that you add what you want to fill in the gaps. I just flashed CM9 and love it so far. The only thing I really miss is smart stay.
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Dav_prime said:
For me the beauty of aosp is that you add what you want to fill in the gaps. I just flashed CM9 and love it so far. The only thing I really miss is smart stay.
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Smart stay ex from market fills that gap

Dav_prime said:
For me the beauty of aosp is that you add what you want to fill in the gaps. I just flashed CM9 and love it so far. The only thing I really miss is smart stay.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.beansoft.eyespy.free
Here's smart stay.

One of the biggest benefits of owning an S3 is having the customized UI you are complaining about. You get a really good messaging app with lots of cool features (like zooming with volume buttons when you're in the car for example, color schemes, you can choose whatever background you like, you are not confined to eye hurting white). You get samsung apps with lots of free apps you would have to pay for, also apps specifically for the S3, optimized for looks and performance. You get direct call, smart stay. You get the smoothest and nicest looking launcher with weather. Everything working out of the box. If it's only the launcher that's bugging you, just use trebuchet, apex or nova. The rest you shouldn't really complain about IMO. Pure android is lacking in looks and functionality, also all the custom roms you install will have worse performance in both 2d and 3d.

You might be right about 3D performance but the OS on CM9 is a HELL of a lot snappier, which - for someone who doesn't play games - is more important. No home button lag either.
I bought the SIII for the hardware and consider the software to be a travesty: it's like Samsung tried to cram as much useless crap in there as possible just so they could say they did it first. Their design standards and eye for colour are hideous. Touchwiz genuinely offends me. If it were not for the sublime hardware I wouldn't touch Samsungs with a bargepole. I'm one of those people who wishes that when you booted your Android phone for the first time you got the choice of stock or manufacturer-branded firmware.
Best wishes to anyone who likes Touchwiz but it's not for me, and I thank those wonderful devs who continue to work hard on removing it and giving us hardware lovers a purer Android experience.
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leoni1980 said:
You might be right about 3D performance but the OS on CM9 is a HELL of a lot snappier, which - for someone who doesn't play games - is more important. No home button lag either.
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I'm not sure by what you mean. The launcher or the menus? They are both equal or faster on stock. No home button lag - install Jkay mod alpha for LI5 and you have that sorted as well. To me the stock android look is so poor and lacks in functionality. My Gnex on stock looks like it's an empty device with basic functionality only. It's a matter of preference I guess. I understand your point of view and wish cm9 and 10 were as fast as the stock samsung roms. They are not.
Not in the ui, not in apps. Battery life is also worse. Fact.

victorator said:
I'm not sure by what you mean. The launcher or the menus? They are both equal or faster on stock. No home button lag - install Jkay mod alpha for LI5 and you have that sorted as well. To me the stock android look is so poor and lacks in functionality. My Gnex on stock looks like it's an empty device with basic functionality only. It's a matter of preference I guess. I understand your point of view and wish cm9 and 10 were as fast as the stock samsung roms. They are not.
Not in the ui, not in apps. Battery life is also worse. Fact.
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Generally I find everything on CM9 feels a lot faster. I have been on stock for most of my ownership of the S3 so I know what the stock OS feels like - whether that's with ICS or the Jellybean leaks (up to LI4). I suppose it's down to personal choice but I don't personally find any functionally to be lacking in the stock ROM on the Nexus 7. I think stock Android is beautiful and I hate the fact that Samsung feels the need to add replace perfectly good things with rubbish ones - like that crappy keyboard of theirs.
Why not at least leave the stock keyboard and the launcher installed and allow the choice for the layman. Things like Smart Stay are a bit of a gimmick, fine, and other things like the swipe to take a screenshot, S(hit)-Voice and other stupid sensor related 'features' are utter crap that no-one surely uses...for me though, the main problem is that Touchwiz is ugly. Everything from the SMS app to the uglified notification bar.
Anyway, each to their own.
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I'm still struggling with the keyboard on the sgs3 I have swift key trial currently but it would be nice to have the stock keys. Which keyboard would people recommend?
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btw what the difference between AOKP and AOSP ??
AOKP = android open kang project but I also don't know what is that =.=

XeactorZ said:
btw what the difference between AOKP and AOSP ??
AOKP = android open kang project but I also don't know what is that =.=
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Aosp is just pure Google stock experience while aokp add some additional features like theme chooser, customize layout and etc.
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markdj57 said:
I'm still struggling with the keyboard on the sgs3 I have swift key trial currently but it would be nice to have the stock keys. Which keyboard would people recommend?
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Swype. It is completely free and fast.
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The problem with Touchwiz is that is has serious lag. Open the Dialer and it takes a good second to open up. Same with all the UI its just slow.
It has a ton of good features such as slide to call and stuff but the lag is killing me.