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Hey everyone.
I installed a leaked version of Froyo on my Galaxy 3 I5800. I'm using the hack to always install the apps on the memory card. However, only the main apks of the apps are being stored on the memory card. Any application data is still being stored on the internal memory. For example, installing Angry Birds takes 10 MB on the memory card, but also takes about 2 MB on the internal phone memory..
Apps2SD is a huge improvement, but still, if the data's being stored on the internal memory, I'm gonna run out of space some time or the other.
Is there a hack or something to make the phone keep even the data on the memory card? I've heard about Apps2Ext but not sure if that can be installed on my phone and whether it stores the app data on the EXT partition too.
Any ideas?
Android documentation says that even when app. is installed on SD card,
"The .apk file is saved on the external storage, but all private user data, databases, optimized .dex files, and extracted native code are saved on the internal device memory."
TekkenLaw said:
Android documentation says that even when app. is installed on SD card,
"The .apk file is saved on the external storage, but all private user data, databases, optimized .dex files, and extracted native code are saved on the internal device memory."
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May be that's better because program can run faster.. anyway you can solve it by creating of ext2 partition on your SD card and virtualy enlarge internal storage.
But I haven't found any manual how to do it on i5800.
Are there ext2 capabilities in the i5800's Froyo? I'm asking because 2.1 lacks them, much to my dismay. A Linuxish device with a closed file system (rfs) with no tools available (and FAT), erm...
addicted2088 said:
Hey everyone.
I installed a leaked version of Froyo on my Galaxy 3 I5800. I'm using the hack to always install the apps on the memory card. However, only the main apks of the apps are being stored on the memory card. Any application data is still being stored on the internal memory. For example, installing Angry Birds takes 10 MB on the memory card, but also takes about 2 MB on the internal phone memory..
Apps2SD is a huge improvement, but still, if the data's being stored on the internal memory, I'm gonna run out of space some time or the other.
Is there a hack or something to make the phone keep even the data on the memory card? I've heard about Apps2Ext but not sure if that can be installed on my phone and whether it stores the app data on the EXT partition too.
Any ideas?
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install move to SD first then choose the option Exteral SD.Anything you install from now on will be installed to the SDCARD but aware the widgets and programs that require root doesn't work well in the SDCARD together with home replacement program.Unless of course the app itself support installing to SD.
banahaw said:
install move to SD first then choose the option Exteral SD.Anything you install from now on will be installed to the SDCARD but aware the widgets and programs that require root doesn't work well in the SDCARD together with home replacement program.Unless of course the app itself support installing to SD.
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this is what he did. But not everything will be saved to SD. This is the what he says.
nastyba said:
this is what he did. But not everything will be saved to SD. This is the what he says.
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Yeah, the APK file, that is the main package, is installed on the SD card. However, all the data that the application actually saves are usually on the internal device memory.
I have enabled Move to SD and set the install path to external, but it will still save application data on the phone memory. That is how Android is designed to work
banahaw said:
install move to SD first then choose the option Exteral SD.Anything you install from now on will be installed to the SDCARD but aware the widgets and programs that require root doesn't work well in the SDCARD together with home replacement program.Unless of course the app itself support installing to SD.
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Oh yes, I'm aware of all this. But still wanted to mention the point that the internal memory will always get used..
addicted2088 said:
Oh yes, I'm aware of all this. But still wanted to mention the point that the internal memory will always get used..
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you can extend your internal storage with your SD card, but you need to create ext2 partition on your SD card first and then <i>and this is the problem</i> explain to your i5800 to use this partion on SD card.
I've red many articles about it on HTC / SE phones where this method work. They say that the ROM must be customized, which haven't been done yet with our phone. The problem is, that the good programmers have Desire / or SGS and they do not care about the i5800
nastyba said:
you can extend your internal storage with your SD card, but you need to create ext2 partition on your SD card first
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And this is where the problem starts: The i5800 cannot handle ext2, at least not with its stock roms. You're stuck with an exotic proprietary file system (rfs) for which no tools are available.
mizch said:
And this is where the problem starts: The i5800 cannot handle ext2, at least not with its stock roms. You're stuck with an exotic proprietary file system (rfs) for which no tools are available.
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may be one day there will be a custom rom which will allows it
nastyba said:
may be one day there will be a custom rom which will allows it
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mizch said:
And this is where the problem starts: The i5800 cannot handle ext2, at least not with its stock roms. You're stuck with an exotic proprietary file system (rfs) for which no tools are available.
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Is this problem allready solved?
Because my bro has problems with the little internal space.
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Is this problem allready solved?
Because my bro has problems with the little internal space.
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Yes. For that you need to first flash a fugumod kernel. Then you can use Kyrillos' apptosd script from here. You need to use apptosd script v3 if you want your /data/data to be transferred to your SD. But script v3 works good only with class 6 SD card or higher.
Oh yes. You need to convert your data partition to ext4 and create an ext4 partition in SD card also.
ok formating...
seems that i have here a class 4 sd card 8gb... damn it!
I am currently on Kyrillos 6.1. If i create an EXT4 partition in my SD card, via CWM recovery, how can i move the apps which are already installed in my phone memory to that partition? Like if i use Titanium backup, then would moving the apps would go to FAT partition or the newly created EXT4 partition?
mrn123 said:
I am currently on Kyrillos 6.1. If i create an EXT4 partition in my SD card, via CWM recovery, how can i move the apps which are already installed in my phone memory to that partition? Like if i use Titanium backup, then would moving the apps would go to FAT partition or the newly created EXT4 partition?
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First backup your apps using titanuim backup. It will get backed up in SD card. Then copy the backed up apps and the rest of the stuff in your SD card to your PC. Then goto recovery, advanced, partition SD card. Create the required partitions. All data in SD card will be erased. Then in recovery only, wipe data. Then reboot. After that all the apps which you install will goto the ext partition that you created.
Thanks Dhiren!!! I was just wondering whether there was any way to directly move the apps to the EXT4 partition which are already installed on phone memory..I shall try out as you said...
Hi, i am very new here and ilack some of the basic info. so i have couples of questions. thanks very much for your answers.
1. what is the internal memory of the htc hd2? and when you partition your sd to fat32 and ext3, will the internal memory be the sum of the ext3 and the phone internal storage?
2. when you want to flash your hd2 with a new rom. do you need to format both partitions of your sd card (fat32 and ext3)
3. when i tried the latest ultimate droid rom, i saw the author posted the rom and another thing called the layout (3.0.2.4_magldr_150M_partitionLayout_30M_cache). what does this do?
4. how do you make the phone to move or install apps in the ext3. and how do you back up those data and apps in the ext3?
and again, thanks guys for helping me out.
1 internal memory, do you mean what's available after a flash? 260 Meg or so with the small cm7 roms (typhoon for example)
No, the internal memory wont show the sum of internal plus ext BUT it will work as if it is. Say you install a 20meg program, internal mem goes down 20 but back up 20 after a restart.
2 no, when you perform the wipes through cwm it takes care of the ext partition and the .android folder on the fat32 for you.
Some apps may put data on the fat32, in which case you can delete those if you want or if you have isues.
3 the layout (clockworkmod, or cwm) sets up the various partitions on your nand (internal) memory, boot, system,cache,data. Without the layout there would be nowhere for the rom to flash into.
The main point of interest in cwm is the system partition size, big roms need big system partitions, sense roms for ex. need 250meg or more, typhoon needs 130. Flash a big rom to small layout fails, small rom on big layout wasted space.
4 you don't, if the rom says ap2sd enabled or words to that effect, it does it automatically. You can test this by loading up some apps then browsing the SD card on a Linux PC
When you run backups and such, it just does it, the phone has no idea that some of the info is on the SD, it treats it as internal.
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Say you install a 20meg program, internal mem goes down 20 but back up 20 after a restart.
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i dont understand why is that? so if the rom is apps2sd supported, it will automatically install apps to ext3. then it makes sense to me that the mem goes down, but then why it goes back up???
Example, 250meg internal plus 1gig ext partition.
internal memory shows as 250meg,, install 20 Meg app which goes to ext partition BUT the system displays internal mem as 230, , you reboot the phone and check again and internal memory shows as 250 again.
oh, thanks alot, i get it. but which backup solution is the best? and how does backup using clockworldmod work? does it make a backup file to sd card?
ljaypham said:
oh, thanks alot, i get it. but which backup solution is the best? and how does backup using clockworldmod work? does it make a backup file to sd card?
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Hi,
It depends what you want to back up.CWM backup will take a snapshot of your entire ROM system,data,settings,everything.A bit like a ghost image of a drive on your PC.
This way, if you install a new ROM and there is a problem,or you don't like it,you can RESTORE your original ROM and everything is back the way it was before.
CWM backup saves to the sd card.
If you just want to backup data,use something like Titanium Backup.
hello..
1. i'm noob...
2. i put Android to my HD2. ok...
Problems... Low Memory on my phone after a few instalations.
i make one partition ext3 on my SD.
My problem is that partition never seen by software...
When i try to put commands on the terminal, at "su" command i see the next message: "Permission denied"...
In the ROM MANAGER 4.3.2.3. when i try to partition SD card , when i try to install ClockwordMod Recovery , i choose the HD2 model and on my phone appear "An error ocurred while attempting to run privileged commands!"
PLS HELP!!!! My sd card in a 16Gb, class 10.
Only i needed is space for a new programs on my phone...
I send you a beer if you can help me (special pentru cei din Bucuresti eventual...).
sorincristian said:
When i try to put commands on the terminal, at "su" command i see the next message: "Permission denied"...
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maybe you have used a rom without root permission. make sure that your rom supports app2sd. Secondly partition your sd card with the help of gparted livecd or you can use the AD recovery's build-in tools to partition your sd card. then flash a rom supporting app2sd. here cm7 recommded,the extra space will be recognized automatically. if you use miui rom, pls make sure that your partition format is ext3. after flashing miui, open terminal-1.su-2.a2sd reinstall-3.reboot automatically-4.open terminal again-5.su-6.a2sd zipalign-7.a2sd cachesd-8.reboot automatically-9.just install whatever you want.
elvis1988 said:
maybe you have used a rom without root permission. make sure that your rom supports app2sd. Secondly partition your sd card with the help of gparted livecd or you can use the AD recovery's build-in tools to partition your sd card. then flash a rom supporting app2sd. here cm7 recommded,the extra space will be recognized automatically. if you use miui rom, pls make sure that your partition format is ext3. after flashing miui, open terminal-1.su-2.a2sd reinstall-3.reboot automatically-4.open terminal again-5.su-6.a2sd zipalign-7.a2sd cachesd-8.reboot automatically-9.just install whatever you want.
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In QUICK INFORMATON INFO write:
sd card storage..... free 11 gb
A2SD storage 22 mb free
internal storage 40 mb free
system storage 18 mb free...
i don't understand something...
Yes.. it's a based MIUI ROM instaled
I can't use the terminal... i haven't permissions... read my first message...
"after flashing miui" - what do you recommand?
does it the miui rom you are using support app2sd ? and you haven't downloaded app2sd+ from market, if so id get a rom that supports app2sd, then id recommend downloading THIS to fully format your sd card, and would also recommend using THIS to partition your sd card Ext3/4 depending on rom...
sorincristian said:
In QUICK INFORMATON INFO write:
sd card storage..... free 11 gb
A2SD storage 22 mb free
internal storage 40 mb free
system storage 18 mb free...
i don't understand something...
Yes.. it's a based MIUI ROM instaled
I can't use the terminal... i haven't permissions... read my first message...
"after flashing miui" - what do you recommand?
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if your rom is app2sd....
you must not have it set up correct make sure you take 1gb (1024) out of your sd card to use for app2sd, take a look at my screen shot at how many apps i have to what internal i have left with typhoon build...
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sorincristian said:
A2SD storage 22 mb free
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This makes me believe that App2sd+ is working, how else is there only 22 mb free? What is the partition size you made?
Things you can do:
Clear Cache of apps
Clear the downloadfile-#.apk in /Cache/ (you need a root explorer to do this)
Backup apps, delete apps, restore apps.
Another thing to do is to start from scratch, reflash your rom, using a backup program to backup your apps. Completly clear caches, and wipe sd card.
DOING THIS WILL WIPE YOUR PHONE AND LOSE ALL SETTINGS
Rommanager is only available for cLK, make sure you have cLK, or phone will boot-loop.
Eelkede said:
This makes me believe that App2sd+ is working, how else is there only 22 mb free? What is the partition size you made?
Things you can do:
Clear Cache of apps
Clear the downloadfile-#.apk in /Cache/ (you need a root explorer to do this)
Backup apps, delete apps, restore apps.
Another thing to do is to start from scratch, reflash your rom, using a backup program to backup your apps. Completly clear caches, and wipe sd card.
DOING THIS WILL WIPE YOUR PHONE AND LOSE ALL SETTINGS
Rommanager is only available for cLK, make sure you have cLK, or phone will boot-loop.
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I think that i don't have luck..
i reinstall the my HD2 with this ROM: DFT_LEO_NAND_Android.rar
Another (new) problem... my Android working good... but i don't see my SD...
I seen that SD only at boot if i boot in "MASS STORAGE"
Do you know what i really understand?
I have enough hours loosed... i need my telephone working...
After searching a lot, I found a tutorial on a forum in English, which I did in my SE X8 and it worked. The idea was to expand the memory as to install a few applications and the phone's internal 128mb I were kids. As for now, the android has X8 2.1 (YES OR must have the 2.1 for this tutorial), which does not support installing programs on SD, we can use link2sd, which creates links to a partition you need to make to SD in order to free internal memory of the phone. It is very stable, and no speed difference on the phone. Yes, it is recommended that memory is of "high speed". The one I have, is 8GB SDHC Class 4. To do this, the phone must be rooted, so we can do it with SuperOneClick or Flashtool. It's easy ....
After this preamble, let the instruction itself:
DO THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK, I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT CAN HAPPEN!
We will need a pair of programs:
Root on phone: SuperOneClick/Flashtool
Free program to partition the SD: Partition Wizard
To manage the applications: Link2SD
Hands:
1 - Root on the Xperia X8 whit SuperOneClick/Flashtool.
2 - Unplug and turn off the phone, then take the SD card, connect it to PC with a memory reader and do a full copy of it to the PC, because you need to format it.
3 - Using partition magic, delete the partition on the card.
4 - Create two partitions, in my case a 7.5-GB and one 500 mg (500 mg advise. Maximum). It is essential that the two partitions are primary. 4a-format the partition in FAT32 largest, where we will put all the backup back, and the girl in EXT2 partition, which should not put anything.
5 - SD copy in the FAT32 partition link2sd.apk in order to install it.
6 - Turn the phone and use a browser to install the link2sd.
7 - Run the link2sd, and we get a message "Root access required", which allow selected access.
8 - link2sd Once inside, select the application you want to move to sd, and select "Create Link".
9 - The application automatically goes to the EXT2 partition.
IMPORTANT!!
- Once you move applications to restart the device before using it - It is possible that applications appear in a different order from the menu. - Applications of the system, unable to move. - In the event the market, tells us that there are applications to update, we go and we choose link2sd MARKET FIX. - When mounting the SD on the PC to copy music or pictures, or whatever, do not touch the ext2 partition, what's more, windows or going to see, can only be read from a PC with Linux.
I think that's all.
Surely, this tutorial also applies to other phone models, use it AT YOUR OWN RISK!!
Sorry for the bad English. I translated it from Spanish.
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If u are having bootloop problem while using it(happened with me once on stock Rom)
1.Then simlpy pull out SD card & ur phone will start normally.
2.u have to Format & recreate the 2nd partition as shown in above tutorial
3.uninstall & again install(not reinstall) link2sd
4.& u are done...
Cheers
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itz useful..
Mistev said:
After searching a lot, I found a tutorial on a forum in English, which I did in my SE X8 and it worked. The idea was to expand the memory as to install a few applications and the phone's internal 128mb I were kids. As for now, the android has X8 2.1 (YES OR must have the 2.1 for this tutorial), which does not support installing programs on SD, we can use link2sd, which creates links to a partition you need to make to SD in order to free internal memory of the phone. It is very stable, and no speed difference on the phone. Yes, it is recommended that memory is of "high speed". The one I have, is 8GB SDHC Class 4. To do this, the phone must be rooted, so we can do it with SuperOneClick or Flashtool. It's easy ....
After this preamble, let the instruction itself:
DO THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK, I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT CAN HAPPEN!
We will need a pair of programs:
Root on phone: SuperOneClick/Flashtool
Free program to partition the SD: Partition Wizard
To manage the applications: Link2SD
Hands:
1 - Root on the Xperia X8 whit SuperOneClick/Flashtool.
2 - Unplug and turn off the phone, then take the SD card, connect it to PC with a memory reader and do a full copy of it to the PC, because you need to format it.
3 - Using partition magic, delete the partition on the card.
4 - Create two partitions, in my case a 7.5-GB and one 500 mg (500 mg advise. Maximum). It is essential that the two partitions are primary. 4a-format the partition in FAT32 largest, where we will put all the backup back, and the girl in EXT2 partition, which should not put anything.
5 - SD copy in the FAT32 partition link2sd.apk in order to install it.
6 - Turn the phone and use a browser to install the link2sd.
7 - Run the link2sd, and we get a message "Root access required", which allow selected access.
8 - link2sd Once inside, select the application you want to move to sd, and select "Create Link".
9 - The application automatically goes to the EXT2 partition.
IMPORTANT!!
- Once you move applications to restart the device before using it - It is possible that applications appear in a different order from the menu. - Applications of the system, unable to move. - In the event the market, tells us that there are applications to update, we go and we choose link2sd MARKET FIX. - When mounting the SD on the PC to copy music or pictures, or whatever, do not touch the ext2 partition, what's more, windows or going to see, can only be read from a PC with Linux.
I think that's all.
Surely, this tutorial also applies to other phone models, use it AT YOUR OWN RISK!!
Sorry for the bad English. I translated it from Spanish.
Sent from my Nexus 10 using Tapatalk 2
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That helps a lot but complicated.Hah
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Mistev your tutorial is very good.
But there is a small problem in using link2sd. It is a good application and is used by a lot of people if they are on the stock 2.1 rom with "no move to SD card" option.But once you have created a partiton and have linked your apps to the SD card then you cannot remove your SD card.If you do you will lose all the apps linked to the SD card.Its the only drawback of this app
good work. thanks
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I have a stable reloaded 500 setup on my cell & do not want to wipe it. I currently have a 16 gig SD where all of the apps are stored. I want to install a 64gig SD card without having to wipe & move everything to it. What is the easiest way to do this? I tried copying everything from the 16 gig SD card to the 64 then I installed the 64 but a lot of things were missing, mainly the apps. So Im not sure how to get all the apps and everything currently on the phone to the 64 gig sd card. Thanks for the help!
Not sure if your plan will work or not, but you might just need to run a2sd reinstall and see if your apps come back.
Just a guess here, but it's possible a2sd needs to see hidden files that set certain a2sd "flags". Sometimes when you copy files via drag and drop you miss hidden files (ie files whose filenames begin with a " . " ).
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How do I run a2SD re install? Can I just backup all my apps to titanium then wipe a2sd and jus setup a new a2sd on the 64gig sd card? I just want to get around wiping the ROM since its been solid for over a year. Also, if you setup a2SD does all apps go to there section of the SD and not internal storage on cell? I notice that whenever I install an APP some space is still taken up on internal storage...I appreciate the response!
well, before we cover all the other questions, let me just focus on the first one.
if you did this :
I tried copying everything from the 16 gig SD card to the 64 then I installed the 64 but a lot of things were missing, mainly the apps.
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then just try the following additional step:
- launch terminal emulator (hopefully this is not one of the missing apps)
- enter the " su " command first
- then enter the command " a2sd reinstall "
after phone reboots do you see your apps?
A couple of things. Firstly before you try and use a 64GB Micro SD Card on an OG EVO you must first make sure it is formatted correctly. Otherwise it will not work properly, if at all. The second thing is, if your going to run A2SD. You must partition your SD card first.
I did format. The phone read it perfectly. But I dont want to have to wipe. Just transfer what is on my a2SD parition & move everything from the 16 gig SD to the 64gig SD & also whatever is on internal to stay there.
Pivo187 said:
I did format. The phone read it perfectly. But I dont want to have to wipe. Just transfer what is on my a2SD parition & move everything from the 16 gig SD to the 64gig SD & also whatever is on internal to stay there.
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Did you partition the 64GB card for a2sd? What don't you want to have to wipe?
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I dont want to have to wipe the ROM & reinstall the ROM and all the apps I have on a2SD currently. Or I cannot avoid that?