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[Q] Hows the screen?

I know its pixel density, and its just perfect to me. However, how is the color saturation and other aspects of the display? Ive read a couple of reviews that said it was a bit dull, but I don't totally believe these big tech blog reviews. If it is dull though, is there anything in the way of color calibration?

I think the colors are great. Of course, it's not an AMOLED, but it gets the job done.
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GeneralCrocket said:
I think the colors are great. Of course, it's not an AMOLED, but it gets the job done.
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Exactly. Compared it to the S3, and yeah, not an AMOLED. But the screen does not bother me
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Lol its got nothing on a Samoled but its definetly not bad, unless you get one that has a warm tone to it. My last c60 replacement had a warm screen, current c70 has a cooler screen and colors look natural as oposed to the bluer and more saturated samoled that im used to on the GNex. There is no color calibration as of yet.

Ok, that pretty much was the only thing holding me back from buying one, but not anymore Probably wont need it, but will we probably get some kind of screen calibration eventually? I just like tweaking things.
Edit: I saw that you mentioned something about the c70 version with the warm colors. Which version is the best one to get?

Is there a realistic chance ASUS will fix the color calibration on the Nexus 7?

I sold my 16 gb and bought a 32 gb Nexus 7 last Saturday, and unlike my 16gb one, which had pretty bad screen separation, the 32 gb one is perfect outside of the display colors. Everything has a blue tint to it and it's bugging the hell out of me because my last one did not have it.
I went to Office Depot to look at their display tablets today and the two Nexus 7 they had up the had same hue along with an Asus Transformer tablet. Seeing that Transformer has been out way longer and has the same type of screen problem, is it realistic to think that Asus can or will make any adjustments to the Nexus 7's display?

clusterchuck said:
I sold my 16 gb and bought a 32 gb Nexus 7 last Saturday, and unlike my 16gb one, which had pretty bad screen separation, the 32 gb one is perfect outside of the display colors. Everything has a blue tint to it and it's bugging the hell out of me because my last one did not have it.
I went to Office Depot to look at their display tablets today and the two Nexus 7 they had up the had same hue along with an Asus Transformer tablet. Seeing that Transformer has been out way longer and has the same type of screen problem, is it realistic to think that Asus can or will make any adjustments to the Nexus 7's display?
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You can do it yourself..
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.widgets.big.tegra.prism.toggle
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kilometers4 said:
You can do it yourself..
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.widgets.big.tegra.prism.toggle
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Is there a free app that does it? Or do I have to shell out $2?

kilometers4 said:
You can do it yourself..
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.widgets.big.tegra.prism.toggle
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Seems that the issue that the app resolves is somewhat separate from mine. It addresses washed colors after watching videos. My colors are that way all the time on this Nexus lol.

You know what, I keep asking myself the same thing pretty much
I returned my 16gb for a 32gb... and I keep thinking that the 16gb had noticeably better screen quality. I keep telling myself that it's placebo, that I'm tripping.. I just have this distinct feeling that something is very different and not for the better... I don't know, would have to have more people.

Not seeing any problems here.
But then I haven't been brainwashed into looking for problems that don't really exist.
Would have even noticed anything, unless you came here?

I dont think asus will ever fix it.
Disable Prism doesnt fix colors. It just fixes the Problem with darkened display after watching a Video.

How bad is it, I'm toiling with purchasing one of these tabs?
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you will notice washed out colors especially when you compare it to ipad3 directly.

CrazyPeter said:
Not seeing any problems here.
But then I haven't been brainwashed into looking for problems that don't really exist.
Would have even noticed anything, unless you came here?
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I thought there was a problem with colours on my girlfriend's Nexus 7 as soon as I saw it.
I hadn't read about this problem anywhere nor been to this forum before.

CrazyPeter said:
Not seeing any problems here.
But then I haven't been brainwashed into looking for problems that don't really exist.
Would have even noticed anything, unless you came here?
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Yes . If I wouldn't have came here and never bought the 16gb Version, I would have still thought the screen looked pretty bad but I wouldn't have thought there was a potential fix. I probably will end up rolling the dice and taking it back if I can't get used to it, something that I really do not want to do.

dannysmith43 said:
How bad is it, I'm toiling with purchasing one of these tabs?
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Just look at my attachment, the 32 gb is on the left.

I work in color profiles all day long. The first day out of the box I noticed a lousy tungsten blue hue. Think color temperature levels like warm and cold (or cool). This is adjusted like a cool setting but far more.
I'm really surprised this is not a bigger deal for users. On day one I was not too worried because I thought our awesome dev community would be all over it. But, I guess only some of us notice, and it really seems to be a low issue in general.. unfortunately.
know for sure if I get a N10 it will be way better. Samsung's screens are awesome and if anything they come with exaggerated screen settings..
Thanks for the thread.

Is there a good screen replacement for the Nexus 7 that would fix this issue?

The screen wash out is real. I was very skeptical reading about it since my 16 from Walmart was perfect out of the box. I decided to upgrade to the 32 and only office depot had it. Well when I opened and turned it on, I knew something was wrong. The colors were over bright causing a wash out.
The unit on the left is the 16, on the right, the 32. Both running same rom and kernel. This picture was taken on auto brightness sitting side by side but tests were done on various light levels, including max and areas around the house. Tests were done by my husband too, so its not just me.
16 is a C8O, the defective one was CAO and the replacement that I got is C9O and looks much more like the 16.
I would hope that Asus will fix this problem but if it's been this long, I'm more in doubt.
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Vertical banding lines

Has anyone notice the vertical lines especially on gray backgrounds like the notification pull down?
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Yup. Easily noticeable if you put the phone on full brightness and drag down the pulldown menu.
My S2 had it much worse tho, was hoping it wouldn't happen with this phone. I guess all phone LCDs are like that?
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Girn said:
Yup. Easily noticeable if you put the phone on full brightness and drag down the pulldown menu.
My S2 had it much worse tho, was hoping it wouldn't happen with this phone. I guess all phone LCDs are like that?
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Yeah it sucks but I guess its better then blobs and dark black spots all over the screen like in amoled screens
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That's exactly what my s2 had. And yeah it's hardly noticeable if the screen isn't full brightness. I never have it on max anyway, I find it too bright and it ruins the contrast somewhat
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Yuuup I see it.
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Yep I have them as well but never noticed them before. I really had to look hard to see them, and only on full brightness. It's a non-issue for me.

i noticed this too...didn't have it as bad as my other n4 that i had to rma. i actually notice lines and blobs. mostly noticeable on grey backgrounds like jb menus. really hated the blobs on amoled screens but seems like lcd's get it too

One the biggest reasons I am hesitating to upgrade from my S3 is just that, defects... they seem rampant with this phone. I have not a single defect on my S3, and there are no screen oddity's to speak of.

Shenkoa said:
One the biggest reasons I am hesitating to upgrade from my S3 is just that, defects... they seem rampant with this phone. I have not a single defect on my S3, and there are no screen oddity's to speak of.
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You don't have lines or blobs on the s3? It's a amoled screen

I have an iphone 4 for 2 years and don't notice these line, Yet when I first got the Nexus I could see it right away, Looking at my old iphone 4 and no line at all. Most be a lg screen built quality.

Just got my n4 yesterday and it was flawless until earlier tonight while web browsing a vertical line appeared to the far left of the screen it sticks out like a sore thumb against white backgrounds like most web pages.its very irritating and even blinks in and out.I swore I'd never buy lg after the g2x screen disaster but had to its a nexus do I so sold my gs3 yesterday and now I'm stuck with this annoying line.even if I RMA it will take forever to get a new one.

Wait, the IPS+ on the Nexus 4 has vertical banding? I thought that that problem was exclusive to the Super AMOLED HD on the Galaxy Nexus. In fact, I exchanged 3 of them to get one with banding that didn't show on all backgrounds. So as I now understand it, this was not an AMOLED HD problem?
Could it be a software thing? My old Droid X's non-HD LCD never seemed to have these issues. Neither does the SLCD3 screen of the Droid DNA. Very weird.

ceejay83 said:
You don't have lines or blobs on the s3? It's a amoled screen
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Lol, I don't know what you've been reading about amoled screens but they're not as rampant with problems as everyone makes them out to be. I'm I'm my third phone with an amoled panel and they've all been perfect. No yellow tint, no blobs, etc. The only issue I ever encountered was the first s2i had, had a dead pixel. Aside from that they're incredible. Prefer them to any LCD screen personally, and I'm a full times graphics artist )
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MultiLockOn said:
Lol, I don't know what you've been reading about amoled screens but they're not as rampant with problems as everyone makes them out to be. I'm I'm my third phone with an amoled panel and they've all been perfect. No yellow tint, no blobs, etc. The only issue I ever encountered was the first s2i had, had a dead pixel. Aside from that they're incredible. Prefer them to any LCD screen personally, and I'm a full times graphics artist )
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I've had 2 S2 and 2 gnex. They all had lines or blobs

ceejay83 said:
I've had 2 S2 and 2 gnex. They all had lines or blobs
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I've had galaxy s 1,2,3 and gnex and none of them had lines or blobs in fact the only other phone I had screen problems with was also made by lg the g2x I exchanged twice all three had backlight bleeding

I have this too but very low, I have too be looking hard to see them. It's not very anoying but in the JB menu I can see them a little bit ... My last phone amoled was burning ...

I seeeeeeeee them thanks for pointing it out haha never noticed them before >_>
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So, is this normal or not ? I think so, but I'm not sure... Other report ?

I can hardly see them. You guys are really trying to be picky with the phone.
I started to agree with those who say if you don't like it, sell it on eBay.
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wngmv said:
I can hardly see them. You guys are really trying to be picky with the phone.
I started to agree with those who say if you don't like it, sell it on eBay.
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Yeah maybe your right. So i think every body have thèse line but very very hard too sée ? It's not really an issue ?

Are there any non yellow N7 3g screens out there

I have had a 16gb N7 for several months and have just purchased a 32gb 3g N7
The screen on the new tablet has a distinctive yellow tint and is lacking in definition.
I have read around these forums about yellow/blue tints but was wondering if newer models are now all emerging as yellow or whether or not it is still a lottery.
I would especially like to hear from other 3g owners as to their experiences
Cheers
Baz
I have attached a picture of both tablets side by side running at the same brightness, the picture does not show the tint very well but clearly shows the definition issues

Release day 3g here and it's not yellow. The thing seems a hell of a lot better than my old 16g which I got a refund on due to screen lift.

Mine is definitely NOT yellow.

Looks like it's RMA time.
My 16gb looks so crisp compared to my 3g.

Mine is having same yellow tint...do i need to get it replaced or it's a common issue with 3G one?
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I had the same problem with my iPhone and Apple's reply was that they use different manufacturers so some times things vary from one manufacturer to another and there's nothing they can do since there's nothing really wrong with the device. I'm sure it's the same time case with Google.
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abhi0304 said:
Mine is having same yellow tint...do i need to get it replaced or it's a common issue with 3G one?
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This is what I am trying to ascertain, I have tried to accept it they way it is but every time I use it the colours look too yellowy and bloom. I have compared to my N4 & old N7 and the difference is like night and day.

Mine looks pretty good. The colours are softer than my Galaxy Nexus but that is to be expected because Super AMOLED tends towards the blues and has overblown colour contrast.

My 3G is certainly yellow when put alongside my original N7 16GB. The screen seems to lack the 'bite' of the older device.
I've posted a seperate thread trying to find out if the newer non-3G 32GBs have the same problem. I may return and opt for a 32GB with a MiFi.

Just got my replacement from google, not yellow this time....but has one stuck pixel.
Trying dead pixel apps in the hope it will resolve.

I have an N7 3G I ordered on release day and it has no screens issues at all (no yellow tint or lifting).

RMA number 2:crying:

Whites have a yellowish tint?

First of all, I love this tablet. The only complaint that I have is that compared to my 2 previous 2012 Nexus 7s (now sold) and my Nexus 4, the new Nexus 7 I just received yesterday has a rather different color temperature. Whites aren't white -- instead, it has a yellowish tint to it.
Are any of you guys experiencing this, or is this just an LCD panel lottery that I lost? I'm wondering if I should swap this one out at Staples, return it and wait for the next batch, or if this is a normal characteristic of the JDI panels used in the 2013 Nexus 7?
This is really confusing to me, because in the AnandTech mini review, the 2013 Nexus 7's white point average is 6940K while the original Nexus 7's is 6215K. So my new tablet should have a cooler/more blue color than my old one, but instead it's the opposite and looks warmer/yellow.

mine is like yours so I just think its that way but I prefer it actually

I'm seeing a lot of green wash into whites/browns with mine, and poor black levels (too bright.)
The effect is more pronounced if there's a lot of green in a photo to start with.
I've posted photos comparing what I'm seeing on this device with what I see on a Note 8 in some of the other forum threads on this device.

No the whites are white especially compared to the old N7 which had yellow tint
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openwheelracing said:
No the whites are white especially compared to the old N7 which had yellow tint
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That gives me hope that not all the displays used in the 2013s look like this. I ordered this one online from Staples, so I haven't seen another 2013 in person yet. I guess I'll head to Staples and Best Buy and look at the demo units and compare them to mine.
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Reading the other threads make me nervous about exchanging it now. This one has no dust under the screen, no dead pixels, no random reboots, the wireless charging works fine, etc. Aside from the yellowish screen, it's perfect.

I've seen what you guys are talking about with different Nexus 10s side by side. Had one where white looks like snow and two others beside it piss yellow looking white. I wonder if that's due to sourcing the display from different companies. My 2013 N7 arrives tomorrow so I hope it's not funky.

Just bought mine from my local Best Buy tonight. My screen looks perfectly fine. Also, no random reboots(was on it 4 hours straight), and no dust under the screen. I'll check it out again in the morning, but keeping my fingers crossed that mine is good! I didn't even know there were any issues with them until reading this thread
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Displays ARE different.
Get over it, guys.
With the Sony Xperia Tablet Z, many people also always complain about the display being too yellowish.
Some displays are too bluish, some have a reddish tint (like my prev-gen N7), some greenish (my SGS2), some yellowish (my Tablet Z).
That's how it is. Some people will shout: "But my Samsung has perfect white", bla... But this isn't true, either. Most probably their display will have blue tint, but they are accustomed to it.
If you want perfect colors, you have to buy Apple, and even then you can't be sure.
And now enjoy your Nexus 7,damnit!

I actually have a good screen, no reboots, (haven't tested wireless charging, probably should) but I'm not actually experiencing the yellowish tint. Try to download Dead Pixel Test by Ossibus Software from Google Play (only a 64kb app), launch it, then tap once to get to "pure" white. Post a picture (not a screenshot) of the tablet at that point.
EDIT: I've noticed that the xda app does have a yellow tint, but doing the dead pixel test reveals a pure white. This could just be xda.
-Adam
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yes, its a lottery. i compared 4 units now, all had different (from bad to worse) whites and contrast setting that effect the scroll blur, overall sharpness and black levels. there's definitely green push somewhere that comes of as yellow tinted screen overall depending on other settings of that particular screen or page you're viewing etc. keep on exchanging or wait for kernels with color control if they ever come that is.
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and never go by any review which provide any screen tests and data. they were victims of the lottery too.
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Well, I've got an HTC Desire, and after every reboot, the display gets horribly yellow. Though, turning screen off and on resolves it. Thing is, displays differ from device to device. A friend has a SGS3 with overly cold display, the kind that made my eyse stare at it all the time
Then I look back at my Desire, and it looks yellow. But it goes off after a little time(the yellowish look).
What you should try is to lookat your N7 for longer periods of time, and you'll get accustomed to it

Perfect whites here.

Just wait. Custom kernels will allow you to adjust all of this. With my nexus 4 the colors were not ideal for me, flashed a kernel and choose from the many options of color settings. There will be something for everyone, no matter what colors you prefer.

darkrom said:
Just wait. Custom kernels will allow you to adjust all of this. With my nexus 4 the colors were not ideal for me, flashed a kernel and choose from the many options of color settings. There will be something for everyone, no matter what colors you prefer.
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we don't know that yet. nexus 4 color adjustments on kernel level were possible due to the exposed color controls. somebody needs to confirm if it's even an option with this device.

hasenbein1966 said:
If you want perfect colors, you have to buy Apple, and even then you can't be sure.
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Correct. Even iPad 4s suffer from screen issues. Just Google "ipad 4 yellow screen" and "ipad 4 backlight bleed".

true, ipad screens is just another lottery.
i'm going to borrow this from another thread just to show how Nexus screen looks next to a good screen.

tom289 said:
. . . The only complaint that I have is that compared to my 2 previous 2012 Nexus 7s (now sold) and my Nexus 4, the new Nexus 7 I just received yesterday has a rather different color temperature. Whites aren't white -- instead, it has a yellowish tint to it . . .
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Definitely different white than my original Nexus 7. First thing I did was open Kindle in both, because I wanted to compare font sharpness, and I was struck by 2013 Nexus 7 looking yellowish compared to original, and thought I much preferred the softer look of the white on the original. Now, however, after using the new 2013 model for 2 days, when I compare the two, the new one seems white and the old one seems pinkish! So I think perception changes with use and familiarity.
I had far more noticeable white balance issues with Galaxy S3, and there was also a noticeable difference in white balance between Galaxy Note GT-N7000 and the AT&T LTE version.

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What you should try is to lookat your N7 for longer periods of time, and you'll get accustomed to it
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I can't get used to it -- I have really low tolerance for this stuff. Especially since my Nexus 4 screen has good whites, and I'm sometimes switching back and forth between the devices. Or the 3 monitors on my desk that have excellent whites. It's too jarring.
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i'm going to borrow this from another thread just to show how Nexus screen looks next to a good screen.
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Exactly like that.
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Definitely different white than my original Nexus 7. First thing I did was open Kindle in both, because I wanted to compare font sharpness, and I was struck by 2013 Nexus 7 looking yellowish compared to original, and thought I much preferred the softer look of the white on the original. Now, however, after using the new 2013 model for 2 days, when I compare the two, the new one seems white and the old one seems pinkish! So I think perception changes with use and familiarity.
I had far more noticeable white balance issues with Galaxy S3, and there was also a noticeable difference in white balance between Galaxy Note GT-N7000 and the AT&T LTE version.
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I won't even get started on AMOLED screens on my past Galaxies lol
Thinking back, my very first Nexus 4 had very pure whites. My current Nexus 4 is more yellow than that the first one. So for the Nexus 7 to appear yellow to my Nexus 4, it's got to be really bad.

Just to give an update...
I decided to order one from Amazon yesterday instead of exchanging the Staples one. I figured that buying from a different retailer would increase my chances of getting a different batch.
The old one from Staples was made in June 2013, while the new one from Amazon was made in July 2013.
Overall the screen looks much less yellow than my old one! So yes, LCD display lottery

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thanks!
would you be able to provide some side by side shots by any chance?