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[Q] Experience of reading books on transformer

Hi
I am confused...
I just spent a day with the iPad2 and a Galaxy Tab (the first edition) have to say I was very impressed with reading PDF books from the iPad but not so much from the Galaxy which is running 2.2
I am Android through and through and want to stick with an Android but want the experience I had with the iPad2 when it comes to reading ebooks from it.
I have been looking around and the Asus Transformer looks impressive with a decent price.... I also know it has Honeycomb as I understand its more tailored for tablets than the previous versions and the experience is far better. Much better than what I have used with 2.2. One thing from my research that lets Android down is there are not many apps which are tablet ready but slowly this will come.... That's not too much of an issue for me as my primary use will be ebook reading and internet use.
I dont see the point in buying just an ebook reader, for a few extra hundred I can get something which will offer a lot more and features that I would make use off.
If anyone uses the transformer as a book reader. What are you thoughts?? Is the experience good. I held one the other day in a shop and it felt initially quite bulky but I suppose I could get used to that....
Thanks

I bought the transformer to use it as an ebook reader, and i can tell you its really good.
there are some very nice ebook reading programs like the stock mylibrary which is basically like iBooks, and there is aldiko which i highly reccomand, because you can set text size, color and marging and page color etc. to make the reading comfortable.
i read a few books from it and with the right brightness/color setting it wont hurt your eyes too much or something like this. the text is crisp and nice and reading is in general a pleasant experience from the transformer screen.

I've been using the kindle reader. Great for reading 4 books so far. And quick to get new books. Have it on my desire HD too so I can put the eee pad down go out and read a few pages while out and about.
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I agree im currently writing an ebook and tested out various formats on various apps on the TF overall quite a good experience when reading

I settled on Moon+ reader, so far I have had no issues.

If you want to read e-books, then do not buy this product. IPS panel is not intended for reading but the comic is a nice read. If you want to read, then buy an electronic book reader.
Try for example, to read for several hours on a computer screen. It is not easy (eyes will to hurt).

It's definitely nice as a book reader. I finished the entire Storm of Swords book on this one,so I can vouch for its useability
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Truthfully it is not a great ereader. The form factor is good for magazine and PDF but not for books. Also very reflective in bright light and not dim enough in darkness.
What was wrong with original galaxy tab?
My nook color is my default reader over my transformer as its screen while same tech has higher contrast less glare and can get it darker for night reading.
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Count me in the group confirming that it's great for eBooks. I use Google's own Books app, and am currently reading my fourth entire novel on the Transformer. The screen dims enough to be comfortable for me even with white pages in a completely dark room, but is bright enough to read basically anywhere I'd be comfortable trying to read in the first place. No, it's not *quite* as easy on the eye as a dedicated reader, but it also does a whole hell of a lot more, and frankly the page-turning motion in Google's app makes it feel more like a book than the dedicated readers do to me.
Just so you know I've got enough experience to know what I'm talking about, here's what I've read on the Transformer, in order. They're all paperback versions, based on the ISBN numbers. All of these were read for the first time, so I didn't skim them, I read them properly:
* Terry Jones: Douglas Adams' Starship Titanic (257 pages, I'm an old-school Douglas Adams fan who finally decided I should give the novelization of his game a try.)
* Tom Clancy: The Hunt for Red October (499 pages, been meaning to read Clancy for years and never got around to it. Was happy with my first eBook experience, so gave it a try.)
* Tom Clancy: Red Storm Rising (637 pages, liked my first Clancy experience, so stuck with it.)
* Tom Clancy: Patriot Games (518 pages, I'm currently about 200 pages in, accounting for the differences in page numbering because the books reflow to fit the screen orientation / selected font size and spacing.)
So in total, I've read almost 1,600 paperback pages on the Transformer since May 4th -- and all of the Clancy was within the last month (I was on an overseas vacation for the Jones book, so read it much more slowly.) That means I average about 50 paperback pages per day on the Transformer since returning from my trip, which I couldn't do if it wasn't comfortable.

I thought it may help what my usage will be for reading books on a Transformer.
I am an IT professional and do a lot of self training reading IT reference books (majority in PDF form) and I use a my PC to actually do the tasks mentioned in the book.
if you can imagine I will have the transformer on stand of some sort and will referring back and forth to the transformer for reading the book or notes....
Does that make sense??
I don't intend to be reading novels but mainly for research and training guides..and this won't be on a daily basis either..
Thanks

PatrikSelin said:
If you want to read e-books, then do not buy this product. IPS panel is not intended for reading but the comic is a nice read. If you want to read, then buy an electronic book reader.
Try for example, to read for several hours on a computer screen. It is not easy (eyes will to hurt).
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I think this is a bit misleading. ANY device with any kind of LCD panel won't be as comfortable for longer reading sessions as an e-Ink reader. It also won't be as good in direct sunlight. That's not an indictment of the TF itself, which is excellent as an ebook reader compared with other tablets of similar size (and the few ounces difference of, say, the iPad 2 or GT 10.1 won't stop one from wanting to prop it on something after awhile).
I have a Nook 3G reader, and I do prefer to read on it for longer sessions and when I have sufficient light (because of course it has no backlighting). I also use the Nook for reading late at night, because theory says it's best to avoid emissive screens like tablets, notebooks, TVs, etc. right before going to sleep.
Another good use for the TF is if you're reading books that you need to annotate. Works great in the Nook app (and Kindle, for that matter), and notes and highlights sync to other devices.
So, in short, the TF's as good as any other 10.1" or so tablet, and better than a few because the IPS screen allows for more flexible viewing angles.

ranjb said:
if you can imagine I will have the transformer on stand of some sort and will referring back and forth to the transformer for reading the book or notes....
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Ah! Pretty much the perfect way to use the TF as an ereader. I wanted to point out what size of books you would be holding with different devices, but if the plan isn't to actually hold the TF.... well, awesome
Still, I took a picture:
http://i54.tinypic.com/210f4hu.jpg
Those are a 2nd generation Kindle, a 7" Galaxy Tab, and obviously a Transformer. The books behind have (roughly) the same weight as the device in front of them. There is an audio cd to compare size. The Kindle is 294 grams, the Galaxy Tab 382 and the Asus 695.
That said, the Kindle sucks for anything that isn't an ebook, especially PDFs

For novels eink readers are your best bet. For graphic novels or textbook you can't go wrong with a tablet. It should be worth noting eink readers of 5in and bigger can be used to read black and white comic by using epubbuilder and importing each image as a standalone chapter in epub format.
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frosty5689 said:
It should be worth noting eink readers of 5in and bigger can be used to read black and white comic by using epubbuilder and importing each image as a standalone chapter in epub format.
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Didn't know that. However, this is what i know http://foosoft.net/mangle/ the Kindle can read images and that software is made for the exact purpose of optimizing them so to read manga/comics very easily.
Still, the Kindle is a trainwreck with PDFs that aren't just an image or just text, so it dosen't really help the OP.

I spent about six hours yesterday reading a book using the kindle app and I was pretty pleased with it.

Canadoc said:
not dim enough in darkness.
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I use Screen Filter to make my screen dimmer when reading in darkness.

ranjb said:
I am an IT professional and do a lot of self training reading IT reference books (majority in PDF form) and I use a my PC to actually do the tasks mentioned in the book.
if you can imagine I will have the transformer on stand of some sort and will referring back and forth to the transformer for reading the book or notes...
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I'd say it'd be great for that. Adobe's PDF viewer is free and fast / stable for me, if you're working on a PC LCD then having a similar tech on the tablet would be a positive advantage (set similar brightness and your eyes don't need to adjust looking back and forth, unlike an eReader screen). Only potential issue is reflections from bright office lights, depending on the environment where you're planning to use it, although if you have a good adjustable stand you can affix the tab to, that's easily solved (and if I can use the tab outdoors in bright ambient light, which I can, I'm sure anything indoors is workable.)

It's great for reading books, Kindle app is the same as on iPad. Brightness can be dim enough to not affect wife sleeping next to me, especially on Sepia background.
All ebook readers on the iPad are available for Andriod, just pick one you like. Due to competing formats, you may end up with three ore more, depending where you buy books or download epubs/pdfs.
The only thing I would ever replace this with is a Kindle DX, but who wants to pay that much for a tech toy that does only one thing? For the same price, I have a full blown tablet running Andriod OS.
It of course will not be as easy on the eyes as e-ink technology, nor look good in bright sunlight. Then again, who reads in bright sun? That's why we have trees!

Iconia as an eReader

Anyone here use the Iconia as an eReader (among other things)? I was thinking of getting the Nook Color since I need a reader, but since with the Target deal this is only 50 dollars more expensive, the Iconia suddenly became tempting. I'm worried about the size and weight though. Is it easy to read for 1-2 hours straight? I tried one at BB and after 15-20 minutes it was still OK, but I wonder if it isn't too heavy/awkward to read on.
Please post your experiences about using eReaders on the Iconia

I've read a couple of books on mine, they were purchased through google market and read with google books. I enjoyed using it this way and will do so in the future. As far as weight goes, the tab isn't any heavier than a good sized hard back book. I use the acer cover which has a built in stand so that helps with the weight as well.
The big question is how your eyes hold up to the lcd screen. The eink displays cause much less eye strain and are fully viewable in sunlight, the tabs screen will definitely give some eye strain if used for hours on end, and will be less visible in sun light.
Edit: the nook color is an lcd screen as well.
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harveydent said:
Anyone here use the Iconia as an eReader (among other things)? I was thinking of getting the Nook Color since I need a reader, but since with the Target deal this is only 50 dollars more expensive, the Iconia suddenly became tempting. I'm worried about the size and weight though. Is it easy to read for 1-2 hours straight? I tried one at BB and after 15-20 minutes it was still OK, but I wonder if it isn't too heavy/awkward to read on.
Please post your experiences about using eReaders on the Iconia
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That's WHOLLY dependant on personal taste. I do not find it too heavy even for 4-5 hour reading session, I often have such streaks when I'm reading stuff, but I also know many other people who would find to bit too heavy.
One thing that would make it better as primarily an eReader though would be non-slippery back, like for example gluing a really thin sheet of porous gum on it. It might not look as fancy, but it would be much easier to hold even with one hand.

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From my experience it's wholly unusable in sun light.

Thanks for the replies!
The sunlight glare isn't a concern since ALL LCD tablets have that problem, to varying degrees.
How does it handle pdfs? And any good ereader apps aside from the Amazon/Nook/Google apps?

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How does it handle pdfs? And any good ereader apps aside from the Amazon/Nook/Google apps?
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There's plenty of software for reading PDFs, just try them all and choose the one you like the best
Can't help you with ereader apps though, I don't use those. I am 100% PDF.

It really depends on what you are planing on reading. If it's mostly text based stuff (novels, etc.), an eInk display is the hands down winner. Once you start tossing PDFs and CBRs into the mix then a color LCD tablet becomes a better option.

I have both so I'll chime in.
If you're purchasing a LED Ebook reader then go for Iconia.
But if you're looking for an eInk display then go for it. The battery on Iconia is awsome but even a great battery can't compare to an eInk display.
The other thing is reading in sunlight and eye strain. I love both my ebook and Iconia but I mostly read books on ebook.
Edit: I forgot to mention. If you're into comics or anything that has lots of pictures than stick to a tablet.

I sold my Nook color after I got the a500. I find reading on either to be about the same - however web browsing is much better on the Acer. At first I didn't know if I would like the side by side view while holding the Acer in landscape but it quickly grew on me. I agree if you are considering LCD get the Acer - if you like eink don't consider the Acer.

I have an Iconia and a Kindle3.
While I can read on my tab, the kindle provides a much better reading experience for me. I do get eye strain from my tab in about an hours time- I read on the eink display without any strain at all for hours. The difference is all about the lcd vs. eink. I personally, never considered the weight of either an issue. I must be the only one that rests their book/tab/reader on something while they read our use it. If I read in bed I stand the reader upon my chest. If I'm surfing the internet I rest the tab up on my lap while on the sofa or on the table while sitting. Weight is not an issue for me either way. Ultimately I use the tab for recreational purposes (email, internet, games) and the reader to read. I wouldn't want to give either up.
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I've been using mine to read books on Nook and also Moon+ Reader. It works pretty well, just a tad on the heavy side for me.

Google jetbook lite if you want something portable and 100% readable under full sunlight. I've been using this for years. Works great. The best part of this is it reads just about every ebook format under the sun. Even the highly priced kindle can't do this.

Eye Strain
I can tolerate reading on my Iconia, but I do not like the glare from room lights when I read at night. Weight is not an issue. E books are great. I may eventually buy a Nook or kindle with e ink. However, tablets can do so much more than e readers. I have no regrets about my Iconia purchase.

I have used this, a nook color and a sony reader (eink). I prefer this to the other two. I do a lot for my reading in low light situations, so the eink is kind of a pain in this situation since it needs an external light. The nook color is nice for reading, but I don't like it as much for web and tablet functions. The only reason I still keep the nc around is android can't support nook kids books yet.
I usually use the nook app to read books and get them from barnes and noble. Bn gives away a free book every Friday. And I've been reading a lot of them.
The weight has not been a big issue for me.
Hope this helped
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harveydent said:
Thanks for the replies!
And any good ereader apps aside from the Amazon/Nook/Google apps?
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FBReader is my personal fav + Calibre on the PC to do conversions to epub.

I have an original nook (eink, preiously had a sony ebook) and an iconia. I find the eink displays superior to the iconia for reading ebook formatted files made to reflow, and makes for easier reading in general. The tablet is superior for most pdfs, largely owing t the screen size (as most pdfs as formatted for 8.5"x11").

I had question regarding this actually. I'm trying to collate all the ebooks ive downloaded from various sources into one app I can use for reading (i was thinking lumiread). I was wondering if there is a way to do this for books downloaded from the borders australia android app. specifically, in which directory would the books be located so I can read them in lumiread

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I had question regarding this actually. I'm trying to collate all the ebooks ive downloaded from various sources into one app I can use for reading (i was thinking lumiread). I was wondering if there is a way to do this for books downloaded from the borders australia android app. specifically, in which directory would the books be located so I can read them in lumiread
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I believe lumiread is one of the readers that lets you go into settings and choose what folders to scan for ebooks, AND you can exclude folders, which is really nice.
In terms of features and how they perform, Lumiread is one of my favorite readers.
Nook would be #2 and Kindle #3.
They all are similar. Lumiread has the eye candy presentation of your "books" on shelves like the ipad, but that's all personal taste of course.
To answer the ops question, its a great ereader. Eink is still better for strictly reading ebooks at long sessions, but the iconia is a great option if you are looking for an LCD device. I find the trade off between weight a very viable option because of everything else it can do.
Acer is coming out with a 7" tablet soon, so if weight is a HUGE factor for you, you could go for that. If you go with a Kindle, you are stuck with Amazon books only tho, you can't sideload books yourself.
There are also some great news reader apps on Android and they make magazines and newspapers unbelievably AWESOME if you are looking for other things to read.
Hope all this helps. I have about 200 books on mine.

It sounds like a plan, but if you are a hard core reader its not a good one
Yes of course there are some fantastic apps out there for reading via the iconia, and they look (and sound) fantastic, but at the end of the day the iconia or any other tablet is NOT an ereader.
As for the nook, again it is abit in-between, with that colour screen etc.
In short, I have a kindle. It looks rubbish, is grey scale and can do nothin but show text!
But thers's the trick. Read inside or outside, it is light, you can put your own downloaded books on to it, there is a hack to put your own cover/screen/personalise it. It is very light, can play mp3 externally or via headphones while you read and off-course last but not least - 30 days of CONTINUOUS READING without recharge!!! Now that is an ereader right there.
A kindle and a samsung galacy 10.1 (or an iconia wearing galaxy brains rom) and you are good to go.
Now you can show your missus this post and you will have a good excuse to let her know that you actually need both
Enjoy
MJ-12

MJ-12 said:
and can do nothin but show text!
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That's something why I could never use one of those devices: I read a lot of technical books that require the ability to show images. Oh, and yes, I do read comics and manga too

[Q] 7.7 as eReader

Hello to all, Im Xan and this is my first post
Id like to ask those o you who are already 7.7 owners how good the tablet is as an eReader.
how good the reading app included is? (I've watched some promo vids and it seemed a little laggy)
I think it has a "night" mode where the background turns black and the text is in white. Is it pitch black or just dark ? i mean, does that black gives some light?
Im a happy kindle owner but it has obvious limitations..since its not a tablet.
Tablets are good for a lot of things but almost all them use screen technology not suitable for reading
(so far the pixel Qi and mirasol tablets in the market have been a dissapointment)
This is the first tablet with a Samoled screen...thats why im asking how good it is as an ereader,
how it treats your eyes during a 90 min reading session? does the night mode makes things better?
Its a lot of money, so if im buying this tablet i want to kwow i can totally replace my kindle.
Thanks for your time

Dear xangroba,
I do not have the samsung 7.7, and I am a junior adviser, but I know the super amoled technology.
An e-ink reader as the kindle and the sony is the best solution to read since are not backlighted, so your eyes are not stressed after one work day with the PC, nightmode is nice but not the solution in my opinion.
Still I think I ll buy this new device because ezpdfreader and repligo are really cool, and manage annotations in a better way, and are continuosly updated.
I strongly suggest you to take both with you, in the end is less than 500 grams to bring around.
If you do not have a tablet samsung 7.7 is amazing in my opinion. No price to play chess, surf the web, annotate documents on the go, every avid reader could love this, epsecially in these "cloud" times

Reading on the 7.7 is fun. I read a lot and tried many ereaders, and this is finally device that meets all my requirements (light, gorgeous screen, fast, easy to hold with one hand ..yet a big screen)
To reduce eye strain I use an app that allows me to set a custom background. I have set it to a particular shade of gray so that the illumination and color corresponds to the color and illumination of light that is reflected by a book or paper.
The night mode is fantastic for reading in the dark. And of course because of the amoled screen it almost uses no battery power.
(Btw no reader app is laggy on this 1.4 ghz processor )

Thanks for the reply.
Can you tell me the name of the app you are talking? (or other similar apps for that matter...that you may know of).
so...can I induce (...ehem...deduce) that the eye strain problem is negligible to nonexistent?
perhaps youre talking about dimming, dimming its something you can do with other tablets, why the reading experience its better with this one?

xangroba said:
Thanks for the reply.
Can you tell me the name of the app you are talking? (or other similar apps for that matter...that you may know of).
so...can I induce that the eye strain problem is negligible to nonexistent?
perhaps youre talking about dimming, dimming its something you can do with other tablets, why the reading experience its better with this one?
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Of course I set the brightness to a minimum. But that's not enough. The problem is the illumination of the background. This can be customized by setting a different background color (if you like induction : set the induction base to black
There are a lot of eReader apps that support custom backgrounds, including the stock ereader. I myself use the Aldiko eReader (but I want to work on one myself. I hate it that no ereader allows to define a "dead spot" where you can hold the tablet... but that's a different story)

I think the way the native ebook app on the 7.7 is kind of crappy. But, Aldiko Pro is awesome, and I've had no eyestrain reading several chapters at a time. Granted, it will not be as good as a Kindle or other e-ink reader, but if you tweak the brightness and fonts to your liking then it is very much usable.

im a barnes and nobel customer so i use the nook app, which works just fine. with a black background and the brightness all the way down its a joy.
black on a super amoled screen is ... actually black

I'd like to use one as a reader too, should I worry about the burn in effect?

Has anyone seen any videos of Kindle app running on the 7.7?
Looking at getting this to use for Kindle rather than my Nexus and just want to see they difference it makes on the slightly larger screen
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Has anyone seen any videos of Kindle app running on the 7.7?
Looking at getting this to use for Kindle rather than my Nexus and just want to see they difference it makes on the slightly larger screen
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I use the kindle app on my 7.7. Works quite well.
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dear, if you have problem minimum light too bright.
download app named 'screen filter'
have a nice day
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Theory said:
I use the kindle app on my 7.7. Works quite well.
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I guess it would be no different from what it's like on any other HC tablets, apart from maybe being smoother due to the exynos.
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I guess it would be no different from what it's like on any other HC tablets, apart from maybe being smoother due to the exynos.
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Indeed. In fact, the Kindle app works fine enough on my old Tab (P1000) already. This doesn't seem to be a particularly system intensive piece of software.

How is reading PDF on ezpdf?
Are the text readable when fit to width of page (portrait view)?
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How easy is it to read .pdf and ebook files on this device?

I was thinking of getting an ipad 3 but while at bestbuy and playing with one I realized its still ios and left the store, screen is pretty though. Is this device better? Do you guys find yourself reading more, ebooks etc on this device or not great for that purpose?

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I was thinking of getting an ipad 3 but while at bestbuy and playing with one I realized its still ios and left the store, screen is pretty though. Is this device better? Do you guys find yourself reading more, ebooks etc on this device or not great for that purpose?
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I've read about 2-3 books on the Nexus 7 thus far and it is very easy to read and follow along. The iPad is wonderful for reading. Don't get me wrong I love the iPad. But, it's form factor just isn't for me. It's hard to imagine it as if it were a real book because it's so big. I don't exactly enjoy typing or playing games on it either because of its form factor. The Nexus 7 is a perfect device for those of us with the not-so-big hands that don't like stretching our fingers to type. It's also even better for reading because its size/weight is about the same as todays paperbacks.

I read my studying guide text book on my nexus 7 and I love it. The 7in size is perfect for hand held, weight and size wise and the screen size is still big enough too.

My primary use for the N7 is reading. Tried several other tablets and this one is by far the best. PDFs are not great though; unless the text is condensed in the middle of the page (and your reader autozooms) it's not fun to read either tiny print or scrolling a lot in landscape. But resizable text can't be beat. Get mantano reader.

SysAdmNj said:
I was thinking of getting an ipad 3 but while at bestbuy and playing with one I realized its still ios and left the store, screen is pretty though. Is this device better? Do you guys find yourself reading more, ebooks etc on this device or not great for that purpose?
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I greatly enjoy reading books on the N7. Since I got mine at the end of July, I've re-read almost all the Sherlock Holmes mysteries on it. One thing that helps me with reading books on the N7 (especially at night) is changing the text in whatever app I'm reading in to white text on a black background.
I've played around with quite a few of my friends iPads and from what I've seen, the N7 is better suited for reading, while the iPad is better for watching videos.
Hope that helps.
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I have ES File Explorer installed and was chuffed to find out that it supported PDF when I downloaded the user manual for my new camera. It works really well.
As for ebooks I haven't used any other han the N7 guidebook but the missus is glued to 50 shades of try on hers, so I guess it must work well enough.
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I'm not completely happy with any PDF reader on android. For example, I like to zoom in as much as possible without having to scroll left and right. I often zoom in so that the margins are off screen and text is almost edge-to-edge, but invariably I end up scrolling left or right a bit while trying to scroll vertically. How about an option to lock the horizontal position? I'm much happier reading a native mobi format book in the Kindle reader. Maybe I'm just weird.

The part about the pdf files worry me as I know I have some material I need to read that are in pdf format. Is it really that bad?

I agree with Opcow. Reading PDF's can be a challenge because it doesn't reposition text when you zoom in like an eBook does. So, if you need larger fonts you will have to scroll left and right as well as up and down.
For ebooks though, its awesome. I like it better than the Kindle Fire which I owned for a while. Yet, for long reading sessions, I still use my Kindle Touch...but, I digress...
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It hasn't replaced my kindle, but it is a very suitable size/weight for reading. I'm just not a fan of reading on a backlit display.
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Your mileage will vary with pdf files I think. I tried to read a magazine pdf (lots of graphics as you'd imagine) and it would stutter/freeze for as long as 10 seconds when trying to scroll. I think this was in Aldiko book reader.
And then in Adobe Reader, I read a PDF file that was light on graphics, but Adobe would take a while to render the text clearly after going to next page. It's annoying.

opcow said:
I'm not completely happy with any PDF reader on android. For example, I like to zoom in as much as possible without having to scroll left and right. I often zoom in so that the margins are off screen and text is almost edge-to-edge, but invariably I end up scrolling left or right a bit while trying to scroll vertically. How about an option to lock the horizontal position? I'm much happier reading a native mobi format book in the Kindle reader. Maybe I'm just weird.
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For pdf's Mantano lets you set for each book the R & L margins and the headers & footers. I use calibre on a PC to store, index etc. ebooks It also does some pretty powerful format conversions.

Here's my opinion. If you are going to be reading a lot of PDFs then go for the iPad 3. That screen is awesome. However, I like the 7 inch screen much better for eBooks.

Would you guys think it would be smart to wait for the ipad mini announcement?
If I was to go for the ipad 3, I dont know why I would feel locked down.
Yes, I already have some pdf's I would start with.

SysAdmNj said:
Would you guys think it would be smart to wait for the ipad mini announcement?
If I was to go for the ipad 3, I dont know why I would feel locked down.
Yes, I already have some pdf's I would start with.
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Lol becuase iOS is terrible when it comes to customization. Its a 4x4 grid of block icons.. its not hard to screw up :S. Honestly i wouldnt ever suggest any apple product. This screen is subpar to the ipad's retina its not as good but its definetly up there. Our screen density is like 226 and the ipad is like ~260 but that thing is a honker.. if all your doing is reading PDF's i would go with the Nexus 7 its much lighter and text is clear as day.
Also.. this might persuade you.. if you ever drop your tablet.. look what 600$ gets you compared to 250$

Definitely not all I'm doing, would like to think of it as entertaining as well whether viewing movies or games here and there. Another thing that made me think about the ipad was that there is this cable app from my provider that is especially made for the ipad/iphone and you can view your subscribed cable channels right on your device where it doesnt work on android like that. There is even a pc app that you can do the same thing, and I tried to use my sgn to remote connect to my pc to view the channels but it was pretty messy as you could imagine. Not sure why they cater to ipad/iphone so much and leave out android. I'm sure this app looks pretty good on the ipad/iphone. Not sure if anyone has been able to use the optimum cable app on their nexus 7 yet. It would be pretty cool to be away somewhere with wifi and view some NFL games. Also, can you tether undetected with the nexus 7 and the samsung galaxy nexus?

more questions, how to I check if its the c80 model by just looking at the box? I'm thinking of going to gamestop after work.
Also, is it easy to tether to you samsung galaxy nexus?

SysAdmNj said:
more questions, how to I check if its the c80 model by just looking at the box? I'm thinking of going to gamestop after work.
Also, is it easy to tether to you samsung galaxy nexus?
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Yes should be under SSN:
And yes its easy to tether with

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Yes should be under SSN:
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So i should avoid c70 at all costs?

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So i should avoid c70 at all costs?
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Not really but i would think the newer the better. I just returned my C80k and got a c60k with the same exact issue.. nothing different just a small little lift which is an adhesive issue.. and i have found a fix for it. Im done looking for a perfect model and just going to deal with the one i got now and fix it. I should have kept the one i had but its whatever.

Is this the best ebook reader on the planet?

With Mantano, ezpdf and PDF Max, I think it is. The display makes the pages look like paper.
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It has the best tablet screen I've ever used. It allows you to take instant notes or do research on what you're reading. Those two things put it up there. However, I think it's a little heavy to be the perfect "reader". Just my opinion. I certainly will be using it as one.

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With Mantano, ezpdf and PDF Max, I think it is. The display makes the pages look like paper.
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Can you tell me if the new pdf max update fixes slow handwriting response? I'm looking to replace ezpdf but I don't want top spend 10 to find out if it works well.
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I'd suggest buying it. Google gives you 30 mins to refund the app. Yet another reason why android beats iOS.
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I think PDF Max has issues with our device or screen resolution due to the handwriting lag. Oddly there's no lag on my galaxy s3 for writing on PDF Max, so I feel like its just a compatibility issue or something for our screen resolution?
Will try todays update when I get home. Hopefully it fixed the laggy annotation.

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I'd suggest buying it. Google gives you 30 mins to refund the app. Yet another reason why android beats iOS.
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I thought it was only 15 minutes. Either way, I only get one refund so I want to test it when the app is fixed then I can see if its really worth my money. I did email the developer and they said they will support spen soon.
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It seems like the new PDF max update just made performance a bit laggier. Can someone else confirm?
I'm reading a textbook and it happens when im near the bottom quarter of the page scrolling down to the top of the next page. There is a ton of choppiness/lag around that portion but then it goes back to normal after.
I'm gonna try to find the previous version when I get home and check again.
Oddly this doesn't happen on my Galaxy S3 and performance on my phone is splendid.

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With Mantano, ezpdf and PDF Max, I think it is. The display makes the pages look like paper.
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My Note 2, with CoolReader is the best ereader from all I've seen (apart from a good E-Ink screen). Before that the Note 1, also with CoolReader. With its page-like appearance and great screen contrast Amoled and CoolReader are hard to beat. The Note 3 is slightly worse, possibly because all good looking fonts I tried are thinner on its higher resolution screen. I would put the Note 3 on-par with an iPad 4, which is slightly better than my 2014 Note 10.1.
It is, I think, all a matter of contrast. With poor contrast you have to turn up the backlight, which is unpleasant for your eyes if you have to look into that for a long time. My iPad 4 has good contrast, but Amoled's is clearly better. The 2014 Note 10.1 has a slightly worse contrast than the iPad.

red321red321 said:
With Mantano, ezpdf and PDF Max, I think it is. The display makes the pages look like paper.
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This is for me!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mobisystems.ubreader_west
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I really love this tablet for my school work. As for the best e-reader for a casual read to relax I think I still prefer my e-ink kindle. Before I realized how well the s-pen worked I had no interest in owning a tablet at all.

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Damn straight it is. As a Biology/Pre-med student, most of my classes involve more than a fair bit of note taking, annotating lecture slides, and scratch work. Last semester for organic chemistry alone I filled two notebooks full of notes and problems. This tablet has made my life so much easier in this regard, and I don't have to bother printing out my lecture slides as I can annotate them directly on it. For o-chem II, which involves a lot of complex reaction mechanisms and synthesis problems, it lets me color code my electron arrows, corrections, and highlights, and I don't need to worry about filling it up. :laugh: I would recommend this tablet wholeheartedly to any science/engineering students. It's a little pricey, granted, but I've only had mine for a little bit and I already can't imagine studying without it.

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Damn straight it is. As a Biology/Pre-med student, most of my classes involve more than a fair bit of note taking, annotating lecture slides, and scratch work. Last semester for organic chemistry alone I filled two notebooks full of notes and problems. This tablet has made my life so much easier in this regard, and I don't have to bother printing out my lecture slides as I can annotate them directly on it. For o-chem II, which involves a lot of complex reaction mechanisms and synthesis problems, it lets me color code my electron arrows, corrections, and highlights, and I don't need to worry about filling it up. :laugh: I would recommend this tablet wholeheartedly to any science/engineering students. It's a little pricey, granted, but I've only had mine for a little bit and I already can't imagine studying without it.
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what app do you use?

I can't believe PDF Max costs $10 and doesn't support Adobe DRM. Sadly neither does Cool Reader.
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what app do you use?
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LectureNotes for note-taking and scratch work, and EZpdf for annotating my lecture slides. I also use a powerpoint to pdf converter because some of my professors upload their slides in .ppt or .pptx. With those apps I've become virtually notebook free in class, and I don't have to lug my oversized 17" in MacBook around with me as often.

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LectureNotes for note-taking and scratch work, and EZpdf for annotating my lecture slides. I also use a powerpoint to pdf converter because some of my professors upload their slides in .ppt or .pptx. With those apps I've become virtually notebook free in class, and I don't have to lug my oversized 17" in MacBook around with me as often.
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what powerpoint to pdf converter do you use?

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what powerpoint to pdf converter do you use?
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=br.com.thinkti.android.powerpointtopdf&hl=en
It's nothing special but it works and its free. :good:

wingdo said:
I can't believe PDF Max costs $10 and doesn't support Adobe DRM. Sadly neither does Cool Reader.
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Mantano reader does I believe. The only bragging point of PDF Max is how fast it is, it is the fastest reader for PDFs I have tried on Android.