Quadrant would be fine. Or any other popular benchmarks. So we can compare performance without placebo effect of "Project Butter" PR.
Vlad_z said:
Quadrant would be fine. Or any other popular benchmarks. So we can compare performance without placebo effect of "Project Butter" PR.
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2300
same or a little bit lower than HC 3.2 even without overclocking
but the tab is smoother than my I9300 it also has the most recent kernel 3.1.1 compared to 3.0.5 on the GSIII Note and Tab 7.7 ICS
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Quadrant would be fine. Or any other popular benchmarks. So we can compare performance without placebo effect of "Project Butter" PR.
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No butter in ICS. And while Jelly Beans "project butter" might only be there to mask shortcomings, its results in day to day experience are real, no placebo anywhere.
Here my results although It seems it worked with the tablet in vertical position.
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Thanks guys. I was not expected CPU benchmarks to be any better vs. HC (especially with stock, non-overclocked kernel).
But I was hopping that 2D and 3D performance could be better after all these talks of video acceleration and supposedly matured Tegra2 drives.
Well, this has not happened. Instead video performance became worse. So, for me I see no reason to upgrade from HC 3.2 to ICS.
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i was surfing the net and i found this, hope it could give us a glimpse of what is coming, http://bit.ly/fhO6Sr
bobgaby
We wont get 2.3 till sometime next year...BUT
I don't understand why we have not seen a 2.2.1 leak yet!??? The galaxy S has already gotten a few leaks of it.
2.2.1 is much improved!
A lot of what is in the SGS 2.2.1 update is already on the Tab.
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Croak said:
A lot of what is in the SGS 2.2.1 update is already on the Tab.
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Quadrant scores show otherwise!
rmanaudio said:
Quadrant scores show otherwise!
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What are those 2.2.1 features?
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It'll get an extra 0.1, that's about all we know for sure.
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Quadrant scores show otherwise!
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Quadrant scores are worth precisely *nothing*.
If you want to see this, try OCLF on your Tab - your Quadrant score will more than double, but you won't see any tangible performance improvement in real world usage.
My HTC Desire scores way higher than the Tab in Quadrant, but again in the real world performance is similar, and in the case of 3D games, the Tab is quite a bit better.
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Dave
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Quadrant scores are worth precisely *nothing*.
If you want to see this, try OCLF on your Tab - your Quadrant score will more than double, but you won't see any tangible performance improvement in real world usage.
My HTC Desire scores way higher than the Tab in Quadrant, but again in the real world performance is similar, and in the case of 3D games, the Tab is quite a bit better.
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Dave
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You need to understand why with OCLF you get such a higher score!
In 2.2.1 Samsung did not change the file system and it still scores 20% higher with 2.2.1 compared to 2.2. Now with OCLF or Voodoo or any other lag fix the file system is changed and file move tests are done faster thus giving a higher score! But with 2.2.1 it is the same old file system so the improvements are else where!
Lots are saying that Samsung has finally released a somewhat optimized firmware with 2.2.1!
IMHO, everything is perfect, and keeps getting better with every firmware update. Just because they haven't added the .1 to the firmware number, it doesn't mean we don't have those benefits that others have seen. The Tab was born well into the late stages of 2.2 and Samsung are probable paying more attention to updating their devices with Gingerbread, hopefully
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But with 2.2.1 it is the same old file system so the improvements are else where!
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Exactly!
The Tab uses RFS, same as the Galaxy S, yet it does not suffer the same lag issues as the Galaxy S.
If the Galaxy S is now "fixed", this would tend to imply (to me at least) that the Tab already has those fixes.
That's not to say that an updated firmware would be welcome. All I was saying is that if you are looking at Quadrant to determine the "speed" of your device, you are looking in the wrong place because it is a deeply flawed benchmark!
I have personally run OCLF for a week, and then removed. I noticed absolutely *no* difference in overall real world performance during daily usage. I know that some people say that it improves lag on the notification bar, but I've never experienced any lag there anyway.
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Dave
Ive had a few gos of Quadrant and am not getting more that 1627.
Everything seems snappy enough, but the gpu is looking pretty slow with the standard kernel.
Yup, 1696 here, everything is much faster though... homescreens, appdrawer, browser etc, however thats mainly CPU. Games don't seem to be effected so i doubt it matters, plays all the top HD games the same as before. Oh well, just gotta wait for a custom kernel, very happy about the update regardless.
Once again, quadrant scores mean absolutely nothing. If you are happy with the speed don't freak out about what a program tells you. It is possible that 3.1 made changes to how things are cached, or how graphics are handled and quadrant is getting it completely wrong. Quadrant still hasn't been updated for the major 3d changes in honeycomb.
Never trust synthetic benchmarks, try the games yourself and if they work, they work.
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Yes, thats all very well and good. The reason everyone uses them is because they can effectively gauge performance on the same hardware.
Gauge, not measure.
For me a score of 1627 is low because on 3.0.1 it was 2500. Its as indicative as that.
is there a way how to speed up the gingerbread on 3d gaming like on froyo?
in froyo my NFS Shift is like 55 - 60 fps but in gingerbread its just around 30 - 40 fps..
same on Quadrant in 3d rendering the red and blue dna like rolling figure is 49 - 50 fps in FROYO but in gingerbread it wont pass 30 fps
any tweaks on how to boost 3d rendering speed?
First of all, wrong section
Froyo indeed had better hardware acceleration than gb, and the kernel was also a lot better, Samsung rushed gb and messed things, but does it really affect you, the human eye can see @ ~30fps max, so does it matter?
honestly im seeing the difference.. 30fps is like lagging/stuttering to my naked eye..
i dont know but maybe its because I'm used to a high FPS on my computer.. the lowest FPS i see on my PC game is 90 fps. that's why I can differenciate 30fps to 60fps
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First of all, wrong section
Froyo indeed had better hardware acceleration than gb, and the kernel was also a lot better, Samsung rushed gb and messed things, but does it really affect you, the human eye can see @ ~30fps max, so does it matter?
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Some people can really tell the difference. Sadly, I'm one of them
But I started using the tab as more of a work device than gaming, so the newer features of Gingerbread far outweighed the gaming performance of Froyo for me.
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honestly im seeing the difference.. 30fps is like lagging/stuttering to my naked eye..
i dont know but maybe its because I'm used to a high FPS on my computer.. the lowest FPS i see on my PC game is 90 fps. that's why I can differenciate 30fps to 60fps
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Some people can really tell the difference. Sadly, I'm one of them
But I started using the tab as more of a work device than gaming, so the newer features of Gingerbread far outweighed the gaming performance of Froyo for me.
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LOL i'm also one of them, and this was one of the reasons HC needed froyo bootloader!
actually in terms of UI rendering and office apps specially on loading.. Gingerbread beats froyo over a mile ahead.. gingerbread is smoother only the 3d gaming is the problem.. but very well going to stick on gingerbread 2.3.6..
and btw.. Froyo also allows to underclock the CPU with higher value than gingerbread.. on froyo I can run 1.4ghz with -350mv stable but on gingerbread I cant get past -50mv stable on 1.4ghz..
any other tweak on how are the others getting a monstrous 3K score on quadrant?
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actually in terms of UI rendering and office apps specially on loading.. Gingerbread beats froyo over a mile ahead.. gingerbread is smoother only the 3d gaming is the problem.. but very well going to stick on gingerbread 2.3.6..
and btw.. Froyo also allows to underclock the CPU with higher value than gingerbread.. on froyo I can run 1.4ghz with -350mv stable but on gingerbread I cant get past -50mv stable on 1.4ghz..
any other tweak on how are the others getting a monstrous 3K score on quadrant?
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GB is faster than froyo, it would more, but Samsung rushed out the update, and that ruined it partially.
UV is kernel issue, try with some other kernel first, and -350mv is insane!
3k in quadrant is nothing, its just a score, can be fooled, mostly its fooled in I/O part
-350mv running stable on 1.4ghz is true..
have you tried a FROYO with any kuxodaxi's kernel?
i suggest you try it and see for yourself
yeah Gingerbread is faster in froyo but not on samsung..
on tab froyo beats gingerbread in terms of 3d gaming
by the way what is the best I/O scheduler for you?
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-350mv running stable on 1.4ghz is true..
have you tried a FROYO with any kuxodaxi's kernel?
i suggest you try it and see for yourself
yeah Gingerbread is faster in froyo but not on samsung..
on tab froyo beats gingerbread in terms of 3d gaming
by the way what is the best I/O scheduler for you?
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Honestly, no
I got my tab from my dad sometime back, and i had already updated to gb via *cough* kies *cough*, so didnt get a chance to try it out more.
i hope someone can port the UI speed of Gingerbread to the Froyo XD
Please adopt a little common sense when creating new threads.
Unless you have developed something, ROM/MOD/etc.. then the Development section is off limits for threads. Post it in General or Q&A.
You do not want to anger the XDA God of Tidiness
why do you have a common sense to spare? lol just kiddin
I tried a full benchmarking usijg quadrant app. And it only scores 899. No kernel just a 4.0.3 stock rom. Oh God. I dont want this. 5k will be good. LOL
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And still it is 10 times smoother than the AOSP roms that scored 2400. Time to forget Quadrant guys.
Quadrant scores don't matter one last bit. It's the UX you get while using the phone that matters, and as ICS is at least as smooth as GB there should be no need to complain about some test scores.
and another thing is that Quadrant is still isn't optimized for ICS I remember when GB was released it wasn't optimized for GB also ... =] havn't u seen how low scores Galaxy nexus got on quadrant? it's simply because it isn't properly supported nothing else =] and yea scores don't even matter ICS running smooth as silk =]
It is smooth as hell except when you open the center which has the applications and widgets, kinda laggy
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I wanna share with you some benchmarks I did... with Antutu.
The winner is.... Samsung 4.3 ROM ! :angel:
Warning: the ART score with the 4.4 is not accurate; I had several gapps & gallery crashes while testing the GPU score... but look at the CPU and Dalvik score...
Comparison here:
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nice info!
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nice info!
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It seems like GPU works better with the 4.3 samsung rom... but I don't think the score is cheated.... I noticed that Chrome, Facebook and everything involving pinch to zoom, pan, etc operations on some content, it's way smoother with the 4.3 sammy rom.
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I had different experience myself.
I have n7105 and was on sammy 4.1.2 that came with the phone.
No lags, the zoom in and out was lag free. very smooth.
Updated to CM 10.2 JB 4.3.1 and it gave severe lag problem on browser zoom in and scrolling.
Now on unofficial CM 11 Kitkat 4.4. Now its a lot better than the 4.3.1.
ART is kinda in an Alpha stage but... that said i't's performing wonderfully for me (except not compatibile apps). I think that actually antutu isn't accurate at benchmarking with ART but i've seen an enourmus improvement:good::good:
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ART is kinda in an Alpha stage but... that said i't's performing wonderfully for me (except not compatibile apps). I think that actually antutu isn't accurate at benchmarking with ART but i've seen an enourmus improvement:good::good:
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Sure... I don't trust antutu, I posted the comparison because lot of people ask about benchmarks on it!
I think it's a good news that they are working on making Android more efficient, so let's wait :victory:
What is the 'normal' Antutu benchmark value for stock 4.1.2?
Mine is only 16,412 really far from 20,000+ as shown in the OP's 4.1.2 ROM benchmark.
I am wondering if my low benchmark is because of the eMMC that just got replaced. The thing is that eMMC brickbug check says the chip date is 06/1997 which sounds really old...
Not sure what value this has at all... Oh wait I am, extremely little to none. Sorry OP but you need a far robuster test to give any insight and draw any conclusions. Not having a go, just saying what I see.
Benchmarks are better for comparing phones, hardware differences and of cause kernel tweaks / over clocking / under-voting. Not particularly useful for comparing ROM with ROMs. Try battery rundown tests, signal quality, camera quality, and other common daily use activities if you want to compare ROMs with one another.
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Not sure what value this has at all... Oh wait I am, extremely little to none. Sorry OP but you need a far robuster test to give any insight and draw any conclusions. Not having a go, just saying what I see.
Benchmarks are better for comparing phones, hardware differences and of cause kernel tweaks / over clocking / under-voting. Not particularly useful for comparing ROM with ROMs. Try battery rundown tests, signal quality, camera quality, and other common daily use activities if you want to compare ROMs with one another.
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I feel like you replied that thread just to make polemic.
Maybe you didn't read the thread title.
I zoom it for you:
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4.1.2 Vs 4.3 Vs 4.4 (DALVIK & ART)
NOW, do you understand? It's just an ANTUTU SCORES THREAD.
Just read over the forum board, in about every kitkat thread people ask for benchmarks on ART.
Well, I did some on antutu (it's not just a try, it's a medium value) and I shared with others.
Benchmarks are not unuseful. They are an information like others to understand how is evolving a platform.
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What is the 'normal' Antutu benchmark value for stock 4.1.2?
Mine is only 16,412 really far from 20,000+ as shown in the OP's 4.1.2 ROM benchmark.
I am wondering if my low benchmark is because of the eMMC that just got replaced. The thing is that eMMC brickbug check says the chip date is 06/1997 which sounds really old...
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With the latest Antutu they changed the algoritms and now Note 2 scores much higher than before.
With the previous versions I scored about 17000. Try the latest release (with cold phone, to prevent thermal throttling).
Neak kernel make some difference, but not too much... just about 500 points or less, over the stock kernel.
I have 21800 with super stock rom lol. Odex without root or anything else....4.1.2
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i thought 4.4 have better ram management.
thanks for sharing
Try out latest Devil Kernel !
latest Devil Kernel has new Samsung GPU Drivers ! on Antutu I get a score around 23k !
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latest Devil Kernel has new Samsung GPU Drivers ! on Antutu I get a score around 23k !
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On what rom?
it´s CM 11 unofficial by xda member "Thddude"
A good comparison