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I have a US T-Mobile G1, but am in Belgium, and we don't have T network here...
is the update coming to the devices, regardless of the network they're registered on, or do I really need to be in the US, on a T-Mobile network, to get the update?
Anyone from Belgium, or somewhere in Europe that has a G1 that is on another network than it was meant for?
Is there (going to be) any means of pulling the update manually, even on another network?
Thanks for sharing the info...
First, is your phone rooted or not?
Second, what firmware/rom are you running?
You do not need to be on T-mobile to get the update. Your phone checks with a server run by google. If there is an update for it it will get sent to your phone. If your phone is rooted it wont update due to running testkeys instead of releasekeys (unless you are running an ADP firmware).
Once the exact location of the file is known you can manually download it and update your phone if you dont want to wait.
Since you say its a US G1 you should be able to get the 1.5 update which should drop sometime between May 11th and the end of the month. Your location may prevent that from happening, however you can just use the zip file that will get posted on this site somewhere if that happens.
First of all, thanks for the quick response.
The phone is not rooted, it's a normal user phone, no hacks, no custom soft...
Current version is 1.1 RC33 126986 with the release keys intact...
I'll wait until the end of the month and see then...
Just need it to get SipDroid running... (www.sipdroid.org) Wanted to make it a 'cordless phone' for my asterisk server running at home...
Thanks for the info and help!
I'll let you know when I get the update.
Just to let you know, I'm currently abroad with my G1 (UK on T-Mobile), with data roaming turned off.
Connected my G1 to the internet over Wifi and the update was detected and downloaded over Wifi. So looks as though it shouldn't matter what you're connected over.
I have mine secondhand and i have no idea if its rooted or not. but i know i don't have any updates yet. btw im in turkey where no t-mobile service is avaliable.
my device's firware is like that, can you tell its rooted or not? I know im a real newbie. If its rooted how can i take it to original state that can pull the original cupcake
Firmware version 1.0
kernel version
2.6.25-01843-gfea26b0
[email protected] 6#
built number
kila-user 1.0 TC4-RC30 116143
ota-relkeys,release keys
saluk said:
I have mine secondhand and i have no idea if its rooted or not. but i know i don't have any updates yet. btw im in turkey where no t-mobile service is avaliable.
my device's firware is like that, can you tell its rooted or not? I know im a real newbie. If its rooted how can i take it to original state that can pull the original cupcake
Firmware version 1.0
kernel version
2.6.25-01843-gfea26b0
[email protected] 6#
built number
kila-user 1.0 TC4-RC30 116143
ota-relkeys,release keys
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I think (thx to xda-develpers ) mine is not rooted right? Then why didn't I got the cupcake or the previous version which is newer than mine :/
Im just curious if i will receive the update OTA or not. I rooted my phone however it states that it is release keys and not test keys. Below is what the About Phone screen looks like
Firmware Version
1.1
kernel Version
2.6.25-01843-gfea26b0
[email protected] #1
Build Number
kila-user 1.1 PLAT-rc33 126986
ota-rel-keys, release-keys
Thanks for the help
To answer the actual question. Will you get the OTA T-Mobile update? No, you will not. T-Mobile is pushing it to their customers. T-Mobile and Google are not the same company and T-Mobile has no responsibility to update the "device" but rather to update their customers.
The reason the UK guy got the update is because he is in the customer database for T-Mobile UK. So as his phone is part of that network (regardless of roaming/not roaming) it came to him.
However, I am sure there will be some smart G1 user who, when getting the update downloaded OTA, will FIRST copy the update off their phone BEFORE installing it. Then uploading a copy of the update so those who still have not received it can download it and install it manually. (That is a hint to any US T-Mobile person on this forum who gets the update)
You should get the OTA updates. I bought a dev phone in december and in January I got the OTA ADP1.1h update. I'm not on T-Mo at all and never have. I am on AT&T and all was well and I would assume you should be too.
ExploreMN said:
To answer the actual question. Will you get the OTA T-Mobile update? No, you will not. T-Mobile is pushing it to their customers. T-Mobile and Google are not the same company and T-Mobile has no responsibility to update the "device" but rather to update their customers.
The reason the UK guy got the update is because he is in the customer database for T-Mobile UK. So as his phone is part of that network (regardless of roaming/not roaming) it came to him.
However, I am sure there will be some smart G1 user who, when getting the update downloaded OTA, will FIRST copy the update off their phone BEFORE installing it. Then uploading a copy of the update so those who still have not received it can download it and install it manually. (That is a hint to any US T-Mobile person on this forum who gets the update)
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I beg to differ, I might be wrong but everyone was getting the previous updates because they aren't sent from T-Mobile. They are sent from Google. It is just a T-Mobile build so as long as you have internet it will download the update.
neoobs said:
I beg to differ, I might be wrong but everyone was getting the previous updates because they aren't sent from T-Mobile. They are sent from Google. It is just a T-Mobile build so as long as you have internet it will download the update.
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I beg to differ your begging to differ! Google, from what I understand, has its own 1.5 cupcake update which is similar to the T-mobile version in just about every respect. However, while searching for cupcake I read an article that noted there were some differences between the two builds. Perhaps Google was responsible for the G1 update to 1.1, but from the sounds of it, that is not the case now.
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I beg to differ your begging to differ! Google, from what I understand, has its own 1.5 cupcake update which is similar to the T-mobile version in just about every respect. However, while searching for cupcake I read an article that noted there were some differences between the two builds. Perhaps Google was responsible for the G1 update to 1.1, but from the sounds of it, that is not the case now.
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I am not saying that Google created it but rather it is hosted on Google Servers, this can't change because the update script pulls the update from Google servers. Maybe in 1.5 it will change but as of 1.1 it still checks Google for the update.
Basically as long as you can reach the google address it all will update.
You will NOT get an OTA.
You only get an OTA IF:
1) You have a G1 and are a tmobile customer. The update may come from google's servers, but the update is controlled by tmobile, and its user database. It is a tmobile phone.
2) You have an ADP, and have already *MANUALLY* updated to 1.1 firmware. Then, you will get the official google (via HTC) ADP 1.5 update. OTA functionality for ADP was only rolled out in the 1.1 firmware.
Other than that, no, you will NOT get the update, and you will need to root the phone and manually update to either the ADP release, one of the t-mobile releases or any of the 'cooked' roms on here.
Also there seems to be some confusion on the ADP vs. G1 versions. Infact, it is the exact same phone, and the *exact* same software, but the tmobile release has the t-mobile logo and all their spam apps (my favs etc). Otherwise, they are the same thing!
Hope this cleared some stuff up.
I bought the phone second hand and use it on orange and i got the update. im not a tmobile user, but the person i bought the phone off was. but have never personally used it on tmobile and received the 1.5 update fine. hope this helps
menov321 said:
I bought the phone second hand and use it on orange and i got the update. im not a tmobile user, but the person i bought the phone off was. but have never personally used it on tmobile and received the 1.5 update fine. hope this helps
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You probably got the google generic 1.5 update and not the t-mobile specific update.
bakgwailo said:
You will NOT get an OTA.
You only get an OTA IF:
1) You have a G1 and are a tmobile customer. The update may come from google's servers, but the update is controlled by tmobile, and its user database. It is a tmobile phone.
2) You have an ADP, and have already *MANUALLY* updated to 1.1 firmware. Then, you will get the official google (via HTC) ADP 1.5 update. OTA functionality for ADP was only rolled out in the 1.1 firmware.
Other than that, no, you will NOT get the update, and you will need to root the phone and manually update to either the ADP release, one of the t-mobile releases or any of the 'cooked' roms on here.
Also there seems to be some confusion on the ADP vs. G1 versions. Infact, it is the exact same phone, and the *exact* same software, but the tmobile release has the t-mobile logo and all their spam apps (my favs etc). Otherwise, they are the same thing!
Hope this cleared some stuff up.
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Where did you get your info? We had tons of users getting the update OTA for the 1.1 and even previous 1.0 builds. BTW there are 3 versions of software, 2 by t-mobile, 1 by google. The 2 t-mobile versions are US and UK which have different applications because of the way company each works.
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You probably got the google generic 1.5 update and not the t-mobile specific update.
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Where did you hear there is a generic google version? So far only the ADP 1.5 has been made available to us, and we only know of the ADP and T-Mobile versions.
There is also this one, cupcake for holiday phone europe
http://android.clients.google.com/updates/signed-dream_gfh_eu-ota-147201.ea8cd686.zip
posted here
http://phandroid.com/2009/05/05/official-german-cupcake-url-leaks-for-developers/
I have a T-mobile G1 on Rogers in canada with a data plan,
YES, YOU WILL EVENTUALLY GET THE UPDATE.
Originally i believed that i do not get updates, so i manually upgraded fron RC29, to RC30,
one day, at work, i got a notification to go from RC30 to RC33 OTA.
petko64 said:
I have a T-mobile G1 on Rogers in canada with a data plan,
YES, YOU WILL EVENTUALLY GET THE UPDATE.
Originally i believed that i do not get updates, so i manually upgraded fron RC29, to RC30,
one day, at work, i got a notification to go from RC30 to RC33 OTA.
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That could be because updates were stopped halfway through on one of the updates to make sure they fixed some security holes.
The last update I got before any T-mobile customers and I was on AT&T. I actually pulled the file off my phone and gave it to JesusFreke but by the time he got it the link had already been posted.
I have a Samsung Galaxy S. The details on 'About' menu of the phone are:
Model Number:
GT-I9000
Firmware version:
2.1-update1
Baseband version:
I9000XXJF3
Kernel version:
2.6.29
[email protected] #2
Build number:
ECLAIR
I use the phone on T-Mobile. I have no idea if it is locked, etc, but was purchased there from new (well a reseller website, not sure where it physically came from).
I have never updated this phone. This is as the phone was purchased one year ago. I have not installed any new ROMs, official or custom. I am the only owner and therefore no it has never been updated without my knowledge.
I am aware a new version of Android is out and have installed the Kies software, wishing to do this the 'official' route.
I get the following error message in Kies:
The current version is not an official release.
Firmware upgrade service for unofficial versions is not supported.
Current firmware version: PDA:JF4 / PHONE:JF3 / CSC:JE6 (TMU)
Any help at all? I really want to get this updated, especially after the hassle of install the terrible Kies software! I would prefer to do this the 'official' route without installing custom ROMs etc.
Has anybody seen such a message before? Thanks!
If your using a T-Mobile version, use Samsung Kies Mini. Search for it in google.
carlo.edmon said:
If your using a T-Mobile version, use Samsung Kies Mini. Search for it in google.
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Thank you very much for the reply.
I am on T-Mobile UK and got the phone from them. I assume this means I am using a T-Mobile UK version. Can Samsung Kies Mini upgrade T-Mobile UK? If so, can you please provide a link? When searching via Google all I can find is Kies Mini for Mac. There are some old versions that come up, too, but these seem to be for specific phones.
If you could give any further advice on how to upgrade my Samsung Galaxy S i9000 on T-Mobile UK that'd be great .
Thanks.
PS - Is this part of my original post:
Kernel version:
2.6.29
[email protected] #2
relevant at all? Should it say 'root'? I have never 'rooted' the phone. Could this be why Kies is unhappy with my firmware version? Thanks.
Try this one:
"ars.samsung.com/customer/usa/jsp/faqs/faqs_view_us.jsp?SITE_ID=22&PG_ID=2&PROD_SUB_ID=557&PROD_ID=560&AT_ID=341559"
It's for US but just give it a try. After installing the software, let it update to the latest version then connect your phone. My sister's phone came from US and I used this to update hers.
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Try this one:
"ars.samsung.com/customer/usa/jsp/faqs/faqs_view_us.jsp?SITE_ID=22&PG_ID=2&PROD_SUB_ID=557&PROD_ID=560&AT_ID=341559"
It's for US but just give it a try. After installing the software, let it update to the latest version then connect your phone. My sister's phone came from US and I used this to update hers.
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Thanks for the link, I had found that before but ignored it because it does not mention i9000.
I'll give it a while incase any other ideas come in, otherwise I'll give it a go. The fact it's for the US (and you used it to update a US phone) does not give me confidence it'll work for a UK phone. I'll try it as a last resort, but I'd like to see if there are any other options for the moment.
I've given T-Mobile UK a call who were useless -If you cannot update because of Samsung Kies then you'll have to contact Samsung, not us. I contact them and they basically say 'take it into a Samsung authorised repairer'. I call my nearest one and it sounds far from a professional outfit - 'Just drop it off'. I'd hoped they could update it on the spot but I was told I'd have to leave it with them... I cannot afford to be without my phone, though.
It looks like I might have to stick to the current version I've got, I cannot get Kies to give any message other than the one in the original post... And none of the 'official' support lines are bothered. No wonder people don't bother with the 'official' releases... Though I'd like to in order to keep my warranty intact.
Thanks.
Use odin and update it your self or contach t mobile about your problem
got-petrol said:
Use odin and update it your self or contach t mobile about your problem
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Thanks for the reply. I have tried contacting T-Mobile already, see previous post (relevant section below):
I've given T-Mobile UK a call who were useless -If you cannot update because of Samsung Kies then you'll have to contact Samsung, not us. I contact them and they basically say 'take it into a Samsung authorised repairer'. I call my nearest one and it sounds far from a professional outfit - 'Just drop it off'. I'd hoped they could update it on the spot but I was told I'd have to leave it with them... I cannot afford to be without my phone, though.
I'm basically left without any help from them. I'd rather not go down the Do-It-Yourself route, mainly because I do not understand all of the steps that need doing. Each guide is *slightly* different... And I've no idea which (specific) files I should download and from where... And kernel? And ROM? And.. Urgg. I also see Phone/PDA/CSC... It's a minefield for somebody that does not know enough and wanted an easy update.
I am starting to consider doing it myself but really need to find one definitive guide that I should follow.
Thanks.
I saw some time ago that there was a firmware for the lg quantum to get wireless tethering...
I don't remember for which country it was , but I know it wasn't for the US quantum...
Is there anyway to install that firmware if I don't have a quantum that is from the same country?
it was the telstra one. i do remember that a few people just flashed a telstra rom and succeeded to get the upgraded firmware including wifi tethering.
just try.
quserdy said:
it was the telstra one. i do remember that a few people just flashed a telstra rom and succeeded to get the upgraded firmware including wifi tethering.
just try.
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The thing is... I have no idea of how to flash a windows phone 7 rom xD
I used to have an android samsung phone.... and flashing was easy... but with this I have no idea of where to begin...
Could you help me please? =)
are u kidding me? with flashing a sammy you should already be familar with this forum...
there are just 5 threads in the quantum development sector....
so.. easy as http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=935605
Hey guys,
So i have the canadian version of the mini, with the details as follows:
model number: ZTE B2017G
android version: 6.0.1
build number: ZTE B2017G+BELLV1.0.0B06
and I cant update it, ive downloaded the nougat update file from here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73257562&postcount=13
and attempted to update it in system setting from sd card, but got the message: package mismatch installation aborted.
Update didnt work from recovery either. Any ideas on how to update it, or if its even possible? Thanks!!
talha746 said:
Hey guys,
So i have the canadian version of the mini, with the details as follows:
model number: ZTE B2017G
android version: 6.0.1
build number: ZTE B2017G+BELLV1.0.0B06
and I cant update it, ive downloaded the nougat update file from here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73257562&postcount=13
and attempted to update it in system setting from sd card, but got the message: package mismatch installation aborted.
Update didnt work from recovery either. Any ideas on how to update it, or if its even possible? Thanks!!
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Doesn't seem like it's updatable at this point in time.
Reached out to ZTE: No updates available. If there were to be it would be through bell/Virgin as it's specific build/firmware/model.
Reached out to Virgin, bell and PC mobile as well. If something interesting comes from it I will surely post.
parawizard said:
Doesn't seem like it's updatable at this point in time.
Reached out to ZTE: No updates available. If there were to be it would be through bell/Virgin as it's specific build/firmware/model.
Reached out to Virgin, bell and PC mobile as well. If something interesting comes from it I will surely post.
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Cool, thanks man.
Btw, is the Bell/Virgin model rootable? So we can put custom rom on it? Would it be the same roms other models would use?
I know tdm is working on one atm (https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7-mini/development/recovery-twrp-7-1-unofficial-t3685339)
talha746 said:
Cool, thanks man.
Btw, is the Bell/Virgin model rootable? So we can put custom rom on it? Would it be the same roms other models would use?
I know tdm is working on one atm (https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7-mini/development/recovery-twrp-7-1-unofficial-t3685339)
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I think it should be but I haven't tried yet as I am using this phone as my daily. Maybe if I grab another one.
I need help too with the canadian version. There is no option to activate the NFC...
lanautechdroid said:
I need help too with the canadian version. There is no option to activate the NFC...
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I don't think this version has NFC. There is no mention of it anywhere.
https://www.ztedevices.ca/axon-cat/axon7mini.html
USA version does mention it.
https://www.zteusa.com/axon7mini/
I got the Axon 7 mini from PC Mobile as well. Looks like the Canadian mini is a variant P852A15H, without NFC.
Any idea how to get rid of the carrier name at the top right? SytemUI tuner doesn't seem to activate either.
The mini is really sleek and light! Haven't had the battery issues mentioned in reviews either. Wish we could update to N though.
For what it's worth, there may be some activity behind the scenes for a minor update to the Canadian Axon 7 Mini late this month.
If this individual is to be believed, it will be bug fixes and security patches ONLY. That is, it will NOT be an upgrade to Nougat; we'll still be stuck on Marshmallow. But at least we'd end up with a security patch newer than late-2016.
https://community.zteusa.com/discussion/comment/228993/#Comment_228993
I wonder if this method will work for Canadian version:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7-mini/how-to/updating-uk-version-zte-axon-7-mini-to-t3717933
fy0u1 said:
I wonder if this method will work for Canadian version:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7-mini/how-to/updating-uk-version-zte-axon-7-mini-to-t3717933
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It's said somewhere in the ZTE section that someone tried it and bricked his phone.
zigonneux said:
if you read more posts, it's said somewhere that someone tried it and bricked his phone.
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That was after I posted here
So, are there any news on rooting+custom ROM for this device?
Security patch today
Hi,
Just got ZTE B2017G_BELLV1.0.0B08 this morning ....
yergy said:
Hi,
Just got ZTE B2017G_BELLV1.0.0B08 this morning ....
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Did it upgrade to Nougat? What version of Android is it on after the B08 update.
Bettaxis said:
Did it upgrade to Nougat? What version of Android is it on after the B08 update.
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No nougat, still M, only security patch february 2018. Better than nothing
yergy said:
No nougat, still M, only security patch february 2018. Better than nothing
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Confirmed. 105.67 MB download, the device stays on Marshmallow. It brings the device from the November 1, 2016 security patch to February 5, 2018.
This is the first OTA ever released for the Canadian variant. It would include fixes for some pretty high-profile vulnerabilities, such as Blueborne, Krack, and Spectre, so it's definitely welcome.
talha746 said:
I have the canadian version of the mini
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Bettaxis said:
I got the Axon 7 mini from PC Mobile as well. Looks like the Canadian mini is a variant P852A15H, without NFC.
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Can you please execute the following adb command and post your product name here?
Code:
adb devices -l
List of devices attached
... device product:P852A11 model:ZTE_B2017G device:tulip transport_id:1
The adb devices -l command lists the following properties: ro.product.name, ro.product.model and ro.product.device
Hint: I downloaded the latest ADB tool from https://developer.android.com/studio/releases/platform-tools.html#download
I just finished a live chat with a ZTE rep. I give him all informations he asked and he told me that he's submitting that info to R&D and they will get back to me within 5 - 6 business days with a package update.
My build number is ZTE B2017G_BELLV1.0.0B08
I don't keep my hope very high on this, but hey you never know ...
I'll post what comes out of this ...
yergy said:
I just finished a live chat with a ZTE rep. I give him all informations he asked and he told me that he's submitting that info to R&D and they will get back to me within 5 - 6 business days with a package update.
my build number is ZTE B2017G_BELLV1.0.0B08
I don't keep my hope very high on this, but hey you never know ...
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good luck with that
The Canada-specific version of the Axon 7 Mini was not sold on the open market, but rather was sold as a bundle through one of Bell Canada's affiliates. (I am aware of it being sold through Virgin Mobile and PC Mobile.) As such, it is running a customized OS that was approved by Bell Canada. The Bell Canada-specific OS has always been visually distinct from the version of the OS that shipped on open-market versions of the Axon 7 Mini; in my opinion it appears quite a bit more similar to the vanilla Android experience, with the exception of the preinstalled Bell account management apps.
Unfortunately, because the phone was bundled through Bell Canada, that means that ZTE will also be obliged to get Bell Canada's approval of any OS updates that may be offered for the phone. We've already seen, with the patch that was released earlier this year, that the OS update path being approved by Bell Canada is following a very different track from what ZTE has been offering on the open market, and I don't expect to see that change any time soon.
And it really doen't matter if ZTE's engineering department is technically capable of offering Nougat or newer for this device. They'd still have to get it cleared by Bell Canada first before they could distribute it.
Forgive me if there is already an answer to this. I am very new to Android. By new I mean 2 weeks. I have been on Apple for many years now. Jailbreak and customizing is kind of a thing of the past. But to my question...
T+Mobile software is way behind and feels somewhat restricted. Is there a simple way of going to the full version of the latest OnePlus OS?
Thanks in advance for any help and insite.
Chris
wheeler77 said:
Forgive me if there is already an answer to this. I am very new to Android. By new I mean 2 weeks. I have been on Apple for many years now. Jailbreak and customizing is kind of a thing of the past. But to my question...
T+Mobile software is way behind and feels somewhat restricted. Is there a simple way of going to the full version of the latest OnePlus OS?
Thanks in advance for any help and insite.
Chris
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By far, the best link to get you from T-Mobile software to the International ROM:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6t/how-to/guide-flashing-t-mobile-oneplus-6t-to-t3865966
I've got the T-Mo version and (once I got my phone and bootloader unlocked) was able to convert to the International ROM in less than 10 minutes.
NOTE: You won't be able to get OTA updates (as of yet) but the process of flashing the new updates is super easy.
I followed the how to linked here, updated to the .11 version manually using local update.
On the international Beta 2 now, and it works flawlessly.
brisseau said:
By far, the best link to get you from T-Mobile software to the International ROM:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6t/how-to/guide-flashing-t-mobile-oneplus-6t-to-t3865966
I've got the T-Mo version and (once I got my phone and bootloader unlocked) was able to convert to the International ROM in less than 10 minutes.
NOTE: You won't be able to get OTA updates (as of yet) but the process of flashing the new updates is super easy.
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Sent from my ONEPLUS A6013 using Tapatalk
brisseau said:
By far, the best link to get you from T-Mobile software to the International ROM:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6t/how-to/guide-flashing-t-mobile-oneplus-6t-to-t3865966
I've got the T-Mo version and (once I got my phone and bootloader unlocked) was able to convert to the International ROM in less than 10 minutes.
NOTE: You won't be able to get OTA updates (as of yet) but the process of flashing the new updates is super easy.
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Thank you for the info. I will give it a shot in a few.
wheeler77 said:
Forgive me if there is already an answer to this. I am very new to Android. By new I mean 2 weeks. I have been on Apple for many years now. Jailbreak and customizing is kind of a thing of the past. But to my question...
T+Mobile software is way behind and feels somewhat restricted. Is there a simple way of going to the full version of the latest OnePlus OS?
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If you've been on Apple devices for the past few years, isn't it a bit quick to jump to the conclusion that the T-Mobile branded version of OxygenOS is "way behind" and "feels restricted?"
The only "restrictions" on the T-Mobile version of the phone are the T-Mobile branded boot animation and the inclusion of the T-Mobile app and SIM Unlock app, both of which can be disabled (but not removed). It also doesn't support dual-SIM even though the hardware is there. Aside that there are no other differences.
The system updates are pushed much more slowly on the T-Mobile version. For example we just got the 9.0.2 update while OnePlus has recently released 9.0.11. So yes, the updates are "way behind" if you consider a 2-3 month delay to be a concern. There aren't any significant restrictions. The same restrictions apply to the non-Tmo variant, and in either case you can easily bypass them by rooting.
Now if you want the dual SIM capability, unbranded OS, and more recent system updates, then go ahead and convert. That's exactly why I'm doing it.
As for the OTA updates, I'm reading mixed reviews. Some claim they have successfully received OTA updates after converting. Its not clear if they were real OTA updates that were downloaded and installed automatically or if those users had to manually download and install (in which case it isn't an OTA update, some people just don't understand terminology) It is confirmed that after converting, it is most certainly possible to download the latest software update from OnePlus and use the local upgrade option (no need to manually flash via adb) which is fine by me.
bassic said:
If you've been on Apple devices for the past few years, isn't it a bit quick to jump to the conclusion that the T-Mobile branded version of OxygenOS is "way behind" and "feels restricted?"
The only "restrictions" on the T-Mobile version of the phone are the T-Mobile branded boot animation and the inclusion of the T-Mobile app and SIM Unlock app, both of which can be disabled (but not removed). It also doesn't support dual-SIM even though the hardware is there. Aside that there are no other differences.
The system updates are pushed much more slowly on the T-Mobile version. For example we just got the 9.0.2 update while OnePlus has recently released 9.0.11. So yes, the updates are "way behind" if you consider a 2-3 month delay to be a concern. There aren't any significant restrictions. The same restrictions apply to the non-Tmo variant, and in either case you can easily bypass them by rooting.
Now if you want the dual SIM capability, unbranded OS, and more recent system updates, then go ahead and convert. That's exactly why I'm doing it.
As for the OTA updates, I'm reading mixed reviews. Some claim they have successfully received OTA updates after converting. Its not clear if they were real OTA updates that were downloaded and installed automatically or if those users had to manually download and install (in which case it isn't an OTA update, some people just don't understand terminology) It is confirmed that after converting, it is most certainly possible to download the latest software update from OnePlus and use the local upgrade option (no need to manually flash via adb) which is fine by me.
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Well you did leave a handful of features the TMO firmware does away with.
But yes, it's easy to "uncarrier" this phone, as i was given my unlock before i paid it off and before the 40 days, submitted to 1+, and in due time and no time fast forward to beta 2