Do i need to install titanium backup to external sd card so i cab restore the backup on internal sd card of GT? I am asking because if i flash the device and the tit. backup is on the internal sd card everything will be deleted including tit backup app so from where i can restore my backup?
No need. You just install titanium on the phone and do the backup. You can then move the entire directory to your external sd card. When you flash, you just install it again and then restore your backup.
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sorry which directory to move you are talking about?
No need to move anything. Just change the backup folder in TB - Menu - Preferences - Backup folder name from the default of TitaniumBackup (which is on the internal SD card) to external_sd/Titanium Backup (which is on the external SD card). Voila! You may need to reinstall TB from the Market if you have deleted everything but the backups will remail on your external card.
norm2002 thanks, you know without changing the directory (before reading your post) i backed up everything and then flashed with JMI, flashed perfectly and then installed Titanium back and when i tried to restore i see no files to restore it was 0 written. I was assuming TB uploads all data to it's server but now No Voila for me. But now you taught me how to backup. Will press thanks for your help.
norm2002 said:
No need to move anything. Just change the backup folder in TB - Menu - Preferences - Backup folder name from the default of TitaniumBackup (which is on the internal SD card) to external_sd/Titanium Backup (which is on the external SD card). Voila! You may need to reinstall TB from the Market if you have deleted everything but the backups will remail on your external card.
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That was very helpfull. Had the same problem wenn i flashed the Roto-rom. Thought i was covered with Titanium. But the flash deleted mij internal-sd. Now all is on the external and i am very pleased..
i've always run how norm2002 describes it. hasn't failed me yet.
oh men, no offence, but this forum is becoming a rubbish container...
times ago I remember this forum as one where there were only advanced users posting their finds and where the newbies could read and learn about...
but now every new(to android and not only!) user is opening 3d here and there so the usefull 3d are going to finish bottom page or even in the other pages and finding what you need is becoming just as searching a needle in the rick.
so please USE THE SEARCH BUTTON and some nous before posting such things...for the "well being" of the XDA comunity...
thanks and I repeat : NO OFFENCE INTENDED!
how could somebody pretend to mod his cell/tab without even reading the settings in the apps he uses?
.....to posterity the arduous sentence!
norm2002 said:
No need to move anything. Just change the backup folder in TB - Menu - Preferences - Backup folder name from the default of TitaniumBackup (which is on the internal SD card) to external_sd/Titanium Backup (which is on the external SD card). Voila! You may need to reinstall TB from the Market if you have deleted everything but the backups will remail on your external card.
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Thanks, I'll make the change too.
If you want to be sure, you could always copy the titanium backup folder from the tab to your PC(USB), and copy it back after formatting/flashing a rom.
Nice tip norm2002! I can't count the times I have deleted my precious backups when I repartitioned!
Thank you all, you guys are very informative.
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If you want to be sure, you could always copy the titanium backup folder from the tab to your PC(USB), and copy it back after formatting/flashing a rom.
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The more places you can have backup files saved, the safer you are. With TB it's wise to have the backup files stored on:
- External SD card
- PC
- Dropbox
This way, regardless of what happens, you have your backup files safe and can set up your Tablet (or a new one if your old Tablet gets lost/stolen) easily.
Ok guys thanks for all the answers
The dropbox option is very cool!
Hello,
I wonder if anyone know... What happens when let's say i have 9gb of data on my s2 and i want to backup it with nandroid? It should be possible to do this to sd card, but what if some apps are on phone and some on sd card? How backup then?
If i upgrade to a newer custom built rom, i them try to backup, wouldn't it restore the older backed up firmware? Or just apps and settings, but not rom itself?
Thank you,
Tomas
no one? did no one fill their phone and tried to backup? maybe there is a solution to backup to a computer?
execine said:
Hello,
I wonder if anyone know... What happens when let's say i have 9gb of data on my s2 and i want to backup it with nandroid? It should be possible to do this to sd card, but what if some apps are on phone and some on sd card? How backup then?
If i upgrade to a newer custom built rom, i them try to backup, wouldn't it restore the older backed up firmware? Or just apps and settings, but not rom itself?
Thank you,
Tomas
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Nandroid backups are an image of
/system
/data
/dbdata
(on CF-Root, not sure about original CWM) it also includes .android_secure, which is SD-stored apps.
I don't understand what you are asking.
If there is not enough space you obviously have to delete something.
BTW: data-partition is around 2,1GB and system-partition 500MB, so there is no way a single backup can use 9GB
Maybe I am not being very clear, sorry about that
Coming from an Iphone, i am looking for a total phone backup solution. Itunes backs up literally everything - your apps, music, photos etc. It's filled probably with 20gb of different data.
Question is if I have my phone filled with games, different apps which make let's say 10 gb (not that much counting in that one game may be up to 1 gb), so how do i backup this? To SD card?
What if I have 20gb of data , 10 of which are on phone, 10 on sd card, in this case i wouldn't be able to backup everything?
One more technical question about rom upgrades. Currently i installed Villain Rom and have a backup made with nandroid. When i upgrade to a newer Villain Rom 1.5 or whatever comes out and I do the restore, i suppose it will restore 1.4 rom version with it's all apps and settings?
In this case, how do i backup only accounts, contacts, sms , apps, photogallery but not rom itself?
Sorry for all those questions, but i'm reading the forum all over, and there's still hundreds of questions i'm looking to find answers, so that i could comfortably migrate from iphone to galaxy..
execine said:
Maybe I am not being very clear, sorry about that
Coming from an Iphone, i am looking for a total phone backup solution. Itunes backs up literally everything - your apps, music, photos etc. It's filled probably with 20gb of different data.
Question is if I have my phone filled with games, different apps which make let's say 10 gb (not that much counting in that one game may be up to 1 gb), so how do i backup this? To SD card?
What if I have 20gb of data , 10 of which are on phone, 10 on sd card, in this case i wouldn't be able to backup everything?
One more technical question about rom upgrades. Currently i installed Villain Rom and have a backup made with nandroid. When i upgrade to a newer Villain Rom 1.5 or whatever comes out and I do the restore, i suppose it will restore 1.4 rom version with it's all apps and settings?
In this case, how do i backup only accounts, contacts, sms , apps, photogallery but not rom itself?
Sorry for all those questions, but i'm reading the forum all over, and there's still hundreds of questions i'm looking to find answers, so that i could comfortably migrate from iphone to galaxy..
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Regarding restoring only apps/accounts/etc but not the rom iteself, within cwm, in backup and restore, chhoose advanced restore and the restore data.
Im not certain whether it restores gallery or sms.i sync my photos via dropbox, and backup my texts seperately.
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So there is no unified backup solution for android? You would have to back up everything separately ?
execine said:
So there is no unified backup solution for android? You would have to back up everything separately ?
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It's fairly simple:
Nandroid for your ROM and user data that is on the PHONE and /data partition
For the /sdcard and /sdcard/external_sd, that's up to you to sort out... Perhaps back up the contents by connecting to your PC? Then copy the contents of the SD? That way you have your nandroid backup stored on the computer just in case
so then in case something goes wrong, i restore with nandroid and manually copy contents from PC and ALL of my phone's data (software, contacts, gallery etc) will be there?
execine said:
Coming from an Iphone, i am looking for a total phone backup solution. Itunes backs up literally everything - your apps, music, photos etc. It's filled probably with 20gb of different data.
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Well, now you have a phone that doesn´t hide everything from the user it shouldn´t be that hard to make a backup.
There are basically 4 interesting partitions on the phone:
system (about 500MB) - This holds more or less the whole Firmware. While it is technically just a partition on the flash-memory, it is used like a ROM in normal usage, so the only situation where something will be written on this partition is a firmware-upgrade.
data (about 2GB)- This partition holds all user-installed apps and their settings.
sdcard (about 12GB) - This is not really a sdcard. Instead it is a part of the internal memory, you can use it for example for media, documents, images etc., whatever you like. This partition can be accessed on your computer as a regular USB-storage, and you can do a backup of it the way you like, either simply copying everything, or using a backup-solution of your choice.
external_sd (optional) - This is the micro-sd-card you can put in your phone. Obviously you can use it for anything you like. This partition is also accessible as a USB-storage or you can use a simple USB card-reader to access it on your computer.
Usually all your applications and settings will be stored in the /data/-partition.
If you choose the Move-to-SD option in the application-manager, some parts of the application will be moved to the (internal) /sdcard/-partition, but all the user-data/settings still remain on the /data/-partition.
So the maximum space you need to backup all your settings and apps is under 3GB.
Now to the possibilities of a backup, and the importance of the different things.
A nandroid-backup will basically make an image of the /system/ and /data/ partitions (also a bit more, but that´s not really important).
Usually it will use the /sdcard/-partition, which actually is still in your phone.
If you restore a Nandroid-Backup your System will be in the exact state before the backup, including all applications with their settings (which also means contacts, e-mails, sms etc).
Obviously everything that has changed after the backup will be lost.
A restore well also restore the complete firmware from the backup.
A backup from Nandroid can only be restored on the same phone, with the same partitions.
The second possibility to make backups would be TitaniumBackup.
This program will store all your installed applications and their data.
Default it will store it on the internal /sdcard/, but it is probably more useful to change the path to the external_sd.
Everything in Android is an application, so this will also save all your settings.
During a restore TitaniumBackup simply reinstalls your applications and then restores their settings.
TitaniumBackup can restore your applications with any Firmware, and in theory even on other phones (it may not work with special System-apps but it surely works with most "user-apps")
So Clockworkmod is great if you want to play around with different firmwares, especially Custom ROMs.
You can install different ROMs, make a backup and very easy and fast switch between them.
For a "regular" backup TitaniumBackup is maybe the better choice, it can backup all your settings and applications and for example if a Firmware-update goes wrong simply restore anything.
There is no real need to backup the /system/-partition anyway, you can simply download the Firmware and flash it, there is no user-data on this partition.
sdcard and external_sd usually only contains media, which you probably have somewhere on your PC anyway, so there is no real need for a backup, maybe for the pictures and videos you make with your phone, but again you should copy this on your PC regularly anyway. And if you want you can easily copy everything on it as well.
What if I have 20gb of data , 10 of which are on phone, 10 on sd card, in this case i wouldn't be able to backup everything?
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Question is if I have my phone filled with games, different apps which make let's say 10 gb (not that much counting in that one game may be up to 1 gb), so how do i backup this? To SD card?[/quote]
Apps can´t be several GB in size on Android. Normally you have only around 2GB for Apps, if you use the App2SD-feature it can be expanded a bit.
If applications need a lot of data, for example like navigation-programs or games, they will download this on the first start and store this on the /sdcard/-partition.
As I said, you can access this easily like a removable drive and copy everything you like.
It isn´t also that important to make a backup of this, as it can be downloaded again anytime, and if something goes wrong it usually will mess up your system and don´t influence the data-partition anyway (well as long as you don´t repartition the whole memory)
Thank you, that does explain a lot!
I connected my S2, but i can't see to find any installed apps browsing through USB, or i shouldn't be seeing that?
Tomas
execine said:
Thank you, that does explain a lot!
I connected my S2, but i can't see to find any installed apps browsing through USB, or i shouldn't be seeing that?
Tomas
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No, they are stored in /data
You back that up using nandroid, then you restore it via nandroid and they will be there. What you see on your PC via USB is the "internal SD".
Understood, thank you. Things getting more clear after a week of reading and using the phone ))
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execine said:
I connected my S2, but i can't see to find any installed apps browsing through USB, or i shouldn't be seeing that?
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No, you see the (internal) /sdcard/ partition and (if present) the /external_sd/ (the MicroSD-card you have in your phone)
To simply backup your applications, the easiest way is TitaniumBackup.
This will store the .apk and settings for each up in a folder of your choice (on /sdcard/ or /external_sd/, as you usually have no direct access to the other partitions)
You can copy this folder on your PC, or even in the TitaniumBackup-folder of another phone and use it there.
There are several advantages using TitaniumBackup to save your Apps over CWM-recovery. You can use it with the enabled phone for example, and also just restore individual Apps, if you like.
Do the contents of my sd card have any effect on rom or after downgrade. I think i understand that some apps require 2.3.4 for compatibility reasons. After downgrading, rooting, can i use my previous sd card?
The contents of the sdcard can, but normally do not affect the ROM. Unity does store some stuff on the sdcard and android creates a few hidden folders for data. If the other ROM doesn't use the same storage, there should be no adverse consequences.
If your sdcard has multiple partitions; fat, ext, swap; then it will be more likely to cause issues. If you are just using it for storage then it shouldn't be an issue.
Be sure to move any PD15IMG files to a subfolder and you should be fine.
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Hopefully the PM was alright. I'll be sure to move the PD15IMG.zip to another folder. When using titanium backup for the apps i saved the data also. If, after rooting redownload the app and having the dropbox account and having saved the titanium backup data folder - should i be able to restore each app + data without having to save each data folder? I appreciate your help.
If you copied the titanium folder from the sdcard after running the backup, then yes, your data is saved too. Some apps will act a little funny if you do a restore of "app + data". With those, I restore the app only, then restore data only.
You may find it easier to put the titanium folder back on the sdcard before you download the app again. Then when the app initializes it will see the folder is already there and use the information in it.
Google's backup feature has been hit and miss with me when switching ROMs. Sometimes it installs all my apps from the market, some times only a few of them and usually none of them.
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Okay, I have yet to get mine, but will in a day or two (the Nexus 7) lol. I wanted to know if I installed TiBuPro on my N7, and needed to do a full wipe/factory reset or whatever when I am installing a custom ROM, will the TiBuPro backup be deleted since the backups will be stored on the internal storage since there is no external SD slot? I use TiBuPro on my One V just fine since it has an external SD card, but was worried if I follow steps to flashing custom ROM's and such, since the storage is internal, and wipes wipe everything if I will lose my backups?
That's a damn good question Freak, to be on the safe side I would just do the backup and then drag & drop the sdcard/TitanuimBackup folder to a computer.
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Once you understand the way nexus 7 works with storage you will understand more. Im not best person to explain. so .
As long as you do not format or delete /data/media your ti backup goo manager files roms and everything else there will still remain.. The cwm/ twrp skip erasing these directories (fake sd card so to speak) . I have installed many roms with few issues..
You can also use otg storage. Go into ti backup and set the default backup folder on a otg device.. same with twrp backup files.. Just plug in the device before you run either of the programs . with twrp to use otg for me anyway.. you have to boot into recovery . plug in the device reboot recovery and it will show up...
SO Simple answer is yes you can use TI BACKUP Just fine .. just know what to not format in recovery..
Im familiar with flashing new roms and have done so a few times, i just want to get familiar with keeping my data on my phone.
is the externalsd card folder on my phones internal memory wiped when i format data/factory reset and format cache?
what is the best method for keeping all my pictures I have taken and downloads folder. (are these in extsd folder?)
I currently use Helium to backup SMS/Wifi settings/home screen/dictionary.
Also, does my google account backup what apps i have, can they be restored properly when going through the new setup wizard screens after flashing my new rom? or will i need to manually reinstall all apps?
Does titanium backup, able to backup my pictures taken/screenshots/downloads?
callum_88 said:
Im familiar with flashing new roms and have done so a few times, i just want to get familiar with keeping my data on my phone.
is the externalsd card folder on my phones internal memory wiped when i format data/factory reset and format cache?
what is the best method for keeping all my pictures I have taken and downloads folder. (are these in extsd folder?)
I currently use Helium to backup SMS/Wifi settings/home screen/dictionary.
Also, does my google account backup what apps i have, can they be restored properly when going through the new setup wizard screens after flashing my new rom? or will i need to manually reinstall all apps?
Does titanium backup, able to backup my pictures taken/screenshots/downloads?
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Hi,
1.is the external sd card folder on my phones internal memory wiped when i format data/factory reset and format cache?
Everything on the internal storage gets wiped with a factory reset.
The external sd card is not affected.
2.what is the best method for keeping all my pictures I have taken and downloads folder. (are these in extsd folder?)
Direct the phones settings to store your photos on the external sd card.
Downloads should be moved with a file explorer.
3.Also, does my google account backup what apps i have, can they be restored properly when going through the new setup wizard screens after flashing my new rom? or will i need to manually reinstall all apps?
As long as you ticked Google to back up your apps , they should re-install themselves.
4.Does titanium backup, able to backup my pictures taken/screenshots/downloads?
No.
Manually transfer them to the external sd card with a file explorer.