I think they are going to turn this into a full Android "PC" and I use that term lightly. Why have a media streamer when you can have a do-all device at the same time? Just my thoughts and guesses.
I kinda doubt that:
1) PC's don't need internal amplifiers.
2) Not enough I/O (one USB doesn't cut it for general computing).
3) Would cut into Chromebox sales.
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I hope my inquiry does not sound stupid as I am not familiar with the smartphone modding scene.
I am looking to build or modify an Android device and turn it in to a high capacity media (Keyword: Media) player with around 1 TB of capacity since those morons at Apple won't get off their lazy asses and take the f*ing hard drive out of the iPod classic and slap it into an iPod Touch... I mean "iPhone with the phone"... idiots, anyways that is why I want to do this.
I have a large music collection, at 320kbps my music sits at about 450 GB and I would like to have a device that can hold all my music plus my favorite movies, TV shows, photos, and because I am looking at Android, my favorite Android games.
My first question is, is this possible or will I have to keep dreaming and hoping that some tech giant will clearly do what is technically possible today before I get old and die.
My second question is, I will need a custom ROM with a unique interface designed to be a media player and does not have a web browser, messaging app, etc... A ROM that functions like the iPod classic OS and supports everything iTunes supports including playcounts, ratings, smartplaylist, etc but designed for a touch screen player. Where would I find a ROM like this or who would make it.
how about trying "audio galaxy" ? before we go tearing **** apart and making custom Frankenstein creations . you will have every song on your computer available on your phone playlists all of that. with out a single file being on your device. it uses your phones data network, i guess its the cloud thing they talk about . i use it everyday i highly recommend it
So technically attaching a hard drive to a smart phone is possible. The biggest problem is size, a 1 tb drive is still a large drive, much larger than your phone. The bigger problem is power. Hard drives require tons and tons of power and even SSDs require a good chunk (on the order of one to two watts depending on operation). I know there are roms that focus on basic functionality but I don't know if any are geared specifically for being only music players.
I can offer u a 25%, including only a custom android os with music and video playback apps and wifi-bt-usb connectivity. And any app u need for ur media player. ( if u can buy a hd2 its the best for android-wp7.5 dual boot. And a lot of devs for it now)
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At this stage even 250 Gb,s is almost impossible without having an enourmous piece of hardware, and you will need a fast prossesor, and a HUGE battery, the UI is possible
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I suppose this would be possible. If your phone supports USB host mode, you could try simply using a 1TB external hard drive.
After some searching around, I came across an article on the topic.
Step 1
You need to prepare your external HDD by formatting it to FAT32. If you have stuff in your hard drive, which is in NTFS state, you should move it temporarily to some other media while you prepare your hard drive.
This is perhaps the only downside to this procedure. But depending on your usage you can make this step worth your effort. This is just a one time only step so don’t be afraid to carry out the arduous task of moving your items from and to your HDD.
Step 2
Connect your portable HDD to your tablet.
Step 3
Make sure your USB switch state is set to ‘Host’. Get this free USB Mode Switcher app if you don’t know how to do it.
Step 4
Switch to your file manager app and wait for it to detect your hard drive. It might take sometime for the app to detect your external drive during which time you should keep refreshing, but once it has detected, the streaming is flawless.
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Source:
http://hackslurp.com/2011/08/21/how...m-external-hard-drive-to-your-android-tablet/
Ok, so I've been trawling the threads for hours and the time has come to make my first post on this..
Here's what I really want to do, and whether or not, as I understand, I can do it:
Nexus 7 in dash, 3G model - fine, been done loads of times
250GB USB HDD, connected via USB OTG, containing my music library - possibly, depends on my hard drive? Will it work if I can provide a secondary source of power to the HDD (my caddy allows this)
Charge the N7 at the same time - again possibly, with CM10 and kernel mod? Also new to Android so shooting in the dark a bit here.
OPTIONAL/BACKUP IDEAS:
Wi-Fi drive of some sort - If it works then maybe, seems like an extreme option though for a car install.
Google Music and stream my entire collection (I have 15GB monthly data sim that I can use in the N7) - will work but not ideal for me. I have a lot of lossless music which I won't be able to take advantage of this way. Which brings me on to...
USB DAC through OTG cable - possible I know, but to do this on top of the other stuff is gonna be difficult and unreliable? Can live with just the headphone jack output for the time being, unless:
Utilise the pogo pins for a line out and charging - would be a nice solution in the car but again, possible?
It would be fantastic if someone could tie this all together simply for me somehow, or if anyone has any far better ideas for what I'm trying to do :good:
Also feel free to ridicule my noob-ness
Cheers
I've ordered my shield, it should arrive on the 23rd.
While I wait I thought I would get some suggestions for things I may want to do before it arrives; download software, buy any accessories, etc.
My current PC wont be able to stream with out something like SplashTop. I'm building a new rig in the next few months but until then I have to rely on the shield's hardware till then.
Section 1: PC Prep.
*note: I have never used an android device before, but I'm a quick adapter.
1• Is there any software I should get installed on my PC now before it arrives?
2• Is there any shield rom files I should look into at this point?
Section 2: Android-ware
I am sure this has been discussed a lot already:
1• As a first time Android user, could i get some suggestions for some of the better:
1•2 Games for the shield.
1•3 General Apps.
2• I am a big nostalgia gamer, love just about any and all consoles/hand-helds I can emulate, I was wondering which are the best emulators out there so far?
*by that I mean the name of the best emulator per console, not just what systems it can emulate.
Section 3: Accessories
1• Would like to know if there are any "must have" accessories to get for the shield, be they specific for the shield or a general product, I'd like to know.
2• I saw the Nyko docking unit, and know it isn't available yet. I was wondering would one of those wireless charge pad things work? If so can you suggest a good one?
Thanks for any and all suggestions.
On the PC part of the beauty of android compared to iOS or windows phone is the fact that you need *no* software. Plug micro USB into shield, plug other end into PC. It might do the installing device driver screen as a formality but after that it will be listed as a device in my computer, you can open it and browser around the contents of the SD card and Shield storage. Great huh?
Just drag and drop your music into the relevant folders, I no longer have a working android device so I dont recall what the correct folder actually is, I think it might be sdcard/media/audio, although creating a new folder called Music in the root directory of either the external SD or the internal storage (extsd and sdcard respectively) and sticking it in there works. There are itunes plugins for those that prefer them, think there is a way for windows media player to sync libraries too.
ROMs I dont think there are any for the Shield yet, one is being worked on but for now if your new to android, ignore.
Plenty of android games out there. 2 casual games to get started, beach buggy blitz and Dead Trigger (both support hardware controls hence why I mention them, and they are free). But seriously, there are tons.
I cant live without ES File Explorer. Beyond that, I tend to get BBC news and steam, I steer well clear of the facebook app as that just annoys me (browser it) but do keep twitter. None of them particularly support the shield controls though.
There are lists online of like the 50 must have android apps and games etc. Take a look at them.
Emulator wise someone posted a list of their favourite emulators for the shield covering quite a large range of console. The Shield will emulate anything right upto PS1 and N64. Might do more powerful still, but that would require someone to make an emulator for that. Anything below PS1 or N64 it should be fine with. Retroarch is meant to be a good start. Some consoles you may require a bios file first (primarily PS1) which is copyrighted material so no one on XDA can tell you where to get it unfortunately.
The wireless charge mats require a device which supports wireless charging. The shield doesnt. No one makes a skin for the shield with a wireless charge coil yet either (they did for some other devices). Only android accessory that I get as a must have is a USB host cable. Awesome little tools, microUSB plug on one side and a USB socket on the other so you can plug mice and keyboards into your android device. Otherwise, just make sure you have a micro USB cable around, maybe some headphones and a microSD.
Hi..
I am planning on starting a project to develop my idea of a PSD.
Essentially the primary goal is to bring many benefits of cloud storage, offline but always available in your pocket.
It will be a light weight, battery and USB powered portable SSD. It will run Linux, or rather, Android.
Some planned features:
- Bluetooth master and slave connectivity
- Custom apps will allow use of PSD as part of your normal Bluetooth PAN.
- This allows you to control and copy files from your smartphone and tablet with our app.
- Music can be played through bluetooth headphones.
- USB powered, charging, device and host (USB OTG) modes
- can act as media device or mass storage (or debug)
- can act as a host to sync files from memory cards, cameras, USB hard drives without a PC
- WiFi AP, WiFi Direct and WiFi connectivity
- can host a WiFi network, connect with WiFi direct or become part of an existing network.
- share files with multiple devices
- seamlessly expand a phone or tablet or pc or digital cameras storage
- HDMI output
- can be hooked up to HDMI capable display to show content, stream and play movies, pictures, etc.
- coupled with bluetooth or usb mouse and keyboard and it can be controlled directly.
- poss. model with optional ethernet+
- would poss. use two SSDs for RAID0 for data integrity.
- OpenSource! use it as a pocket webserver, a netflix box, whatever you want.
- device partitioning would allow all devices to have their own storage or share space as you wish.
I am hoping 256gb can be done for under $200, ideally $100.
My question is, would you want one??
I am going to put a plan together to try and crowdfund maybe $5000-$10000 to enable me to assemble a tiny team, get development tools and start building the prototypes and software in order to make it a truly functional and refined product before if or when it goes into production. I have all the expertise I need myself to design it, build it and write the software, but while I may be capable, two heads ARE better than one.. (hence opensource).. I will need some people to build the team to spearhead this....
Comments, feedback, coffee, peanuts, mayhem and doom appreciated.
After reading about the BoxeeBox scandal, I hope I can seriously generate some interest for developing this device, clearly it could have a lot of uses. I would love to make my project as open as possible, and keep it that way too.
I need to generate feedback and interest before I continue, while I want to involve the community as much as possible, someone (ie. me) has to get the ball rolling, I don't want to do that unless the interest is there.
Considering there is potential for the described device to do a lot of different things, and it will be open, feel free to suggest features, functions and use applications.
Even.if you have nothing to say, but are interested, please reply.
Hi. This is one of those things that must be so simple, but a Google search just comes up with pages and pages of totally unrelated nonsense. Hoping you guys can help me.
All I want to do is be able to mirror my Nvidia Shield TV to my smartphone screen. Not the phone to the NVidia Shield. Like a PS Remote Play but for the NvS TV. My room is within remote and gamepad range so an on screen pad is not necessary. Any help greatly appreciated.
Thanks
(P.S if anyone knows of any Kodi addons with 4k content...that would be awesome! - there were 2 but they have been discontinued)
Any luck or good leads?
"Allcast reciever"?
What app or apps are you suppose trying to get to your phone?
I've been looking into doing the same thing but to a note 4. I think I found a few ways that seems like they would work for media streaming if your Shield had root access or unrestricted app installation options. Things like allcast reciever and other casting options. They all seemed to have too much latency for gaming if that is what you were wanting to do.
I'm not sure if a chromecast can output audio and video using the HDMI port but that might work if it can do that?
The other issue with pulling this off os that I think the solution needs to be some sort of universal screen and audio mirroring, like googlecast, that doesn't care about what app it is mirroring. Otherwise you'll have to rely on the app that is on the shield being capable of casting, and the Nvidia Hub isn't as far as I know.
I search for terms like: Android to android screen mirroring, android remote display, android remote access, etc....nothing so far.
My most promising hope for doing something like this now are:
1. Making my phone somehow act as or emulate a display, TV, Monitor in a way that can utilize the output from the HDMI port of a SHIELD device. This would bypass all the various issues and complications with specific application capabilities and restrictions, though it is just a idea about how to work around the app issues, I have no idea if this would even be possible. I also don't know if anything that is coming out the HDMI port has any sort of HDCP protection. I would assume that some things would but I would also assume that most of those specific things are the kinds of things. I would just be casting via media players anyway.
2. I have a really REALLY fast LAN network, and I know I am able to remotely access my PC in various ways that are low latency and high performance as far as display and audio are concerned. So, assuming the latency could be kept low enough I have thought about working on getting what I want to access on an Nvidia shield device to my PC running Windows 10, then I can just access that from my phone.
I don't know if you're familiar with that saying about engineering which basically says: "It's not a question of what you want to do but how much you can pay to do it." I say that because there seem to be a couple of fairly good high end Headset based displays out there. One is called the "gylph" or something like that and I have looked fairly thoroughly into one or two others that seemed to be high quality and have reliable reviews and testing available to find online. Some didn't seem available for another year or two, and even then you are going to be dropping $500 to $1,000 for them.
3. Using something like Tridef 3d and a head mounted VR headset based display. I was able to get that working pretty well without too much effort from my PC. The Tri-def software creates a side by side view of the application that you tell it to from your PC. So I can basically get a display output from just about anything on my PC and use it with just about anything they can recieve display output from my PC or remotely view my computers display with low latency. I haven't looked too much to see if something similar to this software is available that can run on a shield device. I would assume they are powerful enough even if you had to scale things down just a little bit.
The kind of set up that could send from your SHIELD, to your PC, to your Head Mounted Display or VR headset could be have some interesting advantages if the overall network latency was low enough. Having the rendering of the initial source on one device and the side by side display conversion on another could have a lot advantages. I own a Samsung gear VR innovator edition headset that I can use with my note 4, but if I want to use it for more than 20 minutes I need to pre-cool my phone in the freezer and to get any significant amount of time I think I would need to develop fairly high performance cooling system. That obviously isn't very easy to do when you need it to interface with a phone you use daily and also be small and light enough to attach to something you're wearing on your face. The point is that doing anything more than receiving and audio and video stream on your phone is going to be very resource intensive for it to handle. Even maxing out the gigabit Wi-Fi on my land for my phone makes it really warm and consumes the battery at a very high rate.
Whatever you do if it is helpful I have connected a pluggable USB 2.0 to Gigabit LAN adapter to the shield portable and it more than doubled the network performance. I'm not sure what the actual LAN performance is on the SHIELD
TV but even if you didn't need to increase it you might be able to reduce latency by by separating the total network load between the internal Gigabit Ethernet port and a separate USB 2.0 or 3.0 lan adapter. I don't know enough about androids capabilities to use more than one network adapter simultaneously four separate purposes to know if that is possible.
Well, congratulations if you've made it this far into my post. I have obviously been exploring this kind of thing for a while but there is a lot potential out there and a lot things that I don't know about or understand thoroughly enough. It's nice to know I'm not completely alone in this specific ambition. Hopefully we can gather a few more people and make some progress with this thread!
...wow
Wow that is an indepth reply. Thanks!
I can tell you've put a lot of thought into this. You obviously have a better chance of pulling it off than I do! (I did read it all lol)
I'm basically wanting to be able to mirror the screen like the PS4 remote play. Not just specific apps.
The only reason I know it's possible is that the Playstation 4 handles it remarkably well. No noticable lag as long as you have a good wifi router. Those guys at Sony must be using some kind of black magic. Unfortunately, I'm not gonna be the one who figures this out. I'm in no way a software or network engineer....I am an electrical engineering student though.
Anyway it's also good for me to hear that I'm not alone here. I wouldn't be surprised if Nvidia were working on this right now or at some point in the near future. And I sold the 6P and bought a Note 5 by the way. Wasn't a fan of the 6P at all.
Anyone get this to work or find another solution?
Thanks