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Started to mess about with this earlier today, finally got the damn thing to work Turns out it is quite easy..
First, to get one thing straight, this will only boot the kernel, it will dump you at a shell which you have to remotely log on to via telnet over usb. There will be some (not so) fancy text appearing on your phone's screen but that is about it. Also, it only works on unlocked phones.
This is what you get:
On your computer you'll get this:
Cool, huh? Btw, this is running from a memory card, your OS will be untouched so as soon as you reboot the phone it will boot right back into WM2003/5/6.
1. What you need
* A HTC Typhoon running any rom of your choice (I did it on WM6).
* A miniSD memory card
* A Linux distro - I downloaded the Ubuntu Live CD and ran it through VMWare, no need to install anything or reboot your computer.
* miniSD image of Xanadux - this is the linux port for HTC devices. Grab the latest version here: http://rapidshare.com/files/92218185/Linux.zip.html
(these files are extracted from the miniSD image file found here: http://vivien.chappelier.free.fr/typhoon/download.html)
2. How to run linux on the Typhoon
1. Instead of installing linux properly on your phone which requires partitioning of the internal memory etc (a lot can go wrong) we'll put it on the memory card then a Windows Mobile program called HaRET will boot linux for us from WinCE. Completely non invasive in other words.
This bit is dead easy, just extract the Linux.zip file you just downloaded and copy the files to the root of your memory card (must be memory card, can't do this from the internal memory afaik). Next, go to the File Explorer on your phone and find the file HaRET.exe. Run it then press the run button (this button has focus when you execute HaRET.exe so just press the joystick when the windows appears) and you will see a message saying "Booting linux", then after a few seconds your screen will go black and some text will appear.
Voila! That's linux running on your phone!
2. Connect to the phone via telnet
If read the last line of text that appeared on screen you'll see that it says "Press enter to activate this console" but no matter what buttons you press on the phone nothing happens, some gibberish appears but that's it.
Solution: telnet to the phone from your computer.
Get Ubuntu to boot on your computer, then go to Applications->Accessories and run the Terminal. Next type in the following commands:
Code:
modprobe cdc_ether
modprobe usbnet
ifconfig usb0 up 192.168.9.1
and finally
Code:
telnet 192.168.9.10
Login with username root and you'll find yourself at a shell like the screenshot above. Everything you see from now on is coming linux from your phone!
I've noticed that Xanadux doesnt always initialise the USB port unless it is connected via USB when booting up so make sure you always have your phone connected via USB when you run HaRET.
Now I'm going to try to figure out how to get the GSM module to work...
LINUX based ROM??
Hi shandar,
I have read your post and I am interested to know if you are cooking a LINUX based ROM that will run in a WIndows Mobile device? That would be too good to be true.
Also another question is do you need to have Linux running on your desktop to make this tutorial work?
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Hi shandar,
I have read your post and I am interested to know if you are cooking a LINUX based ROM that will run in a WIndows Mobile device? That would be too good to be true.
Also another question is do you need to have Linux running on your desktop to make this tutorial work?
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Hey, well, I don't know enough to make a linux rom for smartphones. I'd love a working linux distro for Typhoons & Windows Mobile phones in general but it is way out of my league unfortunately.
Btw, I probably should clarify that I only wrote the tutorial, the actual linux port is made by someone else.
I really need some help please! I think I may have done something very bad. I have a tmobile mytouch 3g. I was trying to update from cyanogenmod 4.2.1.9. I was using a darkstar theme from ringer nation.
Here’s where I think i screwed myself. I am fairly new to all this stuff so I was trying to find a guide on how to update the mod and instead of doing it properly by adding the files to the sd card, doing a wipe, and then installing everything. I instead messed up and did an install of sapping.nbh and basically followed all the directions to originally root the phone. Including formatting the sd card and everything. When I realized that i was doing this all wrong I was still able to load my os and everything seemed ok. I was getting a sd card error that said that the card was blank or had an unsupported file system, but I was able to mount it so, I erased everything off the card and then put the cyanogen update and the drc83_base file and attempted to load into recovery and do the update.
I loaded into and did a wipe. I attempted to follow the instructions on upgrading from the cyogen page. (God I wish I had found that page first) But after I did the wipe and I attempt to Apply any from SD I get “error: sd card is not mounted”
When I attempt to reboot the phone it goes to the tmobile mytouch logo, THEN it goes to my them logo from Ringer Nation, then it just goes to a black screen I let it sit there for like 5 minutes to see what would happen, but nothing. So I took out the battery and sim. I can get into recovery though so I hope that someone can help me figure out where to go from there.I thought that since I had done a wipe that the theme would have been deleted as well? This is weird.
I did do a nandroid backup before. Hopefully that will prove to be helpful. Sorry for the long post, but I wanted to dump as much useful information about this problem so that hopefully someone will be able to help! BTW I'm using a mac with the latest snow leopard software.
As I am desperate for help, please reach out to me via aim – icolinirie or via email
Thank you in advance for everything. This is a great community, and all of Cyanogen’s work is greatly appreciated!!
EDIT: I really need some help! Here's some more information. I have a Magic 32B. Its running Cyanogenmod v1.4 + JF Recovery.
From what I have gathered I need to adp into my phone in order to get it to mount. Anyone know how to do this on a mac. I am trying, but I don't fully understand. I have created the .bash_profile from terminal and typed the following "export PATH=${PATH}:/Users/itunes/Documents/android-sdk-mac_86/tools" which is the path to the tools file in the sdk. I am just stuck at this point. I don't know what to do from here.
Hi I quote.
Install SDK utilities you need to connect your PC to your phone
You can download the full SDK from the Android Developer website for your platform
http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html
You'll need to download the SDK appropriate for your platform and extract it into a directory somewhere. I'm going to assume you're using Windows here and suggest you extract it into a folder called
C:\AndroidSDK\
on your hard disk. You can put it anywhere you like really, but if you do you'll need to substitute it for the folder above.
Add the tools directory to your system path for easy access
In Windows it's easy to add the Android SDK Tools directory to your system path. Doing this lets you use the Android SDK tools anywhere and makes it easier for you.
On Windows XP: Go to Control Panel->System, Choose the 'Advanced' tab and then click 'Environment Variables' To do this on Vista/Windows7: Simply go to Control Panel->System and choose 'Advanced System Settings' and then 'Environment Variables'
Now that you've got here locate Path under System Variables and click Edit, then add the following to the end of the string displayed:
;C:\AndroidSDK\tools\
Then click OK until you get out of the menus.
Now that you've done this you should be able to bring up a command shell and type 'adb' and it should run straight away without needing to change path.
Please note that you can skip this step completely if you find it too complicated - however you will need to CD to the ?AndroidSDK\tools every time you open up a command prompt so it's worthwhile doing. I'm going to assume you have made the change above in all further examples as it gets too complicated really. If you're not confident in a DOS shell, I'd suggest you do a little bit of reading up on basic navigation in DOS first.
Enable Debugging mode on the phone before connecting to PC and installing the ADB driver
Menu > Settings > Applications > Developement > USB Debugging
Install the USB drivers correctly - check using "adb devices".
If you have already connected your phone to your computer before then the USB drivers are probably already loaded. If you're lucky then typing 'adb devices' in a command prompt will produce something like:
C:\AndroidSDK>adb devices
List of devices attached
XXXXXXXXXXXX device
Where XXXXXXXXXXXX is the serial number of your phone. If it doesn't produce that line, then you need to check Device Manager and ensure the device drivers for your phone were installed correctly.
If you are having issues installing the ADB driver, you need to connect your phone then go into Device Manager and check the ADB device properties. Check the following property and it'll look something like:
Device Instance Id: USB\VID_0BB4&PID_0C02&MI_01\7&293A7D0D&0&0001
To fix the driver installation problem, you need to edit the driver's .ini file and change all the references of 0C03 to 0C02, or 0C02 to 0C03 if your device property states your Device Id is 0C03.
Note: After flashing a new ROM, your Device Id may change again to either 0C03 or remain as 0C02. So you need to update the .ini file again as above to refelect the change and re-install the driver. Another known way to fix the above issue is to download and install HTC Sync - this seems to install the correct drivers.
How to use ADB
ADB stands for Android Debugging Bridge - it's a useful way of talking to your handset while it's running. ADB provides commands for copying files to and from your phone, installing packages and debugging your Android applications.
Useful commands include:
adb devices - lists which devices are currently attached to your computer
adb install <packagename.apk> - lets you install an Android application on your phone
adb remount - Remounts your system in write mode - this lets you alter system files on your phone using ADB
adb push <localfile> <location on your phone> - lets you upload files to your phones filesystem
adb pull <location on your phone> <localfile> - lets you download files off your phones filesystem
adb logcat - starts dumping debugging information from your handset to the console - useful for debugging your apps
adb shell <command> - drops you into a basic linux command shell on your phone with no parameters, or lets you run commands directly
How to use Fastboot
Fastboot is another boot method and is used to drop the phone into a safe mode to load/flash alternate roms. You need USB debugging turned on before you can use Fastboot mode - so I'd recommend you do this first (under Settings->Applications->Development->USB Debugging). You will also need to power off your phone first (hold down Power and select Power Off) and then hold down the Back+Power Buttons to start the phone in Fastboot mode. You will need your USB cable connected to be able to issue any commands and assuming your drivers are correct you should be able to issue:
C:\AndroidSDK>fastboot devices
List of devices attached
XXXXXXXXXXXX fastboot
Other commands in this mode include - we'll cover these below in subsequent sections.
fastboot boot <filename> - boots a rom stored on your pc specified by the filename
fastboot flash <partition> <filename> - flashes a rom stored on your pc, partition can be one of {boot, recovery, system, userdata}
fastboot binaries for mac and linux can be found here.
3. Learn how to use fastboot and boot a recovery rom
Download a recovery rom for your device
There are several different recovery roms available for the HTC Magic devices.
Amon_RA has created several nice recovery roms available from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=530492 and get the Recovery Rom appropriate for your device - these recovery roms have Nandroid Backup and Nandroid Restore and are perfect for the average user.
You can also use Cyanogen's 1.3.1 Recovery ROM available for: PVT32A devices and PVT32B devices - this rom has some additional options for partitioning your SD card for ?Apps2SD/Swapper/etc.
Fastboot the recovery rom
Fastbooting a rom doesn't write anything to your device - it just loads it directly from your PC - so it's a completely safe way of fixing/recovering/backing up your existing rom. To fastboot a rom you need to first drop your phone into Fastboot mode and check that it's working. Now drop into a command shell and make sure the recovery image you're wanting to load is in the same directory that you're running this in. If it's called something other than recovery-rom.img then substitute that instead.
C:\AndroidSDK> fastboot boot recovery-rom.img
If you are having problems changing the directory in the command prompt, just make a copy of the command prompt .exe itself, and place it in the folder that contains the recovery rom, then run the above command.
And once again, if you have a perfected SPL which does not allow remote fastboot, you will have to fix it first.
Use the Recovery Rom to Backup your current ROM with Nandroid
Once you've booted to a recovery rom - you can use the Nandroid Backup option. If you get a 'cannot mount /dev/mkblkxxx error' when you do this then check your microSD card is inserted correctly and if so, wait a few seconds for it to register to the recovery rom correctly. If at first you don't succeed, try, try again (sdcard can take a few seconds to mount!)
You do not need to be a rocket scientist to do this.
you can use the ADB to put in recovery again by fast boot
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=530492
Hey! First off Thanks for the reply! I really appreciate someone chiming in to throw some advice my way! But while reading your thread you described the instructions for windows. In this case I have a macbook pro running snow leopard.
I did download the android sdk to my documents folder and I understand that I need to execute some scripts from the terminal on my mac to get things running. But I really dont know what those scripts are or what exactly to do.
I can get into the recovery mode on the MyTouch by holding power and home when powering on. So do I open the console from the recovery screen on the mytouch and then run the scripts on the terminal from my macbook? And which scripts should I run to get the sd card mounted onto my desktop (that is what I'm trying to do). Im not too sure what to do from there either. I want to get the phone back to stock android 1.5 os so that I can root again. My sd card has to be corrupted because it keeps giving me an error saying that it wont mount when I try to do a fix file systems or try anything from that menu. What to do??
What!
can you get in the recovery?
Yeah I can get into cyanogen v1.4 recovery. I'm just stuck from there.
Ok ok If I understand this correctly then you are not briced. you do not have any imag on your phone.
if you do not have anything nadroid recovery on sdcard you must enter a new ROM on the sdcard and flash it
remember full wipe.!
Yes this is what I believe I must do. But I need to either find a way to mount my SD card from the phone while it is in recovery mode (cyanogen v1.4). That's my problem.. I wish there was an easier way to get it mounted onto my mac from the recovery screen. I think I'm just going to go to best buy tomorrow and get a micro sd card reader and maybe another sd card just in case.
Once I have done that though. What files should I put onto the sd card in order to flash it back to original factory android 1.5.
What do you think?
Good idea
I have never used cyanogen v1.4 recovery
I use the recovery-RA-sapphire-v1.5.2H.img and ther you can use USB togle in recovery mode, You must go to the store to buy the adapter that fits on your Mac, I have two adapters for your Mac, you can borrow
Yeah that's the plan for tomorrow. Thanks for the offer man. But I'm in Los Angeles, Ca LOL!! Where are you?
icolinirie said:
Yeah that's the plan for tomorrow. Thanks for the offer man. But I'm in Los Angeles, Ca LOL!! Where are you?
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Bergen . norway.
http://maps.google.no/maps?f=s&utm_...o-google-gm&utm_medium=ha&utm_term=google map
OMG! WOW! Looks like a beautiful place! LA is a concrete jungle but beautiful in its own respects. Bergen looks like a very comfortable place! I enjoy finding out about these things. Maybe someday I'll visit. I'd definitely love to!
icolinirie said:
OMG! WOW! Looks like a beautiful place! LA is a concrete jungle but beautiful in its own respects. Bergen looks like a very comfortable place! I enjoy finding out about these things. Maybe someday I'll visit. I'd definitely love to!
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it is sick cold. I'll take one picture out the window
We now know that the new vibrant phones have the hardware key disabled to enter recovery mode. But these phones are not defective. The hardware key has been purposefully disabled as part of a misplaced strategy to secure a phone that has basically no security built into it.
Therefore it is really easy to gain root access to these phones. However the process requires the use of the adb program that is part of the google android sdk. This program likes to run on a 32-bit linux distribution. Since it will not run on a 64 bit system, here is how I managed to gain root access to my phone:
1. Download the sdk from google.
2. Boot into linux on a 32 bit machine. (I used ubuntu live cd on an old Toshiba laptop with an available linux partition to mount on the hd. Your mileage may vary.)
3. If you are not using ubuntu make sure that your c library is compatible.
4. Install the google android sdk on the hd linux partition, e.g. /home/android.
5. Plug your Samsung vibrant into the usb port on the linux machine.
The following steps are specific to ubuntu. The important thing to remember is that the adb program must run its server as root to gain the access we desire.
6. Start the terminal app: Applications > Accessories > Terminal
7. Mount the partition and change to the sdk directory:
sudo mount /dev/sda2 /media
cd /media/*/home/android/tools
7. Start the adb server:
sudo ./adb start-server
8. Make sure your device is recognized:
./adb devices
If you do not see your device connected you have some troubleshooting to do.
9. Reboot your phone into recovery mode:
./adb reboot recovery
Congratulations! You just gained root access to your hardware locked vibrant.
This message has been posted by my old g4 laptop while tethered through t-mobile 3g using wireless tether on my brand new Samsung vibrant.
M_T_M said:
Hmmmm..good enough to stick!
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Yeah it's good, but you should move this thread to Samsung Vibrant forum.
This works on any android phone.
Although the method was inspired by the desire to use my vibrant as a g3 modem, the adb program is a general android maintenance tool that runs on linux. So it really doesn't matter what kind of phone you have. Once you have started the adb-server as root the reboot command will boot any android phone plugged into the linux box.
Spiaatie said:
Yeah it's good, but you should move this thread to Samsung Vibrant forum.
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I know, I know mate .....I'll do it later...
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Although the method was inspired by the desire to use my vibrant as a g3 modem, the adb program is a general android maintenance tool that runs on linux. So it really doesn't matter what kind of phone you have. Once you have started the adb-server as root the reboot command will boot any android phone plugged into the linux box.
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Would this also work for the new T-mobile G2 4G ?
I'm sure we will be seeing more locked phones besides the vibrant and g2. This fix should work for them all. The adb-server gives you root access to your phone provided that you have root access to the machine upon which it runs.
r2d4 said:
I'm sure we will be seeing more locked phones besides the vibrant and g2. This fix should work for them all. The adb-server gives you root access to your phone provided that you have root access to the machine upon which it runs.
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Keep in mind that no matter what you do on the G2, it'll be wiped on reboot. You can gain root temporarily, but when you reboot, it's gone
Installing the root update
tjhart85 said:
Keep in mind that no matter what you do on the G2, it'll be wiped on reboot. You can gain root temporarily, but when you reboot, it's gone
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If you want to keep root after your next reboot, you need to update your filesystem. The first step is to install the programs busybox and su.
Before you boot into recovery mode, make sure you have the update.zip file downloaded onto your phone's internal memory card. Whatever is on this card will be left alone even upon a factory reset. But the phone's internal memory will be wiped. The update.zip file merely installs those two programs to the internal memory and doesn't wipe anything.
1. Download the root update for your phone. Rename the file update.zip and place it on the root directory of your device's internal flash memory.
2. Once you are in recovery mode, use the volume keys to scroll and the power key to select "reinstall packages". (This works on the vibrant. The g2 may be slightly different.)
3. Your phone will reboot and you will find the Superuser app has been installed. This app lets you grant root access to applications that need it.
Now you can download powerful apps from the market to gain even more control over your phone.
I hope this helps.
Does boot with a live CD of 32 bit ubuntu on my AMD64 work?? or do i need to boot on a computer with a 32bit processor as well?
Is there any way to take a full backup of our phone like ghost in windows
so if wy try a new rom and we dont like it to put back the backup rom and everithing works fine again.
Not a program that will take backup only the app.
thank you.
There's two ways as far as I know:
You can use Clockworkmod Recovery, check this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1377390&highlight=clockworkmod+recovery
This is the best solution for testing ROMs, but will not be as good as the next:
Another way is to use a pc to backup everything: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1374511
This method will protect you even better than Recovery, but requires a Linux-based computer and access to the pc when you want to go back to another ROM. It will also be a better protection against bricking your phone.
Basically, you want to flash ClockworkMod Recovery (follow the instructions in the thread), boot it up ("Usage" in the thread) and navigate to "backup and restore". Take a backup. To go back to a backup, do the same, but press "restore".
For the second solution proposed by the32bits you just need an usb stick and install Ubuntu (or any other linux) on it. Now you can boot Ubuntu from the usb stick and make your backups.
Just in case you have a windows pc
but i dont know how to use ubuntu is there a guide to tell me what to do when i run ubuntu ( something like copy paste from phone to ubuntu or there is a comand )
Take a look at this tutorial thread by Bonowax. You have to enter the commands mentioned there in terminal (command line).
hey guys, for those that havnt seen it today Ubuntu has been released for the Nexus 7 and for both 8GB and 16GB Models! wondering if anyone in the community has figured out how to dual boot it or if it is even possible? thanks all!
Heres the link of how to install if your wondering
What you will need:
Nexus 7 Tablet (8GB or 16GB)
Standard MicroUSB Cable (should come with the device)
Ubuntu Nexus 7 Desktop Installer installed on your development system
Ubuntu 12.04 LTS or Later
Optional
Micro USB Host Cable (OTG Cable) - used for attaching keyboard, mouse, etc. Directions on how to get and use one of these are towards the bottom of this page.
Ubuntu Nexus 7 Desktop Installer
A simple one-click installer has been provided, and is available in a PPA.
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-nexus7/ubuntu-nexus7-installer
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install ubuntu-nexus7-installer
Usage instructions for the installer are provided below.
Unlocking the Nexus 7
The Nexus 7 ships with a locked bootloader. You must unlock it in order to flash different images to the device. Fortunately, this is a trivial process, and you only need to do it once.
Warning: Unlocking the bootloader erases all data and resets the device to factory defaults.
Reboot the Android device into the Android boot loader. To do this, hold the volume down button and press the power button. Continue holding the volume down and power buttons until you see the boot loader UI. The device now displays the boot loader GUI, which looks like this:
Verify fastboot lists the device:
$ sudo fastboot devices
1234567891234567 fastboot
Start the bootloader unlock process:
sudo fastboot oem unlock
You are prompted on screen to unlock the bootloader on the Android device screen. Follow the on-screen directions to continue. Your screen should now look like this:
Complete the process by rebooting:
sudo fastboot reboot-bootloader
Or simply press the power button.
Installing Ubuntu on Nexus 7
Once all setup has been completed, the installation can start. To install, ensure the Nexus 7 is in fastboot mode, plug it into your computer (and make sure NO OTHER DEVICES are plugged in).
Find the installer in the dash (search for 'nexus'):
This will provide a Graphical Interface for installing Ubuntu. This tool will download the latest image automatically, and flash it accordingly. The flashing step should take about 2 minutes. Once the flashing is complete, the device will reboot and finish the installation. This step can take 10-15 minutes.
Returning your Nexus 7 to Stock Android
Warning: Disconnect ALL other mobile devices connected from your computer or they might get erased too. This will erase ALL DATA on your Nexus 7.
In case anything happens while developing, the system image for Nexus 7 can be found here: https://dl.google.com/dl/android/aosp/nakasi-jro03d-factory-e102ba72.tgz
After downloading the above tarball, uncompress it with the following:
tar zxvf nakasi-jro03d-factory-e102ba72.tgz
Then, place your machine into fastboot mode and run the resulting script:
cd nakasi-jro03d/
sudo ./flash-all.sh
You may get the following warnings, which you can ignore, the restoration will continue anyway.
archive does not contain 'boot.sig'
archive does not contain 'recovery.sig'
archive does not contain 'system.sig'
Troubleshooting the Install
If you have problems installing the image, please use the following troubleshooting steps:
Detach the USB cable, restart the tablet back into fastboot mode, and re-attach the USB cable.
If problems persist, reboot your host PC.
If you still have issues, try a different USB cable.
If you have a 16G tablet, try using the 8G image.
If you still have issues after doing all this, return the image to stock using the directions above and re-try.
If none of that works, ask a question on Ask Ubuntu using the mobile tag, or ask for help in the #ubuntu-arm channel on freenode. If you believe it's a bug, file a bug against ubuntu-nexus7 in Launchpad.
Ehm, do i miss something or is this ubuntu only installation?
Edit: i mean, not dual boot, but only ubuntu
Do I need a mouse and a keyboard to use Ubuntu? Or I can also without them?
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Do I need a mouse and a keyboard to use Ubuntu? Or I can also without them?
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it has a built in touch keyboard/mouse, so you can do either way
you can use a touch screen for it, mouse and keyboard is compatible
what do you mean ubuntu only install?
sorry if you mis understood, but i posted the guide there but i am also curious if theres a dual boot avaliable.
is bluetooth not usable in the in ubuntu while installed?
And I saw this install method over at androidcentral.com and I dont recall it being dualboot. It did a complete install of ubuntu only and erased android from the device
As of right now, dual-booting is not an option, however, this build did just come out today, and in the coming weeks, we'll likely have many updates and options, so i'd hang tight. Needless to say, it's a great experience
yess dual boot will be awesome.
Download and follow the instructions in the complete Linux installation guide. (Its an app in the play store) It works pretty well and you can use Ubuntu, Debian and a few others without wiping your system. I prefer the Ubuntu lite version. Something else to try out
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app
technolust109 said:
what do you mean ubuntu only install?
sorry if you mis understood, but i posted the guide there but i am also curious if theres a dual boot avaliable.
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Why did you title the thread as "Dual Boot Ubuntu" then?? Confused as well.
Change your thread title,its misleading.
yes my question was about dual booting, sorry if theres any confusion caused.
Folks, it's not that hard of a question when you actually read what the poster states. CURRENTLY, THERE IS AN INSTALLER THAT INSTALL UBUNTU TO THE NEXUS 7, BUT DOING THIS WILL CAUSE THE DEVICE TO BE FULLY WIPED FIRST REMOVING ANDROID. HE IS WONDERING IF THERE COULD BE [OR IS] AN INSTALLER THAT INSTALLS UBUNTU ALONGSIDE ANDROID TO BE ABLE TO BOOT THE DEVICE TO EITHER OS AS THE USER WISHES [ ALSO ASKING IF DUAL BOOTING BETWEEN THE 2 IS EVEN POSSIBLE.SO HE KNOWS IF IT IS WORTH HIS TIME TO INVEST IN MAYBE FIGURING IT OUT ON HIS OWN]. I am going to assume some form of dual booting would be possible as Linux bootloaders are generally very capable of booting OSes that use environments totally different from itself.
I am wondering the same thing as I am a very good technical user who can deal with a lot of issues, but have never gotten deep in to the programming side of things. I am shocked that for such an alpha build [really flaky Bluetooth, [Wi-Fi is solid] Unity crashes quite often and nVidia has had sucky Linux driver support for years now [wish they would take Linux more seriously but hey at least they have drivers]]. All leads to a painful experience for most [especially if you are not a nerd or techie and not used to dealing with very new alpha Linux type issues, if you don't mind it it does work].
Why wouldn't they have set it up as a dual boot to begin with? That way if you know something you need to get done can be done in Android and not in Ubuntu then you could just restart and choose the different OS. Not to mention if this is for modders and enthusiasts to test bed things on the tablet then they are going to most likely be some Android developers to start who would love to say use Eclipse to develop Android code for whatever and then oh no restart in to Android to I dunno test their work.
All that to say PLEASE SOMEONE WITH THE KNOW HOW let's figure out a way to fully dual boot a NATIVE Linux [not that install a loop file system and have it use VNC server to view the session junk you see on the Play Market, it's quaint and all, but not nearly as nice as a full Linux with full access to the hardware [I use it too, much love to backtrack] but am dying to dual boot an Android/More full [ I REALLY want Backtrack 5+ but Ubuntu would be worth keeping around until Backtrack gets around to working out their builds to be dual boot on some Android based systems] Linux as needed.
The approach that the Boot Manager app uses would probably work. They modify the /boot partition to point to a different device for /data than normal. Then you can switch between ROMs by flashing a different /boot partition. They automatically bundle the /boot partition into an update.zip and store them next to the image file on you SD card.
thanks for clearing it out RealPariah! by the way your username link to the band pariah orr? Cheers.
I would like to try this but what's the best/easiest way to back up my system? (I.e. app and game save data as well as for directory bind and folder structures). I tried clockworks backup process before, but I either did it wrong or it doesn't cover everything.
Can I just copy paste everything from my root folder?
Nikguy said:
I would like to try this but what's the best/easiest way to back up my system? (I.e. app and game save data as well as for directory bind and folder structures). I tried clockworks backup process before, but I either did it wrong or it doesn't cover everything.
Can I just copy paste everything from my root folder?
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you might want to try and use titanuium backup and copy out the entire "titanium backup" folder onto your computer, so when you revert back to android you should be able to copy it back in and restore from titanium backup. hope it works.
technolust109 said:
you might want to try and use titanuium backup and copy out the entire "titanium backup" folder onto your computer, so when you revert back to android you should be able to copy it back in and restore from titanium backup. hope it works.
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Huh great idea! Thanks, I'll give it a shot
all good mate! good luck!