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By now folks realize there are different hardware variances for the touchscreen which is one reason why some people have issues and others do not.
Don't you hate it when you have a workable system, then an update comes along which fixes something, let's say GPS, but then your touchscreen goes down the tubes? Suddenly you have dead spots, dead bands, ghost/phantom touches, stuck touches, broken drags, etc. Touchscreen works ok when held or plugged in, but is unusable on a table?
Never fear, I've put together packages to handle 3 different variances of the touchscreen.
I was able to make the touchscreen usable again on 3 of 4 test units. The 4th was always bad even out of the box so it might be hopeless for that one.
I do NOT claim this will fix everyones' touchscreen and that isn't even the goal as it might be an impossible task.
The goal is to make 70-80% of the problem units usable (again), but even if only 50% become usable this is an improvement over the current situation.
On to the packages:
In the attached boot-ts.7z file you'll find 4 files:
boot-ts10-lock.img
boot-ts20-lock.img
boot-ts30-lock.img
boot-ts-unlock.img
the ts10, ts20, and ts30 packages handle 3 variances on the touchscreen
You basically try each one to see which works best for your particular touchscreen.
Once you find one (and hopefully you do) then it is locked in place so future updates won't mess up your touchscreen again. No more OTA performance anxiety.
Now let's say there is an update in the future which has touchscreen fixes you want to use, that is where the 4th package comes into play. Once you use the ts-unlock image, you will once again be using touchscreen updates from the manufacturer. If that update doesn't work out, you can go back and use the ts10/20/30 package that was working for you.
Ok, so how does all this work?
I tried to make the process as simple as possible (has been tested on JWR66N, JSS15J, and JSS15Q, will work on LTE and custom ROMs also):
Your bootloader must be UNLOCKED to use these packages. Unlocking your bootloader is covered in this post.
unpack the boot-ts.7z package using 7-zip
you'll be left with a boot-ts directory with the aforementioned files
connect your tablet by USB
make sure USB debugging is enabled
Settings->About tablet [tap "Build number" 7 times]
Settings->Developer options [check "USB debugging"]
you can find adb/fastboot drivers HERE
in a command prompt in the boot-ts directory type (commands in italics)
adb reboot bootloader
wait for the bootloader screen to come up
alternatively use Power+VolDown to get to the bootloader/fastboot screen
fastboot boot boot-ts10-lock.img
this is how you try out package ts10
the screen will hang for 18-24 seconds, this is NORMAL, do not touch
this does NOT flash over your existing kernel
wait until Android is COMPLETELY booted
Note: if you are on Android 4.4 the stock 4.3 kernel will not get past the BouncingBalls
wait 120 seconds for the boot to settle down
press/hold the Power button 10-15 seconds until the tablet reboots
proceed to next step
adb reboot
after booting to Android you MUST reboot at least once
IGNORE any instability up to this point, it is expected
if adb reboot does not work for some reason, use the power button to shutdown/reboot
once you are booted into Android the 2nd time, try out the touchscreen and see if it feels usable
if there is instability, give it one more reboot back into Android before judging
if things are not working acceptably
repeat step #3, with ts20, and ts30 if needed
hopefully between ts10, ts20, and ts30, you will have found a package that works for you
there is nothing else for you to do
you can reboot and use your normal ROMs, custom ROMs, stock kernels, custom kernels, etc.
your touchscreen package is locked in place and won't change unless you want it to
if you want to go back to the way it was before and/or you want a future touchscreen update from the manufacturer
repeat step #3 using boot-ts-unlock.img
upon first reboot you will have the touchscreen software from the installed ROM/kernel
Please post feedback with:
the version of software you are running
what was/is broken
whether any of the packages helped
Remember to click thanks if you find this useful.
That's it folks, hope this helps somebody.
very interesting! lots of FC after loading the file, cant really "Power off using power button" because of FC-windows, using adb reboot instead.
current ROM: [ROM][CM10.2][4.3][CyanogenMod FLO Kangs][DJL10.2][LINARO][Build 10-TEST][2013/08/27]
ts-10: no more jumping in google maps while zooming/panning, but still jumping in other apps. after second reboot, starts jumping in maps again. after third reboot, no jumping on rightside of screen.
screenshot using two fingers
ts-20: lots of jumping on right side of the screen, zooming/panning in gmaps is still jumpy. after third reboot, still jumpy in gmaps.
ts-30: still jumps of right side of the screen, just a few mm from the right bezel,zooming/panning in gmaps is still jumpy. after second reboot, same effect. after third reboot, still jumpy on right side of screen.
so what exactly are in those files?
neonlite said:
very interesting! lots of FC after loading the file, cant really "Power off using power button", using adb reboot instead.
tried ts-10. no more jumping in google maps while zooming/panning, but still jumping in other apps, will try others.
so what exactly are in those files?
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When you say lots of FCs, can you tell me what ROM/version you are running?
You should IGNORE any instability in that first boot. While you can boot into android using the files I'm providing (and in some cases run fine), there could be mismatches in versions depending on what you have currently installed, which is why I say in RED you must reboot at least once before the system will become stable.
Once you do that reboot, you are back on your original software with just the touchscreen controller updated.
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ts-30: still jumps of right side of the screen, just a few mm from the right bezel,zooming/panning in gmaps is still jumpy. after second reboot, seems most stable.
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You must IGNORE any results from that first boot for all the packages, especially since you are running CM because (on that first boot) you are essentially running CM with a stock kernel without any kernel mods CM may need.
On CM I would actually not pass judgment until perhaps a second reboot.
One shouldn't have as much instability in that first boot if they are running a stock ROM.
Can you compare the behavior to what you had before trying them out?
I presume you had some issues before, hence trying these out.
sfhub said:
You must IGNORE any results from that first boot for all the packages, especially since you are running CM because (on that first boot) you are essentially running CM with a stock kernel without any kernel mods CM may need.
On CM I would actually not pass judgment until perhaps a second reboot.
One shouldn't have as much instability in that first boot if they are running a stock ROM.
Can you compare the behavior to what you had before trying them out?
I presume you had some issues before, hence trying these out.
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yes, ignored all FC's. no problem.
ts-10 is running perfectly, no more jumpy stuff. maps/right side of screen, hold and drag working great too.
I really appreciate how much effort you've put into helping others with troubled devices here.
Could we get some clarification on what exactly the 3 packages are? Are these touchscreen settings customized by you or simply the settings from each of the 3 versions of 4.3 we have had available to us?
You sent me here from the other thread and i must thank you, the ts10 one worked fine and now no screen problems, cancelled my replacement. Just a question though, if you tap hard on the camera corner of the tablet whilst holding it in the air, do you hear a small rattle?
It is the touchscreen controller software.
pashinator said:
Just a question though, if you tap hard on the camera corner of the tablet whilst holding it in the air, do you hear a small rattle?
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Every unit has the rattle. Some louder than others. It is normal. Possibly the lens or focusing mechanism.
sfhub said:
Every unit has the rattle. Some louder than others. It is normal. Possibly the lens or focusing mechanism.
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cool i thought i broke it by bashing it to get the screen to work again
i've been a long time lurker at the xda forums and your multitouch fix made me register and become a member just to say thanks. ts10 fixed my multitouch issues, going to observer for a few more days and update you if there are bugs. thanks a lot!
My tablet was working perfectly on the JSS15J then JSS15Q came along and I found letters "sticking" while typing and the screen was unresponsive to touch while laying flat on a table. I flashed the ts-10-lock image and so far, so good. I have been typing for awhile now with no "sticking" letters, and while laying flat on a table. I have not encountered the unresponsive screen at all flat on its back or otherwise. I will continue running through scenarios that used to give me problems and report back if I encounter anything. Also, running Bulletproof kernel and no impact with kernel functions.
Thank you sfhub!
Can anyone verify if placing the N7 on a Macbook Pro keyboard still triggers the multitouch craziness with the patch?
This is the video of my N7 placed on my MBPs' keyboard.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H05N1P0dpTo
Can this really be only a software problem?
I am not really experiencing other touchscreen issues with my N7 except for some very rare stuck touches. This one I triggered by accident.
bandit_knight said:
Can anyone verify if placing the N7 on a Macbook Pro keyboard still triggers the multitouch craziness with the patch?
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So this guy goes to the doctor's office and says my head hurts everytime I hit the wall. The doctor says, then stop hitting the wall.
Couldn't you just slide it over and don't use the tablet on top of the keyboard?
Have you considered the MacBook Pro might be emitting interference? Stray currents and voltages? It doesn't take much to throw these capacitative touchscreens off.
On this thread, most people have it much worse than you making the tablet very hard to use. We are trying to get these units back into a state that is at least usable.
Your case, while an interesting science project really isn't something someone would feel any sense of urgency to help address.
Excellent.
I'll try these now and put them through there paces.
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Great work
Incredible!! tried the ts10 and OMG everything is fixed!! Great work, sfhub!!
you should work in Google, seriously! shouldnt he, everybody?
My device is:
1) 4.3 JSS15Q
2) two finger touching registered as one finger, and muiti-touches ghosted. hold on the Left side of screen and the touch is registered repeatedly
1) TS10
Yea I booted 10 first and it is great. I can't reproduce any of the bugs I've seen before using YAMMT.
Google Maps Pinch/Zoom is working flawlessly. I couldn't even zoom in before.
The OP says to "fastboot boot boot-ts10-lock.img". Should we eventually "fastboot flash boot-ts10-lock.img" to make it permanent?
My N7 is:
HW rev_e
Bootloader....... FLO-03.14
15Q - CM 10.2 Kanged Build 9
Sitting the N7 on my Logitech Keyboard doesn't make it go crazy either! LOGITECH FTW
sfhub said:
It is the touchscreen controller software.
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How do you "lock" it in so that it won't get updated? Is it just a file in the filesystem, if so how do you prevent "fastboot erase" from getting rid of it? I've looked at ektf3k.c and know where I need to make a change so that it will replace any non-matching version, but I don't really know where the actual firmware is stored. It doesn't seem to be in the vendor part of the kernel tree or in the actual ektf3k.c or ektf3k.h files. Where is it kept? kept in fw_data.b
I'm new to Android, but I'm not new to Linux or reverse engineering so please be patient with me. Just looking for a technical description of how you did what you did. What exactly is in the .img files?
EDIT: I haven't booted any of them yet, but I'm guessing these are Linux kernel images with a modified version of the elan driver. Sorry for being stupid, I'm just trying to put this all together in my head and I can't cope with anything that seems like magic. Thanks for your time.
EDIT: Ok, I figured out where the firmware is stored. I also successfully built a ROM with my compiled kernel and flashed them to the tablet. No brick, it booted the second try and seems to work. Of course there's no apps on it hardly.
I'm kinda thinking out loud here, please correct anything that I get wrong:
I started off with the assumption that there was a closed source driver, but that seems to have been incorrect on my part. After looking at the code a little more, I see that ektf3k.c appears to be the lowest level driver, outside the embedded firmware. The driver does only update the firmware in the case that the flash is empty (FFFF.....) or the firmware presented is a higher version (just as you said of course). It appears that a simple change will make it flash any version presented that is different than the one currently flashed in. I plan to try this on my tablet and see if there are any unexpected repercussions from doing so.
I wish I had a datasheet for the controller (hint hint anyone).
DISCLAIMER: I know that you have already solved this problem in an arguably better way, I just want to tinker around a little. Thanks again. :good::good::good:
sfhub said:
By now folks realize there are different hardware variances for the touchscreen which is one reason why some people have issues and others do not.
Don't you hate it when you have a workable system, then an update comes along which fixes something, let's say GPS, but then your touchscreen goes down the tubes?
Never fear, I've put together packages to handle 3 different variances of the touchscreen.
I was able to make the touchscreen usable again on 3 of 4 test units. The 4th was always bad even out of the box so it might be hopeless for that one.
I do NOT claim this will fix everyones' touchscreen and that isn't even the goal as it might be an impossible task.
The goal is to make 70-80% of the problem units usable (again), but even if only 50% become usable this is an improvement over the current situation.
On to the packages:
In the attached boot-ts.7z file you'll find 4 files:
boot-ts10-lock.img
boot-ts20-lock.img
boot-ts30-lock.img
boot-ts-unlock.img
the ts10, ts20, and ts30 packages handle 3 variances on the touchscreen
You basically try each one to see which works best for your particular touchscreen.
Once you find one (and hopefully you do) then it is locked in place so future updates won't mess up your touchscreen again. No more OTA performance anxiety.
Now let's say there is an update in the future which has touchscreen fixes you want to use, that is where the 4th package comes into play. Once you use the ts-unlock image, you will once again be able to get touchscreen updates from the manufacturer. If that update doesn't work out, you can go back and use the ts10/20/30 package that was working for you.
Ok, so how does all this work?
I tried to make the process as simple as possible (has been tested on JWR66N, JSS15J, and JSS15Q):
Your bootloader must be UNLOCKED to use these packages. Unlocking your bootloader is covered in the stickies.
unpack the boot-ts.7z package using 7-zip
you'll be left with a boot-ts directory with the aforementioned files
connect your tablet by USB
make sure USB debugging is enabled
you can find adb/fastboot drivers HERE
in a command prompt in the boot-ts directory type (commands in italics)
adb reboot bootloader
wait for the bootloader screen to come up
alternatively use Power+VolDown to get to the bootloader/fastboot screen
fastboot boot boot-ts10-lock.img
this is how you try out package ts10
the screen will hang for 18-24 seconds, this is NORMAL, do not touch
this does NOT flash over your existing kernel
adb reboot
after booting to Android you MUST reboot at least once
IGNORE any instability up to this point, it is expected
once you are booted into Android the 2nd time, try out the touchscreen and see if it feels usable
if there is instability, give it one more reboot back into Android before judging
if things are not working acceptably
repeat step #3, with ts20, and ts30 if needed
hopefully between ts10, ts20, and ts30, you will have found a package that works for you
there is nothing else for you to do
you can reboot and use your normal ROMs, custom ROMs, stock kernels, custom kernels, etc.
your touchscreen package is locked in place and won't change unless you want it to
if you want to go back to the way it was before and/or you want a future touchscreen update from the manufacturer
repeat step #3 using boot-ts-unlock.img
Please post feedback with:
the version of software you are running
what was/is broken
whether any of the packages helped
Remember to click thanks if you find this useful.
That's it folks, hope this helps somebody.
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So if we do this can we lock the boot loader backup. If for some reason it doesn't work will I be able to take it back for exchange. After unlocking the boot loader. Do people leave the boot loader unlocked . Is the software staying the same meaning will I be ok downloading future updates.
Is there a way to find out what variance is installed right now on the device? I got JSS15Q and my tablet is useable but sometimes there are ghost touches or the touch is stuck or gets interrupted and the likes.
Hi there,
My phone not turning on not without battery and SD not with home and volume+ and power button not with both volumes and power nothing at all not even vibrating when charging I am not sure if it's the battery but it was charged before I rebooted once rebooted it didn't turn back on I am on aurora ics and cwm.
I didn't have any problems with it partitions might of been wiped but I guess this would leave me with access to bootloader or anything or a vibrate on charge at least it happened as I was formatting another device but put the wrong sd on ubuntu so I started to think it might be the battery except it was charged unless it decided to leak all the charge in no time.
Also it doesn't do anything on usb or charge connection no vibrate no led no light buttons no nothing just nothing.
Sounds like my issue...
If in fact you did format the whole 3.69gb partition, then you wiped the phone.
So far, my only recourse has been to attempt a JTAG and install a bootloader.
I'm thinking that maybe I can try some form of "wire trick", like the ones used on the HTC Sensation, but I don't want to blow it up by shorting something unrepairable.
If you find another solution, please reply as it would be helpful to others.
PoXFreak said:
Sounds like my issue...
If in fact you did format the whole 3.69gb partition, then you wiped the phone.
So far, my only recourse has been to attempt a JTAG and install a bootloader.
I'm thinking that maybe I can try some form of "wire trick", like the ones used on the HTC Sensation, but I don't want to blow it up by shorting something unrepairable.
If you find another solution, please reply as it would be helpful to others.
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nope i didnt format 3.96 gb it was 3 mb and it was shown as linux cd gadget also it worked afterwards until i rebooted next day then blackness the thing is i cant seem to find a battery to try with so i need to try everything first
The one I have here wouldn't start charging the battery until I force-fed the battery directly. (use a 4-5v charger and directly charge the battery for a couple of minutes).
Mine worked, but I made the mistake of formatting the entire partition (3.69gb), so now the phone does absolutely nothing.
PoXFreak said:
The one I have here wouldn't start charging the battery until I force-fed the battery directly. (use a 4-5v charger and directly charge the battery for a couple of minutes).
Mine worked, but I made the mistake of formatting the entire partition (3.69gb), so now the phone does absolutely nothing.
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I am a bit confused here so now when you plug it you can do something to it since it's charging? I guess I never did the 3.69 thingy if I am not mistaken..So lemme ask you if I tried the wall outlet for example instead of the USB to tv or laptop would that help to start it? I am thinking of replacing the battery and see what happens that's if I can find it here in Turkey the Turks always into the newest phones so this one is ancient to them to find a battery for...
Mine is in the same state. But I know that in my efforts to get it to start again I accidently wiped the the entire partition. Can't turn it on, can't get a pink screen, not a thing and haven't beenable to find any solution. So I guess all I can do is sit back and check the postings to see if anyone else has the same issue and knows of a way to restore the boot partition.
Burtrum57 said:
Mine is in the same state. But I know that in my efforts to get it to start again I accidently wiped the the entire partition. Can't turn it on, can't get a pink screen, not a thing and haven't beenable to find any solution. So I guess all I can do is sit back and check the postings to see if anyone else has the same issue and knows of a way to restore the boot partition.
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I'm thinking of trying to run MTTY 1.42 and talk directly with the qualcomm chip to send the boot files myself, but I need to know what I need and where it goes first.
I did this with the HTC Kaiser (AT&T Tilt) with some success.
That was on Windows XP though...not sure if it will run correctly on Win 7.
PoXFreak said:
I'm thinking of trying to run MTTY 1.42 and talk directly with the qualcomm chip to send the boot files myself, but I need to know what I need and where it goes first.
I did this with the HTC Kaiser (AT&T Tilt) with some success.
That was on Windows XP though...not sure if it will run correctly on Win 7.
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help me i have the same issue....
service
May be best option is to take it to service center.
I wanted to start a thread to solve some minor headaches regarding NuVision tablets. Specifically the TM800W560L, but may include others.
The manufacture is TMAX, and the brand is NuVision. Some of you have these. I picked up the 560 at the Microsoft store, a couple of days before Christmas, 2016. I ghosted the factory image as backup, and wiped clean to start from scratch, using Windows 10 Pro.
Let's say my hack started at the Microsoft Store, social engineering a sale of $25 for the unit. Yes you can get these for free, if you were buying a Windows Surface, but why would you want this if you have a Surface? It's such a terrible device to support for the sod who got one...
This unit is the most similar to the HP Stream 7, MSRP $79. I have a couple of these as well. I a bit miffed that, although the CPU is 64-bit, we can only use 32-bit Windows. This produces some problems as only 64-bit drivers are readily supported via Windows Update. I have made use of some of these drivers for the 560 to solve some problems.
Lets get down to the issues at hand:
1. The Camera drivers.
OV2680 ( OVTi2680 Ven_OVTi&Dev_2680 )
OV5648 ( INT5648 Ven_INT&Dev_5648 )
Problem: For every Windows Feature Upgrade, the drivers are wiped out and replaced with some non-functional version. Frankly, I don't think I have been able to get the cameras to work at all. At least, not by using the Windows 10 Camera App. I pulled a litany of drivers from various sources and I can get them to at least seem okay, as far as the device manager is concerned, but not much beyond that.
2. Intel Chip Set drivers.
Problem: Much like the camera drivers, for every Windows Feature Upgrade, the chipset drivers are updated as well, but then the supplied drivers are non-functional. This results in the lost of touch and gravity sensors, among other functions. This requires the use of a USB OTG adaptor, (Yes you can have USB and power at the same time!) and reinstallation of the original chipset drivers.
All in all I get the sense this is abandoned technology, and I feel that no-one particularly cares. In addition, I am a little bored with this thing, and I would like to see if I can make it better.
If anyone has questions or advice, I am open minded, but it should be sincere.
Thanks,
I picked the TM800W610L. I will see if the camera drivers and chipset drivers from this model will work for the 560. However NuVision has reduced their driver set to bare bones. In some respects this is admirable, but in my case, it leaves little hope that there's any 32bit support.
For the uninitiated, the 560, although has a 64bit CPU, the BIOS only boots 32bit Windows. This is the same situation on the same CPU, for the HP Stream 7, which I am also leveraging for support.
I have been able to dig around a little bit, regarding the BIOS firmware, for both models. Geekbench is a nice repository of data, for a shallow dive.
This is what I have, for known BIOS revisions:
I have the installer for version H, supporting the 610.
I can backup version R, installed on my 560.
If anyone is interested in an "update" from an older version, it would be interesting to get a backup of what you currently have in exchange for an update.
TMAX TM800W610L
JK-BI-8-HLK80CR100-C34A-101-F-LCD3 08/01/2016
JK-BI-8-HLK80CR100-C34A-101-H-LCD2 03/02/2017
TMAX TM800W560L
JK-8-BI-PX5S10TCR100-X534A-001-G
JK-8-BI-PX5S10TCR100-X534A-001-H
JK-8-BI-PX5S10TCR100-X534A-001-L
JK-8-BI-PX5S10TCR100-X534A-001-O
JK-8-BI-PX5S10TCR100-X534A-001-P
JK-8-BI-PX5S10TCR100-X534A-001-Q
JK-8-BI-PX5S10TCR100-X534A-001-R 08/25/2016
JK-8-BI-PX5S10TCR100-X534A-001-T
I just picked one of these up myself (the TM800W560L) and am working on getting it upgraded to Pro (and put on the Insider preview program, because I like my devices consistent) at the moment. I was a little sad to see that these machines have 32-bit UEFI effectively making the 64-bit enhancements useless and limiting software support to 32-bit only (that immediately threw out my plans for using WSL/Ubuntu on the thing since Windows Subsystem for Linux is a 64-bit only feature), but after a couple hours with this tablet, I'm really enjoying it. It took about 4 hours to install the latest batch of updates, but unlike your own experiences, all my drivers still worked after the upgrade from 1511 to 1709 (Build 16299).
I did see some very negative reviews for the product on Amazon, mostly about customer support, so I knew what I was getting into when I ordered it.
EDIT: My gripes about the device were apparently for a defective device. Got a new one after the note below caused a brick and have had a much better time with it.
Important! For my first real contribution to this thread, I wanted to give a warning, don't mess with the BIOS options if you can help it on these devices. I simply changed the "Boot to State when Power is resumed" from G0 to S5 and the tablet no longer powers on. It's charging, but nothing is happening from the buttons. So I guess it's to the exchange with this one.. Learned for the next one though :/ [Update: Turns out that it caused an actual brick, lesson learned, don't mess with the Power Management firmware settings! There's no good way back from a brick caused by UEFI firmware settings, you apparently have to reflash the BIOS using an SPI programmer to fix those. These manufacturers really should be designing their firmware better (and not using 64-bit firmware on a 64-bit processor, shame on them for that travesty!)]
Edit 2: I ran into an actual issue that I can reproduce pretty frequently. With the native Windows auto-rotation on, going from Landscape to Portrait (or vice-versa) leaves the touchscreen in this weird state where it's still looking for touch input from the previous orientation. Not sure if this is a Windows 10 version 1709 build 17043+ bug, but it appears to be, as the issue does not happen if I turn rotation lock on and manually change orientation. It's an interesting issue to say the least. [It appears after browsing the feedback hub that this is indeed a Windows 10 Insider bug, if you are affected by this, turn off auto-rotation and then manually rotate the screen using Settings, the touch input works as expected then.]
Hi, thanks for the great info! I'm trying to start a little robot makerspace and wanted to mount these little cheap tablets on mobile robots. The only issue appears to be not being able to use USB devices while supplying external power to the device. It sounded like you mentioned this is somehow possible, could you elaborate on that?
Thanks!
Jesse
ShadowEO said:
Edit 2: I ran into an actual issue that I can reproduce pretty frequently. With the native Windows auto-rotation on, going from Landscape to Portrait (or vice-versa) leaves the touchscreen in this weird state where it's still looking for touch input from the previous orientation. Not sure if this is a Windows 10 version 1709 build 17043+ bug, but it appears to be, as the issue does not happen if I turn rotation lock on and manually change orientation. It's an interesting issue to say the least. [It appears after browsing the feedback hub that this is indeed a Windows 10 Insider bug, if you are affected by this, turn off auto-rotation and then manually rotate the screen using Settings, the touch input works as expected then.]
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I can confirm the strange rotation behavior, on the 610L. I got out of it by hooking up an OTG cable, keyboard and mouse.
Boot up and log in, rotate to landscape and reboot, not messing with the touch screen. After the reboot, the touch screen worked in landscape, and seems to be in sync again.
I installed 17083, that was a chore, and all seems well. However I am getting app crashes, which I think is an OS issue. (currency ran sfc /scannow - no probs. And dism /online /cleanup-image /startcomponentcleanup /resetbase) Next is to run chkdsk and reboot... I have no real hope this will take care of things until the next fast build, which could be in a week or two at the moment.
To get the recent build installed, I had to run a custom script, to clean up all the known temp and softwaredistribution/downloads folder. Additionally I removed the upgrade assistant and one drive. Then ran the Windows Update trouble shooter, and ran (compact /compactos:alwasy) and set NTFS compression on the C drive, ignoring all errors. I was able to get 16GB free, and finally able to install the latest Fast Insider's Build.
Some of these things are not recommended, however extreme conditions require extreme measures... 32GB MMC Crive is a bit restricted.
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Hi, thanks for the great info! I'm trying to start a little robot makerspace and wanted to mount these little cheap tablets on mobile robots. The only issue appears to be not being able to use USB devices while supplying external power to the device. It sounded like you mentioned this is somehow possible, could you elaborate on that?
Thanks!
Jesse
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I am having mixed results here. I plainly am not getting good results with an OTG/HUB combo with three power settings. I am not getting power and USB/date to the micro USB port, as the same time. It's either/or.
610L - Nope, one or the other. I originally thought it was possible, but it's not.
560L - Nope, just confirmed, same result as the 610L - will charge in power+data mode, while completely off.
I have confirmed as well, 17063 build, on both the 610L and the 560L, has this strange screen rotation, mouse, touch screen orientation lock thing. That is, the screens rotate, but the touch alignment does not. The mouse pointer only moves in the same space as if it was prorate mode. Touch is fully prorate mode, while the screen rotates to landscape. Then got the BSOD (green screen)... Rebooting while in landscape mode, (requires a mouse), does fix the issue. Touch alignment comes back with screen rotation. (works on both models)
I see a future problem which I think we will have to address on our own. No help from TMax/NuVision I suspect.
When the microcode is finalized by Intel, we will have to come up with a solution to update the code, to protect against Meltdown and Spectre.
I have doen this before, prior to Compaq merger, on the HP VLi8 and VL400. But I don't know if it's possible to inject new microcode on the TMax firmware/bios update.
As you can see above, I have listed a number of firmware for our tablets, I am hoping we can work with some recent purchasers and see if there's an arrangement, where we could come to trade.
The USB OTG ACA support is weird. There are times it does work and times it does not. I have two USB OTG hubs that support supplying the tablet power while USB OTG is in use. With one hub, this works fine; with the other though, it will either not charge, or it will claim to be charging, but I assume not receiving enough power on the tablet side to charge the tablet enough while it's in use. It does however work, I have used it multiple times already with my 560L.
As for storage space, yes, I recommend running
Code:
compact /compactos:always
after each update. You can also get away with storing your user profile on the MicroSD card (and applications, thus rendering the internal storage an OS only drive)
As for my previous complaint about screen rotation, this disappeared after the upgrade to 17083. It was confirmed to be a problem with the Desktop Window Manager service by Microsoft and even had a fix posted to the Feedback Hub entry for the issue.
@CraveTech It may indeed be possible to modify our firmware, but the risk of doing so may outweigh the benefits. Windows already has user-mode mitigation of Spectre and Meltdown that isn't dependent on the microcode to be installed. We also have to worry about the possibility of bricking the devices without recovery (at least in my case, as I don't have access to an SPI programmer, nor do I feel comfortable cracking this thing open) seeing as a single option change in the BIOS effectively bricked the device.
anyone try to unrar the current image from nuvision for model w610L
test the archive and i get errors.
same with drivers.
tried newest unrar and also older version.
wtf??
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The USB OTG ACA support is weird. There are times it does work and times it does not. I have two USB OTG hubs that support supplying the tablet power while USB OTG is in use. With one hub, this works fine; with the other though, it will either not charge, or it will claim to be charging, but I assume not receiving enough power on the tablet side to charge the tablet enough while it's in use. It does however work, I have used it multiple times already with my 560L.
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What is the model of the one that works for you?
I just got a TM800W610L the other day and have been looking for one that works with this tablet.
Thanks
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What is the model of the one that works for you?
I just got a TM800W610L the other day and have been looking for one that works with this tablet.
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the exact hub I had the best experience on so far (I am still buying and trying hubs) was this one: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LTHBCNM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
It charged when it said it was charging and had no qualms with the other devices. There's a Cerrxian branded 4-port rectangular hub which doesn't seem to work well at all for my devices. Even when the Cerrxian says the system is charging and the system shows it, it still dies. I assume that it just isn't supplying enough power to the VBUS :/
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the exact hub I had the best experience on so far (I am still buying and trying hubs) was this one: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LTHBCNM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
It charged when it said it was charging and had no qualms with the other devices. There's a Cerrxian branded 4-port rectangular hub which doesn't seem to work well at all for my devices. Even when the Cerrxian says the system is charging and the system shows it, it still dies. I assume that it just isn't supplying enough power to the VBUS :/
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Interesting. I had seen that one on Amazon and quickly glossed over it since it had a switch for OTG/Charge, so I assumed it couldn't do both simultaneously. At $7 I'd say it's a cheap enough experiment though. Thanks for the info.
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Interesting. I had seen that one on Amazon and quickly glossed over it since it had a switch for OTG/Charge, so I assumed it couldn't do both simultaneously. At $7 I'd say it's a cheap enough experiment though. Thanks for the info.
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Ya I was surprised too, but it worked with my Nexus 7 and LG G2 with their ACA enabled kernels. I had to fidget with the switch a little before charging started, but I was able to confirm in Ubuntu Touch on the Nexus 7 that it still saw the USB devices via lsusb. I seem to have lost that exact hub within the past week or so, but I had used it last month to charge the tablet while reinstalling Windows from my flash drive with a keyboard and mouse attached. I can't testify that it actually charged the device since I hadn't been able to see percentages (being in Windows setup and all), but the charging indicator was on, the screen was as bright as Windows normally makes it when charging, and it didn't die while the device was at ~15% battery before starting the installation. The Cerrxian hub couldn't do that and the tablet died while attempting installation, So I assume it was charging the tablet, or at least provided enough power to keep the device's battery stable.
I also just bought another 3-port hub from Acasis, another Chinese company making these cheap devices, but so far, I have yet to get that hub to charge the device either. So it seems that this is a very specific type of configuration inside the adapter, but the device does support OTG+Charge.
That said, Windows itself (at least the desktop versions) does not actually support this feature according to Microsoft's USB driver documentation. That it works at all seems to be a bug in the USB driver, or perhaps the adapters are doing something strange to trick the device into pulling down it's own VBUS and using the external one, possibly independently from the OS (Firmware USB drivers maybe?).
Does anyone have screenshot of the BIOS main menu and the save and exit screen? I'm trying reset to the bios. I was messing MIPI and eDP. I thought eDP was meant for external display port.
lol I fixed it. I gamble on different version of this tablet. I press F3 and Left arrow key for yes and enter. Then I press F4 and Left arrow key for yes to save and restart.
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Does anyone have screenshot of the BIOS main menu and the save and exit screen? I'm trying reset to the bios. I was messing MIPI and eDP. I thought eDP was meant for external display port.
lol I fixed it. I gamble on different version of this tablet. I press F3 and Left arrow key for yes and enter. Then I press F4 and Left arrow key for yes to save and restart.
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Glad to see that you fixed it. I would recommend against modifying the firmware settings if you can avoid it, especially any power management settings as changing one of those can completely brick the tablet leaving you unable to even enter the firmware.
EDIT 2/27: I came across my other OTG hubs and have some bad news, it appears that the OTG+Charge works on the 560L, but doesn't on the 610L. Perhaps NuVision changed USB chipset revisions between models?
Just picked up the 610L last week for $66 as a small option to use a program I need mobile. Updated to 1709 after a struggle (why Microsoft, why?).
Ran great for a week and now it’s starting to freeze and BSOD with mainly “Clock Watchdog Timeout”.
Not really getting any indication of why, I know I can run a log dump, but I often can’t get it to stay on log enough. It will even hang and crash when trying to wipe/revert.
Anyone have any suggestions?
Been a long time since I was active around here
update:
Was able to locate the stock ISO files and made a bootable usb. It’s currently restoring back to OEM status.
The installer is another language, but it’s working.
I think I won’t be install updates until I finish this project I have to do.
Another update:
Getting an intel framework and thermal error in the logs, which I notice while the device gets hot while charging and operating. If I let things be without charging it stays cooler.
I’ve only had had one BSOD and it was for System Service Exception but the logs don’t show much.
I let things update overnight with it plugged in and the screen off and it was still operating this morning.
Not sure if this is a driver issue or not. Seems that way.
Been trying to restore this but get an hour into the nuvision software and it times out. Anyone have an idea how to get this back to stock?
How to set the phone to switch on when it is pluged to the charger?
I'm on cm 13 based rom, thanks for advance.
please any suggestions i searched alot but it didn't work ,in some devices there is a file located in system/bin named lpm but it doesn't exist in cm13 rom system files and i don't know what is its alternative in cm 13 by editing its lines you can do that,any idea ?
@MikeChannon any ideas ?
Don't know CM13 well enough I'm afraid.
Almost certain there'll be a system file edit to do it but without research I don't know.
Maybe another avenue to research would be this sort of thing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zp9G6A6EFlA
Not exactly what you're looking for although I suspect that would also turn the screen on if it was already on stand by.
Clues might also be gained from the numerous USB settings in com.android.
An easy way to identify them is by using something like:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.vndnguyen.shortcutmaster.lite&hl=en_GB
and use its 3 dot menu to search for USB. It shows at least 30 entries (most will be irrelevant of course)
Mike
MikeChannon said:
Don't know CM13 well enough I'm afraid.
Almost certain there'll be a system file edit to do it but without research I don't know.
Maybe another avenue to research would be this sort of thing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zp9G6A6EFlA
Not exactly what you're looking for although I suspect that would also turn the screen on if it was already on stand by.
Clues might also be gained from the numerous USB settings in com.android.
An easy way to identify them is by using something like:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.vndnguyen.shortcutmaster.lite&hl=en_GB
and use its 3 dot menu to search for USB. It shows at least 30 entries (most will be irrelevant of course)
Mike
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thanks so much for reply, i had already seen this video and i wanna do this for the same purpose i wanna use my phone as integrated music player and navigator for my car,but unfortunately i installed sdk tools and adb drivers but fast boot command (fastboot oem off-mode-charge 0) didnt work with my lenovo a6000 in other hands the file called (lpm or playlpm or chargemon) doesn't exist in cm13 to edit it and i don't know what its alternative here
so the only thing i'm seeking to is to turn the phone on when plugged into the charger so as to work with the car
no matter which rom ,if there is a rom having a certain file i can edit to do this it will be perfect
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thanks so much for reply, i had already seen this video and i wanna do this for the same purpose i wanna use my phone as integrated music player and navigator for my car,but unfortunately i installed sdk tools and adb drivers but fast boot command (fastboot oem off-mode-charge 0) didnt work with my lenovo a6000 in other hands the file called (lpm or playlpm or chargemon) doesn't exist in cm13 to edit it and i don't know what its alternative here
so the only thing i'm seeking to is to turn the phone on when plugged into the charger so as to work with the car
no matter which rom ,if there is a rom having a certain file i can edit to do this it will be perfect
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What about the Wakey App?
It can be set to wake the device on charge and can also be set to stop the device sleeping and turning the screen off. I use it with Netflix casting otherwise the casting can get shut off when sleep starts.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.doublep.wakey&hl=en
Also, if you could look into what the app does (its code) you could potentially find your own tailored solution.
Mike
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What about the Wakey App?
It can be set to wake the device on charge and can also be set to stop the device sleeping and turning the screen off. I use it with Netflix casting otherwise the casting can get shut off when sleep starts.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.doublep.wakey&hl=en
Also, if you could look into what the app does (its code) you could potentially find your own tailored solution.
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if i can got you the point ,i need my phone not to wake from a sleep ,i need it to be switched on when it is turned off when the charger is connected,can i do this with this app ?
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if i can got you the point ,i need my phone not to wake from a sleep ,i need it to be switched on when it is turned off when the charger is connected,can i do this with this app ?
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Haha well it depends what you mean by "switched on when it is turned off".
If you mean the screen is off and you want it to come on when plugged in then it can do that, it has the option "Charge Wake"
... but if you mean it is completely off then no it can't do that.
Mike
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Haha well it depends what you mean by "switched on when it is turned off".
If you mean the screen is off and you want it to come on when plugged in then it can do that, it has the option "Charge Wake"
... but if you mean it is completely off then no it can't do that.
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Exactly thats what i mean to wake the phone when its totally switched off by plugging it to the charger :laugh:
So we will return back to the first option sdk tools or editing system file to replace battery charge animation (when phone is off) by turning the phone on, you told me that through cm 13 rom we have no idea which system file would help,so if i changed the rom with another one may it help?
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Exactly thats what i mean to wake the phone when its totally switched off by plugging it to the charger :laugh:
So we will return back to the first option sdk tools or editing system file to replace battery charge animation (when phone is off) by turning the phone on, you told me that through cm 13 rom we have no idea which system file would help,so if i changed the rom with another one may it help?
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No and googling around suggests the cyanogen file name is not known. Maybe it's still the same in Lineage OS... might be worth asking there.
Don't suppose you have the kpoc file mentioned here:https://stackoverflow.com/questions/26294258/auto-boot-when-wall-charger-is-plugged
If all else fails and this is a permanent in car fixture, I guess you could look at a hard wired dash switch or relay start button replacement.
Mike
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No and googling around suggests the cyanogen file name is not known. Maybe it's still the same in Lineage OS... might be worth asking there.
Don't suppose you have the kpoc file mentioned here:https://stackoverflow.com/questions/26294258/auto-boot-when-wall-charger-is-plugged
If all else fails and this is a permanent in car fixture, I guess you could look at a hard wired dash switch or relay start button replacement.
Mike
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Yes it will be a permanent car fixture but i see that doing it by editing system files is much easier than the other ways (wired switch or relay start button replacement) so ill try again but with different rom and searching for the mentioned system files and i hope to work with me, thanks alot for your time and support mike :good:
I bought this 6t refurbished and I suspect is a t-mobile converted to global. I've tried resetting the phone and deleting all kinds of apps cache/data to no avail. in addition I tried to get the
Google Services Framework Android ID but my phone is not rooted. i would like to keep the phone as stock as possible.
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I bought this 6t refurbished and I suspect is a t-mobile converted to global. I've tried resetting the phone and deleting all kinds of apps cache/data to no avail. in addition I tried to get the
Google Services Framework Android ID but my phone is not rooted. i would like to keep the phone as stock as possible.
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Did you convert your tmobile to international ? I guess you did. So either root it and install magisk or livr without Google pay.
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I bought this 6t refurbished and I suspect is a t-mobile converted to global. I've tried resetting the phone and deleting all kinds of apps cache/data to no avail. in addition I tried to get the
Google Services Framework Android ID but my phone is not rooted. i would like to keep the phone as stock as possible.
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When you go to About phone the build number will tell you if it is T-Mobile converted phone. If the build number starts with ONEPLUS A6013_34_ then it is converted, if it starts with ONEPLUS A6013_41_ or ONEPLUS A6010_41_ then it is a global version.
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When you go to About phone the build number will tell you if it is T-Mobile converted phone. If the build number starts with ONEPLUS A6013_34_ then it is converted, if it starts with ONEPLUS A6013_41_ or ONEPLUS A6010_41_ then it is a global version.
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yes the build number is ONEPLUS A6013_34_2000222 what should I do ?
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yes the build number is ONEPLUS A6013_34_2000222 what should I do ?
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Well you can't do really anything but if you have not had it too long you could return it.
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yes the build number is ONEPLUS A6013_34_2000222 what should I do ?
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You have 3 options:
1. DO nothing and hope OnePlus will fix it down the road. I actually lost hope with this one.
2. Load T-Mobile version, and loose dual sim capability. Google Play will pass certification and Google Pay will work.
3. Use Magisk, at your own risk, to trick SafetyNet check.
I have one of those scammy "no warranty" T-mo -> Intl. OnePlus 6T and, with enough work, it is possible to convert to the most recent Intl. android 10, and get root and Google pay working. I don't think at this time it's possible to watch Netflix in HD while having your cake and eating it too, sadly. The A/B situation on this phone is painfully confusing and leads to brick after brick as you learn the ropes of this phone. Not sure that's TMo's fault. Thankfully the bricks are fixable. You need the modded flasher for 9.0.11. From usb serial mode, the flasher gives some gibberish "Sahara" error. There is whole infuriating thread consisting of nothing but post after post of newbs being shamed for asking how to fix this problem (because it's already been asked a million times) but no clear concise solution ever provided (just a bunch of conflicting half-answers i.e., "I finally figured it out after mashing buttons for a long time..." -- What worked for me was holding down all the physical buttons, vol+, vol- and power, with the red "Saharah, please fix..." (something like that) red error message blinking away at me on the computer screen, and the phone plugged in to computer USB, the whole time. Only when its air composition sampling system detects your fingers bleeding profusely, will it kick in and fix your bricked device
So that gets you to an equivalent to a locked Global 9.0.11 rom with no OTA updates. From there you can do developer mode -> unlock bootloader instantly from fastboot -> (loose all your data) -> TWRP; now the a/b stuff gets really confusing AF but if you do TWRP from fastboot->flash 10.3.2 -> TWRP from fastboot again (it's like ms windows!) -> flash TWRP .zip installer -> TWRP from fastboot yet again -> Magisk, you can finally boot system.
To pass CTS profile you'll need to use the command-line signature changer Magisk module and Magisk Hide. Once the play store says it's "Certified" (certifiable more like...) and Magisk is giving you two green checkboxes, you are ready for more suffering. Now you need to freeze the Google Pay/Play apps and Google Play services and blow away all their data. At least that's what I did. Then make sure Magisk hide has all the Google play/GMS/AR/pay stuff hidden in Magisk, one more reboot for good measure, and you're off to the races. This gets Google Pay working and even lets you watch DRM at Widevine L3 level... it's still not all your cake and all your eating I suppose... hopefully you're not a big Netflix guy. Otherwise you kinda bought the wrong phone.
GL! Oh btw I have not found any way to restore an encrypted TWRP backup on this device. Starting to suspect it's literally impossible at this time -- but, if I'm honest, probably I just haven't gone through enough suffering, yet, to figure it out.
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There is whole infuriating thread consisting of nothing but post after post of newbs being shamed for asking how to fix this problem (because it's already been asked a million times) but no clear concise solution ever provided (just a bunch of conflicting half-answers i.e., "I finally figured it out after mashing buttons for a long time..." -- What worked for me was holding down all the physical buttons, vol+, vol- and power, with the red "Saharah, please fix..." (something like that) red error message blinking away at me on the computer screen, and the phone plugged in to computer USB, the whole time. Only when its air composition sampling system detects your fingers bleeding profusely, will it kick in and fix your bricked device
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Nope. Just completely dis-confirmed the above recipe. I am clearly still well in the cargo-cult phase of my OP qdl client tools education
All I can say for sure is randomly frobbing with the buttons and the phone-side usb-c cable for long periods of time will usually eventually start the process. And one sure-that-I'm-not-sure---but-still-fairly-confident correction: It probably helps to /un-/plug the phone from the PC, once it starts giving the meaningless red "Sahara quintessence frobnitz poop" error message (or whatever equally meaningful thing it actually says). If you find yourself in TWRP, you can use the "Reboot edl" button. Likewise, I believe the stock recovery has an interface to jump to qdl mode... could be making that up though Anyhow I think from there you want to turn the phone entirely off, which I believe can only at this point be achieved through continuous, uninterrupted mashing of the power button. So just after your get the error and disconnect, is your opportunity to impress the phone by bleeding all over it.
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You need the modded flasher for 9.0.11. From usb serial mode, the flasher gives some gibberish "Sahara" error. There is whole infuriating thread consisting of nothing but post after post of newbs being shamed for asking how to fix this problem (because it's already been asked a million times) but no clear concise solution ever provided (just a bunch of conflicting half-answers i.e., "I finally figured it out after mashing buttons for a long time..."
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OK, I think I figured out an actual recipe now, or the beginnings of one. It is still a bit fuzzy in places. It goes like this:
If you're not in qdl mode, or you are there but it won't talk to the proprietary flasher software, get the phone completely turned off. Often this is the hardest part. I have sometimes managed to brick my phone where it will Boot and insta-freeze at the infuriating-yellow-triangle screen¹. Then it will just sit there, indefinitely, and never bring up any sort of USB or wifi connectivity (nor does it show any sign of boot-looping, judging by dmesg output on my computer. It's just cold, and dead. Probably a bootloader bug/secure boot fail). In every semi-brick-like circumstance like this, I've found the following enables me to get the phone to turn itself off reasonably quickly, in fact, in just a couple of seconds, usually: unplug any USB-C cable (so I'm running on batteries), hold down all the buttons* until fingers bleeding or something happens -- if nothing happens, release all the buttons briefly and try again; once off, release all the buttons immediately.
Now get the phone back on, and in qdl mode. Somehow. Usually, if the phone is unplugged and off, I can get it there by holding all the buttons and plugging it into usb. If I'm soft-bricked, I'm already there, so nothing to do. From TWRP I can easily "reboot edl" to get there. Maybe there's ways to do it from fastboot, stock recovery, and system as well, via adb/fastboot commands.... My preferred way is holding "all the buttons" for about 1 second, and plugging in the usb cable, which will cause it to enter qdl mode "just one time" without actually bricking anything.
Now, finally, we run the proprietary flasher tool. Press start and it will go until it gets to the "sahara bingo yip-a-dee-ha" error (or whatever it really says... definitely not exactly what I wrote ).
Now turn the phone off again. Same recipe, but this time it seems to almost-always suffice to keep the phone connected to USB, while holding all-the-buttons. If that isn't working, then I go ahead and unplug, power cycle, and get into qdl mode like above. During this, the computer software is maybe completely disconnected from your phone, *****ing and moaning the whole time about Sahara or whatever. Ignore that, it's fine.
If the phone was fully powered off (rather than power-cycled in place), be sure to next release all the buttons, so that the phone has no usb or button-press input of any kind for at least a fraction of a second. Then press "all the buttons" again (nb: I suspect just vol+ and vol- suffice here, and the power button is superfluous? Maybe even detrimental depending on ordering? If I screw this up (sometimes it winds up booting into recovery or bootloader), then I find a way to ask it to reboot from there into qdl mode, if I can, or else power off from there and try again to use the three buttons.
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It is possible to hold all the buttons for too long. In which case, you may find yourself booting system. From there you may need to start this guide over from the beginning, sorry. The correct period of time to hold all the buttons down is about a second. Two seconds is probably too long.
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Using your fourth hand, Plug in a USB-C cable, what leads from your computer, to the phone, while continuing to hold down all the buttons with your other three hands (or, if you entered qdl via software, just plug it in, now).
That's it, done. Kick back and enjoy as the tool's progress bars go wild and unbrick your phone tut suite. The qdl process should be able to go all the way to the end where it says "100%" (although when you close the program it will still treat this like you are interrupting it in the middle; I think that's because it does multiple phones at once, and you only ever fed it the one phone, so it is alerting you that, hey, phone #2 never got processed).
I am doing the above in a non-FOSS emulator under desktop linux, using the patched client referenced from xda threads.
I imagine qemu would work, as well. Obviously native Windows is going to be your best bet. I def. wouldn't trust Oracle (VirtualBox) USB emulation with my qdl flashing needs, if I were me -- which I am. Phones tend to look like huge USB hubs, full of an ever-changing kaleidoscope of peripherals. Which I don't think the VirtualBox USB stack is really ready to cope with right now. (Not even with the proprietary USB add-on pack or whatever that is -- I simply don't trust Oracle not to hard-brick my phone; VirtualBox has seemingly perma-bricked one device for me, already. That was some time ago but I'm not going to feed it any more devices and I doubt the USB was fixed in vbox. It think it's paravirtualized, or something, so as to be super-fast, but unreliable when the bus topology changes in meatspace.
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¹ You know, that warning screen for "security." Which, currently, happens to be punishing me for trying to put the newest stock security updates onto my phone that I just purchased a month ago¹*².
* Not an "All the things" meme -- by "all the buttons" I literally mean all the hardware buttons: [vol+], [vol-], and [power].
¹*² I imagine the person who made the decision to require this in Android would explain it something like this:
straw man said:
(California accent) "Um, like, why? Are you a criminal or something? You know, you could just buy a new phone for like $899 US. Oh, you're, like, poor, or something? Well, OK, I guess there's no way for us to stop you from doing that. But we, like, won't be able to support you in any way. Also, sorry, but we're just going to need to put a brief warning screen on your phone, as a safety measure? No, it's not really a warning for you. More, like, in case other people might be around you for some reason? It just says, 'Hey, no judgement, but it seems like maybe a poor person owns this phone? And they're definitely doing some really weird stuff with it. So just be careful. Like maybe tell a friend where you're going, if you're going to spend time with them.' What? No, I'm sorry, there's no way to remove it. We paid millions to have it fused into the microchips or something? If you could just remove the warning, that would defeat the purpose. So, I'm sure you'd want the people around you to be safe, right? And, like, so do we! So we, like, locked that down pretty tight, yehh-...!'
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