Is there a way to use a USB drive without rooting - Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I don't won't to root my tab is there a way to use my flash drive with out rooting. I want to watch movies from it.
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No, you need a root to use stickmount to enable access.

There's got to be a way I don't want to root my tab.
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darchur said:
There's got to be a way I don't want to root my tab.
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If you say so. Tell us when you find it. I heard it's over --------> that way!

darchur said:
There's got to be a way I don't want to root my tab.
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Doesn't Android have native support for flash drives or something? Like I could of sworn people had flash drives working on another device, and didn't mention use of Stickmount at all

I have not heard of an option that does not require root as the mounting of USB drives (or any drive for that matter) is something that requires root access on Linux. As such, to mount one on Android you need root as Linux is the underlying OS of Android. There is no way around it for security reasons. Even if a Linux distribution for PC has auto-mounting of removable media it still requires and goes through root, even if it doesn't tell you.
In theory you could setup an auto-mounter on Android but it would still require root. I suppose you could rewrite parts of the OS to not require root for mounting a drive as an alternative but the code changes would most likely be extensive and would require you to unlock the device to write the new code in. Good luck not breaking anything else in the process and the result would most likely be glitchy. A long road of debugging various issues would be ahead of you.
After unlocking the device to write your code patches rooting it is so close and such an easy option in comparison that you might as well go with that.
Edit: Those devices still go through root in a way, they have a mounter built into the OS so it has the root access it need (by virtue of being located in the area that root gives access to). Getting a similar feature would require an unlocked boot loader and some patches pushed onto the rom from adb or recovery if I am not mistaken, and it could still require root.
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I don't need root to mount flash drives to my Galaxy Note, even on the original stock GB ROM. Worked directly out of the box.

johnus said:
I don't need root to mount flash drives to my Galaxy Note, even on the original stock GB ROM. Worked directly out of the box.
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Too bad he isnt asking about a galaxy note.

What exactly makes you so apprehensive to root? This is a Nexus device, after all. Unlocking/rooting, and even locking the device/returning to factory are completely trivial tasks. There are utilities available that do everything for you.

Yeah I am also curious why not root? It's so easy and comes in so handy!

darchur said:
There's got to be a way I don't want to root my tab.
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What exactly is the big deal about obtaining root? Its just like having admin access to a windows box. It lets you do more things with the OS, but only if you want to.
You want to use a tools to enable you to access the USB drive using an OTG cable (you know that right?).... and that tools needs admin (root) access to do it.
Simple, unlock, root and use it. If you don't want to use other admin (root) features from that point on, don't.
Rooting has NO effect on your Hardware Warrantly...

You can use a device like Airstash to use SD cards as external storage (play movies, music, store/read files, etc...). Doesn't require root.

digriz said:
Too bad he isnt asking about a galaxy note.
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Shouldn't matter... Apparently Android can support USB drives without need of an app, but why can't the Nexus 7 support flash drives, when other devices apparently can?

Android CAN'T support USB on its own. The gNote has an app built-in that does what stickmount would do for you. Because he app came in the OS by default it is allowed root access without rooting the device so it can mount stuff.
To get the same setup on our N7 you would need to flash a custom ROM with it built in which would require unlocking the boot loader and the ROM would most likely have root anyways.
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Will it void my warranty and what's the easy way to do it and undo it.
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Please read through all of these threads that I'm going to post BEFORE doing anything so as to make sure you understand the process.
To root and understand the process: Link 1
To return to stock and relock: Link 2
One click toolkit. Use this to actually root/unlock/relock. MAKE SURE YOU READ EVERYTHING FIRST: Link 3.
Here's a step-by-step video explaining everything for you.
It might void your warranty temporarily - but you can return the thing to stock as long as you don't drop it into a bathtub, so it won't be an issue "re-warrantying" it.
Just make sure you know how to do everything manually in case something goes wrong. And don't be afraid to read a bunch before you do anything. Knowledge is key!

You could always get this device http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&ke...hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=b&ref=pd_sl_m4ey2rr04_b
It lets you use Wi-Fi to access it's storage. Even has a pass through mode so you can stay on Wi-Fi while accessing them.

I called Google and it voids the warranty so I'm not going root it. Its not for me but thanks to everyone for enlightening me. If there is an app to mount a USB drive without rooting I will be the first to get it.
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Is there an app that let's me network with my computer and stream things like music and movies using WiFi.
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darchur said:
Is there an app that let's me network with my computer and stream things like music and movies using WiFi.
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Search LAN Streaming on the market if you like, but I personally use the LAN sharing capabilities in ES File explorer. That app is amazing IMO
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Possible to restore right to root and will ginger break ever be ported to kf?

Why not its based on ginger bread right? If not then maybe some one could make "KindleBreak". No computers invoved.This is not a question but a theory! If you were to use like for example titanium back up to restore to a rooted version of the stock os. In theory that is correct yes but is it possible is real life? Please post your thoughts below and moderators please don't delete this post I would really like to hear the developers thoughts on the subject.
noahawesome said:
Why not its based on ginger bread right? If not then maybe some one could make "KindleBreak". No computers invoved.This is not a question but a theory! If you were to use like for example titanium back up to restore to a rooted version of the stock os. In theory that is correct yes but is it possible is real life? Please post your thoughts below and moderators please don't delete this post I would really like to hear the developers thoughts on the subject.
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It's not that gingerbreak isn't "ported" to the kindle it's a matter of the exploit used in gingerbreak actually not working on the kindle OS/kernel.
In theory a computerless root could be possible; IF the kindle allowed for communication to dev/tmp/ ? I think it is (brain fart) but to my knowledge it blocks that from the system and can only be performed via adb outside of a shell. This causes us to not be able to copy the bin files used to root the kindle to the appropriate place without a computer (at least to my understanding, Jcase I beleive has tried and failed)
Titanium backup won't work without already having root access; nough said on that one.
But what if you made a usb dongle that put it into factory state such as a factory cable but this dongle would be like a self excuteing flash drive that has the files to root on it and in order to create this device all a person would need to do is put the files on a flash drive and use an adapter to plug it into the kindle. Possible?
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But what if you made a usb dongle that put it into factory state such as a factory cable but this dongle would be like a self excuteing flash drive that has the files to root on it and in order to create this device all a person would need to do is put the files on a flash drive and use an adapter to plug it into the kindle. Possible?
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Your missing the point I believe. The dongle would pretty much have to be something sort of like a stripped down Raspberry PI. The dongle would need a cpu, ram, storage, 2 USB ports, a battery might be a good idea as to not rely on the phone battery for power, and possibly other peripherals that I am forgetting. The dongle needs to be able to boot in to linux. The linux version would probably be best suited if it were stripped down to specifically meet the commands it will run. It would need a KF driver built in, and then it would need a generic USB driver which may not allow it to work for all USB flash drives. Even then the "dongle" would need to be programed in a way to allow users to browse it like a flash drive and execute the sh files from there phone. There is probably even more aspects I have neglected to consider. Then again, I could be way off but I don;t believe I am.
Well there was a dongle made for the ps3 that if needed the files could work from a normal flash drive and I don't think this device I'm preposeing would work the same way.
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why pay for a rooting dongle, when we can use our PC? its just unnecessary
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Gingerbreak was probably more malicious than you think
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Just to add to this, the Kindle Fire stock ROM is based off of Android 2.3.4 (Gingerbread) and GingerBreak can only exploit 2.3.3 and below. So a working exploit for the Kindle Fire would require a whole new code
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Flash won't rewrite

The flash storage on my nexus 7 seems to not be rewriting like it should, when i pull it up in Windows i can see and delete things from the MTP interface. But when i use a file manager (OI File Manager) i can see the files once more and get an error when i attempt to delete them. i have done the Backup & Reset option within android after attempting a full data reset in ClockworkMod Recovery. At this point i am scratching my head. i am downloading another rom and will flash and post what i get from that.
Anyone else have this strange issue?
I've noticed this as well, anything I delete with ES File Explorer still shows up when it's plugged into my macbook but isn't actually accessible, I'm still on the stock ROM.
jabsys said:
I've noticed this as well, anything I delete with ES File Explorer still shows up when it's plugged into my macbook but isn't actually accessible, I'm still on the stock ROM.
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Have you hoooked up any form of external storage through an adpater? thats the only thing i have done "out of the ordinary" and a complete rom change doesnt fix it
AlanWarrick said:
Have you hoooked up any form of external storage through an adpater? thats the only thing i have done "out of the ordinary" and a complete rom change doesnt fix it
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Nope, not even rooted, not really a big issue since I mostly use airdroid to transfer files but it would be nice to fix it.
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jabsys said:
Nope, not even rooted, not really a big issue since I mostly use airdroid to transfer files but it would be nice to fix it.
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The next thing i am going to do is return to stock, a complete re-flash to see if it empties the storage, I am posting all my theories so that anyone with the same issue could easily follow.
Success!
Using Wugfish Nexus Toolkit, my problem appears to have been solved. whether it is a perminant fix or not has yet to be known.

[Q] Remove root check in app or something silimar

Hi,
I have an app that I need for work purposes, which detects whether the phone is rooted or not. If the phone is rooted it simply exists with a statement that it cant be used on a rooted phone. Is there a way to run this app in a container or the like, so that it is doesn't detect the rooted phone?
Any help is appreciated.
I think you're looking for ota root keeper or something similar. I beleive this app spoofs apps to believe you're unrooted. just do a quick google search to see if it meets your needs.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.otarootkeeper&hl=en
Thanks for the suggestion, but unfortunately this app doesn't work. Apps that check for the presence of su binary still detect root.
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You can disable root access if you use superSU, don't know about superuser.
I find that most apps that 'detect' root just look if su exists in a specific place. Just put it somewhere nonstandard.
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can someone tell me how to remove root check. An app Stofa WebTV (denmark only) have root checker and it will not let me watch a TV.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...t#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5zdG9mYS53ZWJ0diJd

Has the new update made it so we can write and read a USB stick.

It says USB stick mounted.
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something is definitely different. even after re-editing my vold.fstab file the root hack to do that still doesn't work.
Have not tested yet
LegionTHEFecalExcretion said:
something is definitely different. even after re-editing my vold.fstab file the root hack to do that still doesn't work.
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I stopped auto update as I already had something like this working I am thinking they may enable it for us soon
Help needed with the playstore it's a general android issue not with installing it on ouya had no problems with that

Help with moving movies from internal storage

After recent system updates my device is sluggish and unbearable to use. I wanted to do factory reset however I have all my movie on the internal storage. I tried moving it to my portable hard drive but ES would not let . is there a way for me to move the movie to my hard drive without root?
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Not sure if it'll work, but try connecting shield to your PC.
toanau said:
After recent system updates my device is sluggish and unbearable to use. I wanted to do factory reset however I have all my movie on the internal storage. I tried moving it to my portable hard drive but ES would not let . is there a way for me to move the movie to my hard drive without root?
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I had to root to enable it. Although I read somewhere that you can do it on the 1.4 firmware without root.
Set up an FTP server on your computer temporairly then connect withh ES file explorer to that and move them that way. I very much recommend rooting, and using trimmer (root application in the play store) as that makes the device as fast as day 1.
baileyjr said:
I had to root to enable it. Although I read somewhere that you can do it on the 1.4 firmware without root.
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I already tried it with the new update. Couldn't move it. Thanks
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kdb424 said:
Set up an FTP server on your computer temporairly then connect withh ES file explorer to that and move them that way. I very much recommend rooting, and using trimmer (root application in the play store) as that makes the device as fast as day 1.
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When u root the device. doesn't it wipe the device first?
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toanau said:
When u root the device. doesn't it wipe the device first?
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I didn't check as I rooted mine before I ever booted it, but for most devices yes. That being said, rooting isn't what causes it to lose data, it's the fact that you have to unlock the device (fastboot oem unlock), which wipes it for user security on most devices. I would highly suggest backing it up via some method, I like FPT server, or you can probably mount it with the OTG cable. Once rooted, yes, you woid your warenty (for software, if it bricks, most campanies cover it), but then you have the control to fix things yourself. For example, the 1.4 update bricked many devices, so you can manually block updates with root, along with trimming drives to gain speed. Android 4.2 and higher is supposed to trim itself, but it doesn't do it very often if it does, causing slowdown.
Ignore the parts about Mac, but this explains why SSD's slow down, and why trim is important.
http://www.howtogeek.com/222077/how-to-enable-trim-for-third-party-ssds-on-mac-os-x/
We are a little off topic here, so back to the original topic. Try an OTG cable, or moving things via FTP is my suggestion on getting it backed up. BTW, root can be removed if you decide it's not for you.
toanau said:
When u root the device. doesn't it wipe the device first?
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kdb424 said:
I didn't check as I rooted mine before I ever booted it, but for most devices yes. That being said, rooting isn't what causes it to lose data, it's the fact that you have to unlock the device (fastboot oem unlock), which wipes it for user security on most devices. I would highly suggest backing it up via some method, I like FPT server, or you can probably mount it with the OTG cable. Once rooted, yes, you woid your warenty (for software, if it bricks, most campanies cover it), but then you have the control to fix things yourself. For example, the 1.4 update bricked many devices, so you can manually block updates with root, along with trimming drives to gain speed. Android 4.2 and higher is supposed to trim itself, but it doesn't do it very often if it does, causing slowdown.
Ignore the parts about Mac, but this explains why SSD's slow down, and why trim is important.
http://www.howtogeek.com/222077/how-to-enable-trim-for-third-party-ssds-on-mac-os-x/
We are a little off topic here, so back to the original topic. Try an OTG cable, or moving things via FTP is my suggestion on getting it backed up. BTW, root can be removed if you decide it's not for you.
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Yes when you unlock the bootloader it wipes the device, and you need to unlock the bootloader before you can root. Well worth it though does't take that long to set back up in my experience. I'm not sure if Carbon works on the Sheild if so you could back up apps and app data using that.

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