[Q] unlocking a "virgin" N7 - Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I received the Nexus 7 this afternoon. I only performed the basic setting (wi-fi, Google account, sync.) and accepted the update to 4.1.1. I did not put anything on the SDCard.
I would like to unlock now (root will be in the near future).
My question (of which I could not find the answer on our Forum) is what will be really left after unlocking the bootloader (I am aware that unlocking erase data)?
As far as the end result is concerned is it equivalent to a factory reset for the actual state of the N7?
PS: using a Tool kit is not an option for me

gunner1937 said:
I received the Nexus 7 this afternoon. I only performed the basic setting (wi-fi, Google account, sync.) and accepted the update to 4.1.1. I did not put anything on the SDCard.
I would like to unlock now (root will be in the near future).
My question (of which I could not find the answer on our Forum) is what will be really left after unlocking the bootloader (I am aware that unlocking erase data)?
As far as the end result is concerned is it equivalent to a factory reset for the actual state of the N7?
PS: using a Tool kit is not an option for me
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Yes, unlocking the bootloader ('fastboot oem unlock') will reset your device to the way it was when you first turned it on other than the unlocked bootloader.

thracemerin said:
Yes, unlocking the bootloader ('fastboot oem unlock') will reset your device to the way it was when you first turned it on other than the unlocked bootloader.
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Even before the 4.1.1 OTA?

espionage724 said:
Even before the 4.1.1 OTA?
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I believe so, yes. I didn't have anything on mine when I did it prior to the OTA so I can't say 100% for sure.

espionage724 said:
Even before the 4.1.1 OTA?
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You'll still have 4.1.1. All of the user data will be erased.
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El Daddy said:
You'll still have 4.1.1. All of the user data will be erased.
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Ah ok, I figured as much but the way it sounded was that it actually got rid of the 4.1.1 OTA update as well.

espionage724 said:
Ah ok, I figured as much but the way it sounded was that it actually got rid of the 4.1.1 OTA update as well.
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Oh, that's not what I meant. It will still be 4.1.1, just all user data will be gone.

Related

Has anyone found news about 2.3 for us???

I wake up everyday looking for news about 2.3 getting released. I am on 2.2.1 so I lost the ability to root. So i hope this comes out soon and if anyone has any info please post.
Officially it should come out in "coming weeks" as this tweet suggests - http://twitter.com/googlenexus/status/16974464310845440.
But there's a way to root your 2.2.1 anyways. Follow this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8315805&postcount=2
KROMO50 said:
I wake up everyday looking for news about 2.3 getting released. I am on 2.2.1 so I lost the ability to root. So i hope this comes out soon and if anyone has any info please post.
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SuperOneClick works great if you still want root.
KROMO50 said:
I wake up everyday looking for news about 2.3 getting released. I am on 2.2.1 so I lost the ability to root. So i hope this comes out soon and if anyone has any info please post.
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Just unlock your bootloader.
I have tried the super one click no luck
Other than unlocking, which is the preferred and safest way to do it. You could just follow the guide that was linked here. I did it for my friend just last week because he was afraid of the official way to root for some reason. It worked perfectly.
Yeah I did it the rageagainstthecage way.
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nope but i read about 2.4 just google for:
google-ice-cream-android-2-4
cant post links
My sig says it all...
KROMO50 said:
I have tried the super one click no luck
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Odd, are you sure you have the latest Super One Click? It worked fine for me 2.2.1 N1 on T-Mobile.
KROMO50 said:
I have tried the super one click no luck
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Works fine for me. Did you get stuck at the looping problem after following the steps in the OP?
The way around that, as many of us have discovered, is to turn the phone off then run SuperOneClick and select 'root'. Turn the phone back on once 'waiting for device..' is shown in the program and then just leave it until it finishes.
Ensure USB debugging is enabled before you get started and that your PC has the required drivers installed. (Check Device Manager).
To be fair the Original Post needs updating as the instructions aren't very good without the above being mentioned.
DirkGently1 said:
SuperOneClick works great if you still want root.
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Dumb question but, does that method allow you to install custom roms (e.g. CM7) without unlocking the bootloader, thus keeping the warranty?
frandavid100 said:
Dumb question but, does that method allow you to install custom roms (e.g. CM7) without unlocking the bootloader, thus keeping the warranty?
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Using exploit to root allows you to get rooted device without unlocking the bootloader. However, I cannot tell you 'your warranty is kept' for certain(as long as bootloader is locked and you can revert to stock, I think it's okay).
frandavid100 said:
Dumb question but, does that method allow you to install custom roms (e.g. CM7) without unlocking the bootloader, thus keeping the warranty?
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This does not unlock the boot loader....... and, yes you can flash roms once rooted.
Good luck on that warrenty buisness.
LFact said:
However, I cannot tell you 'your warranty is kept' for certain(as long as bootloader is locked and you can revert to stock, I think it's okay).
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If you do revert to stock there should be no way to tell you ever modified the rom, isn't that right?
frandavid100 said:
If you do revert to stock there should be no way to tell you ever modified the rom, isn't that right?
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Unfortunately you can only relock the bootloader on Nexus S, according to a Google Android developer
rcknr said:
Officially it should come out in "coming weeks" as this tweet suggests - http://twitter.com/googlenexus/status/16974464310845440
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Is this "official" though? It's been 23 days since that post.
We'll get it, but I'm just bored of waiting. With so much anticipation, we'll probably be disappointed. Hope not.
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hircus said:
Unfortunately you can only relock the bootloader on Nexus S, according to a Google Android developer
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His question isn't about relocking the bootloader. But as long as you reflash the stock ROM and recovery, then I don't think there would be a way to tell without further examination. Regardless, HTC isn't too strict with the warranty claims, as many members on this forum have claimed warranty and sent back rooted phones to HTC. You should be fine.
andynx1 said:
Is this "official" though? It's been 23 days since that post.
We'll get it, but I'm just bored of waiting. With so much anticipation, we'll probably be disappointed. Hope not.
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that's 3 weeks. "coming weeks" being a PR equivalent of more than a month, we should be waiting for gb another 2 weeks at least...
It's only 5% of GB, but you can have the keyboard from it. A definite improvement and works perfectly on my N1 with 2.2.1 (no root needed):
http://www.appbrain.com/app/keyboard-from-android-2-3/com.moo.android.inputmethod.latin.free

Unlocking...always wipes the data?

As stated, does unlocking the bootloader always wipe the device?
It did on mine. All unlocking guides have shown it to do that.
goofball2k said:
It did on mine. All unlocking guides have shown it to do that.
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Wow, that blows. Well, I guess I am going stock for a while XD
Haven't got my nexus 7 yet, but I'm wondering why people say to do an OTA update before rooting. That's pointless if unlocking wipes the OS, as that's the prerequisite to root a device isn't it.
Locklear308 said:
Wow, that blows. Well, I guess I am going stock for a while XD
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I don't understand this mentality. Just do it so that it's less of a pain down the line.
Salty Wagyu said:
Haven't got my nexus 7 yet, but I'm wondering why people say to do an OTA update before rooting. That's pointless if unlocking wipes the OS, as that's the prerequisite to root a device isn't it.
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Doesn't wipe the OS, it wipes data (but not /sdcard); it's like a factory reset.
hopscotchjunkie said:
Doesn't wipe the OS, it wipes data (but not /sdcard); it's like a factory reset.
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It wipes everything mate. NOTHING IS SAFE!
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upstandingcitizen said:
It wipes everything mate. NOTHING IS SAFE!
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I unlocked the bootloader, relocked, and unlocked in a space of time.
After unlocking for the second time, EVERYTHING was gone, but my build.prop wasn't touched and I still had 4.1.1 (that I updated over OTA)

Will I get future OTA updates now I've locked the bootloader?

Have installed the 4.2 update via recovery and locked the bootloader. Will I now get future OTA updates from google?
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Retroglide08 said:
Have installed the 4.2 update via recovery and locked the bootloader. Will I now get future OTA updates from google?
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The bootloader being locked or unlocked makes no difference. We typically see people OTA update fails from people who have modified system apps/files or installed a different kernel.
Ah ok. I had previously rooted it. But decided to revert back now that I have installed 4.2
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Unlocking Bootloader
So, can you unlock the bootloader on 4.2? Or does it even matter on what Android version you are on?
Thanks and Cheers!
ErnestoV31 said:
So, can you unlock the bootloader on 4.2? Or does it even matter on what Android version you are on?
Thanks and Cheers!
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It's a Nexus. Of course you can unlock the bootloader.
veeman said:
It's a Nexus. Of course you can unlock the bootloader.
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Yeah, but is the method for unlocking it on 4.2 different from the method on 4.1.1?
Sorry Im asking all these questions, rooting is a bit different from jailbreaking lol
ErnestoV31 said:
Yeah, but is the method for unlocking it on 4.2 different from the method on 4.1.1?
Sorry Im asking all these questions, rooting is a bit different from jailbreaking lol
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Haha, no. The method is still the same. And I suspect it will be the same for a while to come.
Oh and welcome to the Android world
The bootloader is unrelated to the version of Android you are running.
It is a " boot loader" that runs before the operating system is loaded.
Unlock it once, when you first get the device - and it should stay unlocked forever.
Nothing to do with root either - except the bootloader has to be unlocked to root the device.
Root and unroot the device as you like - just never mess with the bootloader after you unlock it.
Unlocking purges all your files...
ErnestoV31 said:
Yeah, but is the method for unlocking it on 4.2 different from the method on 4.1.1?
Sorry Im asking all these questions, rooting is a bit different from jailbreaking lol
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fastboot oem unlock
It hasn't changed since the first Nexus device and won't be changing any time soon.
Welcome to an open platform

[Q] General Questions

Hello,
I have a NEVER ROOTED Motorola Droid Razr M XT709
In the end all I want to do is use my SD card to store app stuff, just the data would be acceptable ( entire thing would be best ). I am figuring I need to root my device to be able to do this but before I did I wanted to make sure I was capable of rooting it and UNrooting it as well. Here is a link to a screen shot from my phone with it's basic specs displayed under Settings > About Phone : https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16564468/Screenshot_2013-11-23-09-44-00.png
So...
Can I move apps or app data to SD without rooting? If so, how? If not...
Can I root? If so, what would be the safest method?
Can I unroot? If so, what is the safest method?
Thanks!
-Reiz
I hit a button accidentally while playing a game and got an ota. Posted link to new stats after ota
https://www.dropbox.com/s/eo11d9gqkbbltss/2013-11-23 16.20.04.png
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Unfortunately, I can't open your links at work, but I did see your first pic last night and on that version, you would have been able to root. If you took the latest update, then you can't root it.
RikRong said:
Unfortunately, I can't open your links at work, but I did see your first pic last night and on that version, you would have been able to root. If you took the latest update, then you can't root it.
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Is there any way to roll back on the OTA?
Reizvoller said:
Is there any way to roll back on the OTA?
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Not if your bootloader is locked.
RikRong said:
Not if your bootloader is locked.
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So essentially, even if I did a 'hard reset' , I am still boned?
Reizvoller said:
So essentially, even if I did a 'hard reset' , I am still boned?
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I would assume that you're talking about a factory reset? Yes, you are boned, it will only revert back to the latest OTA, which you just did.

Factory image 5.0 is out.

On the official google page. I'm a newbie and can't do outside links.
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
Only WiFi out so far it seems..
Am I blind, or did the Google Now launcher disappear? (I set up as new device, as I have both WiFi and LTE, and couldn't see which were which) I thought you just start Google Now and choose to use as launcher (so I can swipe from left to access Now) Someone please remind me?
Otherwise seem smooth (based on all of 5 mins usage. Used latest preview before)
Bah! I had to install Google Now Launcher...
oyoy said:
Only WiFi out so far it seems..
Am I blind, or did the Google Now launcher disappear? (I set up as new device, as I have both WiFi and LTE, and couldn't see which were which) I thought you just start Google Now and choose to use as launcher (so I can swipe from left to access Now) Someone please remind me?
Otherwise seem smooth (based on all of 5 mins usage. Used latest preview before)
Bah! I had to install Google Now Launcher...
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I guess they chose to have users install the Launcher from the Play Store. I was scratching my head for a minute also.
I've just flashed the stock factory image, word of warning... It took me 10 minutes for it to boot so be patient!
topgeardave said:
I've just flashed the stock factory image, word of warning... It took me 10 minutes for it to boot so be patient!
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Booting it now, glad someone said something, was wondering what was taking so long.
Mine has taken at least 20 minutes at the initial boot (spinning colors) screen. Anyone else taking very long?
Help!
On wugfresh when i enter the md5, it says mismatch, how do i fix this? Can you post the hash here? I tried the one for razor several times but to no avail.
JeremyNSL said:
Mine has taken at least 20 minutes at the initial boot (spinning colors) screen. Anyone else taking very long?
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It's normal just wait it out.
i haven't been following my N7 at all since i got the Tab S, but is there root out for 5.0 on this thing yet? i thought i remembred seeing it somewhere ..
Does flashing a factory image relock bootloader and lose root?
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BrickMeNot said:
On wugfresh when i enter the md5, it says mismatch, how do i fix this? Can you post the hash here? I tried the one for razor several times but to no avail.
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Same here, searching and can't find anything.
jayochs said:
i haven't been following my N7 at all since i got the Tab S, but is there root out for 5.0 on this thing yet? i thought i remembred seeing it somewhere ..
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I'm running Scott's build and it has root so yeah it's doable, just don't know how to do it on the factory image.
Root
Is there a stable way to root the official factory image of lolipop? Can I just flash something in recovery like the past? I am not sure what the word is on rooting now that the official images are out.
gleggie said:
Does flashing a factory image relock bootloader and lose root?
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No and yes. You need it unlocked to install the image and they recommend locking it when done but you're not going to want to. It returns it to stock Lollipop so no root.
SuperSU 2.19 beta is working fine for me.
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Can anyone confirm if double tap to wake is working?
gleggie said:
Does flashing a factory image relock bootloader and lose root?
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Correct me if I am wrong but I am pretty sure it won't relock bootloader but it will lose root.
iaguilera14 said:
Correct me if I am wrong but I am pretty sure it won't relock bootloader but it will lose root.
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Correct mate
mjones73 said:
Can anyone confirm if double tap to wake is working?
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Nope, its an N6/N9 feature only
gleggie said:
Does flashing a factory image relock bootloader and lose root?
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You lose root and recovery but your tablet doesn't relock
Thanks for all the quick replies, i'll flash the latest SuperSU after I flash the ROM

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