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Thinking about purchasing the nexus one? Here is a breakdown for all T Mobile customers of what's required.
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If you have a family plan, shared plan, flexpay plan or corporate account you will need to change before going to purchase the nexus one from the link above. Once all the above items are removed/changed then you are good to go and can enjoy the upgraded discount.
Quote from Nexus site "You can choose to purchase the Nexus One from the Google Phone Webstore without service for $529 USD, or with a qualifying T-Mobile US service plan at a discounted price:
Nexus One without service: $529
Nexus One with new, 2-year T-Mobile US service plan for new customers: $179
Nexus One with new, 2-year T-Mobile US service plan for qualifying existing T-Mobile customers who are adding data plans: $279
Nexus One with new, 2-year T-Mobile US service plan for qualifying existing T-Mobile customers who are upgrading their data plans: $379"
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I only paid 179.99 but that's because i opened a new line of service and got a new number. Be aware that if you open a new line of service to get the 179.99 price you CANNOT cancel your other line of service early or you will have to pay a 200.00 fee for early termination. The only option you have is to switch it to a home phone plan. If you decide to go that route as I did then it is 10.00 a month. It uses your sim card and a router that you get from T Mobile for 40.00. You must have a high speed connection to use this option.
I'm hoping you accidentally hit submit before finishing your post, cuz it doesn't make much sense to me.
I have been off contract since January 2009. How do I get the $179 price?
Edit: Just saw your post in the other thread. I think what you're saying confirms what the T-mo rep told me earlier today. She said that if I switched from my old grandfathered plan to the Even More 500 plan, then I'd be eligible for the $179 price. Not that I'm going to do it... it's cheaper for me to stick to my current plan and buying the phone unlocked.
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I'm hoping you accidentally hit submit before finishing your post, cuz it doesn't make much sense to me.
I have been off contract since January 2009. How do I get the $179 price?
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Someone in another forum had the same issue and apparently he had to add another line. Once his N1 comes in he plans on canceling his old line and switching his number over to the new line. I can try to find that post if need be.?
rantrav said:
Someone in another forum had the same issue and apparently he had to add another line. Once his N1 comes in he plans on canceling his old line and switching his number over to the new line. I can try to find that post if need be.?
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That's not necessary, but thanks. I'd only buy the phone unlocked, because it will considerably cheaper than switching plans and being in a contract again. I'm really just curious because it doesn't seem right that if we're off contract with T-mo, we couldn't take advantage of the subsidized price of the phone. Theoretically we're paying higher plan prices every month because our original phones were subsidized. So if we're off contract, then we should have paid T-mo back for that subsidy and they should either discount our monthly rate (like the Even More Plus plans), or subsidize a new phone for us.
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That's not necessary, but thanks. I'd only buy the phone unlocked, because it will considerably cheaper than switching plans and being in a contract again. I'm really just curious because it doesn't seem right that if we're off contract with T-mo, we couldn't take advantage of the subsidized price of the phone. Theoretically we're paying higher plan prices every month because our original phones were subsidized. So if we're off contract, then we should have paid T-mo back for that subsidy and they should either discount our monthly rate (like the Even More Plus plans), or subsidize a new phone for us.
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Sorry, people on here seem to like 'hard evidence' that is only text from another person. I am sure that this has been the plan since the beginning. Google, obviously having the upper hand and being in control, is calling the shots on how this works. T-Mobile, being an underdog, was probably given first dibs with this being part of the deal. But, I do agree with you. I bought it unlocked and would have rather saved the money and updated my phone with current plan. The guys post was something about he had a "grandfathered" in plan and was eligible through TMO for the update but with it being through Google he wasn't able to.... I guess all we can say is 'okay' and mush on.
I would have bought the unlocked version as well but I'm already paying the same amount as the plan that is required so took the discount and ran. I'm sure eventually there will be more plans available. Google is sure to take a lot of heat for it and will eventually crack...well I hope anyways lol.
Both of you should take a look at the discussion here:
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Mobile/thread?tid=3c0fd3870ec370a8&hl=en#all
It doesn't look good for people who are existing customers, off contract and want to sign a new contract. Kinda ****ty if you ask me, but fortunately it won't affect me.
For people interested in the tmo family plans, here is some math.
Getting 2 subsidized phones over a two-year period breaks down to an extra $15 a month ([$180 x2]/24). 2 unlocked phones is $44 a month ([$530 x2]/24).
Looking at text and web family plans with no annual contracts, its $109.99 for 750mins, $119.99 for 1500mins and $139.99 for unlimited. This gives you freedom of picking your plans or switching to another carrier that supports this phone.
Knowing that if you get the subsidized version, you will be paying $160 a month plus the breakdown of $15 a month (spreading out what you pay up front for the devices) it comes to $175 a month.
With the unlocked device price breakdown at $44 a month, you can see you will save money if you buy the unlocked phone and use either the 750min or 1500min family plans as they will cost you $154 and $164 respectively.
This is a two year savings of $504 and $264!
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Both of you should take a look at the discussion here:
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Mobile/thread?tid=3c0fd3870ec370a8&hl=en#all
It doesn't look good for people who are existing customers, off contract and want to sign a new contract. Kinda ****ty if you ask me, but fortunately it won't affect me.
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I love the first post that clearly states "only new T-mobile customers are eligible to purchase Nexus One at the discounted price of $179." If thats true then why did I get one for 179.99, I've been with them for 7 years! lol
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Both of you should take a look at the discussion here:
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Mobile/thread?tid=3c0fd3870ec370a8&hl=en#all
It doesn't look good for people who are existing customers, off contract and want to sign a new contract. Kinda ****ty if you ask me, but fortunately it won't affect me.
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I have a family plan with 4 lines so I had to break down and pay full price.... same when the G1 came out. Only reason is because i feel like this phone I will keep for some time. I hope. Google, I think, will be getting a lot of heat about this. I took a look at the link and there are A LOT of pissed off people on there. But GOOG does have the money to blow.
This is interesting guys
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Mobile/thread?tid=06a361e72a26b798&hl=en
ryanmo5 said:
i would have bought the unlocked version as well but i'm already paying the same amount as the plan that is required so took the discount and ran. I'm sure eventually there will be more plans available. Google is sure to take a lot of heat for it and will eventually crack...well i hope anyways lol.
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theyre all unlocked
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theyre all unlocked
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Oops lmao, I meant without service
I actually bought the unlocked phone for $530,-. I have another 6 months on my contract.
But this way, I'll be contract free, and am actually SAVING money now, because I had a G1 with Myfav600, which was $80,- a month.
And I never even come close to using my 600 minutes.
So the 500 plus plan is perfect for me. And I save $20,- a month.
And , when they get the Voip thing happening, I can use that as well, since I have a Google Voice number.
i'm a current T-mob customer with 9 mo left on my 2 yr contract i got with my G1, once i get some extra cash saved up i plan to pay the full price for the nexus one because for me at least i currently spend $53 a month on my service with t-mob and don't care or benefit to change it and if i could extend my contract and pay less for the phone by some amount it will still save me more in the long run by not having to pay for the dumb 80 dollar a month plan they force you to have by going that route
this is of course as long as they do not change their tune on how they are handling this before i'm ready to purchase the phone i.e. give me a discount of some amount to upgrade and keep my current plan or one very close to it
Im currently on the even more plus 500+unlimited text+Web
On flex pay. Iam so lucky i didnt sign a 2 year contract!
I just hope tmobile doesnt try to make me pay 80 if i buy the phone without a plan. Just going to pop in my sim from G1
I've posted this in a couple other threads but it should help here.
I'll tell everyone up front I worked for T-Mobile customer care for the last 4 years up until this past June and was a supervisor for the last year of my time there.
If you currently have a single line plan that is out of contract is qualifies through T-Mobile for the full discount but Google is giving you the price that is almost $400 here is what you can do it get around it. And change to the Even More plans prior WILL NOT fix this issue.
Alot of people are getting bad information from TMobile about what needs to be done because the reps were given almost no information about the ordering process. So most reps and just going with the flow to try and get people off the phone.
When you go to order the phone with Google select the option to add a new line to your account. It will give you the 179.99 price for adding the new line. Once the new phone comes in the mail call T-Mobile and cancel your old line and ask them to put a "request old number back" request to replace the new number with your old one. This takes about 24 hours to go through. During that 24 hours your old number will not work because you have to cancel it before you do this.
I know for a fact this will work but the rep you talk to may give you crap about doing this and not let you because they want to be a ****. If you're worried about that call and cancel you old line when you get the phone then call back and talk to another rep and tell them to put in the request for you.
Don't you have to pay the 200 dollar ETF if you cancel a line?
There's no ETF if the line has no contract. So if you add a new line to get the discount you can cancel the old one without a fee
Ah I missed that part. I am trying to get the 180 price and I only have a few months left on my contract and they won't upgrade it. They will let me add a new line of service though.
ok here goes just bought the phone and got it for $372.00. i checked with t-mobile and google twice. U have to set-up a new line and buy the phone for $179.00 and then cancel with-in 14 days (buyers remorse period). then u keep the phone and pay the new EFT fee of $150.00. the phone comes out to be $372.00 bc those cheap ****s tax you on $529.00 not $179.00. but i have checked with tmobile and google this works i even told them what i was going to do. i am on a family plan but it is in my dads name that is why i am able to setup an account in my name. hope this helps
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ok here goes just bought the phone and got it for $372.00. i checked with t-mobile and google twice. U have to set-up a new line and buy the phone for $179.00 and then cancel with-in 14 days (buyers remorse period). then u keep the phone and pay the new EFT fee of $150.00. the phone comes out to be $372.00 bc those cheap ****s tax you on $529.00 not $179.00. but i have checked with tmobile and google this works i even told them what i was going to do. i am on a family plan but it is in my dads name that is why i am able to setup an account in my name. hope this helps
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You sure you don't have to return the phone to T-Mobile? Subsidized phones have to be returned or the ETF has to be paid to the carrier (plus google's $150 equipment recovery fee) if the contract is canceled. Feel free to try it, but I would suspect you get charged for the phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=622306
I like how they're "cheap ****s" yet you're the one trying to scam them out of getting the full price of the phone
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Nice! haha
But yeah you won't get the phone for $372. If you could everyone would be doing it. And next time use the search, you'll find plenty more people like yourself.
cymru said:
@seanhassars
Nice! haha
But yeah you won't get the phone for $372. If you could everyone would be doing it. And next time use the search, you'll find plenty more people like yourself.
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Cheap ****s?
Well I just talk to t-mobile once again and they insured me that if i cancel my service within 14 day i will not pay anything. And Google will only charge me the $150 called and made sure of that as well. Also T-mobile noted my account about what is going on. But when i say cheap ****s ha ha i mean you can not upgrade to the phone on a family plan and they are also taxing me on the retail price instead of the purchase price. I will let u guys know what happens
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Well I just talk to t-mobile once again and they insured me that if i cancel my service within 14 day i will not pay anything. And Google will only charge me the $150 called and made sure of that as well. Also T-mobile noted my account about what is going on. But when i say cheap ****s ha ha i mean you can not upgrade to the phone on a family plan and they are also taxing me on the retail price instead of the purchase price. I will let u guys know what happens
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If you said "I plan to get it, then cancel, and then use the phone on my family plan" then that would make sense as they have already been helpful for people who are trying to get these phones on their family plans at less than full price - though I think there are possibly even cheaper ways of doing it that don't involve paying another $150 to Google.
If you said "If I cancel within 14 days will I pay anything?" then they may have said "No" assuming that you would be returning the phone to google which are the standard terms of cancelling under the buyer's remorse clause.
But, did you call T-Mobile and say "I am going to order this phone, then cancel the contract within 14 days and I will *not* be returning the phone to Google"? If so, then they should have told you that they will charge the $200 unless you return the phone.
The entire reason Google dropped the "equipment recovery fee" from $350 to $150 was because of this $200 that T-Mobile collects from you. You can avoid both by returning the phone within 14 days. You can avoid neither by cancelling and keeping the phone, no matter what the time frame is.
Hey flarbear i told tmobile that i am not returning the phone, and they said that they have nothing to do with the phone bc i bought it form Google not them. I mean i have called them 4 times to make sure of this. I don't understand why everyone on this site is getting mad about this if this works it is good for all. also in the term of sale it says to connect the provider to get their termination fee and i am going by that.
I got mine for $330 because I have my own plan and don't live off my parents.
Just saying, what you're planning on doing constitutes fraud. Something that is a rather serious offense, and if found out could lead to much more than that extra ~$140 that you're "saving". Also, as part of buyers remorse, you must return the phone in order to qualify. And even if Tmo isn't selling you the phone directly, a partner is. And since Tmo is the subsidized partner, they're even more willing to charge you extra fees since they make money off the fees and plans, not the phones.
On a different note, if they are truly, without confusion, maliciously deceiving you, then its a whole different ball game.
ps. Your horrific English may have also confused them.
Actually its not fraud. Everything he is doing is totally legal.
It may be against the spirit of the deal google/T-Mobile are offering, but there is absolutely nothing illegal about it. Which part would you say is illegal and which law specifically would relate to it?
It would be fraud if he were buying the phone and saying it was stolen when it wasnt. I would be fraud if he lied to T-Mobile and said that the phone was broken and that's why he is cancelling. In this case he has a right to pay the ETF and terminate early as per the terms of the sale. He is not obligated to disclose why, or even enter into the sale more inclined to keep it than not.
Google charges you a recovery fee if you don't return the phone. That brings you above the price of buying it unsubsidized.
I assume you'll be cancelling your credit card or whatever payment you made with it.
Way to go thief.
google's terms of sale said:
For example, if the full price of the Nexus handheld device without service plan was $529 USD and the price you paid for the Nexus handheld device was $179 USD with a service plan, the Equipment Recovery Fee you pay will be $350 USD in the event you cancel within the first 120 days of carrier service.
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179 + 350 = 529
Then you have t-mobile fees for not returning your device after being "unsatisfied".
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4. Cancellation and Returns. You can cancel your Service without paying an Early Termination Fee if you cancel WITHIN 14 DAYS of activating a new line of Service (30 days if you activate in California; other states may differ "“ ask your sales representative) ("œReturn Period"). You remain responsible to pay for the Service and all charges, fees and taxes incurred through the date of cancellation. To cancel during the Return Period, you must return to the store where you activated (or, if purchased online or by phone, follow the return instructions in the package), and return any Device you acquired at the time of activation. To receive a refund of the purchase price of your Device (less rebates received and shipping costs), you must return it (with original packaging and all contents) within the Return Period in undamaged condition and good working order to the place of purchase. You may be required to pay a restocking fee. If you do not comply with store policy, we may elect not to process your Service cancellation or you may be charged the suggested retail price of the Device, (which may be greater than the price you paid), plus any shipping and handling charges. If you activated your Service through an authorized T-Mobile dealer, the dealer"™s return policy may differ from T-Mobile"™s policies.
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Techinally both t-mobile AND google can come after you for the full price of the phone, meaning 529 x2.
Matter of fact, I encourage you to attemp this little theft, I'd love to see real world repercussions.
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Well I just talk to t-mobile once again and they insured me that if i cancel my service within 14 day i will not pay anything. And Google will only charge me the $150 called and made sure of that as well. Also T-mobile noted my account about what is going on. But when i say cheap ****s ha ha i mean you can not upgrade to the phone on a family plan and they are also taxing me on the retail price instead of the purchase price. I will let u guys know what happens
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t mobile nor google has any say so on how much tax they want to charge you
I don't understand why you guys are getting mad and attacking his character when you have a problem with his method. He is trying to test out a potential loophole. That is not illegal or fraud, just trying to beat the system.
we have these things called casinos for such endeavors..
While I find the action morally questionable at best, given the changes in Google's terms of sale for the Nexus One it would probably work. You are entering a contract with a premeditated plan to immediately break it to your benefit. It is at the very least a violation of good faith terms but this may or may not be actionable. Even if it is actionable the chances of either party (T-Mo or Google) bothering is not high.
Prior to the changing of the wording there was little doubt you would pay the full price, but they changed the terms due to the outrage at the "double dipping" return fee.
I have no issue with the OP, I just found it rather ironic considering the thread topic that he was upset google had the audactiy to charge him tax on the full retail price and that they were being cheap. I still don't think this would work considering the whole google "if you change/cancel your plan within 120 days you'll be charged the full price of the phone" deal, but if they've changed the wording I say go for it and be the guinea pig.
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Google charges you a recovery fee if you don't return the phone. That brings you above the price of buying it unsubsidized.
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You should look into this again. Google lowered this fee from the original $350 down to $150. When it was at $350 it was obvious that you would be paying more, but now that they have it at $150 it is no longer so obvious.
http://consumerist.com/2010/08/sprint-hikes-prices-by-dumping-discounts.html
If Sprint changes the terms of service on your existing contract, you have the right to end it with no ETF and keep your phone.
Not saying I want to get out of my contract, but last time Sprint changed their TOS, tons of ppl haggled their way into getting $20 off per month for 24 months in order to NOT break their contract.
You have 30 days from when the charge first appears on your bill. So if your BILLING date is Aug 23, you have until Sept. 22 to assert your right to cancel.
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From Sprint's contract, you can only cancel the affected lines
Our Right To Change The Agreement & Your Related Rights
We may change any part of the Agreement at any time, including, but not limited to, rates, charges, how we calculate charges, or your terms of Service. We will provide you notice of material changes, and may provide you notice of non-material changes, in a manner consistent with this Agreement (see "Providing Notice To Each Other Under The Agreement" section). If a change we make to the Agreement is material and has a material adverse effect on Services under your Term Commitment, you may terminate each line of Service materially affected without incurring an Early Termination Fee only if you: (a) call us within 30 days after the effective date of the change; and (b) specifically advise us that you wish to cancel Services because of a material change to the Agreement that we have made. If you do not cancel Service within 30 days of the change, an Early Termination Fee will apply if you terminate Services before the end of any applicable Term Commitment.
Update 2: Several people have reported getting credited back what is being "un-discounted" from their bill.
itmustbejj said:
http://consumerist.com/2010/08/sprint-hikes-prices-by-dumping-discounts.html
If Sprint changes the terms of service on your existing contract, you have the right to end it with no ETF and keep your phone.
Not saying I want to get out of my contract, but last time Sprint changed their TOS, tons of ppl haggled their way into getting $20 off per month for 24 months in order to NOT break their contract.
And before you freak out, this really isn't that big of a deal IIRC, your base discount goes on your main plan, so I think it's saying the +20 per lines 3-5 will no longer be eligible for the discount.
But still, I wouldn't mind getting in on some of that 20/24 action....
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i have 4 phones and with my discount ( 27% ) i pay 180ish a month for unlimited everything not sure ill be happy if my discount drops off the other 2 lines might have to raise a stink about this
Sporkman said:
i have 4 phones and with my discount ( 27% ) i pay 180ish a month for unlimited everything not sure ill be happy if my discount drops off the other 2 lines might have to raise a stink about this
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Ahhh so you are a citi group "employee"
itmustbejj said:
http://consumerist.com/2010/08/sprint-hikes-prices-by-dumping-discounts.html
If Sprint changes the terms of service on your existing contract, you have the right to end it with no ETF and keep your phone.
Not saying I want to get out of my contract, but last time Sprint changed their TOS, tons of ppl haggled their way into getting $20 off per month for 24 months in order to NOT break their contract.
And before you freak out, this really isn't that big of a deal IIRC, your base discount goes on your main plan, so I think it's saying the +20 per lines 3-5 will no longer be eligible for the discount.
But still, I wouldn't mind getting in on some of that 20/24 action....
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Do I have to terminate my plan if I want to get out of my contract? Or can I get out of my contract and go month to month?
How much time has to pass before you can sign up with them again?
you have to wait atleast 3 to 6 months.. should i stay or should i go now? i can get the same phone on clear in another month, can just go to boost for a month or two until its out... but i did pay $500 for this thing...
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Ahhh so you are a citi group "employee"
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no im not, mines legit lol i have this discount for about 10 years
That sucks. I signed up with 4 lines in June 2010 with 25% discount. My bill is now $170, so with this new policy, it'll be $180. That's more than what I was paying for AT&T with 4 lines. Might have to talk to Sprint and figure out if something can be done as one of the main reasons for moving to Sprint was due to it's price and now it's really not much of a difference.
If they change the TOS, can I cancel the contract and just pay them monthly as if my contract expired?
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If they change the TOS, can I cancel the contract and just pay them monthly as if my contract expired?
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No. You are canceling the contract and your service goes with it.
if this affects you (2 or more lines) you can always setup a new account with another person on your account as the primary account holder, or just use boost after cancelling and sign up with clear after they sign up.
Before everyone gets their panties in a bunch, this change is only going to affect people with an old "add a line" plans. I found another post about this subject in another forum, and sprint isn't changing anything for the newer "unlimited" plans. Chances are, if you're using a smart phone, you aren't using the old plans where you had options to add data, add text, add internet, etc. And really, I would think that if you have an old plan where you only get limited minutes and you're buying a text plan, buying data, buying picture mail, and anything else .. you're probably paying too much and you should have changed your plan a long time ago.
Or so I hope what I found is correct, we have a family plan with 5 lines. Lol
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That sucks. I signed up with 4 lines in June 2010 with 25% discount. My bill is now $170, so with this new policy, it'll be $180. That's more than what I was paying for AT&T with 4 lines. Might have to talk to Sprint and figure out if something can be done as one of the main reasons for moving to Sprint was due to it's price and now it's really not much of a difference.
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We just signed up 3 lines with the 1500 min. /mo any mobile any time plan - all 3 evos. I have a 23% student discount and that's the reason I went with sprint. It works out to $52 bucks a month x3 phones, but if that's ending, then will cancel sprint and just go with the iphone 4 on att, keep the evos and sell them.
I'm actually kind of pissed about this, but if I can have a iphone 4 for the same price sprint will go up to, then I might as well have that.
FYI - depsite what the post on Consumerist says, I've been hearing elsewhere that Sprint does not consider this a "materially adverse change" and won't waive your ETF because of it. I don't care either way personally because it's still cheaper than any comprable family plan on Verizon or AT&T.
I'm chatting with a rep right now about this new ToS change.
The discount will only apply to the first 2 lines of any family plan after the said date!
Call this number if you want to find out for sure if you can get out ETF free and keep your phones: 1888-211-4727
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We just signed up 3 lines with the 1500 min. /mo any mobile any time plan - all 3 evos. I have a 23% student discount and that's the reason I went with sprint. It works out to $52 bucks a month x3 phones, but if that's ending, then will cancel sprint and just go with the iphone 4 on att, keep the evos and sell them.
I'm actually kind of pissed about this, but if I can have a iphone 4 for the same price sprint will go up to, then I might as well have that.
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I'm pissed as well. I paid like $350 in ETFs and got rid of my ATT phones because with the discounts, I knew I would be paying less with Sprint. I also paid about $700 for the 4 Sprint phones (2 Evo and 2 blackberry).
I chatted with a Sprint rep and he said they will no longer offer discounts to lines 3-5 on services less than $29.99.
I'd switch back to ATT if I can get out without paying the ETF with Sprint.
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I'm pissed as well. I paid like $350 in ETFs and got rid of my ATT phones because with the discounts, I knew I would be paying less with Sprint. I also paid about $700 for the 4 Sprint phones (2 Evo and 2 blackberry).
I chatted with a Sprint rep and he said they will no longer offer discounts to lines 3-5 on services less than $29.99.
I'd switch back to ATT if I can get out without paying the ETF with Sprint.
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So does that mean my $29.99 Evo family line is still discounted?
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Before everyone gets their panties in a bunch, this change is only going to affect people with an old "add a line" plans. I found another post about this subject in another forum, and sprint isn't changing anything for the newer "unlimited" plans. Chances are, if you're using a smart phone, you aren't using the old plans where you had options to add data, add text, add internet, etc. And really, I would think that if you have an old plan where you only get limited minutes and you're buying a text plan, buying data, buying picture mail, and anything else .. you're probably paying too much and you should have changed your plan a long time ago.
Or so I hope what I found is correct, we have a family plan with 5 lines. Lol
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i hope you are right my phone plan rocks ! and would hate to loose it
jblazea50 said:
That sucks. I signed up with 4 lines in June 2010 with 25% discount. My bill is now $170, so with this new policy, it'll be $180. That's more than what I was paying for AT&T with 4 lines. Might have to talk to Sprint and figure out if something can be done as one of the main reasons for moving to Sprint was due to it's price and now it's really not much of a difference.
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So does that mean my $29.99 Evo family line is still discounted?
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I chatted with a rep an hour ago and got this:
The discount will only apply to the first 2 lines of any family plan after the said date!
Call this number if you want to find out for sure if you can get out ETF free and keep your phones: 1888-211-4727
Orrrr, we could always just call this number instead and actually get some where.
http://consumerist.com/2007/05/spri...eader-executive-customer-service-hotline.html
datajosh said:
FYI - depsite what the post on Consumerist says, I've been hearing elsewhere that Sprint does not consider this a "materially adverse change" and won't waive your ETF because of it. I don't care either way personally because it's still cheaper than any comprable family plan on Verizon or AT&T.
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"materially adverse" means "affecting your money". All the carriers do this, they posture and try to downplay the change to the TOS for 30 days after it goes into effect because by that time it's too late to get out of your contract.
The fact remains, you signed a contract with determined terms. If they change that contract before it expires YOU ARE NO LONGER BOUND TO IT. Don't let them BS you, know they are bound to the contract just as much as you are. Stand up for yourself if you are unhappy about this.
So a local T Mobile store has 5 in stock. Of course at first I was initially excited but the feeling quickly went away as I thought to myself, "Is it worth the trouble?" My initial plan was to buy the phone on contract for $150 (discounted for work), sign up for the cheapest what ever classic plan then leave. Figured I'd cancel it in a few days then head over to Walmart and get the 30$ Prepaid plan. The thing is, I am planning on moving overseas In February so being unlocked is key. It seems that it is unlocked so thats not the issue. The problem is the termination fee might not be 200 as I initially thought but would be for the remainder of the phone (about $350). I don't know if that is comfirmed but still.
If you were in my shoes, would you chance the fees just to have the phone a month early (and be one of those evil posters who post about it) or just bite the bullet and wait for a second batch that you might not even have a chance to order from?
I have a 2 year old optimus but in no rush to have it in my hands but then again, it would be awesome to be one of the first to have it.
Any advice, suggestions, thoughts are appreciated.
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jeremydc808 said:
So a local T Mobile store has 5 in stock. Of course at first I was initially excited but the feeling quickly went away as I thought to myself, "Is it worth the trouble?" My initial plan was to buy the phone on contract for $150 (discounted for work), sign up for the cheapest what ever classic plan then leave. Figured I'd cancel it in a few days then head over to Walmart and get the 30$ Prepaid plan. The thing is, I am planning on moving overseas In February so being unlocked is key. It seems that it is unlocked so thats not the issue. The problem is the termination fee might not be 200 as I initially thought but would be for the remainder of the phone (about $350). I don't know if that is comfirmed but still.
If you were in my shoes, would you chance the fees just to have the phone a month early (and be one of those evil posters who post about it) or just bite the bullet and wait for a second batch that you might not even have a chance to order from?
I have a 2 year old optimus but in no rush to have it in my hands but then again, it would be awesome to be one of the first to have it.
Any advice, suggestions, thoughts are appreciated.
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That's not a very bright idea...ANY US CARRIER will not allow you to buy a device on contract price then cancel without paying the early termination fee, services used fees, taxes and the price of the device in full if you do not return it. There is no way around that because you must return the equipment before they will do any line cancellations. The only option you would have is to buy it at FULL RETAIL PRICE ($499.99) from t-mobile and get a prepaid $1 per day plan so you can get the unlock code sent to you via email. Trying to play with phone subsidies does not work.
Keep the following things in mind:
1. You may have to pay an activation fee.
2. You will probably have to pay for the first month of service.
3. ETF may be more than $200 (I'm not sure how much it actually is).
Tmobile's ETF is $200 but you might have to also pay the difference in the retail price if you want to keep the phone
honestly that not a problem just sign up with the contact and everything and when u call in to cancel your contact just tell them that your going to that your joining the army and there u go no contact cancellation fee
Jrude2262 said:
honestly that not a problem just sign up with the contact and everything and when u call in to cancel your contact just tell them that your going to that your joining the army and there u go no contact cancellation fee
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Actually, this will not always work. For your ETF to be waived for military deployment, active orders will need to be provided to Customer Relations. Without it, all ETF and fees will be valid.
SevenSe7enSeven said:
Tmobile's ETF is $200 but you might have to also pay the difference in the retail price if you want to keep the phone
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And you should also keep in mind that the retail price they use may not be the low $350 that Google is charging through the play store. From what I've read, LG's suggested retail price for the phone is actually $499 so you may end up having to pay that to T-Mobile if you cancel.
I'm contemplating on if I should switch to T-Mobile because as of now I'm paying $100+ a month but if I switch to T-mobile my phone bill will be $42.50. Should I pay that ETF and just switch. Please help me out guys.
ATT just added a new charge that isnt government mandated, its 62 cents or something, you can get out of your contract by following this:
http://smartphones.wonderhowto.com/how-to/get-out-your-at-t-contract-early-without-early-termination-fee-etf-0147120/
I would if you are going to see that much of a monthly savings. There are a lot of other things to consider such as coverage area, length of your current contract (i.e. how much is it going to cost to get out of it). Do a cost/savings analysis. Should make the decision easier. My quick and dirty math says that you'll save $1,380 over the life of a two year contract and only pay $350(?) to get out of the ATT contract. Just my 2 cents...
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I would if you are going to see that much of a monthly savings. There are a lot of other things to consider such as coverage area, length of your current contract (i.e. how much is it going to cost to get out of it). Do a cost/savings analysis. Should make the decision easier. My quick and dirty math says that you'll save $1,380 over the life of a two year contract and only pay $350(?) to get out of the ATT contract. Just my 2 cents...
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So are you saying its worth it
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So are you saying its worth it
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He is saying yes.
$100 a month for 24 months = $2400 over 2 year contract
$42.50 a month for 24 months =$1020 over 2 years
Difference of $1380, and with $350 calculated in, you will save $1030 over 2 years.
Question is, will the $42 plan fulfill your needs for the next 2 years... if so, go ahead and pay the ETF and switch. You'd have broken even in 6 months from the the money you'll save.
If I can get out of the contract because of the .62 cents they added a month then that would be fantastic
LeKtRiCzzz said:
If I can get out of the contract because of the .62 cents they added a month then that would be fantastic
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you're gonna cancel anyways right, so play the Tax card first.... it's worth a try.
Just read through the thread, basically it's a breach of contract and you don't authorize the charges. option 1) to remove the charges as they breach your contract, you don't want them shown on your statement at all. They really have no control and can't do this obviously. so fall on to option 2) Cancel your contract immediately while waiving the Early Termination Fee and allowing you time to find another carrier because you don't agree with their breach of contract.
You'll have to try a couple times, at that point if the answer is NO, then it will always be a NO. They notate your account well.
Finally, tell them how VERY VERY disappointed you are in their service and the way they are handling this, in your right mind you cannot continue to do business with them, even if you have pay the ETF (Which you think you shouldn't). it's a matter of principal, which AT&T seems to lack in or something like that. DO NOT MAKE IT THE REPS issue, it's not their fault, you have to remember they're also following protocol. just be clear that when you refer to "YOU" you're really referring to AT&T as a whole and AT&T's management.
Be firm, but please be nice, yelling, being mad is NEVER EVER get you anywhere with a service rep.
for the reasons above, I've NEVER paid Activation fees, upgrade fees, etc etc.... They've always waived them for me.
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you're gonna cancel anyways right, so play the Tax card first.... it's worth a try.
Just read through the thread, basically it's a breach of contract and you don't authorize the charges. option 1) to remove the charges as they breach your contract, you don't want them shown on your statement at all. They really have no control and can't do this obviously. so fall on to option 2) Cancel your contract immediately while waiving the Early Termination Fee and allowing you time to find another carrier because you don't agree with their breach of contract.
You'll have to try a couple times, at that point if the answer is NO, then it will always be a NO. They notate your account well.
Finally, tell them how VERY VERY disappointed you are in their service and the way they are handling this, in your right mind you cannot continue to do business with them, even if you have pay the ETF (Which you think you shouldn't). it's a matter of principal, which AT&T seems to lack in or something like that. DO NOT MAKE IT THE REPS issue, it's not their fault, you have to remember they're also following protocol. just be clear that when you refer to "YOU" you're really referring to AT&T as a whole and AT&T's management.
Be firm, but please be nice, yelling, being mad is NEVER EVER get you anywhere with a service rep.
for the reasons above, I've NEVER paid Activation fees, upgrade fees, etc etc.... They've always waived them for me.
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I want to hurry up and cancel my contract before a lot of people start doing this but Im not going to be getting my SIM Card from T-Mobile untill Wednesday so should i cancel now or wait until i get the sim card
I currently have eight lines with AT&T and was doing the calculations and I would be saving hundreds of dollars by switching to T Mobile. Then I remembered the old days with T Mobile what I had horrible reception and unstable 3G internet connection. I remember the days when I would be on the highway and needed to get directions or look something up and I immediately would lose internet or drop down to edge and would be frustrated. If you are a heavy phone user and depend on the internet reliability for your business or everyday activities then I suggest not to switch to T Mobile. Actually a friend of mine has T Mobile and has the iPhone and they finally have 3G connection but they probably spend more time on edge then on 3G so if you're not bothered by slower internet speeds then you should make the move and save money. But remember you get what you pay for. On AT&T you're getting super fast LTE speeds that are some times faster than home internet with T Mobile well if you're lucky you'll get 3G for half of the day.
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