I have recently bought a Nexus 7 and discovered that it appears to have problems with its bluetooth connectivity. I often use my Big Jambox to play music over bluetooth from my laptop and smartphone such as Spotify and had zeros issues. However, when using my Nexus 7 with the Jambox it intermittently cuts out on a regular basis, no matter the distance, location, or presence of other interfering bluetooth signals. I originally thought this only happened when the screen turned off on the Nexus 7 but it actually happens all the time.Is the Nexus 7 known for a 'weak' bluetooth, is my specific one likely to be faulty? Has anyone else had any similar issues? Any help would be much appreciated. Cheers.
Edit: I have exchanged the Jambox thinking the issue may have been that. However, the issue still persists with the new one.
Can you describe the "cutout" in greater detail?
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Just played a 9 minute song with the Nexus in one room and the iHome speaker in another room (50 feet or so).
At the 8 minute mark there was a small instantaneous snap sound. That was all. Overall I feel its very good.
I've been using mine with a Bluetooth receiver hooked up to my home stereo and it's working fine.
No issues with my Bose soundlink, or HTC stereclip I've been paired with.
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Been using with m jambox, no issues.
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Looks like its my Nexus 7 then. I'll have to exchange it. Thanks for all the replies.
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Are those with working A2DP audio, playing content over WiFi or stuff you've previously downloaded to your N7? I seem only to get problems when WiFi is pumping data. Maybe the current implementation doesn't let Bluetooth and WiFi play nice together?
I, too, have the same problem.
Are you connected to any other Bluetooth connection at the same time? This is the only time I ever have a problem when streaming in the car.
Exchanged my Nexus 7 and the new one works flawlessly. Original must have been faulty.
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Hmm, I'm wondering if there is an issue with my nexus 7. I've been complaining on another thread about getting bluetooth mic's working. But I noticed the last few days when I'm at work (I work in a busy downtown core) in certain areas I always get skips/stops in the music. Like it always happens in the same spot. There's one corner near my work that as soon as I approach it I know I'm going to get skips.
I thought maybe it's how I'm holding it, but near my home I can walk with it in either hand, almost swinging it back and forth and I cannot make a skip. But every morning/night going to/from work I can guarantee I'll get skips. This is with wifi off and bluetooth not looking for other devices.
I know bluetooth and wifi share some of the same range, even though I have wifi off, in the area I'm at there are numerous wifi hotspots and providers blanketing the downtown core with accessible wifi. Could this cause an interference issue or do I have a bad device? Besides bluetooth issues my device is flawless and counted myself as one of the lucky ones.
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Anyone tried it and get it to work? I have tried several times with contacts pictures and Web pages but nothing happens. Nfc is enabled on both devices.
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Anyone tried it and get it to work? I have tried several times with contacts pictures and Web pages but nothing happens. Nfc is enabled on both devices.
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I tried doing it with my GSG3 and i was able to get "Touch to beam" pop up a couple of times trying to beam a youtube video just to see if it worked and it never did
NFC tags are working ok.
I was able to get them to work. Just remember the NFC antenna locations. The Galaxy Nexus uses the battery and the Nexus 7 has a spot pretty high up on the back of the device.
I transfered some short video clips and they automatically switch to Bluetooth and transfer the file. Once it is done it shuts Bluetooth back off.
Just make sure you are touching them together in the right places and it should work just fine.
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NFC tags are working ok.
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How are you doing it?
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How are you doing it?
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Make sure both screens are on and unlocked....hold the galaxy nexus up to the big nexus logo on the back of the nexus 7 and you should get the android beam jingle.
Touch whichever screen you're trying to beam. photos go through bluetooth so it'll temporarily turn on bluetooth to send and then turn back off.
Got it to work first try on my nexus s 4g. I had to put the Google logo on the ns4g to the x in nexus. It makes sound when they get close then the screen will shrink and say touch to beam at the top. Tap the screen and it will transfer.
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Got it to work first try on my nexus s 4g. I had to put the Google logo on the ns4g to the x in nexus. It makes sound when they get close then the screen will shrink and say touch to beam at the top. Tap the screen and it will transfer.
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ya its all about placement. Held the battery of my gnex up to the top of my Nexus 7 and Wham! 2 Nexus 7 works just back to back
I am not sure if the NFC chip in my N7 is working. It is definitely on and Android Beam is on. I tried sharing everything from a picture, contact, YouTube video to my Galaxy Nexus and nothing is happening. There is no sound, no acknowledgement that anything is being transmitted, even using the placement in the above pictures. I've tried turning both NFC/Android Beam on and off, along with restarting the N7. I know the Galaxy Nexus works as I have used Google Wallet, and I just downloaded an NFC reader and it picked up on an ID card I have. I tried a similar NFC reader app on the N7 and nothing was picked up at all when I held it over the Nexus area. Any advice...or am I just completely missing something? Everything else about the tablet is perfect, so if this isn't working right then that will be a major bummer.
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I am not sure if the NFC chip in my N7 is working. It is definitely on and Android Beam is on. I tried sharing everything from a picture, contact, YouTube video to my Galaxy Nexus and nothing is happening. There is no sound, no acknowledgement that anything is being transmitted, even using the placement in the above pictures. I've tried turning both NFC/Android Beam on and off, along with restarting the N7. I know the Galaxy Nexus works as I have used Google Wallet, and I just downloaded an NFC reader and it picked up on an ID card I have. I tried a similar NFC reader app on the N7 and nothing was picked up at all when I held it over the Nexus area. Any advice...or am I just completely missing something? Everything else about the tablet is perfect, so if this isn't working right then that will be a major bummer.
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You see the Samsung Logo on your Galaxy Nexus? Press it against the Nexus logo on the N7. If it's not working, you're not doing something right.
I can't speak for the Nexus but I can confirm that NFC works flawlessly with my Evo 4G LTE. Just have to make sure that you are lining up the NFC areas of both devices.
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Mine is working fine, VZW on 4.1.1, as others have said make sure you line the battery up with Nexus on the tablet. It will then say touch to beam
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I'm having the same issue as OP. I have GSM Gnex and N7 from play store, 4.1.1 on both. When sharing from GN to N7, the GN will vibrate, then the Touch To Beam will come up, but then go away. Split second later, it will vibrate and TTB will come up again. Repeat ad nauseum. I cannot get it to stay in "beam mode" for it to actually beam. I have gotten it to stick for a few seconds and let me tap, where I see the thing shrink intospace, but it never get's very far before it leaves TTB mode. Nothing happens at all if I turn NFC or android beam off on my N7, so the GNex is at least detecting it. When I try and share from N7 to Gnex, the Gnex will vibrate, but nothing happens on either screen. I think my N7 is defective either hardware or software wise. I will take both to a cellphone store that has NFC android devices and try and share with them, to narrow down if it's the Gnex, N7, or both that have issues. I do not know of any nearby places to try Wallet with. Of course if I find an issue, it's an hour and a half wait on the phone for me
I have no problem using NFC on my N7 with my Gnex... must be software or hardware related... Hope you guys didn't switch battery since the NFC chip is inside.
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Thanks for this! Was worried either my N7 or GNex had a defective NFC, looks like it's all in the placement.
NFC Galaxy Nexus
Sorry for an old thread bump,
I was trying to use NFC to transfer a video from a friend's SGS3 to my Galaxy Nexus both on ICS 4.0.4 ( only I am using a custom ROM AOKP). There is a distinct jingle that is audible and I can confirm that but there is no other option available to transfer.
Am i missing something here? Am i supposed to turn my bluetooth on and start sharing over bluetooth for NFC? Android Beam is working for contacts and other small stuff but I am talking about NFC here.
Kindly mention the steps required. I am overlooking something and want to use this feature badly as there is a lot of data transfer going on.
Thanks.
The only thing that should happen after the audible ding is the screen will/should shrink down. You tap the screen. Should transfer over to the other device.
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I was able to get them to work. Just remember the NFC antenna locations. The Galaxy Nexus uses the battery and the Nexus 7 has a spot pretty high up on the back of the device.
I transfered some short video clips and they automatically switch to Bluetooth and transfer the file. Once it is done it shuts Bluetooth back off.
Just make sure you are touching them together in the right places and it should work just fine.
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This! I tried forever to find the "sweet spot" (that's what she said), and it works fine once you find out its in the upper third of the device when held in portrait orientation and centered left to right.
is anyone experiencing popping/disturbances in their bluetooth streaming? My bluetooth headset and radio sound terrible! There is this odd popping sound that occurs intermittently. This sound occurs on two different blue tooth receivers, so I'm confident the issue lies within the phone. I know other Nexus devices are having bluetooth issues, but from what I understood no one has reported an issue with a nexus 4. Anyone else out there with the same problems?
Negative. No issues with Bluetooth audio here.
Bluetooth works fine when I stream music to my headset.
Nothing wrong on my end either.
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This seems to be a general Problem. Every phone with a Qualcomm SoC / Bluetooth Chip has problems streaming to my car radio (JVC) and to my headset (Sony Ericsson MW600). This was the case with: HTC One S, HTC Desire S, HTC Sensation and now also with Nexus 4.
I never had any issues with: Samsung Galaxy S2, S3, Galaxy Nexus and other phones.
Got the HTC car stereo Bluetooth adapter and there is static. Wife's iPhone is fine with it. Sweet.
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I'm having the same issue. Audio cuts out every few seconds. I've only tried it in my car so far with pandora and tunein radio. I will try with moto headset at work on friday but im sure its an issue with 4.2. Never had it happen with my gs2. Seems to be a common issue with new bluetooth stack in 4.2, with more occurrences on gnex and nexus 7. Google is aware of this and many other bugs in 4.2
Bluetooth was working fine until I dropped my headset into the dog's water dish this morning.
I've got the Sony Ericsson MW600 and have not had any problems with it using WinAmp. In fact the audio quality on this is much better than I was getting on my HTC Sensation XE on full volume
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Any chance you could tell me if the CLI functionality worked with the Nexus 4 & MW600? Does it show the name or only the number?
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I've got the Sony Ericsson MW600 and have not had any problems with it using WinAmp. In fact the audio quality on this is much better than I was getting on my HTC Sensation XE on full volume
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I wanted to get some community feedback on the Bluetooth drivers for this phone.
I've noticed several times that my jawbone icon will "cut out" for 5 to 10 seconds periodically. Doesn't seem to happen at any consistent interval with no consistent trigger. I've tested the same headset with a nexus s, and a blackberry bold 9300. It works fine with the other 2 phones.
I've also seen my Nexus 4 exhibit the same behavior with my car stereo, a clarion CX 501. It acts like it's buffering a song, no audio, but it definitely isn't my network connection because it's doing it with local content and the song doesn't actually pick up where it left off, it clearly just keeps playing on the phone with no Bluetooth output.
It's probably worth noting that it doesn't actually lose the Bluetooth connection, it just stops transmitting out of nowhere. It still stays paired and connected.
Also mostly unrelated... It doesn't seem to hold a Wi-Fi connection very well when Bluetooth is active.
Anyone else seeing similar behavior?
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I wanted to get some community feedback on the Bluetooth drivers for this phone.
I've noticed several times that my jawbone icon will "cut out" for 5 to 10 seconds periodically. Doesn't seem to happen at any consistent interval with no consistent trigger. I've tested the same headset with a nexus s, and a blackberry bold 9300. It works fine with the other 2 phones.
I've also seen my Nexus 4 exhibit the same behavior with my car stereo, a clarion CX 501. It acts like it's buffering a song, no audio, but it definitely isn't my network connection because it's doing it with local content and the song doesn't actually pick up where it left off, it clearly just keeps playing on the phone with no Bluetooth output.
It's probably worth noting that it doesn't actually lose the Bluetooth connection, it just stops transmitting out of nowhere. It still stays paired and connected.
Also mostly unrelated... It doesn't seem to hold a Wi-Fi connection very well when Bluetooth is active.
Anyone else seeing similar behavior?
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works quite well for me on Stock. Are you using a custom ROM?
No issues here. CM 10.1 with Franco's kernel. Never had issues stock either. Using through Microsoft Sync in my car.
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I'm 100% stock. Wondering if it's related to hardware at all. I figured it was software based on the symptoms but if no one else can reproduce it I might start to pursue an RMA
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This device has better Bluetooth than stock gs3 and note 3 drivers. It always skips on Bluetooth while playing music with Samsung devices. While in this device, its flawless!
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I currently use a LG-HBS700 bluetooth headphones with the N4 and so far, it's been working great, I've noticed its not so much the bluetooth thats the problem, but certain podcast apps that have trouble responding to the bluetooth controls on my headphones. So far, connection has been really good, I used to get occasional dropped connections with these earphones when connected to my iPhone, but no such issues with the Nexus 4.
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This device has better Bluetooth than stock gs3 and note 3 drivers. It always skips on Bluetooth while playing music with Samsung devices. While in this device, its flawless!
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That's really interesting. Your experience was the opposite of mine. My nexus s was really great with Bluetooth.
I find it interesting that this was moved to the Q&A section... Just because I asked for impressions and people answered doesn't really mean it's a Q&A thread. Hopefully it'll still get enough traffic here to get accurate impressions.
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Stock, but rooted and unlocked. BT at first was not stable. Had to pair and unpair all my devices for it to stick. Only had to do that once and from that point bt have been stable. Using Parrot Neo Minikit speakerphone, also my jabra pro 9470 at work, and using the HTC Stereo clip to stream wirelessly via aux port. No issue now.
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Stock, but rooted and unlocked. BT at first was not stable. Had to pair and unpair all my devices for it to stick. Only had to do that once and from that point bt have been stable. Using Parrot Neo Minikit speakerphone, also my jabra pro 9470 at work, and using the HTC Stereo clip to stream wirelessly via aux port. No issue now.
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Thanks, I'll give it a shot after repairing
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http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=39633
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=39632
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http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=39633
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Thanks for digging those up! That's awesome. Hopefully there will be something in 4.2.2 that corrects this issue. You really brought some hope to me for this phone. Honestly bluetooth was the biggest complaint I had... I can live with the non SAMOLED screen and mediocre battery life... but the bluetooth has been driving me nuts!
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Whenever I use my phone in the car to stream music I have been getting horrible radio interference. I am in the Chicago area so I'm on 4g LTE, so I'm not sure if that could be causing it or if the phone is somehow defective. My old galaxy s2 (used that HSPA+ network) never had this problem unless it dropped down to EDGE, which was rare. I have tested it out on 2 cars so far and both do it really badly, to the point where its almost impossible to listen to music.
I am using a tape adapter (different ones in each car, both work fine) to play it through the stock headunit, and when I'm using headphones in the gym it works flawlessly, so I'm not sure what to think at this point. I have been searching around online since the phone came out to see if anyone else had this issue but I seem to be the only one I've found so far. Has anyone else had any similar issues with their s4 or 4g LTE? Could I possibly have a defective phone?
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Whenever I use my phone in the car to stream music I have been getting horrible radio interference. I am in the Chicago area so I'm on 4g LTE, so I'm not sure if that could be causing it or if the phone is somehow defective. My old galaxy s2 (used that HSPA+ network) never had this problem unless it dropped down to EDGE, which was rare. I have tested it out on 2 cars so far and both do it really badly, to the point where its almost impossible to listen to music.
I am using a tape adapter (different ones in each car, both work fine) to play it through the stock headunit, and when I'm using headphones in the gym it works flawlessly, so I'm not sure what to think at this point. I have been searching around online since the phone came out to see if anyone else had this issue but I seem to be the only one I've found so far. Has anyone else had any similar issues with their s4 or 4g LTE? Could I possibly have a defective phone?
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Ive used it in my car while on 4g lte but I dont have the tape adapter, I am also on long island...no interference here unless im maxed out which I almost never am
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I get this weird noise when I'm playing my music on my phone in my car but only sometimes
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M1nd64m3 said:
Whenever I use my phone in the car to stream music I have been getting horrible radio interference. I am in the Chicago area so I'm on 4g LTE, so I'm not sure if that could be causing it or if the phone is somehow defective. My old galaxy s2 (used that HSPA+ network) never had this problem unless it dropped down to EDGE, which was rare. I have tested it out on 2 cars so far and both do it really badly, to the point where its almost impossible to listen to music.
I am using a tape adapter (different ones in each car, both work fine) to play it through the stock headunit, and when I'm using headphones in the gym it works flawlessly, so I'm not sure what to think at this point. I have been searching around online since the phone came out to see if anyone else had this issue but I seem to be the only one I've found so far. Has anyone else had any similar issues with their s4 or 4g LTE? Could I possibly have a defective phone?
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Are you plugging the phone into the car charger as well? If so, Ive seen this problem before with some car/phone combos. Its a grounding issue.
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Are you plugging the phone into the car charger as well? If so, Ive seen this problem before with some car/phone combos. Its a grounding issue.
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It is not plugged into the car charger.
So I have found it happens less if I have it in the center console.
Would it be possible the phone is switching back and forth between edge and 4g while I'm moving? My battery stats show times where the mobile signal was dropped and it seems to coincide with when I'm in the car, but it still gives me the 4g LTE icon on the notification bar, I've never even seen it switch to anything besides that.
Hello,
I purchased one of the Woot refurbished Nexus 10's and just received a few days ago. It looked spanking brand new/never touched when taking out of the box. Was on 4.2 so OTA updated to 4.3, then 4.4. Not rooted.
One of the main reasons I purchased it was to stream netflix and amazon prime. I was able to get amazon prime working with Dolphin browser and the flash hack, but both constantly stop/lag when trying to stream a movie (amazon with message 'loading video', neflix with 'buffering').
I'm on wireless N network with 5 bars through the house on everything except for the Nexus, which only shows 2 bars. No issues streaming netflix/amazon through laptop or roku. Even when I take the N10 right next to the router where it will then move to 5 bars, I still can't stream successfully.
I've put the MAC address on high QOS, and also cleared the cache partition. Anyone have any other suggestions of what I could try? Or does this sound like a defective unit?
I appreciate your help!
Why don't you try using the apps. There's a Netflix app and an amazon app. You. Won't need any hacks to get them working and I use the Netflix one just fine on mine.
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abdel12345 said:
Why don't you try using the apps. There's a Netflix app and an amazon app. You. Won't need any hacks to get them working and I use the Netflix one just fine on mine.
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Hello,
I did download the Amazon tablet app but couldn't find where you could watch Amazon prime, only shop?
I am using the Netflix android app, and it constantly says buffering with streaming.
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Hello,
I purchased one of the Woot refurbished Nexus 10's and just received a few days ago.
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Well lucky you, I bought first day offer appeared and I still not got mine.
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It looked spanking brand new/never touched when taking out of the box. Was on 4.2 so OTA updated to 4.3, then 4.4. Not rooted.
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Good to know!
neemypeemy said:
One of the main reasons I purchased it was to stream netflix and amazon prime. I was able to get amazon prime working with Dolphin browser and the flash hack, but both constantly stop/lag when trying to stream a movie (amazon with message 'loading video', neflix with 'buffering').
I'm on wireless N network with 5 bars through the house on everything except for the Nexus, which only shows 2 bars. No issues streaming netflix/amazon through laptop or roku. Even when I take the N10 right next to the router where it will then move to 5 bars, I still can't stream successfully.
I've put the MAC address on high QOS, and also cleared the cache partition. Anyone have any other suggestions of what I could try? Or does this sound like a defective unit?
I appreciate your help!
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So I'd suggest three approaches:
Try initially a Wifi booster app. My N7 gets a weaker wifi than my N4, both in terms of bars and Mbit connection. I had to use a N7 Wifi booster. The one I tried was Internet Speed Master https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nezdroid.internetspeedmaster
Do a stock flash. WUGS to 4.4, to clear out any 4.2.2--->4.3--->4.4 sedimentary layers, assuming you're comfortable with flashing stock rather than OTA updates?
My N7 Wifi woes I had to tweak my router to finally fix, which I changed from "auto" band and auto channel width, to using the tablet's own Wifi, the Wifi analyser app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.farproc.wifi.analyzer , to find which band was least congested and then I manually made it that band and manually made it 20mhz, then my speed went up by a factor of 5 !
Collectively, I can't tell you which of all 3 ideas was the "killer" one but I tried all 3 and Hulu on my N7 got progressively better. The most intrusive of the above is the middle one, so try say 3 then say 1 then finally 2.
I'd also appreciate feedback on progress as if this is a problem with N10 I'll be in your same shoes middle of the week when Woot's chosen idiotic postal service finally delivers.
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Well lucky you, I bought first day offer appeared and I still not got mine.
Good to know!
So I'd suggest three approaches:
Try initially a Wifi booster app. My N7 gets a weaker wifi than my N4, both in terms of bars and Mbit connection. I had to use a N7 Wifi booster. The one I tried was Internet Speed Master https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nezdroid.internetspeedmaster
Do a stock flash. WUGS to 4.4, to clear out any 4.2.2--->4.3--->4.4 sedimentary layers, assuming you're comfortable with flashing stock rather than OTA updates?
My N7 Wifi woes I had to tweak my router to finally fix, which I changed from "auto" band and auto channel width, to using the tablet's own Wifi, the Wifi analyser app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.farproc.wifi.analyzer , to find which band was least congested and then I manually made it that band and manually made it 20mhz, then my speed went up by a factor of 5 !
Collectively, I can't tell you which of all 3 ideas was the "killer" one but I tried all 3 and Hulu on my N7 got progressively better. The most intrusive of the above is the middle one, so try say 3 then say 1 then finally 2.
I'd also appreciate feedback on progress as if this is a problem with N10 I'll be in your same shoes middle of the week when Woot's chosen idiotic postal service finally delivers.
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Yeah, I bought mine on 24th, was fretting because it was in shipping status for three days and then was delivered USPS Friday (I'm in FL). Saturday I received an email from Woot saying it was shipped....
I will try your suggestions and report back.
Thank you!
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Yeah, I bought mine on 24th, was fretting because it was in shipping status for three days and then was delivered USPS Friday (I'm in FL). Saturday I received an email from Woot saying it was shipped....
I will try your suggestions and report back.
Thank you!
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Ditto, ditto, not ditto, ditto, my email on Saturday showed a future Tuesday delivery. My unit is currently 20miles from house, apparently motionless for 3 days.
Thanks. My intention was immediately out-the-box flash to 4.4. KRT16S and root and then take it from there.
I'd also disable anything wireless on the N10 which isn't Wifi, to eliminate any interference inside your unit. I see from specs it has NFC so disable it and disable Bluetooth. If those last two ideas actually fix it then for sure your physical device has dud-ness but at least you got proof for a Woot return, or to negotiate for a credit if you can live with the problem.
Some of these refurbished units will have a legitimate reason for return, but as the original owner of your unit found, new units have issues too so I was game for a refurbished.
Good luck
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Ditto, ditto, not ditto, ditto, my email on Saturday showed a future Tuesday delivery. My unit is currently 20miles from house, apparently motionless for 3 days.
Thanks. My intention was immediately out-the-box flash to 4.4. KRT16S and root and then take it from there.
I'd also disable anything wireless on the N10 which isn't Wifi, to eliminate any interference inside your unit. I see from specs it has NFC so disable it and disable Bluetooth. If those last two ideas actually fix it then for sure your physical device has dud-ness but at least you got proof for a Woot return, or to negotiate for a credit if you can live with the problem.
Some of these refurbished units will have a legitimate reason for return, but as the original owner of your unit found, new units have issues too so I was game for a refurbished.
Good luck
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Ok, well tried all 3 and unfortunately nothing worked. The lagging now seems to be a litter better, but now the lips don't match the words in either netflix or amazon streaming, which is extremely annoying.. Also tried completely erasing after the direct flash to 4.4.
If anyone has anything else I could try I would greatly appreciate it..
Thank you,
Lynn
EDIT: So turned off the bluetooth as suggested above and lips sync now.... I want to listen with bluetooth headset, shouldn't this work??
Thanks
neemypeemy said:
Ok, well tried all 3 and unfortunately nothing worked. The lagging now seems to be a litter better, but now the lips don't match the words in either netflix or amazon streaming, which is extremely annoying.. Also tried completely erasing after the direct flash to 4.4.
If anyone has anything else I could try I would greatly appreciate it..
Thank you,
Lynn
EDIT: So turned off the bluetooth as suggested above and lips sync now.... I want to listen with bluetooth headset, shouldn't this work??
Thanks
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Saw on another xda thread someone got the sony dr-bt22s bt headphones to work on a note 10.01 without audio lag. I got these years ago and were in a box in the shed of old electronics to sell on ebay, so charging them up (3hrs), fingers crossed as the fresh install seems to have solved the loading/buffering issues so far.
Ok, I'm about ready to give up, bluetooth is off and just tested streaming again and the lip synching issue is same bluetooth on or off. No other streaming in the house, 5 bars everywhere except on the tablet.
If anyone has any ideas, please let me know, thanks!
Network bandwidth is more of a WiFi issue. Lip sync is more of an app issue.
You might have one or both. The fact you have lip sync issues implies to me an app issue (but you might still have WiFi issues also).
Try to eliminate it to Wifi performance by doing a more basic test like FTP off a LAN device. Compare to some other working performing well device.
FTP tends to more track WiFi performance as it is a simple light protocol. Don't do SFTP or SCP.
If you don't have a LAN device to copy off then at least try WAN test like a Internet bandwidth test because that at least shows your bandwidth off the Internet which matches your intended use of the N10. There are Android apps for bandwidth testing but whatever you compare to should be as similar as possible e.g. another well performing Android device.
Then those results will confirm it is WiFi or not root cause. If it is WiFi then sounds like you got a dud. If not WiFi then you have an app/Abdroid issue.
Did you do a FULL wipe and flash?
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nigelhealy said:
Network bandwidth is more of a WiFi issue. Lip sync is more of an app issue.
You might have one or both. The fact you have lip sync issues implies to me an app issue (but you might still have WiFi issues also).
Try to eliminate it to Wifi performance by doing a more basic test like FTP off a LAN device. Compare to some other working performing well device.
FTP tends to more track WiFi performance as it is a simple light protocol. Don't do SFTP or SCP.
If you don't have a LAN device to copy off then at least try WAN test like a Internet bandwidth test because that at least shows your bandwidth off the Internet which matches your intended use of the N10. There are Android apps for bandwidth testing but whatever you compare to should be as similar as possible e.g. another well performing Android device.
Then those results will confirm it is WiFi or not root cause. If it is WiFi then sounds like you got a dud. If not WiFi then you have an app/Abdroid issue.
Did you do a FULL wipe and flash?
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Hi,
Yes, I did a full wipe and fresh 4.4 install with wugfresh nrt. I do have a samsung galaxy s4 phone so will try speedtest from both to compare, thank you for the reply and suggestion!
android speedtest.net results..
Nexus 10 (4.4): Download 14.65, upload 2.37
Galaxy S4 (4.3): Download 17.21, upload 2.96
Has anyone seen issues with Netflix or Amazon Instant after 4.4 update?
neemypeemy said:
android speedtest.net results..
Nexus 10 (4.4): Download 14.65, upload 2.37
Galaxy S4 (4.3): Download 17.21, upload 2.96
Has anyone seen issues with Netflix or Amazon Instant after 4.4 update?
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Right so the N10 is getting pretty much the same raw bandwidth.
It might be worth doing these tests 3-5 times and average. N10 is slower but not enough to account for a major streaming issue.
I am sorry but I can't help you further but I'd say you have confirmed it is not really your N10 specific unit wifi fault so go ask your 4.4 and app questions in a more frequently accessed forum. There is about 5% of the postings in this forum than others due to few N10s sold.
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nigelhealy said:
Right so the N10 is getting pretty much the same raw bandwidth.
It might be worth doing these tests 3-5 times and average. N10 is slower but not enough to account for a major streaming issue.
I am sorry but I can't help you further but I'd say you have confirmed it is not really your N10 specific unit wifi fault so go ask your 4.4 and app questions in a more frequently accessed forum. There is about 5% of the postings in this forum than others due to few N10s sold.
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ok, thanks for your help!
turn off "Wifi optimization" ?
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I am sorry but I can't help you further ....
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Random stab at a possible clue? http://www.pocketables.com/2013/10/...ing-trouble-using-certain-apps-over-wifi.html
I tried it on my N7 which also suffers relatively poor Wifi, it seemed to nudge up a LAN FTP speed up by an average of 25% but such is highly erratic I'd have to download like 10GB with it on/off before I could form a conclusion..... (I might do that... but it will take a few hours....)
I'll give it a try, thanks! Seems to be doing much better after the straight 4.4 install rather than the updates from 4.2..
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neemypeemy said:
I'll give it a try, thanks! Seems to be doing much better after the straight 4.4 install rather than the updates from 4.2..
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My N10 is the fastest thing on my LAN, 5 bars and 130Mbit speed, but it's actual file-transfer speed is the same about 4MB/s. If I plug the harddrive directly in I get 20Mb/s. I know to ignore what the bars reads as they are arbitrarily set by the vendor.
It is worrying that we seem to need to flash stock to overwrite and start from scratch to get performance. I can theorise what is causing the problems but I don't know. My guess is they are not fully testing upgrades and they're doing say stock, upgrade, test, not stock, install loads of apps, upgrade, test.
I learned over 20 years to do periodic fresh installs with Windows, and even Linux, I'm overdue to a stock Ubuntu install. There is a creeping slowness which accumulates and install/deinstall don't put it back exactly as-is. Android 4.4, I was playing with NTFS read/write and in terminal looking at modules and files, and I installed an NTFS app and deinstalled it but left a change in the filesystem over-writing a newer file with an older file and not undoing it in de-install. So imagine that crappy coding over an entire OS?
Also, my only lagginess was in background file copies making interactive use really slow, it happened in two totally different 4.2.2. devices and went away with 4.4 stock fresh install, that implies they have tweaked the underlying filesystem, or how caching is done. A filesystem is not something you can upgrade in-situ, well not easily.
I spent 2 days benchmarking 4.2.2---OTA----4.3----OTA----4.4 vs stock 4.3 and stock 4.4 and the performance gain is real, both Wifi speed, file transfer speed. Stability doesn't seem affected though. I'll also now work out the minimum apps I need and just keep total apps to minimum, as installing/removing is not perfect.