Microsoft Announces New Mice and Keyboards Designed for Windows 8 - Windows 8 General

Today Microsoft showed off "five" new devices that will play nice with Windows 8.
1. The Wedge Touch Mouse
2. The Wedge Mobile Keyboard
3. The Sculpt Touch Mouse
4. The Sculpt Mobile Keyboard
5. Touch Mouse (Updated support for gestures in Windows 8)
Follow the links below to see some images of the devices.
http://www.gowindowsgo.com/2012/07/30/microsoft-announces-new-peripherals-for-windows-8/
Right now, the Wedge looks appealing. I can't make a final judgement till I've actually touch it and played with it. It might be uncomfortable, but it sure does look cool. Can't wait to try it.

aha! looks like they match the surface, hmm, so we DO STILL NEED keyboards and mice after all. hmmmm interesting.

ohgood said:
aha! looks like they match the surface, hmm, so we DO STILL NEED keyboards and mice after all. hmmmm interesting.
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No, you don't "need" a mouse or keyboard. Folks who only use tablets for consumption won't "need" them. However, students and business professionals may want to bring the keyboard along for the ride - in case they need to actually get work done. It's not impossible to write a history essay on a touchscreen, just not very practical.

samsabri said:
No, you don't "need" a mouse or keyboard. Folks who only use tablets for consumption won't "need" them. However, students and business professionals may want to bring the keyboard along for the ride - in case they need to actually get work done. It's not impossible to write a history essay on a touchscreen, just not very practical.
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throwing darts at a touch screen works too, but alas, its kind of expensive to replace a tablet for each letter.
darts ain't cheap either.
agreed, not a "need"

Dont like it
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HTC patent for Capacitive screen stylus....

Found this interesting item on pocketnow.com Htc seem to be working on a stylus for capacitive screens. Should be interesting
http://pocketnow.com/tech-news/htc-brings-stylus-accuracy-to-capacitive-touchscreen-in-new-patent
old news.....
Question is if some support must not be built in the device. There is no public working prototype, and no one said it could work with existing displays. So don't hope too much ..
Old news alright, I was hoping this device would ship with the stylus, now hoping its available to purchase separately at some stage (SCUMMVM benefits from this, as do a few other things, not needed at all for usual use of the handset).
NZtechfreak said:
Old news alright, I was hoping this device would ship with the stylus, now hoping its available to purchase separately at some stage (SCUMMVM benefits from this, as do a few other things, not needed at all for usual use of the handset).
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where are you planning to stick the stylus in?
There is no hole in the HD2 so it's useless..
Xeon said:
where are you planning to stick the stylus in?
There is no hole in the HD2 so it's useless..
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ah ok, if your phone doesnt have a hole for the stylus, your keyring, pens, wallet and similar, you can't carry one with you.
I've been waiting for it ever since i first read about it..
come on..
You can already get a stylus for a capacitive screen, the HTC one might be nicer - who knows. Some have inbuilt pens etc.
The HTC one is much nicer, it looks like an ordinary stylus with a pointy tip. The existing ones have big fat heads, which kinda defeats the purpose of having a stylus in the first place...
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defeats the purpose of having a stylus in the first place...
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absolutely!!!!!!!! what's the point? :S gimme the pointy ones
NZtechfreak said:
The HTC one is much nicer, it looks like an ordinary stylus with a pointy tip. The existing ones have big fat heads, which kinda defeats the purpose of having a stylus in the first place...
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I agree, I like the HTC version the best, however, until they come out you really only have two options...
1. Get over having a stylus (not realistic for some)
2. Buy the current versions and at least have a working solution until the HTC ones area available.
I'm in the camp that don't need a stylus, I'd just like to have one for the occasional use, so I'm happy to wait until HTC release theirs (or someone else comes up with a palatable alternative).
Nighthawk said:
I agree, I like the HTC version the best, however, until they come out you really only have two options...
1. Get over having a stylus (not realistic for some)
2. Buy the current versions and at least have a working solution until the HTC ones area available.
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3. Don't buy an HD2 in the first place. It's not the law that you have to.
I ordered a Pogo stylus with a soft tip and big head only for use when I go out with gloves... I would love a pointy tip one though so that I can run through some WM app's menus a lot easier.... I suspect the little scroll bars that pop up during some app settings changes are going to be hard to do without one
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If a capacitive screen designed for finger-only use was a good idea, there would be no market for a capacitive stylus.
If the HTC stylus works well and is affordable, I have to wonder why it's not already on the market
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You can already get a stylus for a capacitive screen, the HTC one might be nicer - who knows. Some have inbuilt pens etc.
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agreed x2! have you seen the ones on eBay? the tips are as big as your finger tip!!
mr_Ray said:
3. Don't buy an HD2 in the first place. It's not the law that you have to.
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From a work perspective it is.
eskasi said:
I ordered a Pogo stylus with a soft tip and big head only for use when I go out with gloves...
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Hmm, will that work? I'd assumed that a capacitive stylus works by establishing an electrical connection between the screen and your skin. If so then it won't work unless your skin is in direct contact with the stylus - so even a conductive stylus won't work if you're wearing gloves.
According to the report, the stylus will replace the electrical connection with the skin with some sort of magnet. If it was that easy...
I wonder if it would work if one were to dissect off a square centimetre of skin and glue it to the tip of one of the old fashined styluses...?
Cmon guys,
i have both HD and HD2 and i used the stylus on HD for less 5% of the time (never for writing). Now with HD2 i don`t even think to stylus.
I have over 100Kg so my hands were not very slim

Stylus for A500?

Has anyone done testing with a stylus for the A500? If so, what were your thoughts?
I'd like something I can use to either draw quick sketches for photo ideas, or something I can use to jot a quick note here and there (of course, I'd probably need an app that supports handwriting, but those may come in time).
I purchased a Targus stylus today. Having come from the old pre-capacitive days when the stylus is hard, the new stylus' seemed a little odd but I must say the control is very good. Pin point accuracy - excellent for drawing.
Leechazoid said:
I purchased a Targus stylus today. Having come from the old pre-capacitive days when the stylus is hard, the new stylus' seemed a little odd but I must say the control is very good. Pin point accuracy - excellent for drawing.
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+1
I also got the Targus stylus a week or so ago; and it does works well.. I saw another stylus somewhere online that is supposed to give you even finer control and allow you to actually see exactly where the stylus is touching the screen, but now I can't find where I saw it. I'm thinking about giving the new one a shot too, if I can find it again. ;-)
JackMetal said:
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I also got the Targus stylus a week or so ago; and it does works well.. I saw another stylus somewhere online that is supposed to give you even finer control and allow you to actually see exactly where the stylus is touching the screen, but now I can't find where I saw it. I'm thinking about giving the new one a shot too, if I can find it again. ;-)
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I think you're referring to this one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/DAGi-Stylus-P10...?pt=US_Tablet_Accessories&hash=item41582701ff
I have one and it works very well in general. The only issue is getting it at the right angle with the screen - particularly if you have the screen at an angle. But I like it better than the rubber tipped ones.
I bought the Boxwave stylus. I like it a lot. However it doesn't always catch it, sometimes it clicks on a screen I don't want or am scrolling through. But other than that, I am very happy with it for detailed work. My fingers get sweaty on occasion and I have a hard time using the screen when they are like that. So the stylus is a nice addition to have, especially if you don't like fingerprints.
I do wonder if it will somehow mess up the screen though later on.
Just curious, is there any way to get hand writing recognition to work? So for instance, if I bought one of these stylus's, would I be able to use it and forgo the need for an on screen keyboard?
saeba said:
I think you're referring to this one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/DAGi-Stylus-P10...?pt=US_Tablet_Accessories&hash=item41582701ff
I have one and it works very well in general. The only issue is getting it at the right angle with the screen - particularly if you have the screen at an angle. But I like it better than the rubber tipped ones.
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Thanks. Yep, that's the one; I couldn't remember it's name at all.
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Just curious, is there any way to get hand writing recognition to work? So for instance, if I bought one of these stylus's, would I be able to use it and forgo the need for an on screen keyboard?
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I'm using flexT9 app which has peninput, but its not perfect, the capacitive stylus is more like big stick then a pen
Can anyone recommend a stylus that's got more of a penpoint tip rather than something the size of a finger?
With a capacitive screen I don't think something like this exists. Although I was in a meeting today with somebody taking notes on an I pad, not sure how they were doing that.
I own this stylus and I really like it. This is the only stylus I have used so I cannot compare it to anything.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004BSF1I8
propagandax said:
With a capacitive screen I don't think something like this exists. Although I was in a meeting today with somebody taking notes on an I pad, not sure how they were doing that.
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I got word yesterday that Acer is releasing one specifically for the A500. I will get more information and keep everyone posted.
I'm getting behind on everything as I had to go out of town for a few days on a business trip. Also, prototype custom Iconia case ships to me today for a review and should be available stateside after the 26th. It's similar to the FUSE.
I also use a Targus stylus for iPad as it was called.
Has a soft rubber tip, but works great on my device.
I have a griffin made for the Ipad but works on all my Android touch screens
drawing
This looks like a great one. I also found a video on you tube how to make one out of a pin and allum Fool
Going to try the DIY thing as it looks super accurate. If fails I'll be buying this one
http://cgi.ebay.com/oStylus-Capacit...?pt=US_Tablet_Accessories&hash=item4aab617685
propagandax said:
With a capacitive screen I don't think something like this exists. Although I was in a meeting today with somebody taking notes on an I pad, not sure how they were doing that.
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Youtube dagi stylus and you will see magic
my gf works at best buy and she got me the Rocketfish (best buy brand) stylus for 2 bucks lol. it works great with the iconia and ipads.
stylus
I picked up the targus stylus from staples.its kinda OK.
But I do enjoy my hair stylists She rocks.geeky girls can look hot as well.giggles
Has anyone found an app that allows taking handwritten notes? Everything I have tested is really laggy for note taking.
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Has anyone found an app that allows taking handwritten notes? Everything I have tested is really laggy for note taking.
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Nah - all I've found are really crappy too.

What Bluetooth Keyboard Folios/Cases work with Acer Iconia A500?

So I have one of the USB keyboards and it works great, but takes up the port. There can be found here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1175316
I am honestly happy with that one BUT
1) I am wondering if there is a bluetooth keyboard folio/case yet for the Iconia Tab so the port is not taken
2) If there is an Acer branded keyboard so all of the keys will work with the specific tablet
3) do the Apple and Xoom bluetooth keyboard folio/case work with the Acer?
month later - anything?
thought I would bump this thread. Is there ANY Bluetooth keyboard folios / cases that works with the Acer yet???
I don't think that the xoom bluetooth shouldn't have any problems, because it's both Android and bluetooth.
I wouldn't buy apple's keyboard before you can go into a store and ask if you can try it (because it can have a security handshake with other apple hardware)
I'm looking for a case that can hold a keyboard and tablet in one, but havn't found one for the Acer just yes (if you find one, let me know)
Xoom keyboard does work and there is a keyboard that Acer makes, just google it .
But I haven't seen any bluetooth cases yet.
Here is one I am considering: http://amzn.to/xJLQIO
Reviews on it are a little hard to go by, since the only reviewers so far are Xoom or Thrive users, and I'm not sure how the dimensions compare.
The mounting solution is rather interesting. It comes with 2 different sizes of rubber pieces that slide over the corners of the tablet, then Velcro to the inside of the folio. With our tablets being a bit on the heavy side, I'm not sure how well or long that would hold.
One thing I like about this one over the USB one mentioned in the OP (aside from it leaving the port open) is that this is a free standing case that looks like it could sit on your lap fairly easy, whereas the other one has that narrow easel stand which requires that it sit on a flat surface.
I'm still torn between them. If I had the cash, I'd just buy them both and return the one I don't like but that's not really an option, so I'll just hope someone else on here has tried this case.
There is an acer A500 specific keyboard. I use it and it works well. It has quick access keys for swapping apps and such straight from the keyboard. Not sure about a folio case though. I just use a laptop sleeve to carry everything and a hipstreet tablet stand to keep the tablet up.
I use a BT keyboard designed for the HP Touchpad and it works great
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Check out eBay, they have some nice folio cases, pretty cheap too
DerTeufel said:
I use a BT keyboard designed for the HP Touchpad and it works great
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which one and does it hold the acer in safely?
hardslog said:
There is an acer A500 specific keyboard. I use it and it works well. It has quick access keys for swapping apps and such straight from the keyboard. Not sure about a folio case though. I just use a laptop sleeve to carry everything and a hipstreet tablet stand to keep the tablet up.
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Thanks for the info - can you please provide some links to the keyboard you like and use and the sleeve, etc. Thanks!
abrigham said:
Here is one I am considering: http://amzn.to/xJLQIO
Reviews on it are a little hard to go by, since the only reviewers so far are Xoom or Thrive users, and I'm not sure how the dimensions compare.
The mounting solution is rather interesting. It comes with 2 different sizes of rubber pieces that slide over the corners of the tablet, then Velcro to the inside of the folio. With our tablets being a bit on the heavy side, I'm not sure how well or long that would hold.
One thing I like about this one over the USB one mentioned in the OP (aside from it leaving the port open) is that this is a free standing case that looks like it could sit on your lap fairly easy, whereas the other one has that narrow easel stand which requires that it sit on a flat surface.
I'm still torn between them. If I had the cash, I'd just buy them both and return the one I don't like but that's not really an option, so I'll just hope someone else on here has tried this case.
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did you ever buy this one. I am looking at it now also. Thanks!
Likewise, I would like to know if this worked with the A500
ex-egll said:
Likewise, I would like to know if this worked with the A500
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I bought the Kensington and it is GREAT. It is the only case i use with my Acer now. The keyboard is really nice, no lag and the entire thing is first class.
this is the best android-buttoned keyboard (IMHO) that i have found. probably gonna get it when i have some leftover cash. has anyone here tried it with our tab?
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Tablet-Bluetooth-Keyboard-SGPWKB1/dp/B005G2HSSY
mtmerrick said:
this is the best android-buttoned keyboard (IMHO) that i have found. probably gonna get it when i have some leftover cash. has anyone here tried it with our tab?
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Tablet-Bluetooth-Keyboard-SGPWKB1/dp/B005G2HSSY
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The keyboard in the Kensington FOLIO KEYBOARD CASE is almost exactly the same as that sony one, and you get the full case/cover.
The wireless keyboard in the Kensington folio is just about the best wireless keyboard I have purchased to date, and you get the case with it. Can use with or without the case.
well, i'm not really into the folios, and the kingston doesn't seem to have the android specific keys like the sony....
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well, i'm not really into the folios, and the kingston doesn't seem to have the android specific keys like the sony....
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what do you mean? all of the keys work with Android perfectly??
if you look at the one i linked to, it has dedicated keys for back, home, multitask, menu, and search. the "android buttons".
the picture quality of the kingston wasn't that great but it didn't look like it had the dedicated android keys to me...
mtmerrick said:
if you look at the one i linked to, it has dedicated keys for back, home, multitask, menu, and search. the "android buttons".
the picture quality of the kingston wasn't that great but it didn't look like it had the dedicated android keys to me...
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the Kensignton one is NOT a cheap overseas one - it is much nicer
Check out this page on their website for info, videos, etc -
http://www.kensington.com/kensingto...niversal-bt-keyboard-case-for-10-tablets.aspx
This is their brand new one that looks amazing -
http://www.kensington.com/kensingto...pert-folio-keyboard-for-android®-tablets.aspx
I DID NOT buy direct from them as I found them much cheaper elsewhere
i said PICTURE quality was not that great. kingston is a good brand, i've bought their products before.
perhaps you could take a picture of your kingston's keyboard so we can see what the key layout is? i can't find a good pic online.

Stylus or no stylus???

What do you guys think? Is there a good use for it? Do you use it? What are your thoughts in general.
i use a stylus once in a while, but its not what i expected originally. I had played with the digitizer stylus on the htc flyer earlier, and that was such a fantastic stylus experience, i thought i would be able to have that same level of detail, but apparently it doesnt work that way on other tablets, htc flyer has a special digitizer layer on top of the capacitive screen, that makes input form the special digitizer pen more accurate, like i can literally write chicken scratch on that thing and it is perfectly legible.
but on regular capacitive screens, the best stylus wont do much more than what your finger does. If you want to use the stylus just for swiping, and moving stuff, then it's okay i suppose, especially when its cold. But its not a handwriting replacement, or even a decent sketching tool, just a finger replacement. Regular styluses have this weird squishy foam tip also, that annoys me.
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i use a stylus once in a while, but its not what i expected originally.
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This.
I have the Samsung stylus and use it all the time. To me, it's a tad more precise than my finger and it keeps the screen clean of finger prints. The only app it seems to work better than average in is the Asus notes app that's available in the dev section. Even then, it's for quick notes and phone numbers not actual writing.
I'm using one now. The biggest advantage for me is when entering text. My wife asked for one. I grabed one at Walmart, tried it out and had to get one for myself. I like it.
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Yep I agree with everyone above. I purchased the Jot stylus which is supposed to be one of the better ones and it was just bleh. I wanted to use my Tab for note taking and stuff and it just won't register cleanly especially if you're trying to write 'normally'. For drawing and bigger letters it's fine, but anything smaller, forget it.
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Yep I agree with everyone above. I purchased the Jot stylus which is supposed to be one of the better ones and it was just bleh. I wanted to use my Tab for note taking and stuff and it just won't register cleanly especially if you're trying to write 'normally'. For drawing and bigger letters it's fine, but anything smaller, forget it.
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There's an app for that. Touchscreentune in the dev section. It helps a great deal, though it doesn't make the Tab perfect. One caveat... You need to be rooted to use it.

What I would give for this keyboard on this device

I am testing a MS Surface Pro 3 at the moment. What a great keyboard. I wish Samsung or anyone would create a Keyboard Touchpad combination. There is a lot to like about the Surface but I prefer the Note for Note taking. If it just had a slim keyboard with a trackpad I would never need my MacBook Air...
Just wishful thinking.
Earthdog said:
I am testing a MS Surface Pro 3 at the moment. What a great keyboard. I wish Samsung or anyone would create a Keyboard Touchpad combination. There is a lot to like about the Surface but I prefer the Note for Note taking. If it just had a slim keyboard with a trackpad I would never need my MacBook Air...
Just wishful thinking.
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That would be cool, but the Surface 3 is a very different critter than the Note Pro... I really like the Logitech keyboard (alas, no touchpad ) and it has turned my NP 12.2 into a serious enough productivity tool for me to retire my laptop. If you haven't tried it, give it a shot, it might be enough to not miss the touchpad.
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I am testing a MS Surface Pro 3 at the moment. What a great keyboard. I wish Samsung or anyone would create a Keyboard Touchpad combination. There is a lot to like about the Surface but I prefer the Note for Note taking. If it just had a slim keyboard with a trackpad I would never need my MacBook Air...
Just wishful thinking.
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Doesn't the touchscreen eliminate the need for a touch pad?
mdcarter67 said:
Doesn't the touchscreen eliminate the need for a touch pad?
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Yes it does but with a keyboard attached it is more fluid to usa a touchpad while you are typing rather than reaching up to touch the screen. If this wasn't the case then we wouldn't see touchpads on 99% of all Windows 8 touch screen laptops/tablets as they would just skip the touchpad to make the keyboard a little more roomy.
Yeah, a good keyboard dock would do wonders for the productivity side of things. The Logitech one is probably the best, but it's still limited. Only one angle, bulky, adds noticable weight, etc. I liked the SP3 way better in that regards. I suppose you get what you pay for.
But if you stick with usual tablet functions (i.e. media consumption) and don't try to do any serious or heavy productivity tasks, the GNP 12 isn't bad at all.
mdcarter67 said:
Doesn't the touchscreen eliminate the need for a touch pad?
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I find it much more efficient to keep my hands in one spot. The SGN 12.2 with Hankok Office is very close to make this a true office device.
I was considering getting a keyboard case when i ordered the Note Pro, but then it arrived and i used it... the full size on screen keyboard in landscape mode works just as well as a physical keyboard..... im glad i didnt blow another $100 on a keyboard case
I know what you mean. I like the keyboard on the surface pro. Though I like the logitech keyboard for galaxy note. However I started to notice something. Never am out and about and think to my self I really need todo some serious typing where I need the keyboard. Every time I have come across a need for a keyboard I have been at a desk where I can setup keyboard/ mouse etc.
My point here is I have never felt the need to have a key board with me, if im out and need to jot something down, I write with the spen, or use the handwrite to text. Not once has that failed me. I quite enjoy it.
So at home if im writting a paper for class or work. I use my old mac bluetooth magic mouse and keyboard. Works like a charm. :good:
Coming from an Asus Transformer, I do occasionally miss my solid adjustable keyboard dock with touchpad, full-usb and SD slot. (see why I'm not impressed with the one on the Surface?)
Bought myself a Logitech K810 keyboard, M705 mouse (over USB OTG) and a Belkin Flipblade Adjust. More stuff, but more flexibility. What's one more thing in a 15" bag?
You can use USB OTG with the Logitech Nano receivers, by the way. There are a few Logitech semi-full keyboards with touchpad that work over Nano Recievers.
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