Does Google Wallet need wifi? - Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

This thought just occured to me. If i go to a store or im in a cab and use the nfc, i know it will pick it up, but doesnt it need internet to communicate to google servers in order to do the transfer? its a wifi only device and yes i know you can tether, but just seems weird.

I don't have personal experience in this matter but I have read you only need wifi to setup the Wallet. Once the setup is complete, you can use it without wifi.

Unless I am mistaken it stores the information that would be normally stored on a physical card on your device so that it doesn't need a connection. When you go to make a purchase it then uses the nfc to transmit the data in someway, "swiping" the card.
But I'm not exactly sure. It makes the most sense to do it that way though.
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the few times i have used wallet on my phone it seems to go out on the network to update the balance. I assume it works like a credit card though and the machine you tap your phone to does the credit check to the account so i would guess is not necessary. I'd try it Monday but I'll probably forget. We have vending machines at work with paypass terminals.

Hello!
After confirming from google, the Wallet app doesn't need WiFi or any data connection to pay at a paypass location since all it does is send card info over NFC. However, it does need wifi to update your balance and transaction list.

Used it today at cvs, does not need wifi
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Use as just Wifi device in US

Live in the US and would just like to use as a tablet and not phone. Do you have to activate the phone portion or can you just use as a tablet Wifi device?
Thx
Jim
If you have no intentions on using it as a phone, why dont you check out the samsung player 5.
I know its not the same but just a suggestion. Unless you got money to blow, then yes you can use just about any android device without activating the phone portion.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/16/samsung-galaxy-player-4-and-5-hit-the-us-this-spring/
My job supplies a blackberry for work and my primary phone. So my Note is a pocket tablet with cell connectivity for data on a tablet plan.
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CGI_Ram said:
My job supplies a blackberry for work and my primary phone. So my Note is a pocket tablet with cell connectivity for data on a tablet plan.
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I plan to be doing basically the same thing. But I plan on using a SIM card from a iPad to use data only. That way with google voice and groove ip I can basically still use it as a complete phone, with only paying data.
You do not have to activate a unlocked phone in order to use it as just a device.
There is no problem using the note as a tablet. I wanted a small tablet and was going to get the 7 inch galaxy tab but decided to pickup the note instead. No regrets. I have not yet tried to use my iPad Sim card with it. I am using the galaxy nexus as my phone right now and love ics but it will be more awesome on the galaxy note.
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Spartan2x said:
I plan to be doing basically the same thing. But I plan on using a SIM card from a iPad to use data only. That way with google voice and groove ip I can basically still use it as a complete phone, with only paying data.
You do not have to activate a unlocked phone in order to use it as just a device.
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Would this even work? I am pretty sure Google Voice uses voice lines for calls. I know using GV for text would work, I plan on doing this instead of paying $20 a month. Currently GV does not support MMS, but they have said they are working on it. I can wait a few months for that if needed.
I looked into Groove IP and found this... I would hate to LOSE my gmail account.
This is a possible TOS violation! Don't use this app less you risk getting your account suspended!
The same thing happened with GVXMPP (a 3rd party service Lifehacker also reviewed) -- as soon as it got popular Google got pissed and started locking people out of their accounts (not just Voice, but ALL Google services associated with their login). It happened to me personally and sucked.
Section 5.3 of Google's TOS:
"You agree not to access (or attempt to access) any of the Services by any means other than through the interface that is provided by Google, unless you have been specifically allowed to do so in a separate agreement with Google"
I doubt the developer has gotten approval from Google... You have been warned!!
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Pops_G said:
Would this even work? I am pretty sure Google Voice uses voice lines for calls. I know using GV for text would work, I plan on doing this instead of paying $20 a month. Currently GV does not support MMS, but they have said they are working on it. I can wait a few months for that if needed.
I looked into Groove IP and found this... I would hate to LOSE my gmail account.
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Skype and What'sapp FTW.
Using the Note with no sim card in it resulted in huge battery drain for me (and an annoying icon in the task bar).
But putting it in airplane mode and THEN enabling wifi solved the battery drain. However that needs to be done after each reboot. Also you can't use Bluetooth when it's in airplane mode.
tikiroom32 said:
Live in the US and would just like to use as a tablet and not phone. Do you have to activate the phone portion or can you just use as a tablet Wifi device?
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You can enable flight mode on the Note which disables the 3G and wifi radios. Wifi can then be enabled seperately. Your cellular radio can remain off.
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Pops_G said:
Would this even work? I am pretty sure Google Voice uses voice lines for calls. I know using GV for text would work, I plan on doing this instead of paying $20 a month. Currently GV does not support MMS, but they have said they are working on it. I can wait a few months for that if needed.
I looked into Groove IP and found this... I would hate to LOSE my gmail account.
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Interesting, I have been using talkatone on my iPhone for over a year now...no issues yet. It does the same thing.

Kindle 2 3G sim+cardock= awesome car enhancement?

I have a very odd set of questions to accomplish a very specific thing.
The atrix 4G was the best smartphone to use when driving, The simple mount with the unified power/audio cable, the interface, so I want to make it a permanent carphone for navigation and music.
so my roommate that I drive around with went with this idea and threw in his kindle 2 sim card to use, but there are 2 problems, but only one of them needs to be solved.
A. no data, I get signal, it recognizes the signal strength and carrier, but it can transfer any data, I believe it is a problem with the APN but after hours of researching and tweaking, I got no progress.
B. offline navigation. The sim will give me a GPS location, which is awesome, but while I can download maps of the area in google maps I cannot use navigation without a web connection. I would prefer to use the native app but that's just me being reluctant to trying new apps, so if I have to use a 3rd party app I can.
I don't really expect the kindle 2 sim to work for obvious reasons, even if I did get it to do data I would use it very lightly.
Another option is some kinda way to switch between 2 AT&T sims on my "unlimited" data account, as physically switching them will be a pain.
3rd option is a some kinda cheapo AT&T/T-Mobile quarter gig $10/mo plan.
At this point I am just tossing around ideas, and need some help steering and executing this project.
I'd be shocked if whatever network that Amazon uses for their kindles doesnt check the IMEI number of the phone to ensure its actually a kindle for this very reason. You're going to have to look at some other carrier for your needs. I'd avoid T-Mobile since the Atrix does not support their 3G bands at this time (they may in the future to support unlocked iphones, but I wouldnt count on it).
Amazon is probably using it's own proxy server for mobile data, and even if you managed to configure your phone to use it most likely Amazon will ban your sim card very soon.
I think the best solution is to set up your regular phone with unlimited data as wi-fi hotspot and use this wi-fi connection from Atrix mounted in car.
I agree with tananaev. I have read about countless people getting their kindle banned because they tried to tether it. Setting up a hotspot in your car from primary phone would be best. Just remember someone might try to break your window to steal your phone. I personally use line in with PowerAmp. Turns off when unplugged, turns on when plugged. Simple.
Data is not important for a 'car stereo'. With the atrix, you have roughly 10gb of space for music/videos and microSD are really cheap if you need more. Also, consider trying Navfree from the market. It uses openstreetmaps.org and is completely free and offline.
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Where is the NFC chip?

I just tried to pay with my nexus 7 and felt like an idiot because I didn't know where to tap it.
Also anyone know a relatively inexpensive way to trade my 16gb version for the 3g version.
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I bought a couple of meals at McDonalds to use the $10 credit using NFC with Wallet. I touched the top, back of the N7 to the sensor and a receipt spit out. The second time I had to tap it a couple of times to get it to take. Just remember to open Wallet first and choose your payment method, i.e., Google credit or debit or credit card. I think the Google credit is no longer available.
The NFC antenna is on the back of the case. It's a rectangular "frame" with the NEXUS on the case at the bottom of the "picture" and the top about one inch above NEXUS.
I never used a device with a NFC. In order to pay by NFC using Google wallet. Do you need a active internet connection?
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I never used a device with a NFC. In order to pay by NFC using Google wallet. Do you need a active internet connection?
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Once I got Wallet set up back in Sept or Oct and got my debit/credit cards entered and had my Google Wallet credit available I found I did not need an active internet connection to use NFC to pay with Wallet. Now that the credit has expired (I think) I just make sure one of my cards is selected as the payment type. So, if you go to pay for something with Wallet/NFC, all you have to do is open Wallet, enter your pin, make sure your desired card is selected, and tap the reader. It just works without an active connection. The transaction is authorized at the terminal and the selected card is subsequently charged later behind the scenes. So, I repeat, no active internet connection is required if you have previously set up Wallet.
Thanks for the answer.
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Exactly. The NFC just transfers your card number to the machine like when you swipe your card. Then the machine uses the internet to verify and charge.
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NFC direction transfer without data connection

Hey guys, I have a Nexus 7 and a Galaxy s3. I found a car mount of my N7 and use the precached google maps on it while i drive, it's really cool!
Now, I deliver a lot, and use my s3 to get directions and want to use NFC to transfer the directions to my n7. I place the phone to the back of the tablet, tap on my phone and boom, my tablet says "getting directions". However, my n7 isn't connected to the internet, so it sits at getting directions...
I do no want to tether because...we'll AT&T is a *****.
Any way, since i already got the directions on my s3, when i use NFC to transfer it, the n7 wont look for directions and automatically get it from my s3?
Guess not
bigdog_nick said:
Hey guys, I have a Nexus 7 and a Galaxy s3. I found a car mount of my N7 and use the precached google maps on it while i drive, it's really cool!
Now, I deliver a lot, and use my s3 to get directions and want to use NFC to transfer the directions to my n7. I place the phone to the back of the tablet, tap on my phone and boom, my tablet says "getting directions". However, my n7 isn't connected to the internet, so it sits at getting directions...
I do no want to tether because...we'll AT&T is a *****.
Any way, since i already got the directions on my s3, when i use NFC to transfer it, the n7 wont look for directions and automatically get it from my s3?
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Not exactly sure if this is possible, but an (offline) maps app with NFC implementation would be pretty cool.. Are you sure there's no way to send it via Bluetooth? (I.e. another app that has this functionality built in) If not, I'm sorry but I'm out of ideas :/ You could try another offline maps app maybe? (Make sure it has NFC built in)
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You could tether... there's no reason not to, especially small amounts.
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[Q] t-mobile blocks tethering, forwards to their hotspot webpage

Hello guys,
I have a rooted Nexus 4 (CM10.1) and I've been tethering happily for months. Recently I started working from a favorite coffee place that doesn't have WiFi, so I tether there regularly, and today suddenly I was forward to t-mobiles mobile hotspot webpage. No page loaded anymore, everything is blocked, they want me to pay for their mobile hotspot.
I downloaded Android WiFi and followed the instructions here: http://highonandroid.com/android-ap...android-smartphone-or-tablet-universal-guide/. I know that if I spoof my MAC address I might have a chance to tether, but my chromebook doesn't seem to be able to pick up the network. I had this issue before and fixed it with my Evo 3D, but this is a different phone.
so, my question is, what is the right setting for nexus 4 and:
anyone here have experience with this t-mobile blocking, and does it work to go around it?
Please don't preach me about "why don't you just pay," I will be glad to have this discussion with you, but not here.. not the place for it, yes?
thanks!
You can only tether to other android devices without them noticing it
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change the user agent to something not for desktop browsers.
Yes you are correct this is not the place for this discussion.....
But here are some suggestions:
1. Pay for the service you require.
2. Take it up with your Carrier not XDA.
3. Find a new Coffee shop that has free WiFi, the coffee may not be as good as your favorite place but hey the WiFi will be free...
Thanks....
Judge Joseph Dredd said:
Yes you are correct this is not the place for this discussion.....
But here are some suggestions:
1. Pay for the service you require.
2. Take it up with your Carrier not XDA.
3. Find a new Coffee shop that has free WiFi, the coffee may not be as good as your favorite place but hey the WiFi will be free...
Thanks....
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Carriers have been using packet sniffing for months now to determine is some one is tethering or not. If they are then they are fully within their rights to cancel their contract, block it or even charge them for it under the TOS they agreed to. Is this right? That is open for debate. But in the end it is the carriers right. They state how you can and can not use the data and you can either play by their rules or you can change carriers.
Clear your notebook's browser cache and cookies, clear your phone's cache and dalvik, and start using wifi tether more. I also use an app called chrome ua (user agent)...no idea if it does anything, but those tethering pages have never stopped me dead like you (and others) say, and I've been using it for weeks. I was throttled temporarily, but I'm not sure if that was related to tethering or my enormously massive data consumption, since they both happen as a result of one another.
Do as people say, though. Change the user agent, and ime, wifi tether doesn't seem as easy for them to catch on to for some reason. both native wifi and foxfii (pdanet) work great!
I recently received an SMS message from T-Mobile even though I have never tethered. The rep told me that she saw that i had received three messages in the past six months, that my plan allowed tethering, and that she could not figure out why i had received any messages at all. She suggested that the messages might have been triggered by an increase in download traffic. Their monitoring techniques may be at best hit-or-miss.
Well, I talked to tmobile and they informed me I should be allowed to tether as much as I'd like and I shouldn't be blocked. Sounds too good to be true.
The wifi tether app has MAC masking options so I thought it might mask it. Wi it work? Because the app doesn't, not for now.
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use a VPN.
then it will work fine:good:
Any free vpn you know that can work on a Chromebook?
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