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Anyone else connect their phone to a PC and have the internal storage say 9.51GB and not 16GB? Does the phone use up over 6GB for the OS and stock apps? What gives?
highaltitude said:
Anyone else connect their phone to a PC and have the internal storage say 9.51GB and not 16GB? Does the phone use up over 6GB for the OS and stock apps? What gives?
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I show 9.62 available on mine. It is kind of odd, but they did add a TON of bloatware. Once we get root and can remove those apps, we should be able to recapture quite a bit back.
highaltitude said:
Anyone else connect their phone to a PC and have the internal storage say 9.51GB and not 16GB? Does the phone use up over 6GB for the OS and stock apps? What gives?
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Could be like the HOX and have around 10 for whatever storage and 6 dedicated for app storage and software/rom
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Yeah...seems pretty typical for a phone. ..they arent lieing as they never said 16gb useable...
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Yeah mine shows 9.62 total space and 8.48 available after installing my apps from previous phone, kinda sucks but at least there is an SD slot.
I was curious so I checked my old Sprint GNEX 32GB, it also has a chunk missing, about 7.5GB missing, so it is similar.
It would be nice if they listed the missing space as Reserved or System etc. instead of not showing it.
Yup guys 16GB total internal. The ROM and software has to sit somewhere on there. And AT&T has added so much crap to it I'm not surprised. But thats what the SD card slot is for yeah?
The stock apps seem to use up at least 1GB, plus any data they have.
Unsure about the system, but even the system for CyanogenMod 10.1 seemed to be around 600-800MB with all cache/data included. With TouchWIZ on these phones and all the extra bloat, it wouldn't surprise me if there were at least another gig in there.
Aou said:
The stock apps seem to use up at least 1GB, plus any data they have.
Unsure about the system, but even the system for CyanogenMod 10.1 seemed to be around 600-800MB with all cache/data included. With TouchWIZ on these phones and all the extra bloat, it wouldn't surprise me if there were at least another gig in there.
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Exactly. I heard the ROM file for the S4 was like 1.2 gigs or something like that. That's without cache and whatever else it needs to do.
I remember when I had the S3 the ROM file was like 800 megs for TW. And for AOSP it was like 250.
Even with a debloated rom its gonna be the same as the system partition is already set regardless of whats on it...just so you guys know of course it is posssiboe for a dev to tweak partition amounts...but they typically dont unless necessary
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Is this something new for phones? It's pretty ridiculous, and kind of makes me wish I had waited for the 32gb version if I had known such a simple feature would be gone :l
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Denomenance said:
Is this something new for phones? It's pretty ridiculous, and kind of makes me wish I had waited for the 32gb version if I had known such a simple feature would be gone :l
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Hi,
It's a 4.2.2 "Feature"
It's for the greater good. New generation NAND smokes microSD performance, and you don't wanna bottleneck your device by multitasking from SD. On the other hand 16GB should be dropped entirely, we're talking very minimal cost difference for Samsung, so why not start at 32gigs or 64 and go all the way up to 256? This is HD era, nothing comes in small size.
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It's for the greater good. New generation NAND smokes microSD performance, and you don't wanna bottleneck your device by multitasking from SD. On the other hand 16GB should be dropped entirely, we're talking very minimal cost difference for Samsung, so why not start at 32gigs or 64 and go all the way up to 256? This is HD era, nothing comes in small size.
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Hi,
Also the "16GB" is actually only 9.15GB on my phone.
The system eats a fair portion of it.
Before 4.2.2 could you move to sd without rooting then? And will it really kill memory card If i rooted and use folder mount
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If you can't install apps on sdcard
How much space is available for applications in phone?
I'm using gs2 now, and it only has 2gmail for appear from internal memory.
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Youre looking at 9Gb for 16
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So what to do now? :-/ I bought the "16" GB phone being a former Apple user with they expectation of "hey cool, I got an 32 SD card lying around, no problem", when now I end up in a situation where I am expected to do exactly what?? Uninstall all my apps and never download any music?
Still taking any and all suggestions...
knowledgeworker said:
So what to do now? :-/ I bought the phone being a former Apple user with they expectation of "hey cool, I got an 32 SD card lying around, no problem", when now I end up in a situation where I am expected to do exactly what?? Uninstall all my apps and never download any music?
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That's the reason I'm waiting for the 32GB version.
I did the same with the Galaxy S III though I can't understand why they delay the release of the 32GB that much.. I'm pretty sure a lot of people are waiting for that one, right?
And btw, you can put your music on the µSD card, it's just the installed apps that are a problem.
Thanks, yeah you are right. Not sure though if some apps will be smart enough to route downloaded music to my SD card??
While we're at it: My problem is basically the "cloudsync" and more so the "DocumentSync" folder, the latter is > 6 GB large! Anyone knows what that is?
I want to reduce this size, my phone is brand-new!
knowledgeworker said:
Thanks, yeah you are right. Not sure though if some apps will be smart enough to route downloaded music to my SD card??
While we're at it: My problem is basically the "cloudsync" and more so the "DocumentSync" folder, the latter is > 6 GB large! Anyone knows what that is?
I want to reduce this size, my phone is brand-new!
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Cloudsync syncs your pics etc with Dropbox or its samsung account
Swyped from another galaxy
Thanks, indeed. I deactivated all that cloud-syncing nonsense, which solved my problem for now. Now I have a few weeks or months until I have to think again what to do. :-/
Is "Swyped from another galaxy" that a joke on the Samsung Galaxy keyboard system? lol
You're probably looking at 24gb on the 32gb version so a bunch more memory.
Most people will in fact be fine with 9gb though, power users who download a lot of really inefficient apps that cache a lot of things and require a lot of storage should get the 32gb version. I personally will be fine with the 16gb version.
You may be right. I got 2.1 GB of apps for 151 apps, which averages out at 14 MB per app, while I had the feeling that most of my apps are less than 8 MB, oh well. -.-
I won't download any more apps though, but I am sure photographs and stuff will quickly snatch up the remaining 5 GB of space that I freed now...
Will try to find a setting to put my photos on the SD card by default. Any tips (or links to a thread / tutorial about that) are appreciated.
Mithrandir007 said:
That's the reason I'm waiting for the 32GB version.
I did the same with the Galaxy S III though I can't understand why they delay the release of the 32GB that much.. I'm pretty sure a lot of people are waiting for that one, right?
And btw, you can put your music on the µSD card, it's just the installed apps that are a problem.
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Yeah i am also waiting for the 32GB version because of the same reason.
my htc one s 16gb has 2gb dedicated to apps. for me plenty atm. that's independent of the 9.93 internal sdcard, don't know if s4 is same. however, as mentioned, 16gb phones are too small now days and i won't pay for the s4 till it gets 32gb on att and black--
also don't think i can post links to other forums per xda. but if you google "att 32gb s4", there is a link to an att forum specifically for the 32gb release and an active att moderator--just fyi
Mithrandir007 said:
That's the reason I'm waiting for the 32GB version.
I did the same with the Galaxy S III though I can't understand why they delay the release of the 32GB that much.. I'm pretty sure a lot of people are waiting for that one, right?
And btw, you can put your music on the µSD card, it's just the installed apps that are a problem.
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Yea, im waiting 32 gb version. :laugh:
16 gb (9.xgb or 8.8gb) is simply ridiculous
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knowledgeworker said:
You may be right. I got 2.1 GB of apps for 151 apps, which averages out at 14 MB per app, while I had the feeling that most of my apps are less than 8 MB, oh well. -.-
I won't download any more apps though, but I am sure photographs and stuff will quickly snatch up the remaining 5 GB of space that I freed now...
Will try to find a setting to put my photos on the SD card by default. Any tips (or links to a thread / tutorial about that) are appreciated.
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Really? cant u save on the sd card by defalut ????
First of all.. If u want to store ur camera photos on sd card use camera zoom fx.. It's a very good camera app and there u can choose where to store the photos
The second.. U have 8,8 gb on stock firmware if u install a custom rom in a few weeks it will be more free space because of some bloatware installed on the stock and files we dont need i think.. Let the dev's do there great job
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knowledgeworker said:
You may be right. I got 2.1 GB of apps for 151 apps, which averages out at 14 MB per app, while I had the feeling that most of my apps are less than 8 MB, oh well. -.-
I won't download any more apps though, but I am sure photographs and stuff will quickly snatch up the remaining 5 GB of space that I freed now...
Will try to find a setting to put my photos on the SD card by default. Any tips (or links to a thread / tutorial about that) are appreciated.
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For photos there's a setting in the camera app which let's you select which storage to use. If it's not there use a file explorer to copy your photos across to your sd card.
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How do some of you guys get around with teh 8GB version? I thought 8GB was enough for awhile, but now that i decides to put some games on i ran out of space. In fact i ran out of space as i was about to install teh game from the play store, but it stoped before it can get finished now the game isn't even there it still took up the space that it downloaded. any idea how i can get the space back
I really don't game much, I usually only have one or two installed at a time, I lose interest too quick. 8gb has been more than enough for me. I think you know the answer to your question. Move stuff off your phone that you don't need or uninstall games you don't play.
Not sure if this is gonna help you get that extra space back, but some Apps/Games download files which are stored in your SdCard/storage space.
try looking through /sdcard/Android/Data and see if you see it there and just delete the folder. If not...well i tried.
Don't have an answer for you other than moving stuff off. However to answer your question I get by perfectly fine with my 8gb. In fact I have 2.5 GB still free on mine and I will never fill it. I don't game on my phone (don't have time too) I just use it as a phone and G+ device.
I do hope you find a solution though. You could buy a 16gb then sell the 8 but I am sure you would have done that if you could
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Even 16 is not enough (for me)!
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Not sure if this is gonna help you get that extra space back, but some Apps/Games download files which are stored in your SdCard/storage space.
try looking through /sdcard/Android/Data and see if you see it there and just delete the folder. If not...well i tried.
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Thanks that really helped.It was in that folder, but it was hidden i had to use ES explore to go in and find it.
username8611 said:
I really don't game much, I usually only have one or two installed at a time, I lose interest too quick. 8gb has been more than enough for me. I think you know the answer to your question. Move stuff off your phone that you don't need or uninstall games you don't play.
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I was like you when i first bought it too, but my offline gps takes about 1 gb for my states. Then 2 custom ROM files takes about another gb and that leaves me with about 2 gb left. 1 HD game takes about another GB. The whole phone requires about 1 GB(remaining) to function normally (for camera/video features). It would also resttrict all syncing when u run under 500MB. It's rather frustrating Google didn't offer the it as a 16GB as a minimum.
I personally think the microSD option is a great idea. I don't know why so many companies abandoned it.
You're welcome haha. I went through the samething before and learned myself that some files are stored on the phone even if you uninstall the app. Hope you don't mind clicking the thank button
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I personally think the microSD option is a great idea. I don't know why so many companies abandoned it.
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Cost basically. Its cheaper to manufacture without it. To keep a lower price point in the N4 (and well, the other Nexus devices), the added features of other phones (such as microSD support) are removed. Fortunately, devices are starting to ship with more internal storage (like the HTC One and S4), so I suspect the next Nexus phone will see somewhat more. Of course, if the rumors are true, there may very well be a new version of the N4 announced at I/O. We'll see.
For me it is enough. +20 songs, gta III and vice city, almost 50 apps and their backups. But hey, I'll love the 16 gb even when I'm happy with 8.
Just don't keep all the zips from nightlies of the roms
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Even 16 is not enough (for me)!
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Yes 32gb would be perfect for this phone
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18000 mp3's in the cloud, photos and movies on my WD n900 2tb router, and plex for all my media. I don't need more than 8gb I store everything in the cloud.
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Fataldesain said:
18000 mp3's in the cloud, photos and movies on my WD n900 2tb router, and plex for all my media. I don't need more than 8gb I store everything in the cloud.
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Cloud is only for rich people unfortunately.
Fataldesain said:
18000 mp3's in the cloud, photos and movies on my WD n900 2tb router, and plex for all my media. I don't need more than 8gb I store everything in the cloud.
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Yeah, the cloud is nice, but what about those who pay outrageous prices for their data? or those located in an area with terrible data speeds? Streaming isn't really an option because of the cost and/or buffering for those two examples. Personally, 16GB isn't enough for me at all. I have 35GB of music on my computer and while it's also uploaded to Google Music, I prefer not to stream to keep my costs down. I managed to cut my synced music down to 7GB of my most favourite tunes, so that still barely leaves me with 5GB for apps (I have about 100), pictures, games, and other misc. storage... It's pretty tight to manage, so 32GB or even 64GB would be a preferable option for me. I love everything else about the N4, so I try to live with just 16GB, but it's really quite low by today's standards. Google should have known this (and I know they do, but they just want to push their cloud services... this is old news by now)
I have the 16GB, two nandroids (one stock, one backup), 1GB of music, some pictures and a few casual games.
Left with 6GB. can't imagine life with the 8GB.
I been using drop box, it works for me.
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I don't plan on storing a lot of stuff on my phone, have my Nexus 10 for that But I ordered a 8GB N4 just now.
I know when I had my 8GB N7 (now currently discontinued), I found it a pain to hold everything I wanted. Hopefully, I won't find the need to store so much on the N4.
The games I play, eg not FPS, don't take up much room so as of right now I have 4.58gb free.
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I don't plan on storing a lot of stuff on my phone, have my Nexus 10 for that But I ordered a 8GB N4 just now.
I know when I had my 8GB N7 (now currently discontinued), I found it a pain to hold everything I wanted. Hopefully, I won't find the need to store so much on the N4.
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Tablets are different IME, I store a bunch of comic books, books and video on my ipad so the 16gb got eaten up quickly. I don't do any of that on my n4, podcasts are on there and pics...that's about it.
I have the 8gb and loads of 1gb+ games on it, what's my secret? Delete the core file of the game when not playing and upon reopening the app it asks you to redownload it and ta-da all your data is still there!
BTW the 50gb box is use full to save carbon (renamed to helium) backups if you use 7 archiver to shrink it into 200mb zips
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If you just need space for media consider getting a wireless drive as an alternative to cloud storage.
I have the pqi air drive with a 32gb SD card on board and it works very well.
http://recombu.com/mobile/news/pqi-...-ios-and-android-devices-photos_M16479-1.html
For those of you that have the 16GB AND have ROOTED stock, how much more space did you regain by "debloating" the phone and uninstalling all the 3rd party unnecessary apps?
Not that I'm out of space, but after I installed everything I needed, I'm down to 7.15GB (from 9 GB).
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For those of you that have the 16GB AND have ROOTED stock, how much more space did you regain by "debloating" the phone and uninstalling all the 3rd party unnecessary apps?
Not that I'm out of space, but after I installed everything I needed, I'm down to 7.15GB (from 9 GB).
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If you're on AT&T I would strongly recommend just freezing them. Until we have a recovery, finding out you debloated something you need will mean doing a factory reset (if you're lucky).
Debloating does not give you any space
All system apps are in the system partition...so whether the apps are installed or not the system partition doesn't change and remains unusable
You will have to wait for a dev to change the partition size
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Ah I see. Thanks guys. I was just asking to figure out whether I should swap my 16GB for the 32GB. Not sure if the near $85 cost is worth it.
Faluzure said:
Ah I see. Thanks guys. I was just asking to figure out whether I should swap my 16GB for the 32GB. Not sure if the near $85 cost is worth it.
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Dude, you could get a 64GB sdcard and throw it in your s4 16gig for less than the $85 AND not have to go through the hassle of exchange...That is 80 GB obvious not all usable, but still that's a lot on a phone....
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Dude, you could get a 64GB sdcard and throw it in your s4 16gig for less than the $85 AND not have to go through the hassle of exchange...That is 80 GB obvious not all usable, but still that's a lot on a phone....
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Oh I do have the 64GB SDcard. According to this post, App2SD isn't officially supported in JB: [ http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40740150&postcount=6 ]. I know there are some apps that let you do it after you root (such as FolderMount & TiBackup). But if it's going away per Google design, I would just rather not relying on App2SD.
I was just curious.
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Oh I do have the 64GB SDcard. According to this post, App2SD isn't officially supported in JB: [ http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40740150&postcount=6 ]. I know there are some apps that let you do it after you root (such as FolderMount & TiBackup). But if it's going away per Google design, I would just assume to keep doing it.
I was just curious.
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Cool. I get where you are coming from. I just picked up the 16GB version today. Seems like 16 GB should be enough for all the apps etc, then I'm just going to put all of my Media on my SD card.
That being said, I think I am going to take the plunge and root it today and try flashing the custom recovery. (fingers crossed)
Google really is become less and less open as time passes eh?
rb420 said:
Cool. I get where you are coming from. I just picked up the 16GB version today. Seems like 16 GB should be enough for all the apps etc, then I'm just going to put all of my Media on my SD card.
That being said, I think I am going to take the plunge and root it today and try flashing the custom recovery. (fingers crossed)
Google really is become less and less open as time passes eh?
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Yeah. I'm not the kind of phone user who has apps that uses gigs and gigs of data (AKA games). However one of the things I really liked about Android was the App2SD option, as there are some apps that I rarely use (but still use) that I'd rather put on SD. I never really cared how fast they loaded as long as I had them installed.
I'm still going to root but I wanted to ask around. Still, 16GB was much larger than on my previous phone (which had 1 Gig free) but wouldn't install anything after you got down to 200MB free.
I'm very happy with this phone.
rb420 said:
Cool. I get where you are coming from. I just picked up the 16GB version today. Seems like 16 GB should be enough for all the apps etc, then I'm just going to put all of my Media on my SD card.
That being said, I think I am going to take the plunge and root it today and try flashing the custom recovery. (fingers crossed)
Google really is become less and less open as time passes eh?
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I hope you have a Canadian model because if you try flashing on an AT&T model with a locked bootloader you will have a nice brick. Or it wont let you flash. Either way, I hope you have a canadian model or one with an unlocked bootloader.
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I hope you have a Canadian model because if you try flashing on an AT&T model with a locked bootloader you will have a nice brick. Or it wont let you flash. Either way, I hope you have a canadian model or one with an unlocked bootloader.
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I do, thank you. With Bell mobility.
Hi
I am probably going to get a G54 soon and can't wait! But I have two questions before I take the plunge:
1) How much space is available on the 16gb version after removing all the bloatwave via root? This is a major concern for me in the chance there is not a white 32gb version because of the 9gb only available
2) Does anyone know if there are any plans for a White 32gb version to be released? I only see the black version available and I prefer the white version.
Thanks to anyone that can help and I hope all of you are enjoying your GS4's!
I have the same question... would love to know the answer! Thanks
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I've said it many times in many threads....debloating will not give you any use able space
-All the "bloat" is located in the system partition.
-the size of the partition is set to a certain amount, for our case it leaves us with about 9gb
-yes debloating will free space in the system partition, but its not going to change the size of the actual partition. Not to mention the system partition space is unusable for the user, it is there primarily for system/root purposes
-we will need Devs to change partition layouts if we want more free space
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Ah okay, I guess I'm stuck waiting for a possible white 32gb version...
Just get a 32gb sd card. I don't know why people need 32gb internally. I have 2000 songs, videos etc... I still have 5gb free internally and 90 apps installed.
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Just get a 32gb sd card. I don't know why people need 32gb internally. I have 2000 songs, videos etc... I still have 5gb free internally and 90 apps installed.
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Don't the apps download extra information that can slow them down if all that information is moved to the SD Card? The main two that have information like that for me are GroupMe and Facebook. Because for some reason on my iPhone my GroupMe app, among others, has data saved on my phone that boosted it's size from like 30mb to 600mb which I am sure is local data the app saves on my phone. So its a concern for me if the limited space on the 16gb is taken up by things like that. Also, is it possible to automatically save recorded videos and photos to the SD card? I know music can be played directly off of it but not sure about those two.