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Random offset while flashing in Clockworkmod recovery

Since I have been lurking and not posting enough to be able to post in development threads, I decided to post here instead.
edit:enough posts to write in dev section, but brainmaster already updated his OP with this information, which is probably the reason you are reading this now.
People are freaking out of the "Random offset XXXX" notification (it is not an error) when they flash an ICS rom in Clockworkmod recovery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1357407
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19619828&highlight=random+offset#post19619828
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19664213&highlight=random+offset#post19664213
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19669257&highlight=random+offset#post19669257
..and so on.
As far as I understand correctly, this is not an error message at all,
but a safety feature implemented in ICS.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Address_space_layout_randomization#Android
So, it might be wise for the OPs to update their first post in any ICS ROM threads to tell people not to be scared.
Thank you koush, brainmaster, kwiboo and frasiscofranco for a very useful ICS ROM and kernel.

safety for what?
i had this several times but since everything worked fine i didn't think of it as an error..

from
http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-4.0-highlights.html
Security for apps and content
Address Space Layout Randomization
Android 4.0 now provides address space layout randomization (ASLR) to help protect system and third party applications from exploitation due to memory-management issues.

emjayes said:
Since I have been lurking and not posting enough to be able to post in development threads, I decided to post here instead.
People are freaking out of the "Random offset XXXX" message when they flash an ICS rom in Clockworkmod recovery
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1357407
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19619828&highlight=random+offset#post19619828
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19664213&highlight=random+offset#post19664213
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19669257&highlight=random+offset#post19669257
..and so on.
As far as I understand correctly, this is not an error message at all,
but a safety feature implemented in ICS.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Address_space_layout_randomization#Android
So, it might be wise for the OPs to update their first post in any ICS ROM threads to tell people not to be scared.
Thank you koush, brainmaster and frasiscofranco for a very useful ICS ROM and kernel.
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its not only in clockworkmod recovery, its in twrp recovery too. its not an error.

Which is exactly the reason I request the developers to notify users of this. I would do it myself, but since I'm still a xda noob, I can't.
edit:enough posts to write in dev section, but brainmaster already updated his OP with this information.
Sent from my Nexus S using Tapatalk

Thanks, I thought there were a problem with the rom

Sorry for digging out this Thread again but I just wanted to thanks emjayes for his help....This nearly drove me insane and I flashed ICS for the 30th now.

Thanks i thought something went wrong

What's the fix
My phone wont boot... Running Jokersax11 alpha ICS on a MoPho.

MrDixon1213 said:
My phone wont boot... Running Jokersax11 alpha ICS on a MoPho.
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Probably want to ask in your phone's own forum.

What if you get random offset during CWM and nothing ever happens?
Flashing latest ICS Passion on Vibrant (from CM7)

These Rom devs need to add this fix to their source.....
https://github.com/Vanilla-AOSP/pla...mmit/25106fad5ade1aff864c3f3facebde51b0207ff6

Thank You!
I noticed this error (0x315 for me) and I got worried. But, after seeing this, and now that the rom is currently booting up right, I feel safe.

[Q] noob that wants ics

Hi All
I am a noob lol
I have a Acer_A500_7.066.01_com_Gen (not rooted)Running on 3.2 only got download for this a few days ago.
Is the UK going to get ics? Or is there a way to download it my self?
If so could some one give me a step-by-step guide as I am a noob.
Salfordlad

[/COLOR]There are a 2 (maybe 3) ICS Roms currently available.
1. Look in the DEV sub forum for the leaked ICS rom. This is pretty close to what the official ACER rom will look like when it finally comes out.
2. There is a dev here called Protekk. (he is the maybe above) no real info on his stuff, but search here about it.
3. There is a fully working (minus camera) ICS ROM that is very well received by a dev who does not post his work here. Search for "Tegra Owners Forum" via google to find his link. He is also the dev that got CWM working for the Acer.
For any of the above, you will need to Root your device. There are lots for threads on that in these forums.
Enjoy.

as of right now there is no release of ics for our acers.
if you are refering to the "leak " scene on another thread, it is being used by the great, hard working devs to make us our ics. saying that if you are stating that you are a noob, than i really suggest you dot screw arround with what has been "leaked" or you will probably regret it as people are having some problems trying to flash this rom.
there is an ics rom out there with some minor bugs but you will have to search for that yourself
i would just wait and there will be some stable roms out soon
hope that helps

Dr
Thanks for that might just site back and wait don't want to break my Acer only had for one month lol
Salfordlad

salfordlad said:
Dr
Thanks for that might just site back and wait don't want to break my Acer only had for one month lol
Salfordlad
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yup... im gonna wait for a good rom ( moscow i hope you listening lmao ) good things will come to people that are patient

I so agree with Dr .. this acer ics leak is a Dev alpha build its missing a apps and components from the ICS That acer will release..It is also very likely that you will have to flash back to 3.2.1 to update to the acer ics rom when they push it OTA. as this rom has a new boot loader that seems to be Completely different
Big warning.. if you flash this . YOU MUST GET YOUR UID SAVE AND SOUND FIRST.. AS THIS NEW BOOT LOADER IS SUSPECTED TO BE CHANGING IT. This will prevent you from reverting back..
as far as the other rom mentioned above well only thing i will say . Read more about it before you flash. IT However is safe as far as the ability to return to Stock.
good luck If you are not comfortable flashing your tablet i suggest to wait or do much more reading. Asking for a step by step without basic knowledge is Dangerous..
Good Luck..

Erica
Thanks for your advice.
Think I will just sit back and chill until Acer release ICS for us all,but the sooner the better.
Salfordlad

Aaron Camp said:
[/COLOR]There are a 2 (maybe 3) ICS Roms currently available.
1. Look in the DEV sub forum for the leaked ICS rom. This is pretty close to what the official ACER rom will look like when it finally comes out.
2. There is a dev here called Protekk. (he is the maybe above) no real info on his stuff, but search here about it.
3. There is a fully working (minus camera) ICS ROM that is very well received by a dev who does not post his work here. Search for "Tegra Owners Forum" via google to find his link. He is also the dev that got CWM working for the Acer.
For any of the above, you will need to Root your device. There are lots for threads on that in these forums.
Enjoy.
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Best post in this thread, and made by somebody who knows what they are talking about. I'd say listen to Aaron. Option #3 works incredibly well for me.
Sent from my SGH-I777 using xda premium

know how to get out of trouble up front
skatin707 said:
Best post in this thread, and made by somebody who knows what they are talking about. I'd say listen to Aaron. Option #3 works incredibly well for me.
Sent from my SGH-I777 using xda premium
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You are correct to say that Thors rom seems to work well. But the op clearly (not meant to be disrespectful to OP) does not have the knowledge to do the downgrade to root procedure . Nor do i believe he wants to Do so.I think just finding and following a walk thru without atlest some knowledge is dangerous. But If he decides to and wants to try a Stock ics . Thor's ics is likely the safest way to go..
I just believe myself that if someone has to ask they should read more. And not become flash happy. Even following a tutorial can go wrong.. ALSO KNOW how to get out of trouble up front.Just in case something goes wrong.
There is no right answer. its about comfort level of the Person.

Asking questions before hand isn't a bad thing. It also doesn't show they don't know what they are doing. I ask questions, but I have a general feel for what I'm doing.
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[JB][30-08-2012] CyanogenMod 10 for Motorola Milestone 2 (Android 4.1.1)

Hello all,
srry but im dont have 10 post yet, but I'm having trouble,
im using for long time cyanoge 7, after 9 and now the version 10.
But when im install version CM10-20120819-NIGHTLY-milestone2.zip, the phone works perfectly, cam, apps, switching screens is smooth, and it is pretty fast.
But if I install any other version that has left with improvements, the phone gets very, very, very slow, can not even write a message, anyone know what this might be, is it nescessário perform the downgrade to version CM10-20120830-NIGHTLY-milestone2.zip for example?
Thanks for help.

macale7 said:
Hello all,
srry but im dont have 10 post yet, but I'm having trouble,
im using for long time cyanoge 7, after 9 and now the version 10.
But when im install version CM10-20120819-NIGHTLY-milestone2.zip, the phone works perfectly, cam, apps, switching screens is smooth, and it is pretty fast.
But if I install any other version that has left with improvements, the phone gets very, very, very slow, can not even write a message, anyone know what this might be, is it nescessário perform the downgrade to version CM10-20120830-NIGHTLY-milestone2.zip for example?
Thanks for help.
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I guess reading the OP from this thread and the changelog was a bit hard ?
It's simple, that version is the last one with Froyo kernel support, all the subsequent ones don't.
It's why it's stated IN THE FIRST POST that IF you come from Froyo kernel (which is forced if you were on the CM7 from this forum basically), you HAVE to update to either the Chinese GB kernel (linked in the first post by Tezet) OR make an sbf update of your phone with the latest GB European kernel before flashing the new CM10.

macale7 said:
..
But when im install version CM10-20120819-NIGHTLY-milestone2.zip, the phone works perfectly, cam, apps, switching screens is smooth, and it is pretty fast.
But if I install any other version that has left with improvements, the phone gets very, very, very slow, can not even write a message, anyone know what this might be, is it nescessário perform the downgrade to version CM10-20120830-NIGHTLY-milestone2.zip for example?
Thanks for help.
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@macale7
Your cpu frequency is probably set to 300 MHz. Read here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30633001&postcount=391

hello i've had many problems with cyano 10 installation , now I would install it on milestone 2 with a stock rom 2.3.6. Could you lists what I have to do? thanks :laugh:

ryder_r said:
hello i've had many problems with cyano 10 installation , now I would install it on milestone 2 with a stock rom 2.3.6. Could you lists what I have to do? thanks :laugh:
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There is a whole discussion thread about CM10 explaining how to work with it, the steps to install it in the op of the CM10 thread (or the CM9 ones, or the one in MS2 General forum explaining how to install CM9 on LatAm phones and other EU phones, and so on, on top of it being explaining like 10 times in Questions and Troubleshooting or the actual CM10 thread...).
As a registered user you accepted the rules of XDA, using the search function and searching before a question is one MANDATORY rule.
Being a lazzy ass not even wanting to go read the TITLES of the first page of the forums and/or the last 2 pages of the troubleshooting thread or the first 2 pages of the discussion and dev topics of a ROM is kind of painful......

macale7 said:
Hello all,
srry but im dont have 10 post yet, but I'm having trouble,
.
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Please read the very first post by Tezet. Tezet didn't provide Froyo support in his latest rom. So please follow his instructions to fix it.
If this cannot help you, I will suggest you to do full wipe and flash the newest rom again. It's amazing. I love it.

Your problems here could have been avoided by taking the five minutes necessary to read the first post of Tezet's thread completely mate.
As such, this thread is unnecessary, and I'm going to close it.
Please everyone, before you go flashing ANYTHING to your precious devices, make sure you read the fine print first!!!!

[FAQs]-{Help Thread}-[Guide To The HTC Vision]-{July 2014}-

HTC Desire Z & T-Mobile G2 Help Thread​
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There are many ways to root your G2/DZ but only one method you should use, if your phone has never been rooted use the method shown here.
If you already rooted your phone with a different method I highly suggest reversing it and following the proper steps.
THE XDA WIKI Will answer questions about your phone plus give you an easy to follow rooting guide
But before you can root chances are you need to downgrade first THIS GUIDE will help you do just that
If you are having issues then consider one of these two other guides, both use gfree to exploit and essentially are the same guide, but written differently, use what works for you.
STRAWMETAL'S ALL IN ONE PDF GUIDE
or
CYANOGEN GUIDE TO DOWNGRADE then CYANOGEN GUIDE TO ROOT
Mirror If You Can't Find Needed Files
For T-Mobile G2 Variant
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Now You Are Rooted... What Is Next?
For some the rooting process was a breeze, others learned new curse words to use toward their computer. Either way many find what to do next just as difficult as it were for them to root.
Riro Zizo MADE THIS GUIDE to help anyone confused after they gained root access. There are more than just ROM flashing tips so please read on...
Between ROM Flashes be sure to create a nandroid backup then wipe cleanly.
fastboot erase system -w is my preferred method, but I'm a bit OCD about wiping so also consider these tools (and wipe in recovery)
ALL IN ONE Wipe Tool
Supe Handy SuperWipe Tool
Now there are many modifications you can do to your phone, and we are lucky to have one with so many options! Here are some options that for the most part are not ROM dependent.
Adding Linux Swap (understand this isnt always the best thing for your phone)
Easy AROMA Installer for SD or Data Swap and SD EXT
Manually Setting Up Swap
Super Charging same caveat as swap...
Original Supercharger Thread
A Little More Help on Supercharging
Some Misc Scripts
PIMP MY ROM
CrossBreeder
Direct Injection Turbo
Project Xtreame
UNI-init.d
Ad-Blocking
ROM Cleaner
Changing Splash Screen and Bootanimations
Simple Aroma Installer Simply flash in recovery and choose what you like!
Or Make Your Own Splash Screen - ANOTHER HERE
Learn to create Bootanimations Yourself!
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ADB & FASTBOOT a MUST for Android Users!
There is much to learn about both tools, so if you are unfamiliar at least skim through these.
If you are an Android Ninja it may still be worth your while...
Setup and Usage
How To + Why To fastboot setup and the reasons you need it!
A little more info on Fastboot
Portable Guide
Another Helpful ADB Guide
There is Lots to Learn about ADB
Very Handy Simple Windows Installer
There is much to learn but so long as you have an understanding you can survive the cruelties of Android. Feel free to ask any ADB or Fastboot related questions here as well!
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Radios, GPS, and More!
Changing Radios can be a huge performance boost to both cellular reception and battery life. Consider reading these few threads.
Suggest Links To Read Through
Lists of almost all Radios for the Vision
Info on lib-rils (Android Version Dependent)
A bit more info
WIFI Calling Info (still no WiFi calling in Jelly Bean!)
Very Helpful GPS Patch
More GPS Info
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Bootloader, Hboot, SPL
The terms are interchangeable and all are to be thought of as BIOS for windows. Okay, not the same but an easy analogy :silly:
*There are many to choose from but you should only have one of two
The Desire Z Engineering Hboot or the G2 Engineering Hboot
There are a few ways to change bootloaders, recovery, fastboot or with a PC10IMG.zip
**Whenever you flash firmware fastboot is the SAFEST method
If you haven't read up on Fastboot yet PLEASE DO
Here is a (possibly incomplete) list of all bootladers for the Vision
-0.85.0005 (published together with the ROM 1.34.405.5)
-0.85.0008 (published together with the ROM 1.72.405.2)
-0.85.0009 (published together with the ROM 1.82.161.1)
-0.85.0013 (published together with the ROM 2.42.405.2)
-0.82.0000 - stock/ship
-0.82.0008 - stock/ship
-0.76.2000 - T-Mobile G2 Engineering Bootloader
-0.84.2000 - HTC Desire Z Engineering Bootloader
Sense ROMs need the Desire Z Hboot again see HERE On How To
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Recoveries... Which is best for you?
I hate answering "which is best" questions so I wont :cyclops: But I will say 4ext recovery has the most options
4ext Touch Recovery
4ext Classic Recovery
4ext Info page for all Android Devices
ClockworkMod Touch Recovery
Original ClockworkMod Recovery
More Info on ClockworkMod Recovery
Latest CWM Recovery
TWRP
More Info On TWRP
Stock Recovery For The Vision
There are also others for different Android devices, such as Amon_Ra, Cyanogen, JesusFreak, Cannibal, to name a few.
If you want to see any more to pick from talk to the developer or create your own! Lots of info on how to
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Kernels for the Vision
Jelly Bean and ICS
AlterNdromadus
EliteKernel - ICS
Exclusive PachaKernel
AndromadusMod
Gingerbread
Tiamat kernel 1.1.4
ILWT v1.8.1
EliteKernel - GB
TurboCharged
EternityPRJ Kernel
coolbho3000 Kernel
Exclusive PachaKernel
pershoot Kernel
Dekar kernel
UmaroKernel
Sense
Hushi Kernel
Virtuous Kernel
Advanced Sense Kernel
UNITY V9
Exclusive PachaKernel
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One of the most important things you should do to become a true XDA member is search and read. Neither I will teach you to do... but start here!
Important Brick Info!
Main thread for all brick related Questions And Answers
Poll on emmc serial #'s
E:Cant mount /cache/recovery
When all Else Fails Boot From SD
Another Boot From SD Option
Some Did You Knows...
Did you know you can run pure Linux on an Android? Debian on your Vision! - How about Ubuntu!
Did You know you can fix that weak hinge? Read Here - And Another
Did you know you can remap your keys? One of Many Keyboard Remaps - How about for your Headset?
Did you know you can change your Screen Density? Manual Method (there are many apps too!)
Did you know you can increase your headset volume? Try not to damage your ears! - This is nice too
Did you know you can increase SD card Read/Write Speed Indeed this works!
Did you know you can add trackpad wake? For ROMs Without tpwake included
Did you know there is an entire section devoted to accessories? In other words please go hear for Q&A on SD cards, Cases, Screen Protectors, etc.
Did you know you don't need to download apps from the market? Of course you did, but how nice is this!
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TeamVillain presents...SenseGinger @HomerSp
MIUI-Bread 1.5.13 : Ganii-Mod-DE/EN @Ganii
(unofficial) CM#7.1.6.1 CUSTOMIXED CM MOD @B6gSix
Senseless_Desire (sense gone) @siulmagic
Virtuous Fusion @rmk40
Shokouhi_Saga_G2_Gingerbread_Sense_2.0 @shokouhi
Unofficial CM7 Nightlies @G1ForFun
TMOUS G2 Gingerbread 2.13.531.5 @rmk40
RMK's DZ/G2 Doubleshot (Sense 3 + Espresso) @rmk40
DZ/G2 Sensation Sense @rmk40
iSensationHD SENSE HD @Moody
Desire_HD_Gingerbread_Sense @siulmagic
iNxS CM7-RC2 @Moody
Vision Sense 1.85.73.2 Untouched @rmk40
GingerMod Sleek Edition @troby1986
Frozen Yogurt ROMs yes there are some...
[05/03/2011]Warm-Z-TwoPointTwo-Vision @siulmagic
[04/05/2011]Incredible_S_G2 @siulmagic
[03/17/2011]Droid_Incredible_2_G2 @siulmagic
[03/04/2011]MEMRoid Z ROM @mamat847
[03/01/2011]LiquidM_Villain @siulmagic
[02/10/2011]WITH SENSE: HTC Vision G2/Z MoDaCo Custom ROM @paulobrien
[12/24/2010]Enomther's TheOfficial G2/DZ @enomther
[12/21/2010]eViL's One Stop ROM Shop @eViL D:
[12/15/2010]CyanogenMod-6.1 for Vision @cyanogen
[11/29/2010]VillainROMZ & SuperVillainZ @nprussell
[11/29/2010]VillainROMZ & SuperVillainZ for the G2/DZ @nprussell
[11/20/2010]VillainROM Presents...Villision NO SENSE @nprussell
Miscellaneous ROMs As in a separate category...
[07/26/2013]Ubuntu Touch @utopykzebulon
[10/11/2012]SliMusic @Riro Zizo
[03/06/2011]Honeycomb_sdk_G2_port @siulmagic
Official G2/DZ shipped ROMs More Here
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ROMs, ROMs, and More ROMs!
ROMs for the Vision
*NEVER ask which ROM is best - This is a purely subjunctive question and will get a purely subjunctive answer (not too mention start flame wars)
Having said that there are lots to choose from, pick one, do a nandroid, wipe fully, flash ROM and anything else required (gapps, mods, kernel, etc)
CLICK HERE to see ROMs in action! be sure to thank fireball0093 for this!
*Key
AOSP
CYANOGEN
SENSE
AOKP
SLIM
PARANOID
Miscellaneous
MIUI
PAC Man
KitKat ROMs
[06/25/2014]PureKat @_MarcoMarinho_
[03/23/2014]Andomadus - CM11 - Flinny's Build @Flinny
[02/23/2014]AOSB Project @_MarcoMarinho_
[02/15/2014]Permission Spoofing CM11 @guhl99
[12/03/2013]Andromadus CM11 - NeverGone's Build @NeverGone\RU
Jelly Bean ROMs
[03/09/2014]AlterNdromadus @HTCDreamOn
[12/21/2013]4.3.1 - Jelly Mod @masterleron
[12/03/2013]Andromadus - CM10.2 @NeverGone\RU
[11/18/2013]UNOFFICIAL MIUI V5 @santajin
[10/28/2013]Andromadus Permission Spoofing CM10.1 @guhl99
[09/21/2013]Jelly Baby @masterleron
[08/23/2013]Andromadus - CM10.1 @Flinny
[07/08/2013]Andromadus Slim Bean @blk_jack
[06/27/2013]Andromadus - AOSP Jelly Bean @cn.fyodor
[06/16/2013]Andromadus Permission Spoofing 4.2.2 @guhl99
[02/21/2013]PAC Man @xT4Z1N4TRx
[02/14/2013]Andromadus - AOSP4.2.2 @Flinny
[02/13/2013]Paranoid Android 2.51 @HTCDreamOn
[02/06/2013]Andromadus - CM10 @Flinny
[01/29/2013]LIGUX 4.1 @ajhavery
[01/09/2013]MIUI Light v4.1 @v1r0x
[12/05/2012]Ligux V4.1 @ablivian
[11/20/2012]Andromadus Jelly Belly @darkspadez
[06/30/2012]Jelly Bean Gnex Port @siulmagic
Ice Cream Sandwich ROMs
[01/21/2012]coolOS ICS 1.4.0 - (MIUIv4) @coolos
[01/21/2013]SENSEI @coolos
[11/03/2013]RandomROM @Dr. Globbyglob
[08/18/2013]Sense Revolution @The Android Manual
[05/22/2013]ViperZ @nitsuj17
[03/07/2013]Sabsa Prime @ajhavery
[02/27/2013]mySENSE-z @ajhavery
[12/26/2012]Sabsa Bliss 3.1 @lms24
[11/24/2012]MIUIANDROID's port for VISION @strawmetal
[11/09/2012]TrickDroid @ajhavery
[10/21/2012]Ice Cream SENSEwich @xT4Z1N4TRx
[09/04/2012]Andromadus Mimicry @blk_jack
[08/28/2012]Virtuous Infinity @evilcuber
[08/17/2012]Blackout ICS INCREDIBLE @xT4Z1N4TRx
[08/15/2012]EliteMod ICS @nik3r
[08/14/2012]DayDream SagaOfSense @napior
[08/09/2012]ParanoidAndroid 1.5a @NeverGone\RU
[07/23/2012]AOKP builds for Vision @adamz667
[07/22/2012]MIUI 4.0.3 @cjward23
[06/30/2012]Andromadus Audacity @darkspadez
[06/20/2012]QuadraSense @evilcuber
[06/17/2012]Full Sense 4 for Vision @lms24
[06/01/2012]MIUIv4 brushed @Cid-Vox
[05/29/2012]DayDream DesireOneZ @napior
[05/27/2012]AOKP brushed @Cid-Vox
[05/21/2012]SenseMOD FlashONE @djpbx
[05/21/2012]Virtuous Primadonna @masterismos
[05/10/2012]meXdroidMod Fried IceCream @mjybarr
[04/24/2012]Ice Cold Sandwich @jspina
[04/17/2012]MIUI_Au 4.0.3 @ajhavery
[04/14/2012]IceZSense @ajhavery
[04/11/2012]Gen.Y VisionX @yozgatg
[04/10/2012]Unofficial CyanogenMod 9.1 @jerl92
[04/08/2012]Ice Cream JIBwich @xT4Z1N4TRx
[04/08/2012]Ice Cold Sandwich for Vision @SnowOokami
[04/02/2012]LiGux-v4.0 @PJ.C
[04/01/2012]AOSP MIUI V4 @jspina
[03/26/2012]SmartBeat Venomous @zFr3eak
[03/26/2012]MIUI 4.0.3 @wez89
[03/21/2012]SmartBeat Supremacy XL @zFr3eak
[01/30/2012]Virtuous Affinity @cjward23
[01/25/2012]Virtuous Quattro RC3 @Flemmard
[01/25/2012]ICS Slim @s14mc
[01/01/2012]Ice Cream Sandwich for Desire Z @Flemmard
[12/22/2011]ICS AOSP Build @crowstar
[12/28/2011]Desire S ICS AOSP PORT @ xT4Z1N4TRx
[11/28/2011]:: Galnet MiUi :: @erichung_13
[11/24/2011]Ice Cream SandWich Aosp port @siulmagic
Ionic-OneV MIX @vistaman123
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How To Behave on XDA Forums
This section is not meant to offend but rather inform XDA members, please read, understand and abide by what is said in this post... you will never be called a n00b if you do!
First Read This
This alone will save you - thanks Tony Stark
How to post your problem or question
This isn't really complicated but for whatever reason many don't follow the basic outline for posting. So let's see if I can help
Step One
*Have you searched for the answer to your problem/question?
If not do this first, both the search button in the XDA forums and Google work wonders.
At least attempt to show you did a little research before you scream help or this ROM is garbage, Not searching or just simply complaining will get you ignored EVEN IF YOU WRITE IN ALL CAPS
All questions belong in Q&A Forum All General Phone discussion in General NEVER post random problems in Developers section
Step Two
So you have searched for your answer and can't find it, that's okay, it happens to all of us. But before you create a new thread seek out a similar one (in the proper forum for you phone) and ask there.
You may think a new thread is better but in truth people look at the old ones just as much, and keeping all similar questions in one thread helps to elevate congestion and makes the next guys search a ton easier.
Step Three
Know what to post. This means explain your problem as best you can (don't write a book, just not "help my phone is possessed by demons" as this is not helpful)
So this means explain all about your phone, boot into your bootloader and write down all from that screen within your post. Explain how you rooted your phone. Explain where your troubles began and what you have tried to do to fix it.
Give details as much as possible, this usually will include a logcat. Which there are many ways to get, learn how to before you have a problem.
Code:
adb logcat > logcat.txt
Code:
adb shell dmesg ; adb logcat -b system -b radio -b events -b main
Code:
cat /proc/last_kmsg
Also read THIS or maybe try THIS
Use pastebin or codewraps around your logcat ( # sign from above)
Obviously every problem and question will require different information, but the more you give the better chance someone can help you.
Step Four
Wait for your answer, do not post the same question in ten threads, one will do. While you are waiting keep searching for your own answer.
When someone gives you help say thank you (with the thanks button preferably - don't make a post that just says thanks... not ever)
Even if you don't like the answer be grateful someone took time from their day to try and help if you think it's bad advice, maybe reiterate your question and politely ask for a clearer or better explanation to the solution.
Once you have an answer
Edit first post to add the fix. If there was no fix maybe explain why there is no fix in first post.
This will help others searching for a similar problem later. Make sure your helper was thanked as well.
*Remember ROMs, Kernels, etc, may be posted in the developer section, basic questions shouldn't be in those threads.
If you must add something, like a bug report, be sure to add a logcat or you likely wont be helped.
Happy Flashing!
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Tech Specs and More!
Want To Know More About Your Phone?
Both Phones Are The Same But Different [HTC VISION]
Full Specs For The HTC Desire Z provided by GSMARENA
XDA QUICK SPECS (DZ)
Full Specs For The T-Mobile G2 provided by GSMARENA
A Summary Of The Differences Read THIS
But Before the Vision Arrived....There Was The Prototype - More On the Blaze
Reviews
XDA Official Review Thread For The HTC Vision This Is What Users Think
For Those Who Like Graphs and Numbers
Dont always agree with CNET but I always read their reviews
Some Very Informative Reading
Probably been here to root your phone, but read through - lots of info!THE XDA WIKI
Go Through All The Links Here, You'll Be Amazed
Physical Repair And Disassembly
Dissasembly Guide With Photos Man this guy ROCKS!
And Those who hate to read but need to repair their Vision Watch This
Need to fix your Keypad?
Is the colors on your screen all messed up? Probably need a new LCD or Flexcable
How about strengthen your Hinge? I did, its awesome!
Camera Lens gone bad? Try this out!
Common issue but couldnt find a better thread on How Easy It Is To Replace a Dead Flash
How's that Battery Cover doing? Need to clean it up?
Random
So has anyone ever bought One Of These?
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So You Want To Learn How To Develop?
Oh how much there is to learn... but before you read on, READ THIS!
Still Want To Learn Development?
How To Begin...
Learning Java and C++ are great first steps, but real time consuming... be sure to at least try a bit. BUY A BOOK?
HERE you can get a start, even if you know little to nothing
Next get ready to spend hours watching These Great Videos
Did you bother to read All This Yet?
Now That You Have Started The Long Process
Be Sure You Know ADB and Fastboot in and out.
You have learned a bunch about GITHUB And HOW TO USE IT as well as REPO?
You have a proper ANDROID DEVELOPMENT BOX?
So You Are Ready To Build a Rom From Source? Maybe a Port First... or A Kernel?
Not knowing where to begin is common, but my advice is the same as most others; start small, very small. HELLO WORLD
But you know this, so here are some guides for apps, ROMs, kernels, recoveries, etc.
Take Something apart and see how it works Like This start simple
Or Decomplie an app
Simple Modding
Some More Basic To Try Out
Some Nice Tools
UOT Kitchen
VirtuousTenStudio
.apk modding
Put All Your Knowledge into a Flashable .zip
Make Your Own Kernel
More on Kernel Development
Tips on How to use REPO
Learn to compile from source
Still Have a burning question Ask It HERE or in this thread!
Vision Specific Guides
Tips From ajhavery ...thank him
Do Still Have Some Questions? Know Where To Ask Them
Follow The Rules....
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I flashed G-lite 2.0.1 and ended up with no pop-up for USB storage when i connect to PC via cable. Can you help me pls

That's strange, I used that ROM many times and never had this happen, what have you tried to fix it so far? Dirty flashes? Clean flashes? Did it ever happen before? Does it still charge? Would need to know a lot more about your situation
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda premium

sunnyphan said:
I flashed G-lite 2.0.1 and ended up with no pop-up for USB storage when i connect to PC via cable. Can you help me pls
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try a different rom and flashed to your phone to see it is from that specific rom or your phone has a problem

Updated and added a poll, This is very time consuming which is often something I don't have much of
Just curious if others are using this or if I'm wasting time keeping this thread up to date

demkantor said:
Updated and added a poll, This is very time consuming which is often something I don't have much of
Just curious if others are using this or if I'm wasting time keeping this thread up to date
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Just saying, I visit here quite a bit for ROM stuff (at least like 3-4 times a week). I greatly appreciate all the effort you put into it ^.^

although i cannot contribute to this page i sure am glad it was here:good::good:
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fireball0093 said:
Just saying, I visit here quite a bit for ROM stuff (at least like 3-4 times a week). I greatly appreciate all the effort you put into it ^.^
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prob not as funny to you as is me but i like that youre still using the 2nd smartphone ever made over those iCraps you had:good::good:

DaBrinz said:
although i cannot contribute to this page i sure am glad it was here:good::good:
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prob not as funny to you as is me but i like that youre still using the 2nd smartphone ever made over those iCraps you had:good::good:
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xD It's my mom's now as a basic phone, I used to use it as an iPod for my car

谢谢系啊啊~~~~~~~~~~~不找地是啊!1!!

I had all but given up on my G2s and am searching for a new dd. I was surprised and glad to find this thread today while searching for a volume boost app to get me by. +100 and thanks for all the great info! I am sure to find new life in my old phones...
Sent from my HTC Vision using xda app-developers app

benyzi said:
谢谢系啊啊~~~~~~~~~~~不找地是啊!1!!
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Google translate didnt help me much here, but the !! Makes me think good, so thank you
spjuggalojoe said:
I had all but given up on my G2s and am searching for a new dd. I was surprised and glad to find this thread today while searching for a volume boost app to get me by. +100 and thanks for all the great info! I am sure to find new life in my old phones...
Sent from my HTC Vision using xda app-developers app
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I'm glad this thread was helpful for you, and that reminds me, if anyone can think of some import threads that should be added please let me know. As in something you are trying to search out specific to the vision but not found here. Would like to make it a one stop shop, but keep in mind I'm not trying to add new info rather just a thread containing links to other relevant threads,
Thanks to the few of you who participated in the poll, its as I thought; not many using this thread but helpful to those who do. I'll continue to support it
Sent from my Nexus 7 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

demkantor said:
Google translate didnt help me much here, but the !! Makes me think good, so thank you
I'm glad this thread was helpful for you, and that reminds me, if anyone can think of some import threads that should be added please let me know. As in something you are trying to search out specific to the vision but not found here. Would like to make it a one stop shop, but keep in mind I'm not trying to add new info rather just a thread containing links to other relevant threads,
Thanks to the few of you who participated in the poll, its as I thought; not many using this thread but helpful to those who do. I'll continue to support it
Sent from my Nexus 7 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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Showing up here for the first time, but so glad I found this thread.
I'm keeping 2 T-mobile G2 phones updated. These suckers are built like tanks!
How many folks with new devices can see stats like this? (Jelly Baby ROM)
Your efforts are truly appreciated! :good:

Kitkat hboot
Hello Guys,
i have installed [vision] [1.2.8] AOSB Project
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2642605
I have read that I need another HBOOT for KITKAT for more memory in system but which? (Hboot for DZ)
Now I have Hboot 0.84.2000 but nothing changed.
Before I was was on 0.85.0005
which one must be installed?
And
I have no Contacts on SIM with this ROM. Is it normaly?
With Sensei 1.3.0 I have Contacts on SIM
My Desire is with german Keyboard (QWERTZ)

You have the correct bootloader now
I have yet to flash aosb so I can't say for sure but my assumption is that there is a bug in displaying Sim contact, I've seen this on many ROMs in the past so I have migrated to gmail contacts as a workaround. You could do the same.
But you can check by going into contact app and there the settings to see what happens when you choose display sim contacts, if it doesn't work give the dev a bug report and use another contact sync or another rom
Sent from my Nexus 4 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

[Q] Which one is better?

Hi guys! This is my first time posting on this forum, but i have come to many threads as a visitor to figure out problems regarding my google nexus 4 and i have to say this is one of the most useful forums ever! I can find nearly everything here, its totally awesome..
now to the point, my question is Which one gives faster and better performance? Cm10.1 or combination of kernel franco r136 and rom paranoid android alpha? because i recently saw a video on youtube where this person was testing custom nexus 4 vs stock samsung s4 and using only franco r136 and paranoid rom he increased his performance by A LOT (compared to my antutu benchmark which was utterly disappointing.. around 16.5k ) without overclocking..
if the combination is better than how to install the kernel and rom (can anyone link me to a noobs guide to installing roms and kernels?) because i just rooted my phone 3 days ago without checking the "custom recovery check box" .. (btw, the nexus root toolkit 1.7.2 is awesome!!!) ..
i am currently running stock kernel and rom i think and my phone is only rooted.. (kernel version: 3.4.0 and build number jwr66y)..
Thanks for reading my first post and thread!

corruptDNA said:
Hi guys! This is my first time posting on this forum, but i have come to many threads as a visitor to figure out problems regarding my google nexus 4 and i have to say this is one of the most useful forums ever! I can find nearly everything here, its totally awesome..
now to the point, my question is Which one gives faster and better performance? Cm10.1 or combination of kernel franco r136 and rom paranoid android alpha? because i recently saw a video on youtube where this person was testing custom nexus 4 vs stock samsung s4 and using only franco r136 and paranoid rom he increased his performance by A LOT (compared to my antutu benchmark which was utterly disappointing.. around 16.5k ) without overclocking..
if the combination is better than how to install the kernel and rom (can anyone link me to a noobs guide to installing roms and kernels?) because i just rooted my phone 3 days ago without checking the "custom recovery check box" .. (btw, the nexus root toolkit 1.7.2 is awesome!!!) ..
i am currently running stock kernel and rom i think and my phone is only rooted.. (kernel version: 3.4.0 and build number jwr66y)..
Thanks for reading my first post and thread!
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try it yourself doe

jahlovePL said:
try it yourself doe
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read the whole post.. i dont know how to.. ive only just rooted my phone.. and all the explanations i found using google confused me too much.. so i decided not to experiment with my phone till i knew what i was doing..

Try asking on the thread where people no your device well
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45201528
sent from my Sony w890i

bombaybadboy said:
Try asking on the thread where people no your device well
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45201528
sent from my Sony w890i
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oke a question though.. since posting in that thread without actually trying to install a rom or kernel would be useless..
if i make a backup of all my apps.. and say i install cm10.1 or the combination i mentioned in my first post.. will i be able to restore my apps using the nexus root toolkit or will i have to install all my apps from again..?

I have a touchwiz device so im not fully qualified to answer your question. Thats why I gave you a ask any question for your device thread. Most members use apps like titanium backup to back there apps up
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...e&utm_medium=organic&utm_term=titanium+backup
sent from my Sony w890i

wrong thread

We don't allow best ROM/Kernel threads as outlined in the A message from the moderators - All users please read sticky in the general section.
4) No threads or posts asking for the best/most stable ROM/Kernel/Mod/whatever, or created for the purpose of comparing Phones/ROMs/Kernels/Mods/whatever:
These threads/posts will be deleted promptly and without warning. They have a history of causing problems due to trolls, and fanboys, along with various troublemakers, and therefore are no longer allowed. Regardless of that, there is really no way to judge whether or not a particular piece of work is better than another because it's all relative to begin with. If you want to know what piece of work is better for you, install something and try it out for a while. If you don't like it, try something else. Our Developers work hard to provide us their contributions, free of charge. Please show them the respect they deserve by trying something out and giving them your feedback.
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