I have a few questions before I go & buy the Nexus 7 that I'm hoping someone can answer
1) I will be rooting my Nexus 7 to change the LCD density (Tablet UI ftw!) What i want to know is will this break an functionality of the Tablet or apps? I've heard of Google Play Movies no longer working with root, is this true?
2) Does the Nexus 7 have an LED light on it?
3) Will I still be able to get official updates if the device is rooted & if so what will happen when I apply the update? (I only plan to change the LCD density & that is all)
Thank in advance guys & girls
KarlosTheJackal said:
I have a few questions before I go & buy the Nexus 7 that I'm hoping someone can answer
1) I will be rooting my Nexus 7 to change the LCD density (Tablet UI ftw!) What i want to know is will this break an functionality of the Tablet or apps? I've heard of Google Play Movies no longer working with root, is this true?
2) Does the Nexus 7 have an LED light on it?
3) Will I still be able to get official updates if the device is rooted & if so what will happen when I apply the update? (I only plan to change the LCD density & that is all)
Thank in advance guys & girls
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1) there are mixed opinions on that. I've seen people posting that it does. I've seen people posting that it doesn't. its a matter of playing with the values but comes at risk of your device not booting up. plenty of people got in a bind over it. I've seen 160 being a good value. those 170 ones seem to cause alot of issues although some still had issues with 160. its sketchy..lol. I believe there is a workaround for the Google movies to play while rooted. can't remwber where its at.
2)No, not that I've seen or noticed. you have to turn screen on to tell if its fully charged or not. you could always install a battery app that sets off a notification or sound when its fully charged.
3) technically, yes you should be able to still receive updates if rooted. just make sure to use Voodoo OTA rootkeeper to backup/save your root first. then you update(in which you will loose root) as you normally would unrooted. then open voodoo app up and press the restore tab to restore your backed up root file and now you rooted after new update.
now the kicker is that alot of times if you change something in system files or make build.prop changes, the Over The Air(OTA) update will fail. As it runs prechecks for those files to be stock configuration before it applies the update. when it detects something is changed, it fails. now you could just manually install the update and it "should" override all of that. its the complete update and doesn't run those particular checks, I believe. most of the time, from what I've heard, the OTA only updates certain files or whatever that has been updated in new release. Manually updating gives the complete updating of everything(I could be wrong though). kinda like installing the whole updated firmware into nexus vs. OTA just updating certain files.
now with you changing the LCD density n all that, I'm not sure if it'll cause update to fail. if changing that resides in system files or build.prop, then it will likely fail. hopefully someone else will chime in on this also.
1. Some apps only support certain LCD densities so if you change the density to something uncommon, some apps might not show up in the store. I'm not sure about the root and movie situation.
2. If you mean a notification LED, then no.
3. If all you do is root (no custom recovery or ROM), then you'll still get updates. If you apply the update, then you'll lose root.
Thanks for the answers guys!
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May I AKS you a question? :3
Don't have my nexus yet, have to wait until tomorrow.
If possible can someone give the XBMC build a whirl on it and let me know if it is stable (launches, plays SD video nice/youtube, no FC's)
thank you :angel:
edit: found a relevant thread!
XBMC Running on the Nexus 7
Here is another one to the list..
are there different variants from the N7 that you can buy from the Play Store and those you can buy from other retailers? I mean like the Galaxy nexus TAKJU, YAKJU etc
rootusr said:
Here is another one to the list..
are there different variants from the N7 that you can buy from the Play Store and those you can buy from other retailers? I mean like the Galaxy nexus TAKJU, YAKJU etc
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I doubt it as its a WiFi only device but even if it is you can do the same as the Galaxy Nexus & just flash the better version
I believe people buying from the play store said the device knows their g+ nickname right out of the box but aside from that I don't know of any other differences
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What you guys did, after you tear down the box and turn on your acer a500 for the first time, excluding language and timezone selection?
Check for update manually
root it
ibila said:
Check for update manually
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What's the easiest way to do this?
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root it
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I don't know what is it, or how they do it, but first I wanna know why they do it. All I heard is root! root! root!
get to know it
Do not root update install 3rd party apps until you know honeycomb and android
Of course root is obviously needed it also puts system files in your hands to mess up.
Please be careful and read all the forums and threads here
Thanks for hearing my 2 cents
If you dont know why you most likely do not need to do so yet
There are a great bunch of people here .take your time and do not jumpinto to deep
If you're not going to root, obviously the first thing is to set your tablet up with your Google account (either an existing GMail account or a new one.) Then set up any other email accounts, and install any apps you know you want that aren't on the tablet already (Kindle/Nook, games, utilities, TweetDeck, Pandora, MoboPlayer, etc.)
Find yourself a good File Manager; Android doesn't come by default with a program to let you view the files on your tablet :| I personally use ES File Explorer, but HD File Manager is also pretty good and was designed for Honeycomb/tablet size displays.
As Erica said above, don't even consider rooting until you've worked with Android a bit. If you don't need the tools root provides, you're better off not doing it.
Rooting your tablet (or other Android device) installs a "SuperUser" application which can allow other apps to act as the owner of the operating system (for Windows user, Administrator level privileges rather than User). In most cases, the method of getting root involves using a device- or Android-version-specific exploit/security hole.
With Root/SU, you can:
Run root-only apps like Titanium Backup, SetCPU (profiles only currently)
Remove and/or replace apps and other files not normally in the "user" space (CAUTION: Acer's update process expects damned near all of the pre-installed apps to still be there, so ALWAYS back up the original files!)
Once the hard-working and never-appreciated-enough Devs figure out a way around the bootloader (or Acer unlocks it), you can replace the kernel files, overclock, replace the entire ROM with a custom one
Some caveats:
Rooting will almost certainly void your warranty (if discovered should you have to return it for warranty service) and if you do it wrong, you can brick your device (i.e. you now have a flat black brick, not a functional device)
Some apps will not work on devices that are rooted (and/or have the SuperUser app present). Currently this includes at a minimum Google Movies and Blockbuster.
DON'T waste you time trying to update. It's been pulled until release fo HC 3.1.
DO enjoy the unit!
DO download apps and play.
Root at your own risk, but HC 3.1 is around the corner and you will have a dificult time getting it if you don't know what your not a techie.
Lastly, put it in Airplane mode before sleep mode to save battery. If you are turning it off, no dif.
Get Astro file mgr - free
Get Weatherbug for HC - free
Get Pandora - free
Load a micro mem card with all you music and videos, and enjoy one of the best devices in production.
If you have a memory card reader, blow you Ipad friends minds by asking them to borrow the memory card in their digital camera, plug it into the USB and swipe through their pictures. They don't have an app for that.
I have had my A500 since last week. I have basically just been trying out apps and browsing Forums to get more info. In the end the forum here seems to be most active and contains the most interesting information.
Also try to google for list with "Optimized for Honeycomb". This will make you fiind the apps that are optimized for the Tablet.
I did not root my device as I dont have any need for it (yet), but I am certainly waiting for 3.1. The current version of honeycomb is a bit unstable.
For the rest just enjoy the tablet
Smile, you just bought a great tablet
So what are you guys saying is that I should not update my build version, and wait for the 3.1 update
Of course first have to buy a screen protector before remove the plastic cover. Apply the screen protector before it get dusted. Then only turn on the device, sign in your Google account and connect internet and do setting. Then go update the firmware.
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So what are you guys saying is that I should not update my build version, and wait for the 3.1 update
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Correct, unless you know what you are doing.
I just bought a Xoom tablet and so far love it. I also own an Inspire 4G which is rooted and has many apps installed. I noticed soon after first sync that the apps from my phone are now on my tablet. I assume they are they apps listed in the Market which is ok except that it seems that they are "small screen" versions if there is such a thing. Is there a way to block or stop syncing to certain devices while allowing others? Am I clear whith this question? Do large format apps exist? Will the market auto download the correct version of the app depending on the device?
Just started to get up to speed with Android on my inspire, now comes another learning curve!!!!
Thanks in advance.
For most apps, there is only one version which the author can update to include our tablet (16:10) format. It's not that "small" versions are being downloaded, it's just that the version doesn't yet take full advantage of the extra screen size on our tablets. It's worth searching though, because some apps may have a larger (or tablet-specific) version abailable. Or, you may find another developer has a similar app optimized for the tablet. But, for the most part, the apps come in one flavor and as the author has time (or need), they can/will update the app for Honeycomb support.
Hope this helps to answer at least part of your question...not sure about stopping the process once it has started. I know that the first time you setup your account on some android devices, they will start downloading any apps you have in your library. My Xoom didn't though... Probably because I canceled the initial setup purposely then did it manually later. Doing it manually will bypass the app download as I recall.
As always... Great support on this community driven site!!! Thanks.
I suppose I will next look to perhaps rooting, although, as yet I see little need. Haven't noticed the bloatware that so burdened my Inspire4G.
I think there is also a "compatibility" setting on the Xoom that you can uncheck...in Applications??? that will allow the apps to show full screen, though they may be jaggy. Search for it...it might work for some of your "Must Have" apps=win!
Also, the market should show you a tablet specific selection of apps.
Good luck.
Whether you want it our not, if you're still on stock you WILL be getting this weird update, more geared towards developers than users. But then again,. this is Ouya, so nothing new.
No visible benefits (but annoying menu changes) and a very funky "changelog". https://www.ouya.tv/chupacabra_mini_update/
Boy...do I ever regret being so naive to think this would be a real Android device with real original development.
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Whether you want it our not, if you're still on stock you WILL be getting this weird update, more geared towards developers than users. But then again,. this is Ouya, so nothing new.
No visible benefits (but annoying menu changes) and a very funky "changelog". https://www.ouya.tv/chupacabra_mini_update/
Boy...do I ever regret being so naive to think this would be a real Android device with real original development.
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Personally I'm happy with the update. It might not be a huge update but there's some nice changes. The fact that they're reaching out to devs will benefit the user in the long term with more games so I see that as a plus also.
I'm curious what you mean by a real android device with real original development.
Would this update change the settings that we had before? Like root and all the sideloaded apps?
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Would this update change the settings that we had before? Like root and all the sideloaded apps?
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You lose root. If you used the one click root method the app will still be on your OUYA and root is just a couple clicks away. All settings are saved. If you had the play store then you will have to open the xposed app and install the framework again, don't update, reboot and should be good.
Let me know if you have anymore questions or need help. One of my ouyas didn't like the new update at first but was easily fixed wirh latest update and all settings saved.
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Whether you want it our not, if you're still on stock you WILL be getting this weird update, more geared towards developers than users. But then again,. this is Ouya, so nothing new.
No visible benefits (but annoying menu changes) and a very funky "changelog". https://www.ouya.tv/chupacabra_mini_update/
Boy...do I ever regret being so naive to think this would be a real Android device with real original development.
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I don't see how being able to sideload apps easier than ever before is no visual benefits...
I save my Generic.kl file to help with updates. Just update, tell CWM to disable recovery flash, reroot, and paste my generic.kl file back into system, then restart and im golden. Takes about 5 minutes tops to do all this, no that big of deal, the GF can do it from me guiding here over the phone, easy as pie. I tried CM11 and the enhanced rom but didnt like the issues and random kinks so i stuck with the stock rom. I like some of the ouya games and only use it for xbmc beside the occasional party game I use to use nova launcher so that way everyone knew how to use it even if they never have before since it was like stock android, now i just use the normal ouya launcher. The upload APKS thing makes no difference to me, i just copy the apk link and paste it into the apk downloader site the download the apk right onto the ouya. install it with file manager. I also favorite all my frequent apps so theyre in the play menu instead of the make menu.
lscheres said:
I save my Generic.kl file to help with updates. Just update, tell CWM to disable recovery flash, reroot, and paste my generic.kl file back into system, then restart and im golden..
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Good idea, thanks for the tip re generic.kl.
Disclaimer: I know this should go in the correct subforum for my device, but I'm having trouble navigating this site, altogether. I only see subforums for a handful of devices. So if there is a better place for this thread, I apologize
Oh, where to begin. My wonderful girlfriend got me this tablet back in october, since i said it'd be nice to have a linux based tablet so i wouldn't have apple telling me what i can and cannot do with my device (she saw that as a hint, even though it was more social commentary, but I'll take it). Anyway, I found the 16GB limitation problematic, so I decided to root it so i could use some sort of sshfs app to create a slow multi-terabyte harddrive space to steam small files (like music) from. Seeing as i had the thing for only a week and it's kind of expensive, even for a nurse, to buy for me, i chickened out and made due with a small 8GB microSD card which i just happened to have laying around.
Fast forward to a few days ago, I ordered from Amazon a 128GB microSD card (also from samsung), and decided to try to make due with that. Only to find out (and, if you're able to help me you've probably met the following issues yourselves) that the seemingly largest apps refuse to let you move them to external storage. Even better, there's some apps like Star Wars KOTOR (2.5GB) that say they let you move them, but in reality they stay on internal storage and create empty folders on the external medium. And then many apps cannot write and read to and from SD cards (like DOSbox Turbo), for reasons that completely stump me (which leads to me having to move dos games back and forth when i want to play one that saves). I then read about this wonderful feature called "Adoptable Storage," and promptly go through all sorts of things to try to enable it, only to find out that, since I have Android Version 6.0.1 from Samsung, that feature was disabled by them. After using the email support to berate them (they don't have a suggestion box), decided to try to come here and figure out how to properly root this device and figure out how to solve my space issue (I have 128GB of space that I need to use, but have no idea how to use it for what i need to use it for). By the way, a small shoutout to Samsung support, despite my very terse response, there clearly was a human being at the other end and this human was very, very civil and said that they'll pass it on as feedback (I got the impression that the employee either had the same issue or at least wanted me to know that there have been alot of complaints about this issue).
Anyway, now that that wall of text is over, this is how far i've gotten.
I know that XDA is reliable, they've had problems in the past with malware, but it was unintentional and the ship has been cleaned. I don't know about anywhere else, so the rooting instructions i find elsewhere i assume are probably correct, but i don't know where to get files for the process that i can trust, outside of XDA (and i'm having trouble finding the files i need, here).
I have a nice little article from techbeasts.com ( techbeasts.com/install-twrp-and-root-samsung-galaxy-tab-e/ ), but I don't know where their downloads came from and how many people checked them out for windows and android trojans and such.
So...
1. Is that article accurate for android 6.0.1?
2. Are those files safe (free from corruption and viruses)?
3. If they're not safe, where can I get safe files?
4. I like to develop programs, and I want to be able to develop apps for android as well. Once rooted, how does one test how their app would work on an unrooted device to ensure the app follows the "proper procedures?"
5. How do I deal with apps that are root sensitive? The point of all this is so that I can keep using my apps, so if they all break because i'm rooted that defeats the purpose.
6. Other than having to be careful with what i do (I've used Linux for years, and I occasionally like to code in assembly), that it voids my warranty, and that screwing up can make for a really bad day, is there anything else that I should know? This is, indeed, my first touch screen device outside of Nintendo products, because my V3xi is fine for me as a phone.
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7. Forgot the most important question: How would I go about getting adoptable storage working on this device once it is rooted?
Forward: Given the nature of my question, the URL is absolutely necessary. After I've gotten my "10 useful posts" I'll fix the URL for future viewers.
EDIT2: Decided to take a chance. Ran into some issues finding the "stock firmware" which I ended up having to do. For those that have problem getting TWRP to stick, you gotta flash the stock firmware of the version you have currently installed. I tried to flash the original that it came with, which, for some reason, it didn't like at all.
Oh, and don't turn off OEM mode after everything's done. I assumed that after everything was installed it wouldn't second guess it and i could safely turn it off for added security if any app went rogue or something. Nope, must keep it on, so do regular backups. Turn off auto-updating, etc. I hear there's some sort of app that lets you "update safely." Not sure what it is, but unless you *NEED* it, don't do it.
And as a bonus note (so it shows up in the archives), some apps didn't install right (either google or the app developer's fault, but these apps weren't tied to this process [pokemon go and just about all the final fantasy games]). The kicker about this is is that you will not notice this UNTIL you uninstall the app, and reinstall it. Deleting the data before uninstalling the app will make it unstable. To find the data, i used
Code:
du / | grep "pokemon" > pokesearch.log
, since i knew that there should not have been a pokemon related directory on my droid at the time, since i needed to reinstall pokemon go because it was acting really fruity. Deleting the folders (actually, the last entry contains the rest, so it's easier just to delete the last one) allowed me to avoid the -504 issue (not to be confused with 504).
Code:
[email protected]:/data/data/com.termux/files/home # cat pokesearch.log
4 /mnt/expand/07aa2c40-4a8f-428c-afb9-7495df69eb26/user/0/com.nianticlabs.pokemongo/cache
1192 /mnt/expand/07aa2c40-4a8f-428c-afb9-7495df69eb26/user/0/com.nianticlabs.pokemongo/code_cache
12 /mnt/expand/07aa2c40-4a8f-428c-afb9-7495df69eb26/user/0/com.nianticlabs.pokemongo/shared_prefs
4 /mnt/expand/07aa2c40-4a8f-428c-afb9-7495df69eb26/user/0/com.nianticlabs.pokemongo/files
1220 /mnt/expand/07aa2c40-4a8f-428c-afb9-7495df69eb26/user/0/com.nianticlabs.pokemongo
Message me if have the same tablet on a system root
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denakor said:
Message me if have the same tablet on a system root
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We can talk here for the benefit of the community. Any problems you might have should be documented for the sake of the community. But, yes, the -504 error i mentioned above can only be solved through root, so, yes, i was successful.
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We can talk here for the benefit of the community. Any problems you might have should be documented for the sake of the community. But, yes, the -504 error i mentioned above can only be solved through root, so, yes, i was successful.
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I have the same tablet
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keith thibodeau said:
I have the same tablet
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Tablet just updated itself after I tried to root it .. MM 7.0.1 but I didnt ask it to
I disabled automatic updates (from settings and google play, 'cause it's in both places) to prevent this problem. There might be a new firmware for the tablet, but i'm sticking to this version. I'm not sure you can downgrade after you upgrade, though. You can take a shot, though, if you're not afraid of loosing data. I doubt this process will brick as long as you can get the official firm ware on backup incase something goes wrong.
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We can talk here for the benefit of the community. Any problems you might have should be documented for the sake of the community. But, yes, the -504 error i mentioned above can only be solved through root, so, yes, i was successful.
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Now it seems impossible to root without pc
The tablet is owned by someone else and they want to use one app called Landscape Magazine. On the Nexus 7 it runs fine but the battery just went on it and I'm having issues sourcing a replacement battery in the UK so that's where the HD8 comes in. I thought I could just put the Play Store on (plus framework etc) and it would be ok for them. It downloads the app fine, all others work fine but when I try to launch this one app it says it only works on Android tablets. I don't know why they'd code it that way but it is what it is.
Can anyone tell me if there's some way to get an app to run if it's throwing up an error like this?
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The tablet is owned by someone else and they want to use one app called Landscape Magazine. On the Nexus 7 it runs fine but the battery just went on it and I'm having issues sourcing a replacement battery in the UK so that's where the HD8 comes in. I thought I could just put the Play Store on (plus framework etc) and it would be ok for them. It downloads the app fine, all others work fine but when I try to launch this one app it says it only works on Android tablets. I don't know why they'd code it that way but it is what it is.
Can anyone tell me if there's some way to get an app to run if it's throwing up an error like this?
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Not easily. It would take experimentation to determine which device or rom characteristic(s) are trigging the behavior followed by additional fiddling to entice the app to run. Tethering that Nexus 7 to a slim power bank may be the best solution.
NEED ROOTED.
/system/build.prop
ro.product.brand = Amazon
ro.product.manufacturer = Amazon
Change to 'Google' or etc.
I think amazon is banned by the app.
The exact error message is "This app is only suitable for the Android platform."
Didn't see the pictures attached by @erono. If you root the tablet (or may be possible in temp root shell) and change the keys he mentioned, the app works after reboot.
Thanks all for replying, especially erono who seems to have found the solution. I'll see what I can do with it because my understanding is that there is still no major Android build for the 2018 HD8. I have a starting point if nothing else and that's more than I had before!
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Thanks all for replying, especially erono who seems to have found the solution. I'll see what I can do with it because my understanding is that there is still no major Android build for the 2018 HD8. I have a starting point if nothing else and that's more than I had before!
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You could always root it and just edit BuildProp (excellent guide by bibikalka) . As far as other ways, I'm not knowledgeable enough to know any alternatives. Maybe without root, you might be able to pull BuildProp from the elevated shell and push it back after changing the lines. I'm sure there would be some permissions changes required. Hopefully someone with a bit more experience pops in and can guide you if rooting isn't an option.
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You could always root it and just edit BuildProp (excellent guide by bibikalka) . As far as other ways, I'm not knowledgeable enough to know any alternatives. Maybe without root, you might be able to pull BuildProp from the elevated shell and push it back after changing the lines. I'm sure there would be some permissions changes required. Hopefully someone with a bit more experience pops in and can guide you if rooting isn't an option.
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No need to modify build.prop nor will any notable gains be realized by doing so. Simply follow the guides as written.
Davey126 said:
No need to modify build.prop nor will any notable gains be realized by doing so. Simply follow the guides as written.
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Yeah, sorry I meant in specific context to having that particular app work on the HD 8 2018. Thanks to @erono (and testing it myself) Lanscape Magazine works with changing brand and manufacturer values in the BuildProp. I know it's possible and easy to do with root. I'm just not knowledgeable enough to know any other methods.
Method without root:
Use 'App Cloner (pro version)' create an cloned app.
You can modify MANUFACTURER and BRAND in 'Developer options -> Build props'.
App was modified, you can't update in Google Play Store or purchase any paid content.
This is not a good way.