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Root without unlocking BL?

Hello!
I would like to know if there is a method to root the Nexus 7 without unlocking the BL?
Could not find an answer in other threads...
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random hero said:
Hello!
I would like to know if there is a method to root the Nexus 7 without unlocking the BL?
Could not find an answer in other threads...
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you need to unlock the bootloader to install custom roms etc. I'm sure you could root the device install a su binary and super user and then easily relock the bootloader with a single command fastboot oem lock. What exactly are you afraid of? It's super easy if you have android sdk installed.

I don't wanna void warranty... and I don't want the related factory reset.
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random hero said:
I don't wanna void warranty... and I don't want the related factory reset.
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Then you won't get root.
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You can backup everything using adb backup (okay there are some app you can't backup with that, e.g. Temple run or Subway Surf) and after unlocking restore the backup

Root nexus 4 without unlocking bootloader

Hi all,
I used to be a hard core iOS user and just boarded on android wagon with my nexus 4 version 4.2.1. I am still learning my ways around android coolness and stumbled upon apps like display control for nexus 4 or titanium backup etc which require root access.
Can I just root and install these apps or any other apps which needs root access without unlocking the boatloader (From what I have heard it will wipe phone and is only useful if there is a need to install custom roms...which I have no use for as of now..just root)
Thanks in advance.
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I'm pretty sure you need to unlock bootloader to root..
I recently rooted and was able to back up everything.. I dont think I lost anything when I restored my backup

You only need to unlock the boot loader if you are going to flash custom ROMs. Other you can leave it locked and just root it.
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The short answer is that you must unlock.
The long answer is that in theory you could achieve root without unlocking but in practice any other method is just too difficult.
No one is going to make the effort when backing up all your files, unlocking, then starting again with an empty phone, is about a million times easier.
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Use a new app called carbon backup. No need for root. It backs up app data etc...
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Backup your apps + data (photos) with titanium backup, then copy the folder to your computer or sync with Dropbox. After unlocking bootloader (wipe) just copy /sync The folder back
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calanizzle said:
Backup your apps + data (photos) with titanium backup, then copy the folder to your computer or sync with Dropbox. After unlocking bootloader (wipe) just copy /sync The folder back
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Titanium requires root

Read this if you want to have root with a locked bootloader.
But you still have to unlock and lock
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010312
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I was under the same situation, but part of learning is breaking stuff.
I had to reinstall the stock rom in my phone twice in the first week, and lost all my settings in the process, I would just say that rooting is worth the process and the pain.
And carbon backup does not require root

I have unlocked and rooted my Nexus 7, and I plan to do the same with my Nexus 4, so I'll go ahead and ask the question here.
Once I unlock and root, could I, and should I relock the bootloader, and if so, will it wipe all data again, but leave it rooted? In other words, I want to root, but have heard that leaving the bootloader unlocked is a bad idea. If the response applies to both my 4 and 7, please advise.

wvcadle said:
I have unlocked and rooted my Nexus 7, and I plan to do the same with my Nexus 4, so I'll go ahead and ask the question here.
Once I unlock and root, could I, and should I relock the bootloader, and if so, will it wipe all data again, but leave it rooted? In other words, I want to root, but have heard that leaving the bootloader unlocked is a bad idea. If the response applies to both my 4 and 7, please advise.
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Bootloader unlocked may void warranty.
Unlock bootloader. Root phone. Relock bootloader.
But when u install an OTA u have to do the same process again because
u lose root.

Unjustable said:
Bootloader unlocked may void warranty.
Unlock bootloader. Root phone. Relock bootloader.
But when u install an OTA u have to do the same process again because
u lose root.
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If I unlocked, rooted, but didn't relock, will relocking wipe my tablet/phone again?

wvcadle said:
If I unlocked, rooted, but didn't relock, will relocking wipe my tablet/phone again?
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I believe it's only when unlocking. But can't tell 100% sure

Thanks to all folks for taking the time to contribute here.
OK..so what I am hearing is that I can unlock the boot loader for root but that's not mandatory. Correct? Is not t advisable ?
Also will I lose ota updates if I
1) just root, no unlocking boot loader
2) root + unlocking boot loader
Again I have no idea on androids world of custom Roms and kernels
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anx.sap said:
Thanks to all folks for taking the time to contribute here.
OK..so what I am hearing is that I can unlock the boot loader for root but that's not mandatory. Correct? Is not t advisable ?
Also will I lose ota updates if I
1) just root, no unlocking boot loader
2) root + unlocking boot loader
Again I have no idea on androids world of custom Roms and kernels
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You need to unlock bootloader to root. I don't believe there's an exploit for rooting with a locked bootloader for jellybean.
You won't lose ota if you unlock and/or root. Just make sure the phone is only rooted and no system files are modified
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anx.sap said:
Hi all,
I used to be a hard core iOS user and just boarded on android wagon with my nexus 4 version 4.2.1. I am still learning my ways around android coolness and stumbled upon apps like display control for nexus 4 or titanium backup etc which require root access.
Can I just root and install these apps or any other apps which needs root access without unlocking the boatloader (From what I have heard it will wipe phone and is only useful if there is a need to install custom roms...which I have no use for as of now..just root)
Thanks in advance.
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You need to unlock the bootloader if you want to root. But you can side load apps (Not using Play Store) without rooting.
Unless the app requires root for the app to function correctly.

Thanks so much guys. I went ahead and unlocked the boatloader followed by root. I used the wugfresh toolkit and it was a cakewalk. I didnt install any custom recovery.
The only problem is dolphin browser beta has stopped working now. It was great before.
Also, should I re lock the boot loader...and how.
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I found the cause. The ad block plus app is no blocking the dolphin beta browser.
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You only need to re lock it if you return it for warranty. The stickies have many guides showing how.
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juicyjones said:
You only need to re lock it if you return it for warranty. The stickies have many guides showing how.
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+ back to stock first
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Rooting Nexus 7 16GB

Hi!
I want to root my Nexus 7 with unlockroot but I know that then warranty won't work anymore. But if I unroot then my warranty will work again. So my question is.. When I root my Nexus and when somethong happens (like not turning on anymore or etc.) then I can't unroot it? It means that warranty won't work and I have to fix it by myself or take it to some business who does things like this.

Just use one of the nexus toolkits and you can unroot or relock bootloader, whatever you want.

What toolkit do you suggest using? Because I just ordered a new 16 gb Wi-Fi version
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As far as I know they are both as good as each other. It seems to be down to your UI preference. I use mskip's toolkit, but other's prefer Wug's.

So if my Nexus 7 is not turning on I can easily relock bootloader and unroot?
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AW: Rooting Nexus 7 16GB
jeremin said:
So if my Nexus 7 is not turning on I can easily relock bootloader and unroot?
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Exactly
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Wat from do you guys suggest starting out with
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jeremin said:
So if my Nexus 7 is not turning on I can easily relock bootloader and unroot?
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How would anybody do anything to a device that can not be turned on?
Perhaps you meant "won't boot", but who knows really.
If you experience a hardware failure or do something dumb like flash junk to the bootloader (or erase it without flashing a valid one before exiting the currently-running bootloader), then nobody here can guarantee you anything at all.
There have been a couple of reports on here of devices which developed apparent hardware troubles which did not totally brick the device (that is, the unlocked bootloader state could still be observed), but apparently wrecked things to the point that no currently known techniques could rescue the device or relock the bootloader.
Having said that, there have been even more reports of newbs doing stupid stuff and bricking their devices. Interpret that any way you like; I interpret it to mean the owner bricking the device is more likely than it being caused by hardware failure.
Until there is something like "nvflash" for the N7 (might never happen), the N7 should not be considered to be unbrickable (say compared to Samsung devices that work with Kies/heimdal).
good luck

CWM with locked bootloader?

Hey guys,
I just bought the nexus 4 from a guy and its working awesome. The only "problem" I have is that the guy before me was playing around with the nexus. And now I have a locked bootloader, no SU binaries/root but CWM?? Is it possible to have CWM with a locked bootloader?
Anyways, i dont want to play around with it because the original store that sold this nexus will blame me for playing around with it if something actually happens.
So can i update it to key lime pie when it comes out without any problems?? Or can i remove CWM without unlocking the bootloader(i have alot of apps)?
Thanks
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You can flash a ROM and then relock the bootloader. Just unlock it and start again

Nevermind

EddyOS said:
You can flash a ROM and then relock the bootloader. Just unlock it and start again
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Can i update it without removing the nonfunctional recovery?
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It's better to go back to 100% stock so you know exactly what's been done

You can always use this if you're rooted. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.segv11.bootunlocker
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Got Nexus today, fully updated, will toolkit work?

Can I use the Nexus toolkit to unlock n root, latest firmware not listed. Is it still supported?

mockneygeeza said:
Can I use the Nexus toolkit to unlock n root, latest firmware not listed. Is it still supported?
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I'd recommend learning to do it manually rather than a toolkit, that way this will never be an issue again. It's very easy to do. See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2382051. The entire instruction set is in the very first post.
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oldblue910 said:
I'd recommend learning to do it manually rather than a toolkit, that way this will never be an issue again. It's very easy to do. See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2382051. The entire instruction set is in the very first post.
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That is not manually rooting. It uses auto root (and has superfluous steps), which is silly for a nexus device.
This is how you root "manually":
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2536420
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xdhall said:
That is not manually rooting. It uses auto root (and has superfluous steps), which is silly for a nexus device.
This is how you root "manually":
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2536420
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DOH! I used the wrong link. I should have checked. Thanks for saving me!
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thanks alot guys, just didnt wanna brick it on the day i got it :crying:

mockneygeeza said:
thanks alot guys, just didnt wanna brick it on the day i got it :crying:
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Np.
Just holler if you have any questions.
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mockneygeeza said:
thanks alot guys, just didnt wanna brick it on the day i got it :crying:
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We're here to help, man. Try it manually and let us know if you run into any problems. It's basically impossible to hard brick a Nexus device. Almost anything can be recovered from.
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I have used the wugfresh toolkit to root on latest firmware (KRT16S) and it works fine. Just select the "any build" option. Don't know about unlocking though, as my device was unlocked from 4.3
However, I do remember that I was able to unlock my 7 using the wugfresh toolkit BEFORE there was even an option for "nexus 7 2013" so it will probably work ?
Or you could do it the way everybody else here is saying, instead of the newb way ? (but I prefer the newb way)

dragonboydbboy said:
I have used the wugfresh toolkit to root on latest firmware (KRT16S) and it works fine. Just select the "any build" option. Don't know about unlocking though, as my device was unlocked from 4.3
However, I do remember that I was able to unlock my 7 using the wugfresh toolkit BEFORE there was even an option for "nexus 7 2013" so it will probably work ?
Or you could do it the way everybody else here is saying, instead of the newb way ? (but I prefer the newb way)
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Toolkit was updated and supports latest kitkat, I prefer the easy way. Not that I wouldn't of tried the other method. I've rooted plenty... Just wanted the easy option. Took a while to sort out.. As I had just factory restored my laptop. Anyways that's for all ur help guys, all sorted here!

Wugfresh is what I used. Works flawlessly. Very fast an simple ?
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mockneygeeza said:
Toolkit was updated and supports latest kitkat, I prefer the easy way. Not that I wouldn't of tried the other method. I've rooted plenty... Just wanted the easy option. Took a while to sort out.. As I had just factory restored my laptop. Anyways that's for all ur help guys, all sorted here!
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I really don't understand how a toolkit can be "the easy way" on a nexus device. Run two fastboot commands and press one button and you've done it manually. You never have to worry about someone else's code working or compatibility for future updates. And it's the same for any nexus device.
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Well it's all good, I'm happy...the toolkit was coded by a legend.. Who I've donated too in the past.
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