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Will This Section Be Divided?

As most know the Galaxy S series will soon have 4 variants, one for each carrier will this section break off to 4 different sub-forums?
I know usually you'll be able to find ROMs here but say we get a CDMA variant the unlocked GSM version won't work (or at least I think it won't). Just wondering how this section will play out since this is sort of a first for a phone to come to all 4 carriers in a different variant with different specs/features.

First and only sticky thread at the top. It's hard to miss.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=714799

[Q] Which GS4 model should i get?

I would prefer to be without a contract, I'm okay being without LTE in the USA, would like international usability, and am confused about all these different variants in model numbers, processor types, and versions (e.g. Google edition, Active edition, etc...). Thanks!

whiteblazer01 said:
I would prefer to be without a contract, I'm okay being without LTE in the USA, would like international usability, and am confused about all these different variants in model numbers, processor types, and versions (e.g. Google edition, Active edition, etc...). Thanks!
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Go for I9506.I think is the best.I own this phone and is better than I9505.But if you are looking for any custom rom you will not find anyhing for it(yet) only root and a few mods compatible from I9505.But overall is way better than i9505.The Snapdragon 800(2,3 Ghz and Adreno 330) does his job very well.And....there is no official android 4.3 for it.Just 4.2.2.I9506 rocks the benchmarks.In Antutu(stok ROM,stock Kernel) it scores around 35000 pts.

none , don t purchase an s4 , if u really want a Samsung device the s5 is coming soon , also concerning international usability with regional lock Samsung is not a good option

If you're considering a Google play edition device, you're better off with the nexus 5
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aresbv2000 said:
Go for I9506.I think is the best.I own this phone and is better than I9505.But if you are looking for any custom rom you will not find anyhing for it(yet) only root and a few mods compatible from I9505.But overall is way better than i9505.The Snapdragon 800(2,3 Ghz and Adreno 330) does his job very well.And....there is no official android 4.3 for it.Just 4.2.2.I9506 rocks the benchmarks.In Antutu(stok ROM,stock Kernel) it scores around 35000 pts.
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Thanks for the recommendation, I'm looking into this. What carrier are you using; any plan suggestions? (I'm not too eager to sign a contract)
difyel said:
none , don t purchase an s4 , if u really want a Samsung device the s5 is coming soon , also concerning international usability with regional lock Samsung is not a good option
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Has the S5 been announced? Doesn't Samsung usually release new year flagship phones in March/April? I'll need one much sooner than that.
Also, what's the problem with international use on a GS4? I think I remember reading that International GS4s in the USA don't have 4G use, and USA GS4s don't work well in other countries. If I get a rootable GS4, would this resolve this concern?
Thanks again for the help guys!

[Q] Is there any Dev's going to do work for the G900H version of this phone?

Id like to find out if there are any custom roms for the G900H or if there is anyone that has one that will be customizing the stock rom etc... Kinda sad that there is no one yet Is it because of the CPU???

Tim34 said:
Id like to find out if there are any custom roms for the G900H or if there is anyone that has one that will be customizing the stock rom etc... Kinda sad that there is no one yet Is it because of the CPU???
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I am also interested in knowing the answer to this question.. infact the s4 exynos has got the custom roms so will this device follow suit?

Dunno.
Seems people are even less interested this time.
S4 had AndreiLux for custom kernels.
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drakester09 said:
Dunno.
Seems people are even less interested this time.
S4 had AndreiLux for custom kernels.
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I dont believe that the reason is people not interested. I think its matter of time. First,this is the newest version, and also, the most difficult built with 8 different cores.

luisnica98 said:
I dont believe that the reason is people not interested. I think its matter of time. First,this is the newest version, and also, the most difficult built with 8 different cores.
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Number of cores are completely irrelevant to the difficulty of building a kernel for Exynos. It's all about knowing the platform, the capabilities and what you can and cannot do. Which comes with experience...
It's just a matter that Samsung drove away all developers from Exynos. We used to have really talented devs on this side (Entropy512, Codeworkx, among others), but the lack of support from Samsung and lack of sources for Exynos burned them out.
S4 had AndreiLux, who is an excellent dev with tons of knowledge.
N3 has halaszk, which has done a great job and also brought back features from S4's perseus to the N3.
Don't really expect much for this device. It's not a matter of time, N900 (Note 3 Exynos) doesn't has an AOSP rom and it has been several months now.
I will likely build something when I get time, I frankly want to improve a couple of small things and increase GPU clocks to offset for the lower performance compared to the Adreno 330... but it will take a while, thanks to halaszk's work, I know where to poke.

drakester09 said:
Number of cores are completely irrelevant to the difficulty of building a kernel for Exynos. It's all about knowing the platform, the capabilities and what you can and cannot do. Which comes with experience...
It's just a matter that Samsung drove away all developers from Exynos. We used to have really talented devs on this side (Entropy512, Codeworkx, among others), but the lack of support from Samsung and lack of sources for Exynos burned them out.
S4 had AndreiLux, who is an excellent dev with tons of knowledge.
N3 has halaszk, which has done a great job and also brought back features from S4's perseus to the N3.
Don't really expect much for this device. It's not a matter of time, N900 (Note 3 Exynos) doesn't has an AOSP rom and it has been several months now.
I will likely build something when I get time, I frankly want to improve a couple of small things and increase GPU clocks to offset for the lower performance compared to the Adreno 330... but it will take a while, thanks to halaszk's work, I know where to poke.
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Will you only build a kernel or a complete rom?? I just so want stock looking custom rom hahahah

What devices do this forum support?

Hello all.
Long time user of XDA but kinda confused on this particular thread. I have a Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3 and have only installed roms from it's respective forum. I also notice other carriers have their own forums as well but this one is just labeled Samsung Galaxy Note 3. I've never knew which phones these forums support or why it exists in the first place. Thank you very much for info and sorry for dumb question.. I just can't seem to find the answers. I do realize I can see what models the roms support and most models are something other than the sprint or verizon models (N900p and N900v) thanks again.

These are the boards for the remaining 6.9 billion inhabitants of planet Earth, namely the ones not living in the USA.
More specifically, these boards are dedicated to the International and/or Unbranded versions of the Note 3. Primarily the N9005(Snapdragon) and N900(Exynos), but also the Canadian N900W8, the Asian models and all other non-US models.
US models have separate boards because they are completely different devices with often completely different firmware. (right down to settings and options.)
All non-US models are variants of the primary models, the N9005 and N900. Aside from a few small, cosmetics software differences, they are all the same. So we've got one place for all of those.
But there's plenty of discussion regarding the US models here too, because the General, Q&A, Accessoires and Apps boards are for all Note 3 variants.
Hope that clears it up a bit.
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Perfectly explained. Thank you very much!
Totes ma goats sent from ma notes.

New to S7... Why are there only 3 roms posted here?

Is there something I'm missing?

Sammy locked the Bootloader

Yup. This is the most highly sought after device with almost no developer support.
If you wanted root then you should get pretty much any other phone.

if you change the Android Code, you have to share it.
ahq1216 said:
Sammy locked the Bootloader
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Correct me if I am wrong, but according to the Android Platform User Agreement (I think), if you change the Android Code, you have to share it. Or some form of developers open source agreement. Correct?

So there has been no root accomplished whatsoever on the T-Mobile S7? If that's true, then I'm hanging on to my Note 7 and selling the S7E.

Binary100100 said:
Yup. This is the most highly sought after device with almost no developer support.
If you wanted root then you should get pretty much any other phone.
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Then what is the post in your signature about?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ve...sed-unroot-t3411039/post67605246#post67605246

And what's the deal with the engineering bootloader?
http://www.theandroidsoul.com/root-t-mobile-s7-edge-engineering-bootloader/
Looks like S7 has had an unlocked bootloader with this for a while... Still very confused as to why there are no roms here.

unkellsam said:
Then what is the post in your signature about?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ve...sed-unroot-t3411039/post67605246#post67605246
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unkellsam said:
And what's the deal with the engineering bootloader?
http://www.theandroidsoul.com/root-t-mobile-s7-edge-engineering-bootloader/
Looks like S7 has had an unlocked bootloader with this for a while... Still very confused as to why there are no roms here.
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I suppose you really need to read a bit more.
For all Qualcomm US devices the bootloader is LOCKED.
This is well known and documented. Root is possible only with an engineering kernel. The page that you referenced is inaccurate as it referenced an engineering bootloader. It's actually an engineering boot.img file that the writer mistook for a bootloader. Again... it's an engineering kernel not engineering bootloader.

unkellsam said:
So there has been no root accomplished whatsoever on the T-Mobile S7? If that's true, then I'm hanging on to my Note 7 and selling the S7E.
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There is, but it's very unstable. Phone tends to lag and overheat due to the (something i dont understand).

serendipityguy said:
Correct me if I am wrong, but according to the Android Platform User Agreement (I think), if you change the Android Code, you have to share it. Or some form of developers open source agreement. Correct?
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Well, yes and no. Parts fall under GPL, and parts of what Samsung uses to enable full functionality of the phone are NOT. The fact that they use special digital signatures in the boot process to prevent loading unsigned code is totally up to them (i.e. its all the stuff that happens before "android" starts...

sbaeder said:
Well, yes and no. Parts fall under GPL, and parts of what Samsung uses to enable full functionality of the phone are NOT. The fact that they use special digital signatures in the boot process to prevent loading unsigned code is totally up to them (i.e. its all the stuff that happens before "android" starts...
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But arn't there other S7 roms from Verizon, AT&T and Sprint having developers pushing out custom kernels? Is this something that T-mobile can release but won't?
Google gives/updates the OS, Samsung gives the S7 hardware / Updated OS - Patches the OS & then gives to the Carriers (Tmobile) and they plug in their hellware (Bloatware), surely they have the source or the ability to modify the stock rom when updates are being pushed out to the carriers.
When a New Stock drops, it is the phone carriers who modify the kernel's, boot animation, build property, and sets their modems and such . . . Not Samsung because they would not be want to push out the kernels, modems, build property, boot animation & custom roms for each phone carrier in each region of each county. So lf what I am thinking that our phone carriers developers are lame ducks....
Going the other way on this, how does Sam Mobile play into this? how is it that they are able to host the roms on their servers? Arn't there any links from Samsung to host the roms?
Please if I am wrong, please someone correct me.

It's complicated...
Samsung locked the bootloaders on all US (Qualcomm) S7 but left the bootloader unlocked on international (Exynos) roms and some international Qualcomm roms.
This sucks and hopefully is not repeated on the upcoming S8 which may be Qualcomm only.
Last summer, an engineering bootloader was leaked and a group of people here got a root that uses the engineering bootloader. It's not perfect, as it forces people to use a non-production kernel. More people here came up with settings to get the most out of that kernel.
Right now we are in the middle of the transition to Android 7 and the engineering root doesn't work with it presently. Until a solution for that is reached
At the same time, the international rom deveopment has gone smoothly with over a dozen roms updated and a few tweaked kernels. The Exynos phone itself seems to be faster and with better battery life (but worse reception) compared to a standard qualcomm. Rooted with a custom kernel on both, it's like night and day how much better the exynos performance is. Some people ported T-mobile wifi calling and Volte (through CSC settings) to the international version, so for a certain user (of which I am one), the ideal root solution is to run a full speed exynos 930F on Android 7 and retain t-mobile functionality.

unkellsam said:
Is there something I'm missing?
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Samsung blows

T-Mobile and Samsung both ****ed up around this time
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fracture8 said:
T-Mobile and Samsung both ****ed up around this time
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I hear you.
Im gonna pay off the half of the phone in 7 months and then will jump ship to a one plus 4/5 when its released.
So much wasted potential

I would get the G935F.
serendipityguy said:
But arn't there other S7 roms from Verizon, AT&T and Sprint having developers pushing out custom kernels? Is this something that T-mobile can release but won't?
Google gives/updates the OS, Samsung gives the S7 hardware / Updated OS - Patches the OS & then gives to the Carriers (Tmobile) and they plug in their hellware (Bloatware), surely they have the source or the ability to modify the stock rom when updates are being pushed out to the carriers.
When a New Stock drops, it is the phone carriers who modify the kernel's, boot animation, build property, and sets their modems and such . . . Not Samsung because they would not be want to push out the kernels, modems, build property, boot animation & custom roms for each phone carrier in each region of each county. So lf what I am thinking that our phone carriers developers are lame ducks....
Going the other way on this, how does Sam Mobile play into this? how is it that they are able to host the roms on their servers? Arn't there any links from Samsung to host the roms?
Please if I am wrong, please someone correct me.
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T-Mobile and Samsung keep playing around. I'm really hoping the Note 8 comes with an unlocked boot-loader or this may be there strategy going forward for the US.
rp3 said:
It's complicated...
Samsung locked the bootloaders on all US (Qualcomm) S7 but left the bootloader unlocked on international (Exynos) roms and some international Qualcomm roms.
This sucks and hopefully is not repeated on the upcoming S8 which may be Qualcomm only.
Last summer, an engineering bootloader was leaked and a group of people here got a root that uses the engineering bootloader. It's not perfect, as it forces people to use a non-production kernel. More people here came up with settings to get the most out of that kernel.
Right now we are in the middle of the transition to Android 7 and the engineering root doesn't work with it presently. Until a solution for that is reached
At the same time, the international rom deveopment has gone smoothly with over a dozen roms updated and a few tweaked kernels. The Exynos phone itself seems to be faster and with better battery life (but worse reception) compared to a standard qualcomm. Rooted with a custom kernel on both, it's like night and day how much better the exynos performance is. Some people ported T-mobile wifi calling and Volte (through CSC settings) to the international version, so for a certain user (of which I am one), the ideal root solution is to run a full speed exynos 930F on Android 7 and retain t-mobile functionality.
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I was dead set on getting the Note 7 but after the fiasco i settled for the S7 edge. the G935F also has all the bands that t-Mobiel uses so we get band 12 as well. The issue with getting the G935F is trying to buy online as it has to be imported and still get insurance and so forth. Bought from B&H photo ( aa reputable US store) for insurance and good support. The g935F turned out to be a good gamble. As long as you wait there was alot of development. Since alot of us T-Mobile guys hopped over we were able to get Volte and wificalling ported over via various CSC edits and other workarounds. So we get alot of custom roms and T-Mobile support as well. Only issue you have to root and loose Samsung pay but for me that a okay lol.