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Sleep of death (SOD)

I have had a half a dozen totally stock mytouch 4gs that will run perfectly fine but about 4-6 times a day I will pull the phone out of my pocket and it will be totally unresponsive to the power and trackpad buttons. No led no button lights or anything. To get it back to normal I have to pull the battery and reboot. I just loaded virtuous fusion 1.0.6 and the problem persists.
I've tried factory resets, formatting the sd card, new sim card, turning off screen animations, clocking the cpu higher when the screen is off, and running with no apps and no google account set and none of that has helped. The only common thing between all the phones is my number and google account and it still happened after a factory reset without signing into google.
Has anyone else had this issue? Am I just extremely unlucky?
I just loaded loaded the 26.08.04.30 radio we'll see if that helps...

Have you run a logcat?
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kimbernator said:
Have you run a logcat?
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No I'm kind of a noob at this stuff. I'm not familiar with logcat at all. Where should I start?

i've had this problem as well, usually only once a day tho, the led does still work and the buttons do light up as well button the screen just wont turn back on unless the battery is pulled
i posted this in another similar thread but still no answer, i want to know whats wrong! lol

I have seen this but not that bad, are you checking your phone constantly cause thats what happens to me. Lock, unlock, then the lcd doesn't light up but led, and buttons do, try loading the newest radio 26.09
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andrewdoessuck said:
I have seen this but not that bad, are you checking your phone constantly cause thats what happens to me. Lock, unlock, then the lcd doesn't light up but led, and buttons do, try loading the newest radio 26.09
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This happened to me once,just battery pulled & all is well.. I wanna knw what causes this too??
Mytouch 4g-white
Permrooted s-off
Root Method-gfree
CWR-3.0.2.4
Rom-Royalginger v2.1
Kernel-Ckisgen~smartass~v1.2

I feel like if it happened on 6 phones that often, it must be the user...

It also happened to me all the time, but ONLY on gorilla sense HD rom .....
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lowandbehold said:
I feel like if it happened on 6 phones that often, it must be the user...
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At one point I thought that too. I thought "theres no way they sent me SIX dud phones in a row." So I wiped my sd card and did a factory reset without signing into google or anything and loaded no apps and it still did it.
I noticed though that when I pull my sim card out and use it in my other mytouch 4g(which works perfectly fine with that sim) this phone will not show this issue without the sim in it. So I started thinking it might be the radio as I've tried a different sim card and that didn't work.
This is my first day with the new radio so I will report back with my results.

Well that didn't work. It just SODed on me twice in a half an hour.
Should I try flashing the other radios or CM7 or something? I'm wary of flashing too much as I have the dreaded M4G2E emmc serial.

i also have the latest radio but still get this problem every once in a while, i almost wanna say i started noticing this after i started flashing different radios tho, first the 26.08.04.30 radio then the newest 26.09.04.26 radio

smatthew45 said:
i also have the latest radio but still get this problem every once in a while, i almost wanna say i started noticing this after i started flashing different radios tho, first the 26.08.04.30 radio then the newest 26.09.04.26 radio
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Maybe I'll try the oldest one then.

I noticed today that if my phone becomes unresponsive and I plug it in the charging light will come on and I can boot the phone without pulling the battery. It does a full boot too not a fastboot. For some reason though if I do this it will SOD on me way quicker than usual.

johnsmith970 said:
Well that didn't work. It just SODed on me twice in a half an hour.
Should I try flashing the other radios or CM7 or something? I'm wary of flashing too much as I have the dreaded M4G2E emmc serial.
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I think that is the issue your EMMC. I had this problem with my phone, then one time it happened when I pulled the battery it bootlooped and CWR showed me that lovely error... be careful. Wish we would know if your other phones had the M4G2E as well. My current phone has the other chip and I have never once had the SOD like I did on my old chip.

Safe Mode

Is there any way at all to disable the Fascinate from ever loading into safe mode again? It's really annoying when it happens because I have to reset all my widgets.
I've flashed my phone several times and it happens with every rom that I've had on it so is it part of the baseband kernel?

Get rid of the conflict that puts you in safemode. Safemode has to be better than your phone bricking.

johnnyplaid said:
Get rid of the conflict that puts you in safemode. Safemode has to be better than your phone bricking.
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List off the steps you used when flashing these last few roms (and what rom specifically) that you say are making you boot into safe mode...I've only seen it once on my phone and 1 reboot fixed it and I never seen it again, but that was months ago and I just chalked it up to me missing a step?! I have flashed many roms since and never see safe mode again.
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Im starting to think that it's more a problem with my Fascinate than anything else. It usually happens when I have to pull the battery due to it locking up. Sometimes pulling the battery out a second time still doesn't get me out of safe mode and I have to continuously do it until it does.
For the past few months I've been using CM7 and updating with nightlies. On Monday I updated to the stable GLITCH kernel and so far it seems to be running much better. It's always had a problem with randomly bringing up my keyboard and backing out of apps and I have not had that problem yet since putting the GLITCH kernel on it.
Figured I'd also note in here that the GLITCH kernel is not currently working with the newest Cyanogen nightlies. It bootloops and I found that out the hard way.
For now im running GLITCH v11.1ML and CM7 Nightly 35 and it's been great so far.

so glad I havent run into safe mode

[Q] Phone calls cause device crash

When placing phone call my device crashes with purple led flash.
cell signal normal, text messages work, cell data works
I'm not sure if problem lies in hardware or software(bad flash, radio, ect)
I replaced the digitizer
Currently running Kang ICS RC0-9.0 | faux123-v025
Had same problem with Neutrino 2.1
Any ideas or test suggestions?
PROBLEM SOLVED, WHERE DID MY FRIDAY NIGHT GO THOUGH?

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Alright, phone isn't shutting off after all. Calls are active but the phone is unresponsive, and must be rebooted with battery pull. still don't know what up though.
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dac1227 said:
Alright, phone isn't shutting off after all. Calls are active but the phone is unresponsive, and must be rebooted with battery pull. still don't know what up though.
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are you already on 2.3.4.91 ?

chamoy said:
are you already on 2.3.4.91 ?
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No, I couldn't get the zip for 4.91 to flash for some reason so I did Neutrino 2.5 after sever data formats.
update: on on GB 4.5, same problem persists
SOLVED

How did you solve the issue?

I'm having the same issue too. It's only in regular cell calls. The phone becomes unresponsive to everything, screen wont turn back on, etc. Battery pull is the only thing that has solved it for me. It's happened three/four times in the last month, at least. I'm running CM7 Faux 1.1, back when it was originally released. This isn't just a CM9 issue.

Well the issue was less solved but minimized in the end.
After many fastboot formats and CWM flashes, I ended up fruitcaking back to 2.3.4, that's when the problem started to be less of a hassle; meaning the screen would come back on and buttons/soft-keys were again responsive and a battery pull wasn't needed.
I re-installed Turls ICS and the problem is still present, but it doesn't hinder making or receiving calls, I just hold my breath with each.
I'm suspecting that when flashing either the kernels or roms, things are not getting cleaned and formatted as well as they ought to be. I know there is a universal CWM zip floating around somewhere (seen it in the skyrocket forum). We've had similar issues in the skyrocket forum where remnants of previous flashes were being persistent, or resistant to format attempts.
I messed with it for hours trying to fix so I cannot say for sure what I did to make it a non-immediate issue, but if others describe like problems I try and help.

xscottishx27 said:
I'm having the same issue too. It's only in regular cell calls. The phone becomes unresponsive to everything, screen wont turn back on, etc. Battery pull is the only thing that has solved it for me. It's happened three/four times in the last month, at least. I'm running CM7 Faux 1.1, back when it was originally released. This isn't just a CM9 issue.
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I was having the issue with Neutrino 2.1, 2.5; Turl ICS, and stock 2.3.4. The latter seemed to be the most effective method I employed to fix, without bricking.

Could be a brick, Could be hardware...

A Little History: :silly:
I have been running i9220ZCLP1...known bad kernel since whenever it was first available, April I think. Anyways, acquired that through flashing Rocketrom v5, according to the instructions provided at the time. Everything worked fine, other than contacts crashing and the wlan some times not enabling until reboot...common issues, as far as I've seen on these forums. One thing to note, is that unless the instructions at the time asked for a full wipe after flashing 5 (I'm almost certain they did not), then there has not been a full wipe performed while in this kernel.
The current issue:
The other day my phone froze on me...months after flashing and having used this kernel, waiting for something more solid to come out. After it froze...holding the power button turned it off, but the phone would not boot afterwards...to ics, to recovery, to download mode, nothing.
After some fiddling, I realized that it will charge and once it buzzes and the screen comes on showing a full battery, I can turn the phone on and it will boot...then freeze after getting past unlock screen. Or freeze and go black in download mode...didn't try recovery, wasn't interested in it at the time, but I'd imagine the same.
After removing the battery for a few days, then plugging it in til full charge notification, I was able to get it to boot again, where it froze at the boot screen, but went dark. After one more full charge...oddly, like a minute later, it booted to ICS fine and worked for 24 hours or so.
Now:
With a mind to flashing away from the bad kernel, I restarted the phone tonight from the menu in ics... it booted fine, so I left it plugged in to get a full charge and came back to a phone, screen still on, that shows same battery % as when I left it. And I'm back to where I started with this problem, powered off after holding power button a few seconds and now nothing.
Waiting for a full charge again, to see what happens...I'm guessing/hoping I'll be able to get it to boot again, with some more fiddling...
My question is whether this sounds like it's hardware (battery etc) or software (bad kernel etc) that is causing the problem.
If I can get it into download mode...plugged in, obviously, should I try OdinPC to a safe kernel?
Thoughts would be awesome. :fingers-crossed:

How about flashing stock GB via pc odin first and getting safe?

apurvapatel said:
How about flashing stock GB via pc odin first and getting safe?
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+1 I've read a few people on ICS having charging/battery related issues over time. Worth seeing if it still happens on a gb kernel.
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apurvapatel said:
How about flashing stock GB via pc odin first and getting safe?
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OK, that's one vote for flash if I can get it running again. Thx, glad you read my post.

SpyderTracks said:
+1 I've read a few people on ICS having charging/battery related issues over time. Worth seeing if it still happens on a gb kernel.
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Hmm, but how to get there...GB and all.
So now the vote is software. Any idea why this would happen much much later? No battery issues at all, just suddenly.
Maybe I'll buy a battery.

nebreprah said:
Hmm, but how to get there...GB and all.
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A little searching would show you DrKentan's guide @ http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424997

SlimBean 4.3 Screen Wake on Standby

***TL;DR***I know now that 4.3 has this bug and it is something we will deal with. I understand the causes, but the problem is buried in the kernel vs the ROM, you can still read my semi adventure but I wanted to make this edit to save you time if you think I found an answer. Overall WIFI is a huge trigger for screen wakes along with shotty or chattery reception.***
First off SlimBean is pretty much the best ROM I've dealt with, so many options, faster then I've ever experienced, and sharp looking. I've been sharking around these forums for 2 years afraid to ever make a name and post due to my lack of knowledge. I love the search options for finding answers that this forum offers to visitors and I've surely used it to root an old AT&T Atrix 4G and now my current DD the Glacier. Now I feel as though I have a little bit of sense of what the heck I am doing and would like to share my path to figuring out how to make SlimBean 4.3 work for me. Who knows maybe this may help some people that have similar problems.
The problem::: On a SEMI clean install of [UNOFFICIAL]SlimBean 4.3 \\ Nightly \\ 22.08.2013 I noticed the Glacier in standby would suddenly illuminated with light although the screen was black. It was enough to light to catch my eyes as I was starting to fall asleep. I ignored it until morning then paid attention to it happening all day at work on and off constantly with the WIFI off and just mobile network, then mobile network off, reboot, nothing seemed to help and I couldn't bare the thought of the phone's screen just on all the time.
After reading threads about HTC's possibly having bad screen made from Taiwan I was in disbelief that it was the Hardware as coming from a year old version of MIUI, I never had a problem with the screen. Leading to the idea it must be a software issue / user issue in which I must of rushed the install of the ROM or it's a quirk in 4.3.
Prior to reinstalling the same ROM, I went with trying other similar ROM's finding [UNOFFICIAL] Carbon 4.3 \\ Nightly \\ 26.08.2013 literally was just released, also a super customizable fast ROM. Everything went smooth until I played music through headphones and the illuminated black screen was back. Now I'm definitely convinced it's the software so I move on to the source code of these ROM's ev_glacier-nightly-2013.08.27.
Ev_glacier-nightly-2013.08.27 Had no screen wakes after 2 hours idle on mobile network only. I wasn't in a location with WIFI as I believe a network with a lot of information chatter may be causing these standby black illumination wakes. Back to SLIM.
SUPER clean install. 1) Format SD card completely 2) fresh download w/ checked md5 of Slimbean 3) Full Wipe "wipe data factory reset" "wipe cache" 4) format/system & format/cache manually just in case 5) Clear Dalvik 6) And fix permissions since although I believe it has no point but it's just so easy to click just in case. Probably doing things double.
Here I am now.. Slimbean is back and nothing but the .zip has been installed along with updating Nova Launcher. I am waiting to reinstall GAPPS so I can first isolate this problem within the ROM itself. What I am noticing is on just mobile network 2g/3g/2g+3g I do not get the phantom wakes, but with WIFI on it so far is only happening about 20-30 seconds after the phone drops into Standby and at least now it's not long lasting, just a few screen black flashes and it's gone. The entire 20 minutes or so I've been typing this, keeping an eye on the screen it's been quiet. Progress is being made.
Now I have thoroughly read up on and used Better Battery Stats, Wakelock detector, and Greenify to help isolate problems prior to the clean install and am waiting to install any Google apps (play store) up until tomorrow so I can pay more attention to my phone and make sure it's just a WIFI wake lock causing the screen to illuminate black. Also was toying with the idea of installing 3.0.64 kernel. I'm curious as to see if it's not just the WIFI wake lock, but all wake locks that actually wake the screen. Once I'm ready to install the play store I'm going to start combing through the device using these fantastic guides and the aforementioned apps...
[GUIDE] The Total Newb's Guide to Wakelocks ::: [HOW TO] Fix Your Skyrocket's Battery Life ::: [GUIDE] Insanely Better Battery Life When Idle
My goal with this long post is to share my experience and also commended these developers on these awesome ROM's. I will post much shorter updates on how I fixed or found the exact problem. Mainly after searching I saw similar issues but not this direct "random black illuminated screen" problem. Thanks, and be sure to call me out on anything contained in this post.

the waiting game
At 9 hours from 100% charge, I'm at 40% battery with on 1.5 hours of screen time. I went through all my settings and disabled all sounds and haptic feed back. I have yet to install any apps and am running off the bare bones of just the ROM. WiFi & 4g mobile data were on all night with the screen flashing only if I used it then locked it with the power button.
Thinking I can live with these timeout 2-5 flashes, I start browsing the forum from my phone, put it down to get ready for work, look back at the phone as it is flashing black screen rampantly on it's own. Then it holds the black screen for a solid minute or two.
WiFi chatter wake lock must be doing this... Reboot to recovery - wipe dalvik - wipe cache - reboot phone. Now to test just 4g network, flash happens on first screen lock, but not as rampant. Hmmm. My next step will be to wait for full battery drain / charge then I want to try the kernal I mentioned above. 3.0.64 kernel.

Funny stuff
Realizing the Kernel I wanted to flash doesn't work with 4.3, I hope at least some of the 86 people that viewed my post got a laugh. Even the older version of SlimBean causes the random screen flashes and the screen on while charging even with the ROM settings for such off. WiFi seems to be the greatest cause. It's as if wakelocks are actually being represented as screen flashes since the kernel is so powerful.
I just don't want to use the CM ROM...
I'm going to dig around the forums further and type in different key words of my problem just to make sure I didn't miss someone already answering this question. Slim has all the functions I always wanted out of my droid and I'm dead set to make it work...or just live with screen flashes I guess.
Hope this is a comedy for someone.

only other link
I've found on the issue I have.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1148057

Non-Stop ROMS
1) SlimBean 4.2 & 4.3 Both have this black screen flicker / black screen wake / black screen on while charging.
2) Carbon 4.3 Had it black screen on while listening to music / black screen constant while charging
3) Evolve 3.3 based of 4.3 seemed to work fine, but I wasn't a fan of the larger Icons and screen, similair to CM 4.3 so I didn't leave it long enough to test...
4.3 CM 4.3 black screen wake almost constant / black screen on while charging... also didn't last long to really test everything.
I am down the river if I want this to just go away. I have installed all these ROM on a completey clean formated SD card each time
I'm sticking with SlimBean as it has the looks and reacts like I expect my phone to. After doing some more searching and after a little time has passed for more 4.3 development there may be a kernel that will work better for me.
Oh here is another dead end I've found... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2185747&page=3 [KERNEL] Fixed the flickering screen problem,CM10,CM10.1,SENSE3.6 4.0 4.1 That goes no where...

wifi
WiFi is the biggest culprit for the random screen wakes. I've just been living with it since I dig the slimbean 4.3 ROM so much. Thought I might pop back on here to make some closure. I worked on removing some apk's from the already minimal gapps I installed and will soon start a separate thread on just that. As long as after searching I don't find the same info I figured out.

I think you've got the screen flicker bug.
Try flashing the .69 kernel, it claims to stop the flicker.
Also I know it's got something to do with the WiFi. I know a little about it though.
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thanks for the response
N_otori0us_ said:
I think you've got the screen flicker bug.
Try flashing the .69 kernel, it claims to stop the flicker.
Also I know it's got something to do with the WiFi. I know a little about it though.
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I see you all over the place when it comes to Glacier threads. Today at work I was searching around for a download link. I read through a ton of other ROMS threads hoping it was buried in the comments somewhere. So far I only turned up and old thread with a dead link and a couple of other threads you mentioning to other people to download the .69 KERNEL which I am guessing the full version number is 3.0.69, if it's not then there may be my first problem in finding the link...
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this is the main thread I keep finding, you have so many other kernels on there
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=43983635&highlight=+69#post43983635

I have a little idea about the screen flicker.
A member called zyGh0st told me. I've pmed Elgin but no response.
I'll pm coderzs too Lil.
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reading about kernals
N_otori0us_ said:
I have a little idea about the screen flicker.
A member called zyGh0st told me. I've pmed Elgin but no response.
I'll pm coderzs too Lil.
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All the Kernels in the Glacier Bible page you have been keeping up seem old. I'm nervous to try one since they obviously seem like they won't work. I'm game to try what ever and post on here my progress so if anyone else stumbles upon the issue they can guide their way through it.
I've been searching "kernel 3.0.69", "kernels 4.3 roms", "jb rom kernel", "4.3 jb kernel", sometimes including the term "glacier" or "MT4G" with little to no luck between XDA and just google itself. I always just find ROMS that just mention the kernel but have no downloads.

Reading your older posts I see that youve already tried the kernel.
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K is for kernel
N_otori0us_ said:
Reading your older posts I see that youve already tried the kernel.
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I tried 3.0.64 kernel, not this mysterious .69 kernel you have mentioned. If you have a link or mirror of it I'll be glad to give it a go.
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Found how you added the 2 kernels to the Bible page, I just flashed .64 again and I'm nothing but bootloops. I'll give .62 a chance since now I'll have to re-flash Slim.
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make the double bootloops with either of those 2 kernels. I waited like 5 minutes, restarted the phone to see if it would boot and it just stayed on the slim splash screen. Of course I wiped dalvik and cache before installing either.

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addiction
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Oh yes, I head that already downloaded on the SD but the name CM_SENSE made me think it was a ROM not a kernel. The .66 kernel link is dead, but the .58 flashed & works but there is still the flicker on 4.22 SlimBean. 4.22 is so lame compared to 4.3. Even if there wasn't a flicker on 4.22 I don't think I'd keep it. Those big ICONS are just too much. I think that's why I like Carbon also. Anywho...
My addiction to messing with my phone is always in conflict with work. As if I don't have enough problem solving to deal with outside of cell phones.
I am going to try out the recovery I see in your signature, Recovery : 4EXT 1.0.0.5 RC8, just to see if it makes a difference. If you have the same phone without the same problem I must then eliminate the different variables to find the true problem. I found a "how to" and am either going to put in the time in a couple of hours or tonight. Then I'm going to start the rounds of testing ROMS / KERNELS all over again and I'll post my findings here.
I appreciate the back and forth, I actually got a can't thank anymore message because I used up my 8 yesterday~

Living with it
I've been just living with the screen flash. The ROM is just to sweet to give up. At some point if there it a completely stable 4.3 I may upgrade.
On a regular work day I don't have any available WIFI, so I toggle it off then reboot the phone every morning. I usually get a random screen flash everytime I manually lock / turn the screen off and that's it. With WIFI on I get random flashes at random rates and for random lengths.
Playing music invokes these random black screen wakes also, I've stuck to my old blackberry as my MP3 player...I know that statement seems extemely wrong and against all sciences, but the 9780 bold works perfect as a music player. They had the long-press song skip in the volume button well before anyone added it to Android.
If ever I find the correct ROM / KERNEL combination, or someone else figures out the problem and I find it, I will post it here. This winter I am going to get more into understanding & compiling roms + digging through code so maybe I'll find it myself...ha!

tonyMEGAphone said:
I've been just living with the screen flash. The ROM is just to sweet to give up. At some point if there it a completely stable 4.3 I may upgrade.
On a regular work day I don't have any available WIFI, so I toggle it off then reboot the phone every morning. I usually get a random screen flash everytime I manually lock / turn the screen off and that's it. With WIFI on I get random flashes at random rates and for random lengths.
Playing music invokes these random black screen wakes also, I've stuck to my old blackberry as my MP3 player...I know that statement seems extemely wrong and against all sciences, but the 9780 bold works perfect as a music player. They had the long-press song skip in the volume button well before anyone added it to Android.
If ever I find the correct ROM / KERNEL combination, or someone else figures out the problem and I find it, I will post it here. This winter I am going to get more into understanding & compiling roms + digging through code so maybe I'll find it myself...ha!
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Have fun man, and If you ever need help or guidance just tell us, we'll be here