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[tip][GSM][ICS][GB][confirmed] Extra 130mb storage for apps

u guys using ics roms and need some extra space for system apps?
Requirements: must have flashed Neo L ftf or GB ftf modded by cosmicdan for miui Australia. This is to enable vendor partition.
Go to system/vendor and add app folder (if not already there) u can add any app that u want (system, user, even lwp). This partition has about 130mb of unused memory.
I tried this on stock 4.0.3, 4.0.4 and 2.3.4 Dont know about cyanogen.
so here is how/where the apps go.
quoting cosmicdan
Vendor/appslog is it's own partition but it's gets mounted to the system/vendor folder. Stock R800 has partition order (1) system, (2) userdata, (3) unused (including vendor/appslog) (4) cache:
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mtdparts=msm_nand:[email protected](system),[email protected](userdata),[email protected](cache),[email protected](boot),[email protected](appslog)
you can see his answer and a rom using unused space here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32062537
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gopin said:
u guys using ics roms and need some extra space for system apps?
Go to system/vendor and add app folder (if not already there) u can add any app that u want. It'll give u about 100mb.
I tried this on stock 4.0.3 and 4.0.4. Dont know about cyanogen.
Mods. Please move if in wrong section.
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but this doesn't give you extra space does it? Just the same system storage as it's in /storage
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It just does not count against system or data. Try it u'll see.
I dont know exactly which partition it uses.
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gopin said:
It just does not count against system or data. Try it u'll see.
I dont know exactly which partition it uses.
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It still uses the same exact space. All it does is "trick" the phone into thinking there is more memory when in actuality there isn't. Take it from a developer that has been doing this since android came out, THIS ISN'T REAL.

Cool.
Im no dev, so I cant argue, but it allows me to install more system apps. Wallpapers and ringtones.
I have 96 mb free In system vendor. And 65 mb free in system.
Currently using customized xdark v2 Rom. Added some Xperia gx apps, live and regular wallpapers, ringtones, forget what else.
The stock neo L 4.0.4 fw uses this folder for many system apps. If Sony uses it why not us?
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agraceful said:
It still uses the same exact space. All it does is "trick" the phone into thinking there is more memory when in actuality there isn't. Take it from a developer that has been doing this since android came out, THIS ISN'T REAL.
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So I was correct
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See how system/vendor is different from storage? Look at the bar in the ss.
Trick or not it works. When u move apps there, it frees up space in system storage, so you can throw more things in there. Dont believe me? Try it.
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gopin said:
See how system/vendor is different from storage? Look at the bar in the ss.
Trick or not it works. When u move apps there, it frees up space in system storage, so you can throw more things in there. Dont believe me? Try it.
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I guess you don't quite understand how the android OS works. It does not free up anything, it only allows you to think it does. Please do some research before posting.
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So I was correct
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Yes, you are.

You are right. I dont know anything about android. Like many here, i'm learning from devs like u.
I'm most likely using the wrong terms too, so I dont think i'm making myself clear.
But thanks for looking. :beer:
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gopin said:
You are right. I dont know anything about android. Like many here, i'm learning from devs like u.
I'm most likely using the wrong terms too, so I dont think i'm making myself clear.
But thanks for looking. :beer:
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you clear to me , but this doesn't give more space.
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Maybe I see your point now. No it does not give you extra space like your mod with ftf. It is just a folder that does not get used by custom roms (zip flashing does not add anything there. Therefore, face unlock issues by many users. And cwm recovery does not back it ip either probably because it is not in the system partition?)
But the folder is there mostly empty.
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gopin said:
Maybe I see your point now. No it does not give you extra space like your mod with ftf. It is just a folder that does not get used by custom roms (zip flashing does not add anything there. Therefore, face unlock issues by many users. And cwm recovery does not back it ip either probably because it is not in the system partition?)
But the folder is there mostly empty.
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fyi its not my ftf i just reposted it
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Totally missed the credit
But u get the idea right?
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edited op!
I knew I wasn't going nuts. its real and it works!
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I don't seem to have that folder/partition on my phone...I use the R800x

maddog00 said:
I don't seem to have that folder/partition on my phone...
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use root explorer of your choice. navigate to system/vendor and add folder named app. it should look like system/vendor/app. set permission 755. rwxr-xr-x and you are done. add apps manually and set permission 644 rw-r--r--
Edit: interesting, I did not imagine that Verizon users would get a different partition layout, thanks for the info!
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Hmm, I notice that my system/app folder and my data/app folder on the phone have two different amounts of memory that are used and free. Therefore, two separate partitions? Forcing apps into system apps would free up space on the other partition...That's what this is all based on, right?

maddog00 said:
Hmm, I notice that my system/app folder and my data/app folder on the phone have two different amounts of memory that are used and free. Therefore, two separate partitions? Forcing apps into system apps would free up space on the other partition...That's what this is all based on, right?
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right, vendor is a third partition that gets mounted onto system. therefore, adding stuff there frees up memory from the other two. system and data.
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Using markphyton stock ics and both folders half the exact space.

kenchi27 said:
Using markphyton stock ics and both folders half the exact space.
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I just flash that Rom last night and I had like 14kb free in system. (the fix 1 he has wasnt flashing cause of full memory) After moving stuff I have now 50mb and added more stuff like gtalk, walkman by thilina c, Xperia s v2 apps thats flying around in neo thread, mmmm forgot what else.
What root explorer r u using? For me the best is rom toolbox cause it shows u the available space. For each partition.
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[Q] App 2 SD

I would like to save files for big games like gameloft etc. on my external sd card. But this isn't possible. On the S3 you could relize this with directory bind or Foldermount, but on the s4 it doesn't work.
any ideas?

That's becouse your device might not be rooted.
When there is an easy root for the s4 and you are rooted directory bind will work.

No, my device is rooted with Su and busybox installed!

Well I started testing with directorybind. It doesn't work for some reason. I'm rooted, using the same method as on my note 2 but for some it doesn't work? Wth?
Anyone having the same issue?
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Sammath said:
Well I started testing with directorybind. It doesn't work for some reason. I'm rooted, using the same method as on my note 2 but for some it doesn't work? Wth?
Anyone having the same issue?
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I've got a similar problem. I used my own scripts on an SD card and got Script Manager to execute them on boot. Now SM does not run the mount commands.....not from the SD card and not from /data with correct permissions either. I can ssh into the device and run them just fine but SM can't to it. It DOES execute a mkdir and a sleep command as the end of the script so the script runs WITHOUT the mount commands....not sure what to make of that but could be related.

Did the two people who rooted above tty folder mount?
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Try 'gl to sd' from the play store
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Wish you luck getting this too work. Google removed this specifically.

gavinfabl said:
Wish you luck getting this too work. Google removed this specifically.
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Why? Because they like phones with ridiculously low amounts of internal storage?

Black Death said:
I would like to save files for big games like gameloft etc. on my external sd card. But this isn't possible. On the S3 you could relize this with directory bind or Foldermount, but on the s4 it doesn't work.
any ideas?
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Use "GL to SD" (free on market)

dedichthui said:
Use "GL to SD" (free on market)
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I don't think ANYTHING is working on the SGS4 at the moment. Devs are working on this. Thanks for nothing Google and Samsung...

The dev of Foldermount is working on the issue.
Tried that app and that app actually works until you reboot your phone and then it's gone again for some reason
I would settle with an internal to sd swap like on the s3 and note2.
But that ain't done yet so we'll have to wait.
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Think I will wait to see if this works before rooting
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topcat07 said:
Think I will wait to see if this works before rooting
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Can't see why. I need root just to get my TB backups back onto the phone

ewok666 said:
Can't see why. I need root just to get my TB backups back onto the phone
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I only use adfree and this so not worth it just yet
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topcat07 said:
I only use adfree and this so not worth it just yet
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That was the reason for me and the SPB Shell but psssst

Nexus 4 16GB Actual Storage size

My internal storage reads a 12.3 GB size, now is that including the size of the OS or not? Because after formatting my SD i have a little under 7GB available. So is the missing 5GB or so for OS? Meaning the true size of the SD is 12.3GB? That seems awfully low, even after realizing the promised storage size is always optimistic from the producer. Anyone got the answer?
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olsywolsy said:
My internal storage reads a 12.3 GB size, now is that including the size of the OS or not? Because after formatting my SD i have a little under 7GB available. So is the missing 5GB or so for OS? Meaning the true size of the SD is 12.3GB? That seems awfully low, even after realizing the promised storage size is always optimistic from the producer. Anyone got the answer?
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That sounds about right... My 211k Nexus 4 16 GB shows 12.92 GB of free space running CM10.1 nighlies, franco.kernel, .27 radio, and CWM recovery

Should look like so..
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Do without apps/pics/bids etc you should still have around 12.8 available space to be used.
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Here's mine, which in my eyes doesn't quite add up
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olsywolsy said:
Here's mine, which in my eyes doesn't quite add up
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How did you format your SD? Do you have any ROM backups?

right I just ran SD MAID and it says 9.2GB is used in folders /storage/emulated/0 and /storage/emulated/legacy - both are exact duplicates of the same ****! After googling it people seem to have the same issue! Know which one is safe to delete? I'm running AOKP milestone 1 if that helps
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olsywolsy said:
right I just ran SD MAID and it says 9.2GB is used in folders /storage/emulated/0 and /storage/emulated/legacy - both are exact duplicates of the same ****! After googling it people seem to have the same issue! Know which one is safe to delete? I'm running AOKP milestone 1 if that helps
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Both /storage/emulated/legacy and /storage/emulated/0 points to the same location so you are seeing the same files in both locations. SD Maid seems buggy if it cannot detect symlinks properly (maybe there is an option for that app so it doesn't follow symlinks).

Okay, heres a screenshot of SD MAID. I have folders sdcard/ - storage/emulated/legacy - storage/emulated/0 and storage/sdcard0 all containing the same stuff and the memory I'm missing is exactly that of which I'm already using up so it must be duplicating everything elsewhere, but in which directory?
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olsywolsy said:
Okay, heres a screenshot of SD MAID. I have folders sdcard/ - storage/emulated/legacy - storage/emulated/0 and storage/sdcard0 all containing the same stuff and the memory I'm missing is exactly that of which I'm already using up so it must be duplicating everything elsewhere, but in which directory?
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Be careful deleting either. I had a similar issue after using an old version of Astro File Manager. I think they may be "Hard Links", not "Symbolic Links". I ended up backing up my SD data, and did a Factory Reset, which formats the SD partition. All is well now.

It's a known issue that it can sometimes think you have 8GB as opposed to 16GB and the only way to fix it is to flash the factory image...there is a thread on here somewhere about it

EddyOS said:
It's a known issue that it can sometimes think you have 8GB as opposed to 16GB and the only way to fix it is to flash the factory image...there is a thread on here somewhere about it
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I would recommend doing this!
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Okay I'll give this a go and report back. Factory reset via setting>backup & reset >factory data reset, right?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2033692
This thread? I shall give it a go. Do I need to flash back to the stock ROM to do this or can I simply flash my recovery back to stock do the factory reset and then flash CM recovery again?
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olsywolsy said:
Okay I'll give this a go and report back. Factory reset via setting>backup & reset >factory data reset, right?
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I think were talking about 2 different issues. You phone knows it has 16GB, it's just the files are taking twice the space.
Yes, setting>backup & reset >factory data reset was what worked for me.
The other issue was when flashing custom ROM's, on a 16GB model, your phone became a 8GB model.

So you don't believe I have this issue of a 16Gb model believing its an 8Gb model? But instead just because my filed are duplicated?
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Holy ****, found the culprit. I had 3 nandroid backups taking up 5.6 GB. Never realised they were located outside of the sdcard. I have 8.somethingGB free now. Apologies for wasting time! Thanks anyway
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They are on the SD card, just not normally visible in Windows. If you go to /data/media/clockworkmod in your favourite root explorer (e.g. ES) you'll find them there (or you can delete them through your custom recovery)

Yes I meant not visible as opposed to not actually being present on the sdcard
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After factory reset I show a total available space of 12.92gb and with nothing loaded on the device it says 10.21gb available. Is this normal? I was under the impression that if the internal storage was wiped I should have pretty much all of the 12.92gb available for use due to the other 3 gb 13-16 being used for the actual system. What am I missing?
Thanks

[Q] Can't move my apps to a sd card

Hey
So I installed the newest official Samsung firmware which was suppose to allow moving my apps to my sd card. When I go to my apps I can see tge button that says "move to sd card". When I press it the app goes from the phones internal memory to the so called internal sd card which is the same in all s4's instead of the "extSdCard" what is the actual sd card I have.
Why those apps doesn't really go to the sd card and why would Samsung hype this newest update with that feature when it doesn't even work.
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Try using "DIRECTORY BIND"...
Its a third party app... Probably the only app that would actually do what u want...
Good luck!
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HassanM said:
Try using "DIRECTORY BIND"...
Its a third party app... Probably the only app that would actually do what u want...
Good luck!
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I know about directory mounting/folder syncing, but I'd really like to know if others have the same problem or is it just me? I'm going to ask about this from Samsung since they probably know better why they lied about this app2sd feature.
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District19 said:
I know about directory mounting/folder syncing, but I'd really like to know if others have the same problem or is it just me? I'm going to ask about this from Samsung since they probably know better why they lied about this app2sd feature.
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some apps do not support app 2 sd i.e : whatsapp antutu etc... its how it works.... im sure things will get better with newer android updates

Its moves the app only, not the data files.
If you still want to move the files, use foldermount.
Directory bind doesnt work anymore. Only foldermount has a patch to work around it.
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Sammath said:
Its moves the app only, not the data files.
If you still want to move the files, use foldermount.
Directory bind doesnt work anymore. Only foldermount has a patch to work around it.
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No, it doesn't even move the apps. I just said that in the first post. They just go to the internal "sd card" intead of the "extSdCard". I tried with every one of my apps so it's not about some apps not supporting app2sd.
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District19 said:
No, it doesn't even move the apps. I just said that in the first post. They just go to the internal "sd card" intead of the "extSdCard". I tried with every one of my apps so it's not about some apps not supporting app2sd.
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It's not about not supporting if it didn't support it the move to sd card button wouldn't have been highlighted so you are correct
I noticed the to get around I use folder mount to link large folders +(1gb)
I also have a second partition on my sd which I used in my last device for linking its only 1gb though but u can try that to if you like
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same problem
I just got my samsung galaxy s4 (GT-I9500) but it seems that it is impossible to move apps on SD card.
Android Version: 4.2.2
Baseband Version: I9500XXUAMDK
Build Number: JDQ39.I9500XXUAMDK
I also read some forums and learned that samsung already addressed this issue by making the upgrade or updates but unfortunately my phone is up-to-date already.
Can somebody please tell me when does the said update will come out here in Philippines? I believe there's a lot of S4 users who also has this trouble as our phones int. memory gets lower and lower. :crying:
thanks

The update will not save you much of any space, so I'm a bit surprised that people are still so fixated on it.
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Hi! How can i flash the updated firmware to have a *move to sd* option? Do i need to root my phone to do it?
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alvincris said:
Hi! How can i flash the updated firmware to have a *move to sd* option? Do i need to root my phone to do it?
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I see u are running the oldest firmware provided by Samsung and to be honest no one will know when u may get and update
Incase u wish to try new firmware
use the below link and download the firmware and flash it using odin
it wont affect ur warranty etc
http://samsung-updates.com/device/?id=GT-I9500

It just dont work ...
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I see u are running the oldest firmware provided by Samsung and to be honest no one will know when u may get and update
Incase u wish to try new firmware
use the below link and download the firmware and flash it using odin
it wont affect ur warranty etc
http://samsung-updates.com/device/?id=GT-I9500
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I have latest FW for my region (I9505XXUBMEA) whitch provide app to SD. But as someone say before, it dosnt work, it just move MB from phone to SD card on App info page but physicaly whole app is still on the same place on internet storage.
RR3 is only for ex. this is happen with every app i try.

HonZuna said:
I have latest FW for my region (I9505XXUBMEA) whitch provide app to SD. But as someone say before, it dosnt work, it just move MB from phone to SD card on App info page but physicaly whole app is still on the same place on internet storage.
RR3 is only for ex. this is happen with every app i try.
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Is working exactly as it should. Only the apk is moved. The bulk of the space is consumed by the app's data, which is not supposed the be moved by this "feature."
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najaboy said:
Is working exactly as it should. Only the apk is moved. The bulk of the space is consumed by the app's data, which is not supposed the be moved by this "feature."
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WTF ?! And what then is the point of this feature?

How to move entire apps to SD card.

Hi all!
I would like to move huge apps to my SD card now that I am rooted. (Forget the class number but it's high and it's a 16gb model)
I followed this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53428200&postcount=1
I downloaded the app off of the play store. When I go to any APP2SD app it still says my device is not supported. How do I go about doing this?

Check out "SDFix: KitKat Writable MicroSD"
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nextapp.sdfix
But you have to be rooted first for it to work. You're welcome. ??
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Droid_Evo_8 said:
Check out "SDFix: KitKat Writable MicroSD"
But you have to be rooted first for it to work. You're welcome. ??
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I know I said I installed that!!!!
What do I do after that? The APP2SD apps still won't move my apps to my sd card.
Had to remove your link to google play it wouldn't let me post it lol.

If by huge apps you mean games that have obb files, try foldermount..works for me.
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Droid_Evo_8 said:
Check out "SDFix: KitKat Writable MicroSD"
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nextapp.sdfix
But you have to be rooted first for it to work. You're welcome. ??
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so I used this app and when I rebooted the Galaxy S5 boot screen showed the lock icon (unlocked) with "Custom" written underneath it. don't suppose that's anything to be concerned about?

jackmei2 said:
so I used this app and when I rebooted the Galaxy S5 boot screen showed the lock icon (unlocked) with "Custom" written underneath it. don't suppose that's anything to be concerned about?
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Only if you plan to return your device. That let's Verizon know your rooted.
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amandconqueror said:
If by huge apps you mean games that have obb files, try foldermount..works for me.
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I tried using the app to mount the AC4 game/map browser. I'm not sure what it did but it didn't take it off internal storage.

I'm still looking for a way. For example the ACiV app only moves about 40 of the 200 mb. Those root app 2 sd cards don't seem to work.