I have had it with this phone... - Galaxy S III General (US Carriers)

Well I got the SGS3 a week ago and I have been messing with it, customizing it and trying to do everything that i know. I do like the phone but as far as it functions i am not crazy about it. I think I am returning it back!!!
1- can't get notifications on gmail (# of new emails that come in)
2- battery is worse than my old 3gs
3- most of my music can't play just skips (i have tried 4 different music apps)
4- issues with bluetooth dropping off.
Yea I came from Iphone and really wanted to keep this phone but i am literally at a point i am going to return it or sale it on ebay..

lostsoul565 said:
Well I got the SGS3 a week ago and I have been messing with it, customizing it and trying to do everything that i know to like this phone. I do like the phone but as far as it functions i am not crazy about it. I think I am returning it back!!!
1- can't get notifications on gmail (# of new emails that come in)
2- battery is worse than my old 3gs
3- most of my music can't play just skips (i have tried 4 different music apps)
4- issues with bluetooth dropping off.
Yea I came from Iphone and really wanted to keep this phone but i am literally at a point i am going to return it or sale it on ebay..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
1a.) Is your auto sync on?
1b.) Is Sync Gmail checked in the accounts?
2.) That's to be expected if you are pushing your phone to the limit. Bluetooth+max brightness+frequent syncs+LTE = bad battery life.
3.) Is the CPU being limited and/or are the music files compressed or corrupted? That could be the problem.
4.) I don't use bluetooth so I don't have any suggestions there. Try a reboot or changing the bluetooth settings.
|Trolling with a smile|

Sounds like you got a lemon. Mine has been flawless since I have had it. Haven't experienced any of those issues
Sent from my SPH-L710 using xda premium

Then why not just return it? You don't have to feel guilty or bad that just because its a very popular phone and many other people like it, that you don't either. Its your phone, you paid your money for it, you probably got locked into a contract for it. Why stick with something that makes you unhappy? I hope your next phone will give you better luck.

Go back to iPhone, your kind isn't welcome here.

Why not swap it for another what a turd gain some common sense.
Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2

Jamin13 said:
1a.) Is your auto sync on?
1b.) Is Sync Gmail checked in the accounts?
2.) That's to be expected if you are pushing your phone to the limit. Bluetooth+max brightness+frequent syncs+LTE = bad battery life.
3.) Is the CPU being limited and/or are the music files compressed or corrupted? That could be the problem.
4.) I don't use bluetooth so I don't have any suggestions there. Try a reboot or changing the bluetooth settings.
|Trolling with a smile|
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
1- yes syn on and yes gmail is checked.
2- i have it on power save, brightness is 1/2 bar only
3- all music files are good, i can hear them on my wifes iphone no issues, i can hear them on my 2 laptops and on other music players.
4- tried rebooting already.

I'd try a factory reset. If that doesn't work, at least try exchanging it.

Jamin13 said:
1a.) Is your auto sync on?
1b.) Is Sync Gmail checked in the accounts?
2.) That's to be expected if you are pushing your phone to the limit. Bluetooth+max brightness+frequent syncs+LTE = bad battery life.
3.) Is the CPU being limited and/or are the music files compressed or corrupted? That could be the problem.
4.) I don't use bluetooth so I don't have any suggestions there. Try a reboot or changing the bluetooth settings.
|Trolling with a smile|
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
aNYthing24 said:
I'd try a factory reset. If that doesn't work, at least try exchanging it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i think the phone just does not do what i want.

lostsoul565 said:
1- yes syn on and yes gmail is checked.
2- i have it on power save, brightness is 1/2 bar only
3- all music files are good, i can hear them on my wifes iphone no issues, i can hear them on my 2 laptops and on other music players.
4- tried rebooting already.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Turn power save off. I have none of those issues you claim.
Sent from my SPH-L710 using xda premium

Ascertion said:
Go back to iPhone, your kind isn't welcome here.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
A little harsh but i agree with the core concept that the iOS is very differnet from the android platform and would seem very foreign however i do think it is a little funny that you waited to switch from the iPhone for an android phone with the familiar "Home" button

lostsoul565 said:
Well I got the SGS3 a week ago and I have been messing with it, customizing it and trying to do everything that i know. I do like the phone but as far as it functions i am not crazy about it. I think I am returning it back!!!
1- can't get notifications on gmail (# of new emails that come in)
2- battery is worse than my old 3gs
3- most of my music can't play just skips (i have tried 4 different music apps)
4- issues with bluetooth dropping off.
Yea I came from Iphone and really wanted to keep this phone but i am literally at a point i am going to return it or sale it on ebay..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
1. You want # of email badge on GMAIL icon? or you want # of GMAIL icon in the notification area? Both can be done ... for # of email badge look into using Nova Launcher. In the settings area you would see an option to enable it (cost some $$$ for the pro version for this setting). For # of GMAIL in notification bar ... only ROM I have seen do it is unofficial AOKP build for SGS3. you can try that as well. I am not sure about the stock samsung touch wiz launcher. I rooted and start flashing custom ROMs within a couple of hours of purchasing this phone
2. One thing you have to understand is that battery life is not a one size fit all for android. It heavily depends on your usage and what settings or background processes you have enabled. I know coming from iPhone you want to put all kind of widgets on the home screen and enable all functions like BT, Wifi and GPS etc like iPhone but Android is different. It allows you to have fine grain control over software as well as hardware settings. You should be getting decent battery life (i.e. moderate to heavy use should give you around 16 hrs with 2.5 hrs of screen on time) if not then try to remove some widgets etc. iPhone has built in power management for all these hardwares and you cannot mess with it. But in Android its open to you to change it to your preferences.
3. what kind of music files you have? mp3? FLAC? its possible that music files are corrupted when you try to copy over files from iPhone to SGS3. Take another look and verify that all files are intact and not corrupt. There is nothing wrong with the Sammy music player ... you can also try google play music app from Google Play. But this shouldn't be a problem of music player. Can you try to download another fresh music file from market or another store to see if that works?
4. Bluetooth shouldn't drop connection unless you move out of its range. In close proximity it should stay connected. If it doesn't then you have a defective phone. My first handset had some problems with Bluetooth because every time I tried playing music or pdocast over bluetooth it made cracking noise. I exchanged the handset and now there is no problem.
Hope this helps.

lostsoul565 said:
1- yes syn on and yes gmail is checked.
2- i have it on power save, brightness is 1/2 bar only
3- all music files are good, i can hear them on my wifes iphone no issues, i can hear them on my 2 laptops and on other music players.
4- tried rebooting already.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i think you have a lemon..i dont have any of your issues
have you tried poweramp?

{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}

I'm quite impressed with the battery life on mine. One thing that may help is to use black or dark wallpapers because this type of screen uses less power for black.
But I would definitely take it back and try another one as it sounds like the particular one you got is defective.

Ive got one and i love it. Try returning it for another one or reflashing back to stock.
My S3 has none of the issues you described
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using xda app-developers app

Your iTunes music might be DRM protected
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using xda premium

Going to have to agree with everyone else here. You either got a lemon or have issues with user error or maybe a little of both. I don't have any of those issues either and my gs3 runs circles around my wife's iphone 4s, battery life included.
She is actually taking over my old gs2 next week as that phone kicks hers in the seat too.

zombieplanalpha said:
A little harsh but i agree with the core concept that the iOS is very differnet from the android platform and would seem very foreign however i do think it is a little funny that you waited to switch from the iPhone for an android phone with the familiar "Home" button
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
thanks zombie I will reset back to factory and try everything again. I was actually waiting for the iphone 5 but took too long and the reviews on the sgs3 were so good i had to try it for myself.

enaybee said:
1. You want # of email badge on GMAIL icon? or you want # of GMAIL icon in the notification area? Both can be done ... for # of email badge look into using Nova Launcher. In the settings area you would see an option to enable it (cost some $$$ for the pro version for this setting). For # of GMAIL in notification bar ... only ROM I have seen do it is unofficial AOKP build for SGS3. you can try that as well. I am not sure about the stock samsung touch wiz launcher. I rooted and start flashing custom ROMs within a couple of hours of purchasing this phone
2. One thing you have to understand is that battery life is not a one size fit all for android. It heavily depends on your usage and what settings or background processes you have enabled. I know coming from iPhone you want to put all kind of widgets on the home screen and enable all functions like BT, Wifi and GPS etc like iPhone but Android is different. It allows you to have fine grain control over software as well as hardware settings. You should be getting decent battery life (i.e. moderate to heavy use should give you around 16 hrs with 2.5 hrs of screen on time) if not then try to remove some widgets etc. iPhone has built in power management for all these hardwares and you cannot mess with it. But in Android its open to you to change it to your preferences.
3. what kind of music files you have? mp3? FLAC? its possible that music files are corrupted when you try to copy over files from iPhone to SGS3. Take another look and verify that all files are intact and not corrupt. There is nothing wrong with the Sammy music player ... you can also try google play music app from Google Play. But this shouldn't be a problem of music player. Can you try to download another fresh music file from market or another store to see if that works?
4. Bluetooth shouldn't drop connection unless you move out of its range. In close proximity it should stay connected. If it doesn't then you have a defective phone. My first handset had some problems with Bluetooth because every time I tried playing music or pdocast over bluetooth it made cracking noise. I exchanged the handset and now there is no problem.
Hope this helps.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for taking the time to explain and not telling me iphone user's are not welcome like that other TOOL. anyway I did a factory reset and the music issue is resolved. i will look into nova rom or might as well wait till the jelly been is stable. I still have another 3 weeks or so left so lets see how things go.I think once i root and flash a rom or 2 battery should be better.

Related

Such a let down..

I've had this phone nearly a month now and it's been pretty rubbish! It's done a couple of cool things, but nothing has been great. There's been bugs in absolutely everything. I'm on T-mobile (MDA Vario II) and running the 1.21 ROM Version.
Firstly, the active sync is rubbish! On Windows XP. It's extremely tempremental.. Some days it'll work fine and connect, others (most days!) it won't work. Windows will make the "doo-doo" noise to say that a device has been connected, but active sync won't connect. What rubbish.
It decides to not receive messages, until I open the Messages app. Also, it sometimes likes to send a message, then when I open the Messages app later on, it'll resend the last sent message and notify me.
MSN Messenger. Buggy! I hate the fact it tells me whenever someone comes online, flashes up while I'm in the middle of typing and I have to click Ignore to get it to go away. But there's no way of turning this off (to my knowledge!). Also, it sometimes likes to randomly open the on-screen keyboard, or only show messages in a tiny amount of the screen.
The camera is disgraceful. It's so slow that its basically un-usable. You have to point it at the object and wait quite a while for it's sensor to pick up the light, and most of the pictures come out over-exposed anyway! Also, the lag on the photos is so long most photos blur or the subject has moved by the time it takes it!
Sounds. The fact that I can't have it not beep every time I send a message, but have it so it makes a sound when my alarm clock goes off! That's stupid. Also, it's rather difficult to hit the button to bring up the box for changing the volumes. And why isn't there a seperate ringer volume and a phone volume? I'd like it so I can have a low volume when I'm playing games like Worms, but still have an ok ringer volume!
It likes to randomly connect to GPRS. Good thing I have unlimited data usage!
Today Screen. I can't really put anything on it. It's decided it won't let me put much on it except Calendar, Tasks and a couple others. Why can't I put Pocket MSN back on the today screen?!
It's stupid that to actually make this a decent product, you have to use so much 3rd party software! spb pocket plus sorts quite a few issues with the phone out, and gives a much more usable today screen, but I really don't want to pay 20 dollars for it! (But I guess I'll have to..)
The phone needs so much work on the software to get this up to a good standard. It has the hardware there, just wm5 for it is rubbish!
Sorry about my incredibly grumpy post. I'm just a bit annoyed with my phone today! Am I actually able to upgrade the ROM Version to something higher (1.35?) but on a different network other than UK T-mobile and it'll still work alright with the sim card? I may try it on the next time active sync decides to work!
Then please get rid of the device and stop bugging us...
I'm very happy with my Hermes and I'm keeping it.
jamiepyrite said:
I've had this phone nearly a month now and it's been pretty rubbish! It's done a couple of cool things, but nothing has been great. There's been bugs in absolutely everything. I'm on T-mobile (MDA Vario II) and running the 1.21 ROM Version.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wow! It sounds like you're really having an awful time trying to keep up. It's really too bad the telco providers don't let you know the level of technical expertise you will need to be able to master the various devices out today. My Cingular 8525 does need some constant care and feeding, but being somewhat of a techie, I actually enjoy this kind of activity ... look at it as playtime, and wish I had more of it. I've looked through your previous posts, and I see that you haven't really been having any fun with your device. What a shame!
jamiepyrite said:
Firstly, the active sync is rubbish! On Windows XP. It's extremely tempremental.. Some days it'll work fine and connect, others (most days!) it won't work. Windows will make the "doo-doo" noise to say that a device has been connected, but active sync won't connect. What rubbish.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sounds to me like you have a bad sync cable ... at least that's the first thing I'd look at.
jamiepyrite said:
It decides to not receive messages, until I open the Messages app. Also, it sometimes likes to send a message, then when I open the Messages app later on, it'll resend the last sent message and notify me.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hmmm. I've had mine for about two months now. It's my first PDA device since a PALM V about eight years ago. I have never experienced this. Might be due to some conflict between apps you might've installed/uninstalled, or other toying around with things that are not completely understood. Maybe it's time to do a hard reset (hold down left and right softkeys and press the stylus into the hole on the bottom, then open the slideout keyboard and press R and then SPACEBAR) and see if that fixes things. Then read the manual, and be very careful about what changes you make and software you install.
jamiepyrite said:
MSN Messenger. Buggy! I hate the fact it tells me whenever someone comes online, flashes up while I'm in the middle of typing and I have to click Ignore to get it to go away. But there's no way of turning this off (to my knowledge!). Also, it sometimes likes to randomly open the on-screen keyboard, or only show messages in a tiny amount of the screen.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I can't say I actually played with Messenger that much. I must admit that I LIKED when it told me that a friend had logged-in, but I guess this is a subjective thing. There are other options to using the installed MSN Messenger, though. You can use one of the online versions and see if those are more to your liking, or you can DL several other options. You just need to look around the Internet. There are free ones and ones you need to pay for.
jamiepyrite said:
The camera is disgraceful. It's so slow that its basically un-usable. You have to point it at the object and wait quite a while for it's sensor to pick up the light, and most of the pictures come out over-exposed anyway! Also, the lag on the photos is so long most photos blur or the subject has moved by the time it takes it!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well ... yeah .... it's a 2MP phone camera. As you can see in my signature, I typically use a digital SLR for serious photos, so I didn't expect much from the onboard one. Still, using some common photography techniques and a bit of practice, I thought the darned thing did pretty well ... better than an old Oly digital I used to use.
jamiepyrite said:
Sounds. The fact that I can't have it not beep every time I send a message, but have it so it makes a sound when my alarm clock goes off! That's stupid. Also, it's rather difficult to hit the button to bring up the box for changing the volumes. And why isn't there a seperate ringer volume and a phone volume? I'd like it so I can have a low volume when I'm playing games like Worms, but still have an ok ringer volume!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Mine doesn't beep when I send messages, and DOES make sounds when I set my Alarm Clock. It even reminds me to turn up the volume if it happens to be off when I set the alarm. Again, maybe it's time to hard reset, or maybe look through the manual.
jamiepyrite said:
It likes to randomly connect to GPRS. Good thing I have unlimited data usage!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, Unlimited Data Plans are great with these phones, especially for when the phone automatically determines that it can give you a high-speed connection and seamlessly turns those connections on for you. If you don't like this feature, there are FREE programs you can get from this very site that lock you into GSM mode.
jamiepyrite said:
Today Screen. I can't really put anything on it. It's decided it won't let me put much on it except Calendar, Tasks and a couple others. Why can't I put Pocket MSN back on the today screen?!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't see how this relates to the phone, frankly. This is WM5, and ANY phone sporting that OS is going to be the same story. Maybe you'd prefer something Symbian, or maybe something more RAZR'ish. But the beautiful thing about WM5 is the fact that you can add on other apps to configure it the way you choose, which is more difficult in Symbian, and impossible with RAZR's.
jamiepyrite said:
It's stupid that to actually make this a decent product, you have to use so much 3rd party software! spb pocket plus sorts quite a few issues with the phone out, and gives a much more usable today screen, but I really don't want to pay 20 dollars for it! (But I guess I'll have to..)
The phone needs so much work on the software to get this up to a good standard. It has the hardware there, just wm5 for it is rubbish!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, yeah ... hmmm, you might have to pay for some of the nice add-ons. I guess PC's and laptops are also guilty of this, in that, if you don't like the way they come out-of-the-box, you MIGHT need to buy something else.
In my own opinion (not that it matters much), I plunked down $499US on the phone, which represented a significant markdown because I agreed to have it sport Cingular logos. If I could afford such a device, paying $20.00US for a decent piece of software to go with it isn't going to kill my budget. It's one of the things that should have been considered prior to purchasing the phone, I guess.
jamiepyrite said:
Sorry about my incredibly grumpy post. I'm just a bit annoyed with my phone today!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Seeing your posting history, it seems that this forum is the one you dump on whenever you're having a day like this. Maybe you should email HTC, T-Mobile and M$, instead, since they seem to be the source of your wrath. The folks on this forum attempt to help people (and very often succeed beautifully). They don't make the devices, the plans, nor the OS's that seem to be giving you problems.
jamiepyrite said:
Am I actually able to upgrade the ROM Version to something higher (1.35?) but on a different network other than UK T-mobile and it'll still work alright with the sim card? I may try it on the next time active sync decides to work!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Jamie ... no offense, but if you can't figure out how to make your alarm clock make sound, I don't think you should be toying with upgrading the ROM stuff just yet. Maybe, as I said earlier, this just isn't the device for you. RAZR's are really cool looking, and you can probably find some games and ringtones for them, if you're willing to pay some $$$.
Kindest regards,
I've had this phone nearly a month now and it's been pretty rubbish! It's done a couple of cool things, but nothing has been great. There's been bugs in absolutely everything. I'm on T-mobile (MDA Vario II) and running the 1.21 ROM Version.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've also got a Vario II and I'm running the same ROM and Radio it came with.
Firstly, the active sync is rubbish! On Windows XP. It's extremely tempremental.. Some days it'll work fine and connect, others (most days!) it won't work. Windows will make the "doo-doo" noise to say that a device has been connected, but active sync won't connect. What rubbish.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
ActiveSync has always worked fine for me.
It decides to not receive messages, until I open the Messages app. Also, it sometimes likes to send a message, then when I open the Messages app later on, it'll resend the last sent message and notify me.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Never happened to me. I receive all my messages perfectly normally.
MSN Messenger. Buggy! I hate the fact it tells me whenever someone comes online, flashes up while I'm in the middle of typing and I have to click Ignore to get it to go away. But there's no way of turning this off (to my knowledge!). Also, it sometimes likes to randomly open the on-screen keyboard, or only show messages in a tiny amount of the screen.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The contact online alert is annoying, I agree there but as for the random opening of the keyboard and it showing messages on a tiny amount of screen...well it's never happened to me and I use it all the time.
The camera is disgraceful. It's so slow that its basically un-usable. You have to point it at the object and wait quite a while for it's sensor to pick up the light, and most of the pictures come out over-exposed anyway! Also, the lag on the photos is so long most photos blur or the subject has moved by the time it takes it!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
True...although HTC aren't known for their cameras.
Sounds. The fact that I can't have it not beep every time I send a message, but have it so it makes a sound when my alarm clock goes off! That's stupid. Also, it's rather difficult to hit the button to bring up the box for changing the volumes. And why isn't there a seperate ringer volume and a phone volume? I'd like it so I can have a low volume when I'm playing games like Worms, but still have an ok ringer volume!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't get any beep when I send a message and my alarm goes off fine. And maybe I've misunderstood here (sorry if I have) but there are two seperate volume controls...one for the system and one for the ringer and you can set their levels individually. Sometimes the program takes over all of the volume controls together...but's that's a gripe with the program not the device.
I always keep my system volume low but my ringer volume on medium.
It likes to randomly connect to GPRS. Good thing I have unlimited data usage!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Only time it has ever made a connection whatsoever is when I have told it so through my Google Mail account retrieval settings. Otherwise mine has no reason to connect and doesn't.
Today Screen. I can't really put anything on it. It's decided it won't let me put much on it except Calendar, Tasks and a couple others. Why can't I put Pocket MSN back on the today screen?!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No idea but it all works fine for me.
I love my baby...
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Your points are well made.
What I like about this forum is that folks who disagree with another poster, take the time to to explain why they disagree. Of course the original poster was good enough to go into detail about why he was feeling "grumpy" today.
Keep it up guys. It gladens my heart to see how much more civilised, we are, compared with the drivel I see on some other sites.
Mike
Jamie, there are lots of people on here ready and willing (and some even able) to help you sort your machine out.
What I would suggest, is that you do a hard reset to get back to a clean machine, and then every time you get a problem, search this forum to see if it has come up before. If not, or if you're not sure on the solution, post up and people will help you. I know it's a bit of a pain if you were hoping for an 'out of the box' fully functioning machine. PPCs are just not like that, but they are incredibly versatile and powerful, there's just a learning curve to them.
Start again.
I have a Vario II with the same rom and my experience with the phone is exactly as per Athiqueahmed's post. I haven't experienced the problems you have at all and I have had my phone several months now.
The only time my phone has gone wrong is when I have decided to 'tweak' things with my limited tech knowledge and ultimately done it wrong or installed buggy 3rd party software
Assuming you are operating the phone correctly and not creating these issues yourself by adjusting registry settings etc.. then, if a hard reset does not solve the problems, I would suggest that you get T-mobile to look at it to see if it's faulty and do it quick because as far as I am aware T-mobile UK do a straight swap within 30 days if your phone is faulty, after that it is standard repair service.
I'm not going to list all your complaints but I can say that the Cingular 8525 I have has a really impressive camera for a cell phone!
Not that I think that's the most important feature for a phone. It just happens to be the best one I've seen to date.
And I've had tons of fun looking for and installing all sorts of Apps. I do like this phone.
Wow, thanks very much all of you for the excellent responses! This really is an incredibly helpful and friendly forum here
Reading back on what I said, I think I came over rather harsh about the device. I do love it to pieces and it's a fantastic piece of equipment, I'm just having a bit of a hard time adapting to it from being so used to Nokia Symbian.
I've now got spb pocket plus 3 and it's great. It's making me much happier about the phone, being able to do everything I want from the today screen!
About the alarm clock, etc. problem: When I go into Settings>Sounds & Notifications, the third tick box down is Notifications (Alarms, reminders). If I have this unticked, it disables sound for when it says "Message Sent" but also disables the sound for the alarm clock. I just tried disabling it then going onto the alarm clock and checking the ringtone for the alarm clock and it said it won't sound unless Notifications is enabled. But, if you go into the Notifcations tab, there isn't an option to change the tone for Text Message Sent. Only MMS Message Sent.
I'll look into 3rd party applications more when I have the time, I'll also try a different USB cable to see if it makes a difference
And as computer illiterate as my first post makes me sound (I'm quite good with computers, honest!) I can manage flashing the ROMs. I've done it alot with my iriver H320 I'm just curious as to whether it's ok to use a ROM that isn't made by T-mobile with the T-mobile SIM. Flashing a fancy Mp3 Player is a bit different!
Thanks
Thanks for the advice guys. It's a great help!
Before you purchase a new cable, you might want to try Activetweak, a free application, which, amongst other things will entirely stop activesync processes and then start them again. This seems to have resolved my occasional sync will it/won't it problem.
I noticed that if I soft reset the device, and rebooted the pc, waited for them to 'settle down' and then sync'd it would always work. The above app means I don't have to do that anymore.
If you don't mind losing the message sent notification altogether, the Wiki page has instructions on how to do this <<<Click Here>>> (you might want to read through the Wiki, it has lots of good tweaks etc.. on it which might interest you)
I find having delivery reports switched on, so I get a text when it has reached the recipient, is all I need. I don't need or miss the 'Message Sent' notification at all.
Hope this helps
The most useless phone I have owned
Hi Have to say I am hugely dissappointed withthe Hermes.
I have the Vodafone version (V1605) and it is totally useless.
If I am on a call and get another incoming call it freezes.
Worldmate Pro cannot connect tot he internet but TrafficTV and IE can.
My computer cannot use it as a modem.
It frequently freezes.
Is it just me?
Robin
Robster said:
Is it just me?
Robin
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yep!
sorry, couldn't resist...
From a previous post a few weeks back,
smads said:
I use my TyTN every day.
I have a HTC644 which is rid of the SA issues
I use the Dan Herrero Bandwidth switch which stops it serching for 3G signals.
I get at least 2 days out of the unit.
I have push email which works flawlessly.
I take about 2hrs of calls a day.
I use Pocket Informant 2007 which is excellent and work well in the project managment job that I have.
I use Listpro for my project lists
I use eWallet for all my sensetive data
I use PocketIE for Traffic updates while on the road in the UK but I have Opera if I want a more rich internet experience.
I use Coolcamera which has improved the out put of the camera no end and photo blog to my splashblog account.
I use resco pocket radio over wi-fi for internet radio.
I use Resco audio recorder for meetings which stores audio on the storage card.
I log into my home system with Logmein, and control the device while docked though active sync using SOTI pocket controller.
This is without doubt THE most versatile phone I have ever had and I could not live without it... ok I could but I'd really miss it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My JASJAM is by far the best phone I've had so far. Wait a minute! I said that also about my previous phone, the P990i. And I kept it only three months. I better keep this one longer, otherwise dishum-dishum from my wife . . .
The worst one was probably the Siemens MC60. What a piece of trash!
Robster said:
Hi Have to say I am hugely dissappointed withthe Hermes.
I have the Vodafone version (V1605) and it is totally useless.
If I am on a call and get another incoming call it freezes.
Worldmate Pro cannot connect tot he internet but TrafficTV and IE can.
My computer cannot use it as a modem.
It frequently freezes.
Is it just me?
Robin
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi Robin,
I have to admit that I have had my share of glitches and things not working right, but I don't agree with your overall assessment, and am loving my 8525.
But as this is my first PDA phone, Maybe it's my own ignorance that gives me this bliss.
From my experience, which compares this phone to a bunch of crappy Motorolas that couldn't do more than act as a phone (and sometimes failed at THAT), my device plays music, gives me 800-900+ KBps throughput on the Internet (unless I click it into wi-fi, where I get 1.6 MBps) ...and this is full Internet ...not some cheesy t-zones type of sub-sub-subset. I can get maps and directions, take and view photos and videos, attach to my desktop and laptop computers, configure almost anything I want on the UI, create, edit, view and share Word, Excel, text and other types of documents, retrieve and organize email from all of my accounts, play games, manage my contacts and my calendar, and it seems, a gazillion other things. This is all not even mentioning it's use as a phone/speakerphone.
All this, and a zippy processor, in a package that fits in my hand or shirt pocket, I find astonishing!
If this is 'the most useless device you've ever owned', I for one would love to hear about the devices to which you are comparing it!?!?!
Anyway, that's just my $0.02.
Best regards,
Well I am glad other people are having a better experience.
But my K-JAM seemd far more stable, never once froze on me when I got a second call and actually felt faster than this phone!
Unless I have a dud?
Robin
4 Marissa
marisa4755 said:
Before you purchase a new cable, you might want to try Activetweak, a free application, which, amongst other things will entirely stop activesync processes and then start them again. This seems to have resolved my occasional sync will it/won't it problem.
I noticed that if I soft reset the device, and rebooted the pc, waited for them to 'settle down' and then sync'd it would always work. The above app means I don't have to do that anymore.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Try the fit4cat hermes tweaker. You can disable the msg sent notification with this app, and not do a manual regedit.
Hope this helps,
jamiepyrite said:
Wow, thanks very much all of you for the excellent responses! This really is an incredibly helpful and friendly forum here
About the alarm clock, etc. problem: When I go into Settings>Sounds & Notifications, the third tick box down is Notifications (Alarms, reminders). If I have this unticked, it disables sound for when it says "Message Sent" but also disables the sound for the alarm clock. I just tried disabling it then going onto the alarm clock and checking the ringtone for the alarm clock and it said it won't sound unless Notifications is enabled. But, if you go into the Notifcations tab, there isn't an option to change the tone for Text Message Sent. Only MMS Message Sent.
I'll look into 3rd party applications more when I have the time
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You are always welcome! In regard to your trouble with alarm software, you may consider checking out WAWA alarm software from noviimedia - this application does really a lot, but it's main and unusual feature is to let your handheld turn on your home theater (TV, DVD-player, etc.) to wake you up in the morning. (http://novii.tv/pocketpc/wawa) I purchased it yesterday and now I recommend it to anyone - it's great!
AggravatingSync
To be fair, ActiveSync is a Micro$haft application, I have the same problems. My best luck occurs when I launch AggravatingSync, right click on the icon in the lower right hand corner of your Windows PC, click Connection Settings, uncheck the Allow USB Connections (so as to not allow them), then click OK.
Then, unplug your USB device from the computer, wait 5 seconds, plug it back in, wait 5 seconds, right click on the icon in the lower right hand corner of your Windows PC, click Connection Settings, check the Allow USB Connections (so as to allow them), then click OK.
That has worked for me so far when AggravatingSync is on the fritz.
I am T-mobile US customer but I supercid/unlocked the phone and run the HTC 2.05 rom. I would recommend unlocking the phone (I have the Cingular 8525 flavor as T-mobile US does not have the Vario II).
Good luck.
jamiepyrite said:
Firstly, the active sync is rubbish! On Windows XP. It's extremely tempremental.. Some days it'll work fine and connect, others (most days!) it won't work. Windows will make the "doo-doo" noise to say that a device has been connected, but active sync won't connect. What rubbish.
It decides to not receive messages, until I open the Messages app. Also, it sometimes likes to send a message, then when I open the Messages app later on, it'll resend the last sent message and notify me.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If your PC has Bluetooth, try ActiveSync over BT - that way, you might be able to isolate whether it's an ActiveSyns issue, a Hermes issue, or a sync cable issue.

Why my HD2 will be my last windows phone

Last November I ordered my new HD2 with excitment, finally an potential iphone killer was on the market. After weeks of reading reviews and watching youtube un-boxings I cancelled my order for the Touch HD and got the HD2 instead.
Initially i loved the phone but i have to say that i have grown to dislike it, due to software issues. Here are the reasons why
1. When I close and application I want the application to actually close, not hang around in the backgound making the phone sluggish and unusable. Skype and Goolge maps are the worst culprets for this. My T-Mobile Vario allowed me close application done by holding the 'X' for a few seconds. Why cant the HD2 / WinMi 6.5 have this feature.
2. When i want to reply to an SMS message, i want to start typing right away. If there are more than a couple of messages in the thread i dont want to have to sit an wait 5 minutes until it will allow text input.
3. Market place no longer works
4. When i put my username and password into the facebook app, ans select "save details" why can it not actually save the details. Did MS / HTC actually test this feature before the app was released.
5. I cannot select items in the facebook app as it was not designed for device without the D-Pad....lots of point it being on the HD2 them..
6. The youtube player complains about "storage full" at start up and then just close for no reason. Another useless app. other phone have no problem playing you tube video.
7. There is just not enough memory, take a few photos and a couple of video, thats it the phone is full. I had to mess around trying to figure out how to save things to the memory card by default. Why cant windows support more storage, Apple manage it!
8. Alarm Clock. You turn off the alarm and it still sounds at the set time, you change the time of the alarm and it still sound at the original time, even though thats not the time that sense tell you that it set to. Again did no one actually test this before shipping?
9. Windows Phone 7 looks aweful and is still the same old WinCE 5 with a different interface. Microsoft should have done something spectacular, instead they are shipping the same old pig in different lipstick. Why can't Microsoft not get mobile right?? Just a phone that works would be a great start. No wonder there are no so many HTC android devices.
Just my thoughts, please feel free to tell me that I am wrong.
Vertuas said:
Last November I ordered my new HD2 with excitment, finally an potential iphone killer was on the market. After weeks of reading reviews and watching youtube un-boxings I cancelled my order for the Touch HD and got the HD2 instead.
Initially i loved the phone but i have to say that i have grown to dislike it, due to software issues.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Firstly, what ROM do you have?
What version of HD2 do you have? (TMobile US or other?)
1. When I close and application I want the application to actually close, not hang around in the backgound making the phone sluggish and unusable. Skype and Goolge maps are the worst culprets for this. My T-Mobile Vario allowed me close application done by holding the 'X' for a few seconds. Why cant the HD2 / WinMi 6.5 have this feature.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This should work as you hope, does it keep all programs open? If not, maybe it is a program setting rather than Windows.
I have WKTask running on mine, so can't check, I would recommend this, but add the exclusion for the start menu if you decide to use it.
2. When i want to reply to an SMS message, i want to start typing right away. If there are more than a couple of messages in the thread i dont want to have to sit an wait 5 minutes until it will allow text input.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This goes back to my original questions, this was solved for me with a 1.72 ROM update from O2, try checking the HTC website for an update. (back up your settings first!)
3. Market place no longer works
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That is a bit too vague to help, but try looking for an update for the Marketplace app, from memory there was one only a couple of months back.
4. When i put my username and password into the facebook app, ans select "save details" why can it not actually save the details. Did MS / HTC actually test this feature before the app was released.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Again, there are updates for this, would recommend sorting out Marketplace first.
5. I cannot select items in the facebook app as it was not designed for device without the D-Pad....lots of point it being on the HD2 them..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't know which app you're using but the one shipped with mine is designed for touch screens. has it not got a slider on the right hand side to scroll with?
6. The youtube player complains about "storage full" at start up and then just close for no reason. Another useless app. other phone have no problem playing you tube video.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This may be due to lack of onboard storage, try looking for PMClean, it should give you an idea of whats using it up, and let you remove pretty much all temp files.
7. There is just not enough memory, take a few photos and a couple of video, thats it the phone is full. I had to mess around trying to figure out how to save things to the memory card by default. Why cant windows support more storage, Apple manage it!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'll admit there isn't much going for the onboard storage, but changing the photos/videos to storage card is a couple of taps...
8. Alarm Clock. You turn off the alarm and it still sounds at the set time, you change the time of the alarm and it still sound at the original time, even though thats not the time that sense tell you that it set to. Again did no one actually test this before shipping?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Never had this, but can't check if its a regular thing as you've not mentioned your ROM version.
9. Windows Phone 7 looks aweful and is still the same old WinCE 5 with a different interface. Microsoft should have done something spectacular, instead they are shipping the same old pig in different lipstick. Why can't Microsoft not get mobile right?? Just a phone that works would be a great start. No wonder there are no so many HTC android devices.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am still in two minds about WinPhone7, not sure if I like it, but I thought it was based on a newer kernel. I'll have to look into that.
Vertuas said:
please feel free to tell me that I am wrong.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Your wrong
1. I've had 10 apps running before and not had any slow down. You can set the registry to close apps on X, and it's probably a nice easy tick box in one of the many tweak apps.
2. I've got SMS conversations going back months and can type straight away.
3. Which one? MS Market place? Works fine for me.
4. Again, not a problem here with mine.
5. See 4.
6. Youtube works for me and others. Starting to think there's a problem with your phone, are you running the latest stock ROM?
7. Mine saves to the SD card by default.
8. My alarm works great, if I untick the box or unhighlight the day it won't sound, getting the feeling you're running a custom ROM.
9. WP7 is unfortunately not just a vaneer on top of WinCE 5.0, if it was our old apps would be compatible. It's based on the Windows Embedded CE 6.0 R3 kernal.
If you're running the latest stock ROM, then I'd suggest doing a hard reset (backup your data first!) and then see how it goes.
If you still have trouble then contact HTC and submit a warranty claim.
Vertuas said:
Last November I ordered my new HD2 with excitment, finally an potential iphone killer was on the market. After weeks of reading reviews and watching youtube un-boxings I cancelled my order for the Touch HD and got the HD2 instead.
Initially i loved the phone but i have to say that i have grown to dislike it, due to software issues. Here are the reasons why
1. When I close and application I want the application to actually close, not hang around in the backgound making the phone sluggish and unusable. Skype and Goolge maps are the worst culprets for this. My T-Mobile Vario allowed me close application done by holding the 'X' for a few seconds. Why cant the HD2 / WinMi 6.5 have this feature.
2. When i want to reply to an SMS message, i want to start typing right away. If there are more than a couple of messages in the thread i dont want to have to sit an wait 5 minutes until it will allow text input.
3. Market place no longer works
4. When i put my username and password into the facebook app, ans select "save details" why can it not actually save the details. Did MS / HTC actually test this feature before the app was released.
5. I cannot select items in the facebook app as it was not designed for device without the D-Pad....lots of point it being on the HD2 them..
6. The youtube player complains about "storage full" at start up and then just close for no reason. Another useless app. other phone have no problem playing you tube video.
7. There is just not enough memory, take a few photos and a couple of video, thats it the phone is full. I had to mess around trying to figure out how to save things to the memory card by default. Why cant windows support more storage, Apple manage it!
8. Alarm Clock. You turn off the alarm and it still sounds at the set time, you change the time of the alarm and it still sound at the original time, even though thats not the time that sense tell you that it set to. Again did no one actually test this before shipping?
9. Windows Phone 7 looks aweful and is still the same old WinCE 5 with a different interface. Microsoft should have done something spectacular, instead they are shipping the same old pig in different lipstick. Why can't Microsoft not get mobile right?? Just a phone that works would be a great start. No wonder there are no so many HTC android devices.
Just my thoughts, please feel free to tell me that I am wrong.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wow, just wow. You've had the phone for 8 months and this is your first post? Definitely not a WinMo power user.
1. Many different task managers on here to choose from, including the htc default one, free for download. Might try searching.
2. Have you done any of the available updates for the phone? Besides complete ROM updates, there have been hotfixes for sms. I'm guessing you haven't taken the time.
3. WM Marketplace works, Omarket works, Handango works.
4. Facebook saves my login fine after every flash, not sure what your problem is. I'm guessing it has something to do with you not updating your phone.
5. ??? Never needed a dpad on this phone. Not sure what facebook app you are using.
6. Sounds like you need a memory cleaner. I would start with cleanRAM and clearTEMP. Once again, google is your friend. I'm guessing your youtube, album and internet caches have taken over all free memory. Might be time to clean house.
7. Did you try reading the manual? Or pressing that little sprocket looking thing when you open the camera to see what was inside?
8. Never had any problems with the alarm clock, so can't help you.
9. You are just completely clueless aren't you???
http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/
There's a reason that none of our current programs will be backwards compatible.
I hope you didn't pay full price for your HD2 because you have not come close to realizing its potential. Maybe an iphone is what you need?
Every one of the problems can be solved by using the 'search' button on this site.
I do agree that WinMo7 looks awful, but if microsoft are smart, they will leave it an open system like previous versions of WinMo. This would mean that some of the geniuses on here can make it an outstanding operating system.
This phone was designed for use with a removable microSD card, which is a whole load better than the fixed memory type (iPhone and HTC Diamond).
1. It's called multitasking and dont slow the phone down for me.
2. Not a problem with my Dutty CDLC v8 ROM.
3. Works fine for me.
4. and 5. I don't use Facebook because i actually got a life ;-)
6. Get a bigger SD card.
7. Get a bigger SC card to save stuff on, and that will also solve #6. Many users want it to save photos and videos internal as default.
8. Use S2U2 as lock app.
9. If you don't like Windows Phone 7 then don't use it.
I really think you crying. Try to go to bed a little early because it will sure help.
You can still close apps properly by holding the X. If you just tap x, is will stay in the background. If you press and hold, it will close properly.
My advice: Learn how the task manager works
madindehead said:
It's people like you, who give HD2 users a bad name...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Indeed, the OP obviously needs help, his phone is not behaving as it should, and he isn't aware of some of it's capabilities.
The last thing he needs is posts like erikvario's.
Be sure you always installs the hotfixes and latest ROM's.
And to close applications, then use Dutty's taskmanager.
Then you get a icon at the upper right corner, you tap it, and you see the list of running applications.
Vertuas said:
Just my thoughts, please feel free to tell me that I am wrong.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
And you think we are fools to keep a device like that.
And yes you are dead wrong.
I have,actually, we have no issues such as you have mentioned (we have 2 HD2s at home).
madindehead said:
It's people like you, who give HD2 users a bad name...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Indeed and it's also the reason he will be absent for a while!
Mike
In all honesty you didn't give this phone the attention it deserves. I have only found success using windows after I put a good deal of thought into properly flashing a radio and a rom. The effort is worth it for me. My dual booting, over/underclocked HD2 is more capable than any Iphone.
mikechannon said:
Indeed and it's also the reason he will be absent for a while!
Mike
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hehe was about to write him a warning, like usual you beat me
LOL @ ban. Much deserved
polo753 - snap on the setup!
HTC HD2
2.12.50
Energy 23678
shubCRAFT 1.4d
After three days of Android - and still occasionally popping into WM for TomTom/book reader (still not found anything that beats AlReader2) I'm confident Android will be my next phone, despite not being a huge giving-Google-my-data fan. Wm6 is dead - and WM7 looks a (slight) mess (I'm already bored of the interface following a years-worth of screenshots), although I'm happy to change my mind when I eventaully get to play with one.
Hello Again Everyone,
First, Thanks to all the helpful people how have given me usuful tips and solutions. I will try an check some of them out and see what can be inproved. As it happens i checked market place and it actually connected 10 minutes ago for the first time in about 6 weeks.
As for all the people flaming me......no i've not gone away for a while
If i went out an bought a new car i would expet it to be working as normal 9 months down the line other wise i would be might unhappy.
The HD2 is my third WinMo phone and it the first one that frustrates me. The hardware and HTC sense are awesome it just niggly annoying things that should just work.
As for Apple, i would not own an Apple product if you payed me to take it away!!!
For interested in being help full, the phone has the HTC rom and not a network specific one. Rom version : 1.43.405.1 (70124) WWE
As for me giving the phone a bad name, I know my way around wondows mobile and if i have a problem i know where and what task manager is, i can close stuff. Where the phone get a bad name is from the lesser technical and informed people went out and bought the HT2. Propobly 90% of consumers of the handset as not techically minded and how no idea when is going on that making windows run slow. These are the people that will say that the phone is no good, with out actually knowing what they are talking about.
These are the people in the street who are seeing the issues with the phone and writting it off and migrating to handsets by companies named after frui,t because they "Just Work"
The phone should work, 99% percent perfectly, update for new features i can live with, but the feature on the phone should work. without me searching forum for answers.
Yeah to be fair I love my HT2, its like a girlfriend. Its great to have around, but it annoys the crap out me sometime
madindehead said:
You can still close apps properly by holding the X. If you just tap x, is will stay in the background. If you press and hold, it will close properly.
My advice: Learn how the task manager works
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I opened up excel mobile.
i held the close ('X') in the corner for ten second, it highlighted but did not close until i let go.
open up task manger....excel still running!!!!!
go figure!
Vertuas said:
For interested in being help full, the phone has the HTC rom and not a network specific one. Rom version : 1.43.405.1 (70124) WWE
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi,
1.43 is the original ROM, give this one a try:
http://www.htc.com/uk/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=297&cat=2&dl_id=856
Don't forget to back all your stuff up first (contacts, etc)
Vertuas said:
Last November I ordered my new HD2 with excitment, finally an potential iphone killer was on the market. After weeks of reading reviews and watching youtube un-boxings I cancelled my order for the Touch HD and got the HD2 instead.
Initially i loved the phone but i have to say that i have grown to dislike it, due to software issues. Here are the reasons why
1. When I close and application I want the application to actually close, not hang around in the backgound making the phone sluggish and unusable. Skype and Goolge maps are the worst culprets for this. My T-Mobile Vario allowed me close application done by holding the 'X' for a few seconds. Why cant the HD2 / WinMi 6.5 have this feature.
2. When i want to reply to an SMS message, i want to start typing right away. If there are more than a couple of messages in the thread i dont want to have to sit an wait 5 minutes until it will allow text input.
3. Market place no longer works
4. When i put my username and password into the facebook app, ans select "save details" why can it not actually save the details. Did MS / HTC actually test this feature before the app was released.
5. I cannot select items in the facebook app as it was not designed for device without the D-Pad....lots of point it being on the HD2 them..
6. The youtube player complains about "storage full" at start up and then just close for no reason. Another useless app. other phone have no problem playing you tube video.
7. There is just not enough memory, take a few photos and a couple of video, thats it the phone is full. I had to mess around trying to figure out how to save things to the memory card by default. Why cant windows support more storage, Apple manage it!
8. Alarm Clock. You turn off the alarm and it still sounds at the set time, you change the time of the alarm and it still sound at the original time, even though thats not the time that sense tell you that it set to. Again did no one actually test this before shipping?
9. Windows Phone 7 looks aweful and is still the same old WinCE 5 with a different interface. Microsoft should have done something spectacular, instead they are shipping the same old pig in different lipstick. Why can't Microsoft not get mobile right?? Just a phone that works would be a great start. No wonder there are no so many HTC android devices.
Just my thoughts, please feel free to tell me that I am wrong.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
first of all, the following paragraph is not intended to flame you or anything such...just something i found odd...
you've started a new thread...its title suggests its another one of those "i hate my HD2 and never getting a WM phone again" threads...then you list all your problems...but no details!!! honestly, nearly ALL your problems are fixable! like you mentioned, nearly ALL of them are software problems! and you can tell they are fixable by the suggestions people are giving. i now see in your second post that you have finally mentioned some much needed information.
so, nearly all your problems are fixable...and you say you are familiar with WM...but you've just GOT to at least try a hard reset...better yet, try one of the newer official ROMs...they were released for a reason! the 1.43 ROM you're using is ANCIENT...its like complaining about an iphone4 that you're using with version 1 of the iOS. best suggestion from me is to try a custom/cooked ROM...they are da bomb!
1. almost all custom ROMs include one (or two...or even THREE) task managers. the energy ROM i am using includes "arkswitch" (tap top-left corner to bring up running applications list) and "ameba" (lets you configure and fine tune the behavior of the X button)
2. the energy ROM i am using completely does away with the HTC messaging client. if you have used WM phones before, you will find yourself more comfortable with the DEFAULT WM text messaging client. the energy ROM i am using integrates the DEFAULT WM text messaging client quite nicely. its speedy, to the point, and very much more compatible with backup programs like pimbackup and MS's myphone.
3. the MS market place app gets updated every now and then. still, a hard reset should get it going.
4. don't use facebook at all so can't help you there...but if it worked before, it truly sounds like a hard reset should get it going again.
5. don't use facebook at all so can't help you there.
6. this happened to me from time to time when i was using the stock ROM. never happened again on the energy ROM i am using. moreover, you can always install the official youtube app direct from google.
7. in EVERY WM phone i have owned, one of the FIRST things i did after booting up for the first time was to set the camera to store to the storage card...make a habit of it! apple is able to manage it because the iphone has BUILT IN storage (non-expandable! yuk!) so there is NOTHING to configure in the first place!
8. use G-Alarm! fantastic alarm application. search for version 1.5.1 which was the last FREE version. works fine on the HD2.
9. WM7 is truly many steps backward for the geeky users like us but it will probably allow MS to take many steps forward by attracting the non-power users currently being drawn to the iphone. as much as i hate the fact that MS seems to be abandoning the requirements of the power user, i take comfort in knowing that at least apple won't get the whole pie
to be honest since purchasing the hd2 a few months ago you realise this phone is not for everybody it does not work straight out the box like the iphone you have to spend some time to tweak/customise the phone to make it perform to its full potential personally i enjoying this aspect if it thats why i love the hd2..re the points you made i havent come across any of these and im confident they can be rectified

Xoom & Honeycomb Early Adopter Wish List

So, we're all early adopters and we all know what we're getting into but if we could reach out to Motorola & Google, what would you want to tell them?
What do you wish the Xoom / Honeycomb had?
Please don't list things that we know are already coming down the pipe, like Flash, micro-SD card support, and 4G.
Here are some things I'd like to see in the next software update:
Contrast & Saturation controls
Separate wallpaper for lock screen & home screens
REAL USB support, not this MTP crap!
Trickle charging from USB port
Scrollable task manager
Ability to auto hide clock / menu bar when viewing fullscreen videos or games, it does hide now, but the apps don't go true fullscreen, it's more like a lights out effect
Ability to rate / comment in the Market app
What else would you like to see?
I'm not sure if the second to last one is possible without a gesture to bring it back up. The last one should already be there though.
I would like to see something done about smoothness of entering text in a browser. Its laggy and horrible to use.
Good point. Hopefully, future Honeycomb devices will have a proximity sensor. That would be such a cool way to bring up auto hidden menu / status bars.
I'd also like to see it play many of these video codecs flawlessly with hardware acceleration.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
I just did a quick test and hardware video codec support is pretty crappy right now.
What's good on USB file system compared to mtp?
Same functionality to transfer files from PC.
Mtp is better because no need to mount it.
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App
I don't want usb mass storage support if it means I have to unmount the internal 'sdcard' ever.
This is an improvement over the past, and it's a better implementation than Apple's for sure. It makes media transfer super easy for users and that is all it's about. I never want to have to unlock my tab and hit mount to just transfer a file ever again.
My biggest thing would be the ability to be able to re-size the widgets like you can do in launcherpro.
The widgets on the apps are too small because they are primarily designed for the phones...so all the things I need right now all fit into one screen...and it looks to empty if i move them.
Other than that, the speed of the internet rendering....with a dual core processor you would think you could use all that power to actually render it in real time so its not all fuzzy for a sec or two
also maybe the same kind of word prediction like they use in sense or blur where it actually shows you the different words that it thinks you are trying to use...which im sure will get fixed by different developers with different keyboards...maybe.
EDIT -- FOUND IN SETTINGS. THANKS BAUXITE
Maybe also the ability to add little icon type things to the task bar for the things you love the most...so you could just be playing a game or something and need/want to use the internet...I mean you could use that last 5 apps launcher but meh...think it would be useful.
killswitch23456 said:
also maybe the same kind of word prediction like they use in sense or blur where it actually shows you the different words that it thinks you are trying to use...which im sure will get fixed by different developers with different keyboards...maybe.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You can find this under settings.
Sent from my Xoom using XDA Premium App
Bauxite said:
You can find this under settings.
Sent from my Xoom using XDA Premium App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Legit?? Dayum...just got it the other day and when i went through I didn't see it. Thanks man!
gogol said:
What's good on USB file system compared to mtp?
Same functionality to transfer files from PC.
Mtp is better because no need to mount it.
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My cousin has the NIA, he chose that over Xoom cuz he wanted to be able to plug in his external hard drives and play movies directly off of them.
32GB sounds like a lot but a typical 1080p mkv is about 8-10GB. Not only is that time consuming to copy, you could only fit 4 or so movies on there.
Not sure if the Android file system even supports large file sizes like NTFS does.
killswitch23456 said:
Maybe also the ability to add little icon type things to the task bar for the things you love the most...so you could just be playing a game or something and need/want to use the internet...I mean you could use that last 5 apps launcher but meh...think it would be useful.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I wonder why they didn't just put currently running apps right on the task/menu/clock bar itself?
Probably because it would look too "windows/mac"-ish? That's a lame reason. It actually would've been smarter and more user friendly to do that since that bar is persistent and never disappears...as far as I've seen.
I hope they get rid of that apps button and just put them on the bar in the future.
Neo3D said:
So, we're all early adopters and we all know what we're getting into but if we could reach out to Motorola & Google, what would you want to tell them?
What do you wish the Xoom / Honeycomb had?
Please don't list things that we know are already coming down the pipe, like Flash, micro-SD card support, and 4G.
Here are some things I'd like to see in the next software update:
Contrast & Saturation controls
Separate wallpaper for lock screen & home screens
REAL USB support, not this MTP crap!
Trickle charging from USB port
Scrollable task manager
Ability to auto hide clock / menu bar when viewing fullscreen videos or games, it does hide now, but the apps don't go true fullscreen, it's more like a lights out effect
Ability to rate / comment in the Market app
What else would you like to see?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I would love to see all those although I don't care for trickle USB charging. Pointless in my mind. I love how fast the xoom is charged with the stock charger.
Sent from my Xoom using XDA App
The one thing I can think of off the top of my head would be to allow us to "Clear All" notifications in the bar all at one time, rather than click the X to clear out every notification. Would be especially useful if you just batch installed a ton of apps in the market in one run. It's a very minor request but my two cents worth. I'll think of more.
I agree. With most of the items posted. However instead of having the recent apps button make that a scrollable. Task manager.
Sent from my Xoom using XDA App
Stylus support with hand shadow ignore, so I could write on it like a sheet of paper.
Handwriting recognition would also help.
That is something else called "USB Host" feature.
Which I believe Xoom has it, but you need special cable.
The special cable will be made by Motorola and has not been released yet.
There was a thread discussing this before and you can find one as well in the official Moto support forum for Xoom.
UPDATE: here are the threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=974286&highlight=USB+host
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=971524&highlight=USB+host
Tell that to your cousin
Neo3D said:
My cousin has the NIA, he chose that over Xoom cuz he wanted to be able to plug in his external hard drives and play movies directly off of them.
32GB sounds like a lot but a typical 1080p mkv is about 8-10GB. Not only is that time consuming to copy, you could only fit 4 or so movies on there.
Not sure if the Android file system even supports large file sizes like NTFS does.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Neo3D said:
M
Not sure if the Android file system even supports large file sizes like NTFS does.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
WHAT? Android is Linux, and almost every linux kernel has ext3... which supports just as large file sizes as NTFS does.
diablo2224 said:
The one thing I can think of off the top of my head would be to allow us to "Clear All" notifications in the bar all at one time, rather than click the X to clear out every notification. Would be especially useful if you just batch installed a ton of apps in the market in one run. It's a very minor request but my two cents worth. I'll think of more.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I completely agree. There are several things that are available on phoned but not on honeycomb which make no sense, like clear all. The show pictures in the stock email app as well.
I also agree with OP about his suggestions.
Sent from my Xoom using XDA Premium App
colbyb25 said:
I would love to see all those although I don't care for trickle USB charging. Pointless in my mind. I love how fast the xoom is charged with the stock charger.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I like how fast it charges using the standard plug and I would use that normally, but I'd like to have the option art least in a pinch or in the car. For example I have a micro usb at work, but I don't have my xoom charger. I can go a whole dayand charge at night but that's not the point.
Sent from my Xoom using XDA Premium App
lanternca said:
I like how fast it charges using the standard plug and I would use that normally, but I'd like to have the option art least in a pinch or in the car. For example I have a micro usb at work, but I don't have my xoom charger. I can go a whole dayand charge at night but that's not the point.
Sent from my Xoom using XDA Premium App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yep, agree!
What if we wanted to take the tablet on a road trip where you wouldn't be close to an outlet? USB trickle charging would definitely help in that case as well!
The main issue here is whether this is a hardware issue or software issue. If it's software, I'm sure some genius on here can figure out how to unlock that.
Mainly what OP said. Additionally:
Applications in Market should show "installed" or "purchased"
Search result list position should be remembered after "checking out" one app and returning to the list
Integration of PDF viewer into browser
Native support of folders (although I love the Folder Organizer app)
Option to configure transition effects between homescreens (like in LauncherPro)
That's what came to my mind immediately.

[GUIDE] ZGPaX S5 :: [ROOT]+[MODS] :9/17/14::: Revert to StocK Tutorial***

This thread is designed to organize ZGPAX Discussion.
I will begin by posting what i have learned and if others have mods or useful information, OP will be updated.
Please feel free to PM me, and drop a line. ADD ME ON FACEBOOK - all that is in my xda profile to the left
Also, if you are interested you can mail me your ZGPAX via USPS and i will root/ install the modification listed. For more Information PM me with your inquiry!
Also We can Skype/Video Call / Hangouts Video Call for the watches that i mod
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Using Next Launcher 3D
[VIDEOS]
Running NEXT LAUNCHER 3D -
Tablet Talk Notification TEst / Misc Testing
Awesome ON / OFF Application
Stock Test Run
.
.
OTHER VIDEOS
Courtesy of
Shaolin95
ZGPAX Running Dreamcast Emulator: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZmdEl9yAvI
ZGPAX Running Playstation - Tekken 3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzPNHKuWfbo
ZGPAX Playing Shinobi via M.A.M.E w/PS3 Controller https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNFyWJXZcLQ
ZGPAX Quadrant Standard Benchmark https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUGlLVXJ77U
.
.
.
SOFT BRICK OR STUCK in a BOOTLOOP? REVERT TO STOCK
TWRP is required to use the following backup. Please make sure you still have it installed and are able to access it.
Download the stock OS backup Here http://www.4shared.com/zip/dxnYQfmpba/stock_zgpax.html
You need to be able to access your SD Card, if not you may need to use an external SD. Navigate to /SD Card/TWRP/Backup (or create the folder if it doesn't exist). Next you need to make a folder called Stock ZGPAX. Then your are going to place the files you downloaded here from the link above.
IF you cannot access your SD Card, try using an external MicroSD card. You will have to make the /TWRP/Backup Directory and Folder yourself... and then place the files in there manually.
Finally, you will REBOOT into TWRP and Navigate to the restore option. Look for your folder there and restore this backup.
.
.
.
ROOT
Just install "framaroot.apk or sideload to the watch's internal storage and install - Do not ask for links, just google it
.
.
.
RECOVERY
To install TWRP, you can download and install RECOVERY TOOLS for Free. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.mkrtchyan.recoverytools
Next download to Internal SD This TWRP image https://www.dropbox.com/s/05818ubth99f2x9/twrprecovery.img and UI.Zip https://www.dropbox.com/s/f59htzer97tvliz/ui.zip
--Open Recovery Tools - Select FLASH OTHER RECOVERY - Locate and Select the twrp.IMG file you downloaded and hit YES. Continue to flash...
--Download UI.zip Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=52782588&postcount=892 Make sure you place it in --> Internal Storage/TWRP/theme - (you are actually going to make this folder yourself)
--Reboot into recovery (Hold down back+power) and you should see twrp.
​
.
.
STOCK ANALOG CLOCK LOCKSCREEN / SCREENSAVER BYPASS
This will prevent the stock lockscreen analog clock and launcher from showing up when you press the power button to turn the screen off
Requirements: ADW or other 3rd party launcher/Root Access/RomToolbox/"NO LOCK" Free application on google play
Be sure you have root, and you have already installed ADW or a 3rd party launcher and ROM TOOLBOX or equivalent.
Step 1: Download "NO LOCK" from play store... Yellow iPhone looking app icon. Or Bluetooth transfer / side-load application to internal storage and INSTALL
Step 2: Go into SETTINGS >> APPS >>> ALL TAB >> Navigate to COM.SZKCT.ACTIVITY and click on it >>> Force STOP & DISABLE if possible
OPTIONAL: If you would like this to stick after reboot: GO TO ROM TOOLBOX >> APP MANAGER >> ALL >>> Locate COM.SZKCT.ACTIVITY and FREEZE the package.
​
INVERTED GOOGLE PLAY STORE
View attachment 2488657
This application just looks a whole lot better on our device. https://www.dropbox.com/s/ka1zpew0r2rqpsp/Inverted_Google_Play_Store_4.5.10.zip?m=
.
.
SMS & INCOMING CALL NOTIFICATIONS
Thus far, the only app i have verified to work RELIABLY is TABLET TALK, which is currently $2.99 in the PLAY Store.
You may need to install PIE CONTROLS to have the MENU BUTTON functionality first. PIE is free in play store - Afterwards:
Install on Both, android phone and the smart watch.
On the android phone you are using, setup the device in settings >> at the bottom >> The phone should be selected as PHONE
On the smart watch, go into the same settings menu at the bottom >> The device should be selected as tablet
On both devices, you should press the bluetooth icon.... Both will turn yellow, and then GREEN, when they paid. DONE!
PERFORMANCE
Using a TOOLBOX / RooT app (such as Rom TOOLBOX or Trickstermod) recommendations below to help performance and battery.
Scheduler --> Change I/O to DEADLINE - This will increase SD Card read Speeds --> The stock is CFG, Deadline is usually faster!
Governor ---> Try ON DEMAND Governor. Can help eliminate over-heating without sacrificing performance. Stock is Hybrid
XPOSED FRAMEWORK
.A number of apps will not fit within the visible area of the device without changing the DPI. Confirmed that Xposed and App settings works with the ZGPAX and can be found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2072081. For example, in the ADW popup dialog you cannot change screen borders or change wallpaper until you change the DPI to 100.
.
.
.
USEFULE APPS
Some useful good apps that install and work for this device. Will update frequently with your help: ​
Battery Monitor Widget - This widget may help updating the battery percent and reflect more accurately at all times.
Awesome ON OFF - Similar to galaxy gear, turning the watch activates screen on, with vibrate
Shake Screen ON OFF by Freebooks - Simple shake to turn the screen on or off - no need to use home button
CPU SPY is good for monitoring deep sleep... in case you install an app that keeps the device awake.
ADW EX Launcher - 4x4 grid is perfect, runs smoothly, can stretch clock widgets and such
Active Apps - Good for clearing apps and Ram in one convenient location
DigiClock - Large 4x4 clock with built in themes
Frama Root - For quick rooting
Google Maps - Be sure to actually download and install from the playstore or it may not work
NO Lock - Removes lockscreen and you can sleep / wake watch from whichever home screen you left off at
PIE controls - So you don't have to always be hitting the hardware POWER and Back buttons... also allows many toggles
ROM TOOLBOX - All root tools, file explorer, boot animation etc etc
thanks for your works
i wainting arrive my device :laugh:
Volume Change
Since mine isn't here yet, I guess someone else can test this. It's from the Joe's Tech Review website and it's for a different model, but it might work.
Z1 smart watch phone Engineering code. (Bas Advalvas)
INCREASE CALL VOLUME: found it!
Finally found it. And it's easy! Call sound value is too low on the Z1, 1 of it's main drawbacks.
■Start the phone dialer and dial: *#*#8787#*#* This will start Engineer Mode on de the Z1.
■Select Audio, then Normal Mode. Choose the 'type' Speech, change the value 6 into 0 (that's the loudest) and press Set.
■Press the Back button once. Now select LoudSpeaker Mode. Choose the 'type' Speech, change the value 24 (?) into 10 (on my Z1, the value 0 made the sound very soft, probably because of the system that prevents feedbacklooping from speaker to microphone (how you call this?)) and press Set. Press the Back Button a few times to leave Engineer Mode.
That's all! The standard call volume increases a bit (40%?), but the handsfree volume (which is otherwise about the same as the standard) inceases a lot (150%?) AND the annoying interference sound is now gone!!!
Drayke5 said:
Since mine isn't here yet, I guess someone else can test this. It's from the Joe's Tech Review website and it's for a different model, but it might work.
Z1 smart watch phone Engineering code. (Bas Advalvas)
INCREASE CALL VOLUME: found it!
Finally found it. And it's easy! Call sound value is too low on the Z1, 1 of it's main drawbacks.
■Start the phone dialer and dial: *#*#8787#*#* This will start Engineer Mode on de the Z1.
■Select Audio, then Normal Mode. Choose the 'type' Speech, change the value 6 into 0 (that's the loudest) and press Set.
■Press the Back button once. Now select LoudSpeaker Mode. Choose the 'type' Speech, change the value 24 (?) into 10 (on my Z1, the value 0 made the sound very soft, probably because of the system that prevents feedbacklooping from speaker to microphone (how you call this?)) and press Set. Press the Back Button a few times to leave Engineer Mode.
That's all! The standard call volume increases a bit (40%?), but the handsfree volume (which is otherwise about the same as the standard) inceases a lot (150%?) AND the annoying interference sound is now gone!!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The speaker is incredibly loud... and being that you haven't actually received your zgpax, i don't think you will need any volume increase.
Would you describe some of the customization you've performed with ADW-EX in order to get such a great look? I haven't used the pay version before, so perhaps it is a silly question, but how did you get such large icons on the main page?
I'm considering buying this watch. Two questions:
1. How does it handle notifications from my phone?
2. Can I use Bluetooth to connect my phone to it since I don't want to put my SIM card in there?
zNiiC,
Check out this other thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2507033&page=8
To answer your questions directly, not yet. It is designed to be a stand-alone device (that being said it may happen eventually).
zNiiC said:
I'm considering buying this watch. Two questions:
1. How does it handle notifications from my phone?
2. Can I use Bluetooth to connect my phone to it since I don't want to put my SIM card in there?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yea I've seen that thread. Could you possibly tie your smartphone to this watch with some sort of app to recieve notifications on it?
ItzSnitz said:
zNiiC,
Check out this other thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2507033&page=8
To answer your questions directly, not yet. It is designed to be a stand-alone device (that being said it may happen eventually).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Apparently the manufacturer is still working on making this possible..... I've tried a lot of apps so far with no luck
Sent from my GT-N7105 using xda app-developers app
Humm. Bummer. I think I read somewhere that someone used mysms. Not sure if it was in the other thread or for a different watch.
If you really want to make it happen, you can use Tasker, Zapier and Pushover to do the job. Here's a useful explanation intended for a different application. Bottom line: if you expect to transmit more than 100 notifications per month, you'll have to shell out some ridiculous money.
ItzSnitz said:
If you really want to make it happen, you can use Tasker, Zapier and Pushover to do the job. Here's a useful explanation intended for a different application. Bottom line: if you expect to transmit more than 100 notifications per month, you'll have to shell out some ridiculous money.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
To BigBison420 and ItzSnitz,
Couldn't you use tasker along with either open watch or notify my android since you can install apps on this watch? (Not quite sure how these apps work). Might be worth a shot to see if it is able to send notifications.
OpenWatch: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=554551
Notify my Android: http://www.notifymyandroid.com/
BigBison420 said:
Apparently the manufacturer is still working on making this possible..... I've tried a lot of apps so far with no luck
Sent from my GT-N7105 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The problem is that the watch is a phone. It is recognized by other devices also as a phone.... And try googling how to pair an android phone to an android phone to use for notifications and call handling Lol.... Not happenin
Sent from my GT-N7105 using xda app-developers app
zNiiC said:
To BigBison420 and ItzSnitz,
Couldn't you use tasker along with either open watch or notify my android since you can install apps on this watch? (Not quite sure how these apps work). Might be worth a shot to see if it is able to send notifications.
OpenWatch: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=554551
Notify my Android: http://www.notifymyandroid.com/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Tried to get open watch to work but no go.... I spent a lot of time trying app store apps. Lots of hidden ones too but I'll def post when something works
Sent from my GT-N7105 using xda app-developers app
ItzSnitz said:
Would you describe some of the customization you've performed with ADW-EX in order to get such a great look? I haven't used the pay version before, so perhaps it is a silly question, but how did you get such large icons on the main page?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Im using 1.3.3.8 which is an over hauled update of the app... All prior versions are clearly not as good.
I downloaded digi clock widget, which has tons of built in theme and stretches out nicely (4X4 widget).
Also disabled action bar in adw, disable dock, and grid set to 4x4 for the homescreens. That's really the foundation of my cosmetic tweaks. Also i completely disabled lockscreen as described in OP so immediately the watch awakens to the clock on the homescreen
Sent from my GT-N7105 using xda app-developers app
Hi guys,
Newbie here. I too bought the ZGPAX smart watch about 3 weeks ago, OEM version. I also purchased another model EC-309 from HOPU watches, which is based on similar hardware MTK6577, Android 4.0 and with the extra that it has 3G network, different hardware layout (camera on the side not front).
Purchased the ZGPAX for around 140$ odd plus shipping, EC-309 on the other hand was priced above $230. Full disclosure, I own a retail store selling OEM Android tablets in Indochina and would like to add smart watches into my product portfolio.
I would like to get some tips on how to extend the battery life seeing as some users managed to be able to get 1 to 1 1/2 days use on a single charge . Rooted the devices, lowered the CPU range. Tried basic user stuff like, screen timeout, brightness. Switched from 3G to GSM. Still cant get more than 6-8hr battery life. Have tried DX battery Saver Pro, this really extend the batt life but at the at the expense of shutting off wifi and 3G (not acceptable solution). Any other ideas?
For those who might be interested, here's a comparison of the two devices
1) ZGPAX touchscreen runs much hotter than the EC-309
2) ZGPAX has superior speakers, music sounds clearer and louder, no distortion at higher levels
3) ZGPAX has SD card slot, EC-309 only has internal 4GB
4) EC-309 slightly better finish, aluminium bezel, ZGPAX feels a little plasticky
5) Similar firmware for both models. Same issues, Google voice, Skype, Facebook crashes or does not work.
6) Similar battery life - 6 to 8 hr max
7) Similar battery monitoring issues - battery indicator not accurate
8) Both models have good wifi and 3G reception
9) EC-309 comes with Launcher 8 as a default..Win 8 style launcher, no custom launcher like ZGPAX.
10) EC-309 uses micro SIM , ZGPAX regular SIM size
Will share more on apps that work for me soon.
kindredd said:
Hi guys,
Newbie here. I too bought the ZGPAX smart watch about 3 weeks ago, OEM version. I also purchased another model EC-309 from HOPU watches, which is based on similar hardware MTK6577, Android 4.0 and with the extra that it has 3G network, different hardware layout (camera on the side not front).
Purchased the ZGPAX for around 140$ odd plus shipping, EC-309 on the other hand was priced above $230. Full disclosure, I own a retail store selling OEM Android tablets in Indochina and would like to add smart watches into my product portfolio.
I would like to get some tips on how to extend the battery life seeing as some users managed to be able to get 1 to 1 1/2 days use on a single charge . Rooted the devices, lowered the CPU range. Tried basic user stuff like, screen timeout, brightness. Switched from 3G to GSM. Still cant get more than 6-8hr battery life. Have tried DX battery Saver Pro, this really extend the batt life but at the at the expense of shutting off wifi and 3G (not acceptable solution). Any other ideas?
For those who might be interested, here's a comparison of the two devices
1) ZGPAX touchscreen runs much hotter than the EC-309
2) ZGPAX has superior speakers, music sounds clearer and louder, no distortion at higher levels
3) ZGPAX has SD card slot, EC-309 only has internal 4GB
4) EC-309 slightly better finish, aluminium bezel, ZGPAX feels a little plasticky
5) Similar firmware for both models. Same issues, Google voice, Skype, Facebook crashes or does not work.
6) Similar battery life - 6 to 8 hr max
7) Similar battery monitoring issues - battery indicator not accurate
8) Both models have good wifi and 3G reception
9) EC-309 comes with Launcher 8 as a default..Win 8 style launcher, no custom launcher like ZGPAX.
10) EC-309 uses micro SIM , ZGPAX regular SIM size
Will share more on apps that work for me soon.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Really depends on how you use the device.... i could get 3 / 4 days out of it, simply using it as a watch to check the time. Streaming wi-fi and videos and downloading stuff is a whole different story. Have you tried changing the CPU Governor? I have not lowered the stock cpu settings... mine sits at 1001mhz max and 250 min. Deep sleeps about 90% of the time
BigBison420 said:
Really depends on how you use the device.... i could get 3 / 4 days out of it, simply using it as a watch to check the time. Streaming wi-fi and videos and downloading stuff is a whole different story. Have you tried changing the CPU Governor? I have not lowered the stock cpu settings... mine sits at 1001mhz max and 250 min. Deep sleeps about 90% of the time
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Much thanks for the quick feedback BigBison! Frankly the watch gets fully used most days, I am actively chatting on WeChat, checking time, playing around with some basic voice recognition apps (utter, voice reading). Am trying to squeeze as much as possible out of the device. Will try to lower the CPU settings to half 667mhz and see if that helps. IO on deadline and Govenor OnDemand.
BTW, Any devs out there want to help with Custom ROMS? Am happy to donate towards the purchase of a smartwatch for the dev if it can help resolve the battery, Skype, Facebook and Voice search issues.
Also heard from my OEM supplier in China that a new version with Android 4.3 will be coming out early 1st Quarter 14. Will keep you guys informed.
kindredd said:
Much thanks for the quick feedback BigBison! Frankly the watch gets fully used most days, I am actively chatting on WeChat, checking time, playing around with some basic voice recognition apps (utter, voice reading). Am trying to squeeze as much as possible out of the device. Will try to lower the CPU settings to half 667mhz and see if that helps. IO on deadline and Govenor OnDemand.
BTW, Any devs out there want to help with Custom ROMS? Am happy to donate towards the purchase of a smartwatch for the dev if it can help resolve the battery, Skype, Facebook and Voice search issues.
Also heard from my OEM supplier in China that a new version with Android 4.3 will be coming out early 1st Quarter 14. Will keep you guys informed.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
wow that is very cool! keep us posted, we love updates! haha
Also if you find useful information or good apps for the watch let me know so i can update the OP in the meantime for other peeps.
Cheers!
There's also Augmented Smart Watch Pro (Play Store), however I suspect it's still the same issue that ZGPAX is a phone, not a watch. Might be worthwhile to reach out to those developers to check their pulse on this application.
BigBison420 said:
Tried to get open watch to work but no go.... I spent a lot of time trying app store apps. Lots of hidden ones too but I'll def post when something works
Sent from my GT-N7105 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

[App] Pedometer using hardware step sensor

{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Hello everyone, since I received my Nexus 5 I have been working on an app that uses the low powered step counter API new in KitKat.
How this is different from most other pedometer apps is that with the hardware step sensor, this app uses almost no additional battery so you can keep it running all day. In my testing I noticed no difference in battery life between a day with Pedometer running and a day without it.
From the Google Play description:
Features:
- Set your goal! It is recommended that you take 10000 steps a day. This app allows you to set a goal that's right for you, and displays your current progress.
- Track your progress! This app will keep track of how much and how far you walked, all day, every day. History is presented neatly, both in a list and a graph for easy viewing.
- Colorful themes: choose one of 5 themes that fill your display with color, or go with the standard holo light or dark. With 7 themes in total, there's one for everyone!
- Low powered: Unlike other pedometer apps, this one will not affect your battery life at all.
- Achievements and leaderboards: sign in with your Google+ account to unlock achievements and compete with your friends in leaderboards!
- Both single-day and multi-day achievements are available
- [Pro only] Walk info: see how far you've walked today. Calorie counter coming soon.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Often times I'm too lazy to carry my Fitbit with me, especially since having it sync to my phone drains battery. With my phone being the pedometer I feel that I've been motivated to be more active.
There is also a pro version you can buy if you'd like to support me. This pro version currently adds a distance counter, so you can see how far you've walked all day. I plan on adding more pro-only features in the future, such as a calorie counter and maybe a widget. But don't worry, the free version will still be perfectly capable of serving as your daily pedometer. If a feature is extremely popular within the pro version I'll consider adding it to the free version as well.
Downloads: Free version, Pro version ($2.99)
I have used only three permissions. One is start on boot. This is used to start counting as soon as you start the device. The other two are write (and therefore read) external storage. This is used solely for the purpose of exporting logs to assist with debugging if the need arises. Don't worry, your data is safe, and this app will not be sending away any of your information.
If you have any questions of suggestions feel free to contact me, I try to respond within the same day.
* * * * * * * * * * *
Changelog
Mar. 27, 2014: v1.2.0
- Added long awaited history feature!
- Multi-day achievements for Google Play Games!
- Another attempt to fix inaccurate step count
- Added option to display imperial units (pro only)
- More UI optimizations and bug fixes for better use experience
- Preparation for new feature: activities!
Jan. 4, 2014: v1.1.2
- UI optimizations
Jan. 2, 2014: v1.1, v1.1.1
- Added Google Play Games (achievements and leaderboards)
- Low priority persistent notification
- Walk info screen [Pro]
- Bug fixes
Dec. 25, 2013: v1.0
- initial release
Gonna give this a go for the next few days. Thanks!
Ok just downloaded it. We will see how it compares to my fitbit one for a week
Sent from my Nexus 5 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
I'm working on a rather big update, includes more Fitbit-like features such as history and activities. The basic features is about done, gonna make it look nice now and test it some more. Might upload a beta apk and post the Google Play beta link here for anyone interested in testing. I'm hoping to officially release the update in a week or so, so stayed tuned!
Have you thought about partnering with a rewards company or something? Would be interesting if you could get coupons or discounts from achieving the 10,000 steps or so.
Love it!
ickboblikescheese said:
I'm working on a rather big update, includes more Fitbit-like features such as history and activities. The basic features is about done, gonna make it look nice now and test it some more. Might upload a beta apk and post the Google Play beta link here for anyone interested in testing. I'm hoping to officially release the update in a week or so, so stayed tuned!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi. I just got my Nexus 5 yesterday. Your app was one of the first I downloaded as I had an S4 and was looking for a low battery pedometer like the S-Health app. Yours looks great, and is pretty accurate (and NO battery drain!). One issue, I had to reboot the phone and when it started again it only showed about half of my steps??... I would love to beta test the app for you. Keep up the good work. (I also would love to have history and be able to see previous days step counts, etc.)
One of my biggest gripes is when driving, all pedometer apps keep counting. There is usually a pause feature or something similar, but it would be ideal if it could detect if you are driving or not. If this is not easily achievable, is there an intent or something else I can use with Tasker to control this app?
Thanks, and it looks really promising!
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
Touchless Control
Good App! thank you for building something like this. I love the statement:
Low powered: Unlike other pedometer apps, this one will not affect your battery life at all.
If its not too much, can you also look into building an app for the always listening/touchless control feature that uses the low powered core? We have another thread with a bounty on this feature.
Har5h
fiftyclick said:
One of my biggest gripes is when driving, all pedometer apps keep counting. There is usually a pause feature or something similar, but it would be ideal if it could detect if you are driving or not. If this is not easily achievable, is there an intent or something else I can use with Tasker to control this app?
Thanks, and it looks really promising!
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Detecting if you are driving or not would require GPS or some form of location service, which negates the advantages of using a low powered sensor. In the current version (1.1.2) there is a pause button, but as I'm removing that in 1.2.0 for something else, you could use Tasker to force stop the app to stop counting, and use Tasker to launch the app/quickly go home to start the counting service again.
hrm5023 said:
Good App! thank you for building something like this. I love the statement:
Low powered: Unlike other pedometer apps, this one will not affect your battery life at all.
If its not too much, can you also look into building an app for the always listening/touchless control feature that uses the low powered core? We have another thread with a bounty on this feature.
Har5h
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry, but I don't know a thing about using hardware specific features. I'm actually quite new to programming, this project is the first big thing I made.
Sent from my Nexus 5
fiftyclick said:
One of my biggest gripes is when driving, all pedometer apps keep counting. There is usually a pause feature or something similar, but it would be ideal if it could detect if you are driving or not. If this is not easily achievable, is there an intent or something else I can use with Tasker to control this app?
Thanks, and it looks really promising!
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't think it kept counting when I was driving the other day. If it did it didn't count a lot.
Accuracy
Hey, has anybody made a accuracy test?
Thanks
Any plans to have this push results to something like FitBit or MyFitnessPal?
As for the driving thing, could you add an option for bluetooth device connected?
Example Interface:
Do not count steps if the following device is connected: (check boxes)
- Car Radio
- Headphones
- Phone Radio
- BlueTooth Headset
Do not count steps if plugged into a power source: (pull down)
USB
AC
Any
Disabled
In this way, you could set the device not to count steps if you are in your car (connected to your car radio via blutooth or maybe plugged into a power source).
I would think the power draw of these options would be in line with your design goal of keeping it to a minimum.
I have not used the app very long (pro version), does it keep track of history? An example would be a daily summary of steps/distance.
In this way, manually importing the information into other fitness trackers is easier.
Thank you for your consideration!
maddbomber83 said:
Any plans to have this push results to something like FitBit or MyFitnessPal?
As for the driving thing, could you add an option for bluetooth device connected?
Example Interface:
Do not count steps if the following device is connected: (check boxes)
- Car Radio
- Headphones
- Phone Radio
- BlueTooth Headset
Do not count steps if plugged into a power source: (pull down)
USB
AC
Any
Disabled
In this way, you could set the device not to count steps if you are in your car (connected to your car radio via blutooth or maybe plugged into a power source).
I would think the power draw of these options would be in line with your design goal of keeping it to a minimum.
I have not used the app very long (pro version), does it keep track of history? An example would be a daily summary of steps/distance.
In this way, manually importing the information into other fitness trackers is easier.
Thank you for your consideration!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What you say about charging and Bluetooth connected should be simple enough to add, I'll see if I can add it. History is also coming in the next version, here's a sneak peek at what I have so far
Of course, your full history will also be viewable and can be exported as CSV, although that part isn't quite done yet.
Sent from my Nexus 5
ickboblikescheese said:
What you say about charging and Bluetooth connected should be simple enough to add, I'll see if I can add it. History is also coming in the next version, here's a sneak peek at what I have so far
View attachment 2536576
Of course, your full history will also be viewable and can be exported as CSV, although that part isn't quite done yet.
Sent from my Nexus 5
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for such a simple app. It worked fine for the first day. However, it's not working now. I have restarted phone, still same result. After first day in the night, i press pause button. Next day i pressed play, but it's not counting steps. Do you have any update coming out soon?
It works, and the UI is "clean" and easy, but the count is not perfetc... can't it be optimized?
matteventu said:
It works, and the UI is "clean" and easy, but the count is not perfetc... can't it be optimized?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's difficult to differential a person physically shaking the phone versus actual walking. The fitbit series face the same problem as well
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
id4398 said:
Thanks for such a simple app. It worked fine for the first day. However, it's not working now. I have restarted phone, still same result. After first day in the night, i press pause button. Next day i pressed play, but it's not counting steps. Do you have any update coming out soon?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Try force stopping it, clearing data, rebooting, then launch it again and press start. It worked fine for me, not sure why that happened. But yes, I do have an update coming out soon, although I've been very busy lately and haven't had time to work on it.
matteventu said:
It works, and the UI is "clean" and easy, but the count is not perfetc... can't it be optimized?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Fixes to step count will be in next release, but not sure when that will be because as I said, very busy. Hopefully I can get it out before I leave for a band trip early February.
detdett said:
It's difficult to differential a person physically shaking the phone versus actual walking. The fitbit series face the same problem as well
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Do you mean it will also count shakes? That's normal, as how it counts by detecting the accelerate/decelerate patterns of walking. It just happens that you can replicate it by shaking. And that's not really a problem of the app specifically, I'm just catching events from when the sensor thinks it detects a step and then displaying that.
Couldnt make it work.. Will try again later tho..
Sent from my Nexus 5 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Same issues with the app picking up steps while driving as others have experienced. 20mile drive this morning, over 3000 steps.
Perhaps a simple logic could be if phone is charging then stop counting.
Other than that app seems pretty good, simple.
does it count miles/km , calories burned etc?

Categories

Resources