Emulation discussion - Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General

I tried this once before and it turned into a douche fest so maybe the 12yr olds will stay away.
Anyway I'm a big emulator fan and the size of the note is perfect and with the sixaxis app its a dream.
I want everyone's thoughts on how far out we are from a PS2 or Xbox emulator. The n64 can be run pretty good and awhile back a guy had a Dreamcast emulator running sonic adventure on a 1gz android phone, of course it was beta and not perfect but it was amazing considering the hardware.
With quad cores now out, 2 gigs of ram and nice GPU chips in place what time frame do you see the next advancement in emulation?
I know there was a PS2 emulator on the market briefly but was pulled as I assume it was fake. In any event, a lot of you are more in tune with the development side and the power it would take or maybe just a hellava programmer to move on so what are your thoughts?
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I use happy bay but my battery dies in like 2 hours. Its awful for rpg games. I can't imagine xbox or ps2 graphics consuming less battery, so my guess it'll be 1 hour before your phone dies. Would like to see an emulator though, and I think its doable.
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Will android have cool games too?

Software houses are developing great games for iPhone 4 (look at RAGE) and WP7...
why google isn't doing anything to attract software houses???
I don't want to trade my nexus for a iPhone 4 or a WP7 but I think i will, because it seems it will never have such cool games (also due to its crappy multitouch)...
I like playing some games while on travel or before sleep..
I thought this "superphone" would have last me 2 years, but it's already old
Anyone having news/rumors on android gaming side? especially N1's side...
3.0 will help, and the next iteration of snapdragons will SERIOUSLY boost the ability of android to compete [unfortunately the 1GHz snapdragons are paired with a rather old gpu]. The 1.5 dual core scheduled for early adoption at christmas will bring 3x the CPU horsepower and 3x the GPU horsepower, SIGNIFICANTLY above the iphone.
ok, but i think that android should standardize hardware to attract software houses, it's like creating games for PC vs games for consoles, the can squeeze the power out of consoles because of their standard hardware, instead they need much more power to run same games on pc due to they different hardwares
EDIT: will it bring 3x ***** also??
There will be no standardized hardware. Just like in PCs. And just like in PCs, there will be games.
normally standardization does not work with open source/open licensing
rumor
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yeah, i saw this rumor around but i dont remember him mentioning android at all in his demo. Also, he forgot to mention that your battery will implode in 10seconds. lol
Here is a game that came out recently Galcon
How about my phone plays psx, gameboy, snes.... Games?
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Yep but most of those games aren't playable because of keys combos that can't be done on our crappy multitouch...
However i was thinking about next gen games
Those rumors are interesting, if true
iOS have more and better games because it's easier to make games for two or three hardware setups, and also because the market is larger (I may be wrong here). The latest sales numbers show that Android kicks total ass at least in the US and is now the number one smart phone platform. That will most probably get more developers interested and we will se some more good games for Android too. It may take a while though, and we may have to wait for newer hardware revisions and Android 3 + as mentioned earlier up here.
Unfortunately all the latest Android devices were released without true multitouch and/or relatively weak GPU's (like graphics card).. Evo, Desire, Incredible, Nexus One etc. are all considered top end devices however none of them have a powerful GPU and some such as Nexus & Desire don't have proper multi touch. I think the release of all these phones definetly shot Android forward in the market and is still doing so now however we're still waiting on the next Android wave to come through bring full multitouch and fast GPU's and then I believe gaming will really take off.
On a side note Galaxy S series phones all have full multitouch & the fastest GPU in anyphone at the moment, more than 3x faster than the one in the iPhone.
Well I play more games on my nexus then I did on my iphone so w.e gran turismo, driver, mario, and a handful of game boy games.
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http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/11/exclusive-sony-ericsson-to-introduce-android-3-0-gaming-platfor/
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saw that a week ago...
on one side it's cool so that many games will be developed on 1ghz snapdragon platform and hopefully our nexus will see that games...but on the other side it's an old platform, honestly i think they should focus on the next generation processors to destroy iphone and bring an uber cool device
There are some really good android games. to name a few. Nova, Hawx, Asphalt5, Needforspeed shift, Hero of sparta, Modern combat, homerun battle, crusade of destiny, Super KO, Speed forge, Raging thunder, Heavy Gunner, Wave blazer, toon warz etc.
I have a n1 and a Vibrant, and let me tell you the vibrant blows the n1 out the water in real world gaming (not just benchmark crap). Games are way smoother on the Vibrant. The n1s Poor fake MT was the reason I got a vibrant, I wanna play some cool games and on the n1 with the crossing axis problem that was next to impossible...
The vibrants MT is flawless. Absolutely great, that mixed with a great GPU I say bring on the good games... Were ready.

Evo as gaming device

I was curious as to how many are using their Evo as a gaming device as well as its other uses. I started off playing some of the simple arcade and puzzle style games but I have recently been playing a couple of fps games from gameloft and I realize that there is a lot of potential for the evo if the developers will continue with it.
I'm playing home run battle 3d and a couple of other games.
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Yeah I have been playing quite a bit of old NES games with nesoid.
CM6 + wiimote + wii steering wheel + gps dash mount + dremel + gorilla glue = emulator fun. I have been mostly playing old SNES games, but I have a 40 minute bus ride to & from work so I have to kill the time somehow.
Until I saw the demo for NOVA and Sandstorm I never realized that 3d gaming had come so far for android. Those are the 2 main games that I am playing right now.
It's perfect for RPG's which is my favorite type of games. Play final fantasy tactics as we speak. I never owned a ps1 myself so theres a lot of rpg games for me to play.
Am I the only who likes Meteor Blitz? It's just about my favorite handheld game of all time! Like a Geometry Wars mobile.
PSXDroid is pretty nice. I continually encounter graphical glitches though, which is utterly annoying.
SandStorm is neat, Nova is a fun FPS as well. Pretty much most of Gamelofts releases are enjoyable. Well, minus Assassin's Creed.
There's a guy working on Starcraft for Android, but I think the projects gone dead in the water.
Finally, Quake III on Android. Or, Kwaak3
Also, this may not be the best place to post anything about iOS, because I know quick people can be to hate on the iPhone. But Steve Jobs aside, who else is impressed by Epic Game's Infinity Blade and Mutant Bash TV by Id running on the Rage iOS engine?
I'm totally floored by it to be honest. Had no idea a 1GHz processor with 512MB RAM could achieve graphics on this level.
It's only a matter of time before a company creates an engine like this for Android Devices. Development is either already in the works or right around the corner.
*Cough* PSP Phone *Cough*
The prospects are incredible! The only thing that bugs me is that I use to play my old GameBoys till the battery died when I was out and about. It will just really suck if I do the same with my EVO. That would put my day dead in the water if I didn't have a back up battery or wall outlet near by....
I am waiting patiently for oooecao to release their games!
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Until I saw the demo for NOVA and Sandstorm I never realized that 3d gaming had come so far for android. Those are the 2 main games that I am playing right now.
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I second that, I'm playing nova as well and it runs smooth with no hiccups.
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I am waiting patiently for oooecao to release their games!
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Elaborate,
Google search = Nothing
I'm curious.
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Am I the only who likes Meteor Blitz? It's just about my favorite handheld game of all time! Like a Geometry Wars mobile.
PSXDroid is pretty nice. I continually encounter graphical glitches though, which is utterly annoying.
SandStorm is neat, Nova is a fun FPS as well. Pretty much most of Gamelofts releases are enjoyable. Well, minus Assassin's Creed.
There's a guy working on Starcraft for Android, but I think the projects gone dead in the water.
Finally, Quake III on Android. Or, Kwaak3
Also, this may not be the best place to post anything about iOS, because I know quick people can be to hate on the iPhone. But Steve Jobs aside, who else is impressed by Epic Game's Infinity Blade and Mutant Bash TV by Id running on the Rage iOS engine?
I'm totally floored by it to be honest. Had no idea a 1GHz processor with 512MB RAM could achieve graphics on this level.
It's only a matter of time before a company creates an engine like this for Android Devices. Development is either already in the works or right around the corner.
*Cough* PSP Phone *Cough*
The prospects are incredible! The only thing that bugs me is that I use to play my old GameBoys till the battery died when I was out and about. It will just really suck if I do the same with my EVO. That would put my day dead in the water if I didn't have a back up battery or wall outlet near by....
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Those iOS games are insane, I can't wait till we have them on Android. Epic has already demoed their Unreal Engine on Android so we will definitely have some sick games coming soon.
BTW, what ROM/theme are you running in the pic in your sig?
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Those iOS games are insane, I can't wait till we have them on Android. Epic has already demoed their Unreal Engine on Android so we will definitely have some sick games coming soon.
BTW, what ROM/theme are you running in the pic in your sig?
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I know, they just need to come out with a decent controller for handheld devices. I almost want to go out and pick up a WiiMote just for my EVO. I have a PS3 controller but I've read that it will probably never happen because of technicalities with bluetooth between the two. I use my PS3 Controller to play Halo on my Netbook, so much fun! Makes airplane flights a breeze.
Just put a vice grip on a pad with a few buttons and put on a MicroUSB connector with an input on the pad for charging and call it done.
I keep reading about people whom have tested some of these Rage iOS games complaining that the controls blow. Especially Mutant Bash TV, it's tilt shift. I mean REALLY!? I tend to get p'd off at DoodleJump, let alone an FPS.
Stock ROM, unREVOked. Theme is custom.
Better off with a epic, you got the keyboard for controls and better GPU.
which is my problem... I don't use my phone for gaming, so it has no use for me lol
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Better off with a epic, you got the keyboard for controls and better GPU.
which is my problem... I don't use my phone for gaming, so it has no use for me lol
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Lol, 4 of my friends recently jumped on to the Epic from TP2's (we all get the same phones, its kinda wierd) But i have an Evo. I play games on mine and its pretty good, but i tell them that games play better on the Epic due to the GPU/CPU and none of them play games, haha.
I got the usual great android games on plus, snesoid,nesoid,gensoid, psx4droid. The emulators are much better when rooted with a kernel that allows for better multi touch,(I'm currently on kings bfs11). I have hundreds games just between the emulators. I would consider psx4droid unplayable unless u had such a kernel. The biggest problem with playing the games is the lack of better multi touch, and thats y I will never b unrooted again.
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they need to change up the controllers. Instead of using the forward, back, left, right motions on the screen, use the gyroscope to do those, and then in the left hand have the movement of the gun, and in the right hand, have the shooting or w/e.
Has anyone here tried Heavy Gunner?
I've been on a real gaming spree ever since I got the Evo!
Super K.O Boxing is really nice
SpeedX 3D is my favorite!
N.O.V.A was a b*t*h to get working, but it's by far the most graphically intense game.
Caligo Chaser is alright if you like more cartoony RPGs. The best part of the game is that when you adjust your gear it visually reflects on the character, lots of choices too!
Fruit Ninja is a fun, friendly style, potentially competitive style game
I just tried Meteor Blitz, thanks for the recommendation! I do wish the movement controls were less sensitive however.
Android is a fantastic platform for gaming, unfortunately it's not the only one and developers are limited
I tried a couple of the emulators but the game rom's I downloaded showed the game on a tiny screen and the controls did not work well at all. I guess I need to try some different games roms. Sandstorm is as graphically intensive as NOVA if not more so. I tried Avatar but the gameplay was a little confusing for me at times. Bottom line is that android is a great gaming platform and the Evo is a good hard device for gaming. I have a kindle and a zuneHD and was getting ready to get a psp. Now the Evo is truly an all in one device for me. It will do what all of those will do. Sure it uses a lot of battery but I would rather switch batteries during the day than to cary 3 or 4 devices and chargers when I travel.
MMORPG: Pocket Legends. That thang was just released today.
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so why is it so hard to get Need for speed shift? why not in the market? why are there no good games in the market? on my old iphone i played many awesome games like nfsshift, street fighter 4, fifa soccer, chaos rings most of all Grand theft Auto chinatown wars. when i look in the market, there a bunch of crappy games, i mean common no words with friends or scrabble or bejeweled? my opinion, get a 64 gb ipod touch, you get your games and great music integration with itunes, plus 32gb extra possible storage. and its thin. i love my evo but no-matter what mods i do to it its not good at graphic intensive stuff, i cant even run the ocean waves wallpaper without it choppin like Jackie chan.
p.s. also looked for pocket legends, nothing in market for that either

Gamimg Thought

Just wanted to say it is amazing to be able to play playstation games on my evo. With the newer beast phones coming out it should be no time to play ps2 and others as well. I never thought I would see the days of playing full console games on a phone. I have also been playing nes,sms,genesis and snes. Brings back memories.....
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lol it is going to be a long long while before you're playing ps2 and xbox games on your phone. PS2 emulation has only recently become truly playable and compatible and needs high end PCs. I know technology evolves fast but I'd say you're still years away from PS2 on your phone unless the device was dedicated to that purpose.
Already a psx emulator
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Already a psx emulator
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major difference between ps1 and ps2....
Then port the current ps2 emulator over
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Ps2 has better graphics. Give it time they'll get it working
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Games on the DHD

I am a recentish owner of the Desire HD. I'm loving it. I flashed a custom rom on it and I love it more. I am well aware of the horsepower in this baby and that iphone 4 is nothing compared to it... My question is this: Why do major game developers avoid android, and go for the iphone throwing out all sorts of super games that would work even better on the DHD (and please avoid the financial part, i'm well aware apple brainwashed many into buying iphone 4).
I had to post this topic because I feel a bit frustrated seeing gameloft develop nova 2, dungeon hunter 2, etc. for iphone and android gets Shrek Kart 3d... REALLY? Ea games barely developed 2-3 games and popcap is in the same boat but with 0 games. (with a near-future release of games).
There are quite a few HD Gameloft games that work just fine. Just not the newest ones that you mentioned (DH2, Nova2 etc) because they just came out for iphone and are probably not ported yet. I'm pretty sure though that they will come out eventually.
Check out their homepage, you can buy all the games directly there. All the good ones are available for android but not all of them are in the market. At least where i live (europe).
Keep in mind that the DHD is half a year old and one of the first really powerful (gaming wise) android devices. So i think in the future lots of good games will come out once the hardware is reasonably spread.
[e] I just read a news that gameloft is working toghether with Qualcomm now (who made the chips for the DHD).
Yes, i know about the android games and where I can buy them from, the thing that bothers me is that games for android are "ported' and not built. It's really demeaning, plus it loses a bit of quality imho
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Yes, i know about the android games and where I can buy them from, the thing that bothers me is that games for android are "ported' and not built. It's really demeaning, plus it loses a bit of quality imho
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The reason is simple:
1. As powerful as the DHD is, the current generation of adreno, lacks in comparison to powervr in the iphone 4, it can shift nearly twice the polygons adreno can.
2. IOS only uses one CPU chipset, there. Are now 2 diffent types used in android (arm & omap) each of these chipsets use diffrent types of textures in 3D games, meaning for android, devs have to write the game twice.....
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I've always been frustrated with gaming on Android. Even since Android 1.5 people have been saying "give it a little while and Android will be equal in terms of gaming" but it still hasn't happened. Not that long I know, but I honestly find it hard to believe it ever will in the gaming area.
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I've always been frustrated with gaming on Android. Even since Android 1.5 people have been saying "give it a little while and Android will be equal in terms of gaming" but it still hasn't happened. Not that long I know, but I honestly find it hard to believe it ever will in the gaming area.
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Now the Tegra II chipset is out, your going to see a massive jump in android gaming, plus android is the only mobile platform with a fully functional N64 emulator, and theres rumors the makers of NullDC are working on a dreamcast emulator for android
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Gaming has improved and quite a lot. Have you tried Gunbros, Fruit Ninja, Dungeon Defender, Mega Jump, Rocket Bunnies, Angry birds, Reckless racing.
And the futur is looking brighter with the Unity engin (IOS most famous game engine) being ported to android.
Well, indeed the processor architectures differ in android. But major game developers hsouldnt have an issue with building two games, they have enough people. ALso are the games so easily built on the iphone? because android is always the last platform that something gets released on...

[Q] xperia play not powerfull enough so which 1 best out of sony s1 and ps vita

xperia play not powerfull enough so which 1 best out of sony s1 and ps vita like many are trying to decide which has better processer which will be able to play games better have more emulators on fuction better what do you think
First of. Try to use some "." and "," in your text. It's really hard to read.
But to answer your question. My vote goes for Vita.
Yup, same goes here. Ps vita would be your choice. Having a quad core chipset and all.
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Yeah, Xplay can't compete with all those gaming console out there but remember,it is a phone. Meant to be a phone + game player. Not a dedicated gaming portable console. I already own xperia play,I'll think I'll pass Sony S2(S1 is the normal type of tablets) and opt for Vita instead. I'm a trophy whore on a Playstation 3 system.
The Vita wont have any emulators until it can be cracked to run homebrew.
I think this is unlikely to happen until at least another 1-2 years.
Wait a second. The Vita better than the S1? S1 better than Vita? They are two so different devices and can't be compared!
- The Vita has a great hardware, yes, but if you don't want a console it will be a bit dumb to buy it.
- The S1 is a tablet witch is focused to multiple purposes (thanks to Android and his apps) but is not as powerful as the Vita.
So just think if you just want a super-handheld console just for gaming or a portable mini-computer-pda wich allows to do more things.
PS: yes, the Vita will have apps too, but we all know that it won't have the big variety that an Android OS based device has.
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xperia play not powerfull enough so which 1 best out of sony s1 and ps vita like many are trying to decide which has better processer which will be able to play games better have more emulators on fuction better what do you think
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Why is it not powerful enough? It runs any PS emulated game and any Android game perfectly fine....
In terms of graphics processing, the vita is in a diffrent league to the Tablet S and Tablet P. They both use the NVIDA Tegra II chipset. Although the Tegra II is a dual core chipset. It struggles to surpass the Adreno 205 GPU in the xperia play!
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Why is it not powerful enough?
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I don't mean to offend... but when someone posts such a black and white synopsis; they come off as another one of those random G4-quality wannabe techie scrubs who go off clock speed without knowing anything about the technology that actually matters.
It's certainly not dual-core, but it's got some very snappy, very high-quality memory (better than any smartphone out), tons of under-the hood optimizations made for a premium gaming experience as well as a beastly acceleration chip.. and it really shows in the performance. As a single-core phone, Xperia PLAY manages to break it's way into the level of performance that's supposed to only be attainable by dual-cores. It's doing quite well at playing those Tegra Zone games just as smoothly as the Atrix.
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I don't mean to offend... but when someone posts such a black and white synopsis; they come off as another one of those random G4-quality wannabe techie scrubs who go off clock speed without knowing anything about the technology that actually matters.
It's certainly not dual-core, but it's got some very snappy, very high-quality memory (better than any smartphone out), tons of under-the hood optimizations made for a premium gaming experience as well as a beastly acceleration chip.. and it really shows in the performance. As a single-core phone, Xperia PLAY manages to break it's way into the level of performance that's supposed to only be attainable by dual-cores. It's doing quite well at playing those Tegra Zone games just as smoothly as the Atrix.
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Exactly. When I see posts like this I just don't get it, because if you play a game on it, and you play a game on something else, you're not going to see a difference! In fact it may even run better on the Play! And not one emulated game (that works) runs bad.
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I don't mean to offend... but when someone posts such a black and white synopsis; they come off as another one of those random G4-quality wannabe techie scrubs who go off clock speed without knowing anything about the technology that actually matters.
It's certainly not dual-core, but it's got some very snappy, very high-quality memory (better than any smartphone out), tons of under-the hood optimizations made for a premium gaming experience as well as a beastly acceleration chip.. and it really shows in the performance. As a single-core phone, Xperia PLAY manages to break it's way into the level of performance that's supposed to only be attainable by dual-cores. It's doing quite well at playing those Tegra Zone games just as smoothly as the Atrix.
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THANK YOU for clearing this misconception up!
Also Back on the Topic.
The main problem with Vita (as mentioned above) is that most of its potential will not be available to you until it is opened up (unlocked, cracked, jailbroken etc.).
You are likely going to be stuck only using what sony provides which will still be pretty darn good. Massive selection of psp games, ps1 classics, psn games... all at launch (since most of this stuff is already on psn).
Your best bet at emulating older systems up to the psx and playing mobile games is still the Xperia play. You get the convenience of it being a phone (among other things) as well as it being a great bang for your buck. This price just keeps dropping!
I'm sorry but any way you slice it the Xperia Play is an incredible value especially if you are a gamer. Just my opinion.
Let's see, what's better? A Phone, a Dualcore Tablet, or a dedicated gaming handheld that's not even out yet?
Apples, Oranges, and Bananas.
i will have all 3 lol, already have the play and tablet s.
X play for phone, emulators, jogging with runkeeper and music, control pad optimized games.
Tablet S for couch/coffee shop and in bed surfing/movie playback/reading and touch friendly games.
PS Vita as hardcore home console and portable games. Hoping its like the PSP go where you can hook it up to a tv and use dual shock 3 etc.
I had a go on the new sony tablet today in pcworld, very average to put it nicely!
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Hoping its like the PSP go where you can hook it up to a tv and use dual shock 3 etc.
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I'm 100% positive the Vita will not have Dual Shock support or TV out.
I think they're trying to make it less a competitor for the PS3 by doing that, while also nullifying the argument of "If I was going to play at home I'd use a REAL console" that I would always hear from 360 fanboys
If only gaming isn't it obvious the PS Vita is the way to go?
Comparing mangos, papayas and kumquats.
Each of those devices is designed to cater to specific needs.
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Unless there will be a tablet with hardware gamepad don't get it for gaming.
on the other hand Onlive.com in us and onlive.co.uk in the uk is very promising alternative for not chasing new and latest hardware All the time. Once they (very soon promissed) launch android app any tablet could be connected with a regular console controller and you just play latest games from the cloud (or maybe your own pc using rdp or similar ) as long as you are online. Same is no problem with xplay. The point i,m making is that the specs of tablet without hardware gamepad are not so important in my opinion for gaming.
For offline hardcore gaming vita will be the best.
Hope it helps.
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Unless there will be a tablet with hardware gamepad don't get it for gaming.
on the other hand Onlive.com in us and onlive.co.uk in the uk is very promising alternative for not chasing new and latest hardware All the time. Once they (very soon promissed) launch android app any tablet could be connected with a regular console controller and you just play latest games from the cloud (or maybe your own pc using rdp or similar ) as long as you are online. Same is no problem with xplay. The point i,m making is that the specs of tablet without hardware gamepad are not so important in my opinion for gaming.
For offline hardcore gaming vita will be the best.
Hope it helps.
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OnLive launched there app for android ages ago with the HTC Flyer. At the moment it's just a viewer though and you can't actually play anything This version works fine with the play
I found the Xperia Play plenty powerful in my review with great battery life

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