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Hi guys. I've been running the Android Stock Desire build from Cotulla for a few months now. Every once in a while I'd get a freeze, but then a battery in, and out would fix the problem (usually within the first try. sometimes I need to do this a few times, but no more than 5 times)
However, since last Friday my phone has been crashing like crazy! Constant crashes at random stages, and even reboots. Removing the battery also didnt guarantee a fix. I think I may have tried it about a hundred times, and Android just crashed at a random point in time during every boot. Eventually it booted, but since then it has crashed again! I figured that perhaps I should try a newer build.
I've decided to try out this build: [08.MAR.2011][CWM]TyphooN CyanogenMod 7 RC2 v2.5.4[2.3.3][A2SD/RAM][rafpigna OC 1.8]. Since I already have radio 2.15.50.14, these are the steps I've taken:
- Flash Task29 (ShaDrac version).
- Flash MAGLDR 1.13
- Flash ClockworkMod Recovery v1.3 135M System
- Flash CM7
Now, even during the various stages before flashing the CM7 rom, I would get freezes during the MAGLDR 1.13 bootscreen, or recovery won't load and I'll get stuck on the GOGOGO screen. Also, copying the zip file over in the MAGLDR mass storage mode won't work, and causes a freeze when I start the copy. Reset, or Battery removal seems to get me to the next step again.
Eventually I've flashed CM7, but now it freezes at the setup stage.
I'm starting to think maybe its not the various Android builds that I'm trying, but perhaps the problem lies somewhere else on the phone? Any ideas? Is my radio perhaps not the best one for the phone (even though its the latest)?
Any help will be much appreciated.
Regards,
XA83
Shameless bump (hope I'm not breaking any rules!)
I realize this post should have probably been under the CM7 thread as well, but I don't have access to that yet due to my low post count...
Could be:
*Wrong CWM Size, check in the rom thread for information
*leftover data, task 29 and reinstall everything
*Corrupted data on SD card, try booting without sd card to see if this is the case.
Thanks for the reply.
I've removed both the SD card and the SIM card. Phone seems to work flawlessly. Boots CM7 without a hitch. Next step I've added the SD card back, and formatted the card from the CM7 settings page. Still perfect.
I've tried it about 5 times now and every time the SIM card is not present, the phone works like a dream. Every time I put the SIM card in, CM7 crashes within the first few seconds of showing the home screen.
Finally, some progress!! Thanks again for the assistance. However, what dis this mean? Could this be related to the actual SIM card I'm using, or does it have to do with the part where it initiates the network connection and possibly the 3g connection?
*Also, just for information, I believe that I do have the correct CMW size. The build indicates "Flash ClockworkMod Recovery v1.3 135M System" which is the one I've flashed.
maybe reflash back to winmo then do evrything all overagain to android
I doubt it's an issue with the phone and its initiating with the sim card. Just replace the sim card
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Hi Guys,
So since my last posts I have actually managed to get the phone running Typhoon's CM7 and its been working great... for a while.
I'm currently on version 3.0.4 and I still get:
1) Freezes,
2) Reboots,
3) SOD,
4) This happened today: phone cuts mid-phone call and makes a loud buzzing noise until I pull the battery.
I'm thinking more towards hardware problem at the moment, but please let me know what you think, and what I can do to debug the sitaution. Is there perhaps a hardware monitoring app that I can install that logs the whole system every 1 minute that I'll be able to pick something up.
I was also thinking maybe the phone overheats. As explained in my original post, whenever a crash or reboot occurs, it would sometimes not restart the first time round after pulling the battery out and putting it back in. Sometimes I get crashes even during the MAGLDR stage with "fatal hit" and strange things like that. Or even when I boot into CWM sometimes.
Now, to test this overheating, I've experimented with placing my phone in the fridge for 5 minutes after a crash. Thusfar I've done this 3 times, and every time I get a clean boot when I put the cold battery back in and then the phone functions perfectly for a while.
So, overheating, or do I perhaps need another radio? I'm out of ideas.
Any help will be much appreciated. The problem now is that I'm so used to android that I wont be able to go back to winmo or even blackberry
Regards,
XA83
it happens to my phone, and did on my previous HD2.
I've tried every build, task 29, every radio...new sd card....everything.
matt
Are there any apps we can run to test battery temp, cpu temp, cpu voltage or anything like that? I'm pretty effecient at debugging PC hardware issues, but when it comes to my phone I feel like I'm back in the stoneage!
Please help
I have tried over and over and over and over on this kind of issue.
most if the time was some unfinished coppied file which can;t runs properly on roms.
Try to asks ROM developer.
- SD partition : how many partititons?
- SD partitions : what kind of partitions, is it using etc 2/3/4, does it comes with swap etc?
- Installation method : does it needs to clear phone ROM with cwr ? what is the size?
HD2 usually I will go for 400M size
- config.txt settings for SD/NAND.
A proper guide could helps you on in the installations
If you guys are having overheating problems resulting in freezes, you might want to use SETCPU and set a lower maximum frequency. Something like 800-900 mhz might keep your cpu's from getting too hot. Or maybe setting it to a different governor could help too, idk for sure.
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huggs said:
If you guys are having overheating problems resulting in freezes, you might want to use SETCPU and set a lower maximum frequency. Something like 800-900 mhz might keep your cpu's from getting too hot. Or maybe setting it to a different governor could help too, idk for sure.
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Possible solution, Thanks mate,
I changed the CPU speed to 1036 Mhz from stock 998 Mhz speeds and haven't had a Freeze yet,
before that The touch screen would freeze occasionaly when there was a lot of activity like in games such as fruit ninja ....
a Lower CPU speed such as 806 Mhz also seemed to do the trick ...
I don't understand why the Freezes would occur at stock speeds ...
I'll have to give it a few days though ...
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huggs said:
If you guys are having overheating problems resulting in freezes, you might want to use SETCPU and set a lower maximum frequency. Something like 800-900 mhz might keep your cpu's from getting too hot. Or maybe setting it to a different governor could help too, idk for sure.
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Update:
Tried that with Interactive Governer, it still freezes on odd occasions, and the battery temp shows 33-36 Degrees Celcius on load when running games ...
i'm beginning to think the freeze is temperature related, as it never freezes while it's cool ...
I'm going to try running it with Smartass governer and see if it makes any difference ...
regards.
Yeah, there's been alot of HD2 owners who've had high-temp related freezes, one guy even went as far as to dissassemble his phone, re-bond the cpu to his mainboard, and add a home-made heat sync to prevent further overheating (successfully)
I just figured changing the cpu freq or governor might reduce cpu load, or increase efficiency, resulting in less overheating. But I feel pretty confident in saying that you guys' freezes are very likely coming from heat. It was even a problem in stock WinMo roms
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Yawp, I can barely charge my phone with the silicone case on anymore and that's in ac (the AC in my house is usually set at 74F) I have noticed I get freezes at 36C however I can go to the beach and get it up to 44C and it runs flawlessly
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Dylan Wilson said:
Yawp, I can barely charge my phone with the silicone case on anymore and that's in ac (the AC in my house is usually set at 74F) I have noticed I get freezes at 36C however I can go to the beach and get it up to 44C and it runs flawlessly
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Thats wierd, I'd have thought that such a High Temp as 44 Degrees C would cause more freezes ....
regards.
i'm getting freezes from cyanogenmod android too. i recently restored my ROM to the original 2.13 and believed to have all previous settings related to android deleted.
freezing
i realy didnt undrestand what the exactly means of freeze, my phone freeze after change rom ,i can't use "TyphooN CyanogenMod " becuz my phone freeze at the android logo and it didnt any animation to boot !!!
i have hspl8 , radio 2.15.50 ,Recovery_130M_system_4M_cache[v3.0.2.4],mgldr 13.
i install windows then install android but it steel frezz, i can install just HyperDroid-GBX rom !!
it this problem fix with cpu temp ??
i get it in Refrigerator still feee !!
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Hi guys. It's definitely the overheating causing all the freezes. I've now succesfully "fixed" my phone 11/11 times by placing it in the freezer and then it works flawlessly for at least a day.
I'll try setCPU to try and lower the CPU frequency from stock and prevent heat issues.
However, ideally I'd like to return the phone to the manufacturer as a defective one! Only problem - how do you convince the 'genius' tech guy that the phone overheats. Last thing I want is to send the phone in, and only get it back after a few months with some response that they found nothing wrong.
Hence, I'm still looking for some sort of app to prove in a way that the overheating is causing crashes... At least in that case they may be more likely to issue a replacement immediately. Any ideas yet?
Regards,
XA83
Just a follow up:
My phone has been sent back to HTC. After a long wait, tech support said they replaced the hardware components - I'm assuming the phone mainboard.
I've reflashed CM7 since, and it hasn't crashed a single time!
Verdict: Random freezes was caused by hardware problems on the phone, and the crashes was most likely due to overheating of the components.
Regards,
XA83
I've got a problem with my I9000, several times throughout the day it will randomly restart itself. It will be quite happily sat idle in my pocket not doing anything, and then suddenly I hear the boot-up sound from my pocket. It's just started doing this since Thursday or Friday I think it was, had nearly 700 hours uptime on it (699 hours ) and then I noticed from my SeePU notification that something was hammering the processor, running it at >90% for more than 10 minutes. Couldn't see any programs running in the background so decided to restart the phone. This is one my problem started.
It's running stock JPY with Voodoo Advance kernal, it was overclocked to 1.2GHz and had some undervolting from 800MHz down, this had been stable for all of those 699 hours, but I disabled the OC and UV yesterday to see if it was that causing the trouble, but even with it disabled the phone's still been restarting.
What would be really great is if there is some kind of crash log for Android (something similar to the Windows Event Viewer) so I can see what's causing this. Does anyone know if such a thing exists, and if it does how I might go about accessing it?
Failing that, anyone know why my phone would suddenly start restarting itself now?
had pretty much the same issue, different kernal and rom... but had an OV/UV that for the most part was stable...
then today was continually restarting.....
solution?
changed CPU scheduler to noop
changed CPU Governor to conservative (Galaxy S cpu default configuration)
Now not restarting at all... and that's with a 1.3GHz overclock... running several benchmarks and no undervolting at all.
I'll let you know if it starts acting up... but interesting that this at least fixed it for me.
Stupid thing has restarted itself twice this morning. This is ridiculous.
I've just set the schedular to noop, can't see an option to set the governor though. Will see if that sorts it.
Would really appreciate knowing if there's a log file or something though
If it was a PC you would say its overheating .
jje
Found an app on the market called OS Monitor that shows all the running processes and what load they're putting on the CPU, it also shows the dmesg and logcat log files.
Thankfully my phone hasn't restarted itself since changing the schedular, but if it does I should hopefully now be able to find out why
quick answer. Reflash the phone .
I guess reflashing and removing some dangerous apps will be good for you phone.
Hmm, well looks like it's given up on restarting itself and is just plain turning itself off now.
Looks like I'm going to have to reflash the stock kernal and see if that fixes it
For the past few days I seemed to be getting a lot of random force close errors on my legend, with no discernible pattern. This continued up to the point where all of a sudden pretty much every app crashed and wouldnt remain open more than a few seconds. I then tried to reboot, and since then the phone just gets stuck in a bootloop at the rom loading screen. I've tried four or five different roms, all with the same error.
I would assume this was a memory/processor malfunction, however the fact that I can still flash roms and make backups with clockwordmod suggests to me the hardware could be ok? Does anybody know of some sort of diagnostic rom I could run to check this?
Thanks guys
Matt
Here's some stuffs to check out, don't over clock, Max 600mhz, not every phone can be oc'd, maybe even try less processor speed say 480 MHz. Have u been ocing your phone on extream speed for long time, like 806+ mhz, that will kill a processor for sure.
Have you done a fix permissions with clockwork mod? This can help heaps with fc's.
If using an ext partition which type are you using 2 3 or 4, apparantly if your using ext4 and your phone is crashing it can cause even more issues.
Using lots if widgets on your screens?
Have you tried a different/new SD card?
My understanding is your rom space can eventually fail if your flashing lots n lots of roms, but you said you can flash successfully, so that sounds good.
There is a few to start you off.
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Amazingly I have managed to completely fix the problem. In a last moment of desperation before buying a new phone I decided to try wiping the battery stats, simply because I had never tried it before (didnt see the need to). Miraculously this did the trick, and I managed to boot into cyanogen 6!
I then restored a backup I made when the phone first died, and confirmed it was still broken as I expected. I then wiped the battery stats , and viola it worked!
I have no idea what is stored in the battery stats, but I am very surprised this made a difference. Thanks for your help anyway ranger.
Here's the rundown ...
Last night I was playing a little Nimble Quest before bed. I started to get tired so I quit out of the game and as I was turning the phone back into portrait mode the screen went black (still on) and seemingly froze. I let it chill for a bit, then it vibrated and I heard my notification sound. I let it go again and a few seconds later it did it again (vibrate/sound). This happened a couple more times before I decided to hold down the power button and attempt to shut it down. After holding the power down for about 5-6 seconds, the phone rebooted itself. It stayed on the CM boot screen for what seemed like 5 minutes--long enough for me to think it was bootlooping. Finally I saw the screen brightness lower and the lockscreen came up. My background was there but all of my homescreen icons were gone. All of my apps were there, but all of the data was gone. Rather than deal with it at 1AM, I put it on the charger and let it go.
This morning I did a full wipe and restored a nandroid backup from the 20th. Everything seemed back to normal. When I got to work I reflashed the CM10.1 stable that just came out and faux's mainline 16 kernel, effectively bringing my phone back to the state it was before last night's drama. I got up from my desk to get coffee and when I returned I noticed my phone was on with a yellow screen that read:
HW reset was detected!
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DemiGod Crash Handler : HW reset was detected!
There was some other stuff too but I decided to Google it before I did any of the things listed on the screen. I found a post in the Optimus G forum describing the same thing. One of the members said to hold down the power button until the phone shuts down, then restart and everything would be cool. No one else in the post seemed to see it as a big deal.
I went ahead and did what was recommended and my phone seems to be OK. Nothing weird has happened since then.
I guess my question is: what could've caused this? Is it my ROM/kernel combo or is it more likely the actual hardware? Should I be alarmed? My phone is less than a month old. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
I'm not an expert here, so I might not be the best source of advice, but I'll try.
The 'HW reset' message is kind of weird. I assume it means hardware reset. Out of curiosity, are you playing with the voltages or clock speed of your processor? Maybe it went out of the fringes of usability and crashed. Although if that happened, I'm not sure if the system would realize it and automatically recalibrate it (hence the 'HW reset').
You said you were playing a game called Nimble Quest when you first had issues? Is that a really resource-intensive game? Maybe your chip overheated, and the system freaked out and reset something. Then again, there was plenty of time between that and when you actually saw the screen so I doubt that.
I couldn't tell you, OP. That is very strange indeed. Did anyone in the thread you found about the Optimus G have any suggestions as to the cause?
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I'm not an expert here, so I might not be the best source of advice, but I'll try.
The 'HW reset' message is kind of weird. I assume it means hardware reset. Out of curiosity, are you playing with the voltages or clock speed of your processor? Maybe it went out of the fringes of usability and crashed. Although if that happened, I'm not sure if the system would realize it and automatically recalibrate it (hence the 'HW reset').
You said you were playing a game called Nimble Quest when you first had issues? Is that a really resource-intensive game? Maybe your chip overheated, and the system freaked out and reset something. Then again, there was plenty of time between that and when you actually saw the screen so I doubt that.
I couldn't tell you, OP. That is very strange indeed. Did anyone in the thread you found about the Optimus G have any suggestions as to the cause?
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At the time I was using faux's kernel and his FauxClock app. Processor speeds were set to his recommended for good battery life (384 min 1512 high, intellidemand). Also, I can't imagine Nimble Quest being very demanding. It's a 2D, 16bit style snake-type game. No one in the Optimus G thread had another other suggestions than holding power down to restart.
So the night before last I had another episode with soft reboots. I couple in a row. No data loss, but still annoying. This morning I decided to ditch faux's kernel and flash the latest CM nightly (people have been saying the nightlies are pretty much just as stable as the RC/stables). Just about 15 minutes ago, I was playing Nimble Quest again and had the same problem. I quit out of the game and the screen went black, but still on. I felt a quick vibe and heard my notification sound. Count a few seconds and it happened again. I held down power for a few seconds and the phone shut down. I booted back up and everything seems to be there except for my wallpaper. I've tried setting a new wallpaper and it's not working. I just get a solid black background.
At this point I'm really worried that it's my hardware and not the ROM/kernel/software. How should I go about testing this? I assume the most foolproof way would be to flash the factory image and run it stock for a while to see if I have problems. Before I go that route should I try a full wipe, CM install and forego restoring my apps with TiBu? Could it be a corrupt app or data causing this issue?
Again, any help is appreciated.
I used to have it too when I was using Faux kernel. Turning off C3 and C4 in FauxClock fixed it for me.
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At the time I was using faux's kernel and his FauxClock app. Processor speeds were set to his recommended for good battery life (384 min 1512 high, intellidemand). Also, I can't imagine Nimble Quest being very demanding. It's a 2D, 16bit style snake-type game. No one in the Optimus G thread had another other suggestions than holding power down to restart.
So the night before last I had another episode with soft reboots. I couple in a row. No data loss, but still annoying. This morning I decided to ditch faux's kernel and flash the latest CM nightly (people have been saying the nightlies are pretty much just as stable as the RC/stables). Just about 15 minutes ago, I was playing Nimble Quest again and had the same problem. I quit out of the game and the screen went black, but still on. I felt a quick vibe and heard my notification sound. Count a few seconds and it happened again. I held down power for a few seconds and the phone shut down. I booted back up and everything seems to be there except for my wallpaper. I've tried setting a new wallpaper and it's not working. I just get a solid black background.
At this point I'm really worried that it's my hardware and not the ROM/kernel/software. How should I go about testing this? I assume the most foolproof way would be to flash the factory image and run it stock for a while to see if I have problems. Before I go that route should I try a full wipe, CM install and forego restoring my apps with TiBu? Could it be a corrupt app or data causing this issue?
Again, any help is appreciated.
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Hm, this is an interesting bug indeed. I guess first, I would try
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I used to have it too when I was using Faux kernel. Turning off C3 and C4 in FauxClock fixed it for me.
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If that doesn't work, I would at least try a different kernel. If that does nothing, I would try changing ROM, and without restoring any apps or data. Is the only time you can get this problem with that specific game? If so, the game itself might be a faulty-coded game. If you get this problem elsewhere, try messing around on the newly-flashed ROM in the other areas you can replicate this. If you can't get it to soft-brick, try downloading that game and playing it on the fresh ROM/kernel. If you still get it, try flashing another kernel again. Basically, try 2 different ROMs, each with 2 different kernels, with and without Nimble Quest. Might seem like overkill, but I'm just trying to completely eliminated ROM/kernel problems, and any app problems. If none of that works, I really don't know what to say, maybe it really is a hardware issue.
Tonight, I'll try downloading Nimble Quest and playing it for a bit to replicate the issue. Is it just playing the game in general that crashes, or is it specific actions that you've found that really trigger it? From what I've read, the issue seems to pop up when you quit the game. I assume that just means hitting the Home key? I've read the reviews on the Play page and can't find one that complains about system-wide problems. I have a feeling it isn't the app, but it doesn't hurt for me to try and replicate the issue. If I get it, that means it's either the game, or specific settings both you and I share, and we will need to dig a little deeper to find out what it could be. Anyway, I'll mess with it a bit tonight and get back to you tomorrow if you haven't already found the cause/solution.
It happens every time the modem crashes. Earlier it just used to reboot without giving the message.
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Recently I upgraded my Nook Color from CyanogenMod 7.2 to CyanogenMod 10.1 stable. After that, somehow, it kept shutting down every half a minute or so when in use and when left alone. I did not touch the battery, the CPU is clocked at 300 MHz to 1.1 GHz, screen set to 16 bit mode, GPU untouched. Has anyone else had this problem and is there a way to fix it? Thanks in advance.
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Recently I upgraded my Nook Color from CyanogenMod 7.2 to CyanogenMod 10.1 stable. After that, somehow, it kept shutting down every half a minute or so when in use and when left alone. I did not touch the battery, the CPU is clocked at 300 MHz to 1.1 GHz, screen set to 16 bit mode, GPU untouched. Has anyone else had this problem and is there a way to fix it? Thanks in advance.
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I upgraded to the latest stable CM10.1.2 release and have started getting random sleep of deaths (SD install). I've had them while plugged in, not plugged in, with screensaver on, with screensaver off (thought maybe keeping it active would help prevent)... I can't seem to find a pattern. I've tried every nightly since and am still seeing it. I tried rolling back to the first stable release, still there. I'm going to try rolling back from 1100 MHz to 1000, then 800, to see if that helps at all.
I'm a total newb to debugging this thing, but I'm happy to try and pull any logs to post if someone can point me in the right direction (I've looked around before on how to do this but get confused easily). Also, I'd be willing to try a clean install, but don't want to go through the hassle of reinstalling everything again. If there is a quick way to backup programs, I'm all ears.
The good news is, it runs great when it's up. Quite smooth. Pretty awesome stuff.
I believe Titanium Backup should back everything up.....
I have downgraded to CyanogenMod 7.2 as I am very exasperated with this issue, the short battery life and lagginess that the upgrade has brought.