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Hi All
I need help to upgrade my HD2 to Windows 7
I bought an HTC Hd2 in India.
details :
OS version:
5.2.21889
Manila Version:
2.5.19211619
ROM Version:
1.48.720.2
ROM date:
11/25/09
Radio Version:
2.05.51.05.02
I tried to upgrade ROM twice but it never worked..
Can some one help me to install windows 7 & Android in my HD2.
Thanks in advance

Seems you're still running an original untouched rom on your phone.
Prior to install WP7, you should follow this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611433
Once done, install magdlr 1.12 and follow the instructions here to flash correctly WP7
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=912416
Pay attention that this will probably void the warranty of your phone.

Many thanks for reply
I had upgraded ROM to 3.14.720.3
When I treid to install magdlr 1.12 It was trowing error so could not able to install..
do I need to downgrade ROM version ?

downgrade ROM version
Can someone help me to downgrade the ROM version from3.14.720.3 to 1.48.720.2
also please let me know where can I download 1.48 ROM
many thanks in advance

If you want to install WP7 to your HD2 then a video tells you more then 1000 words:
http://www.youtube.com/results?sear...+htc+hd2&aq=0&oq=how+to+install+windows+phone
I took on my first time the first video, on this the developer has an android system but that doesn't matter because he delets all data and installs a clean WP7 on it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nac3Fnf-lY4
Follow the video and you will learn how to.
Just a personal hint: make a hard reset after task 29 and use a radio 2.15.50 not above!!

[Q] HTC LEO software architecture

Hello,
I have a T8585 SH08LNW01064.
It's originally an orange one.
I use SFR, (i change my phone in a reparation shop after breaking the screen of my original one)
When had it i used HSPL3_PKG.exe and flash it with RUU_Leo_S_HTC_FRA_3.14.406.2_Radio_15.42.50.11U_2.15.50.14_LEO_S_Ship.exe downloaded from htc site.
I now realize that this ROM is not that i expected and i want to try ARTEMIS. BUt i don't arrive to flasch it now and i realize that i don't rellay understand the architecture of ROMs in my fone... as far has i understand the SPL or(HSPL or SSPL) is a kind of boot software who alllow the installation of only some type of ROM. After this there is the OS ROM, the driver ROM (RADIO)....
So my questioin are :
Is there any schematic or definition about the full architecture of HTC HD ROM, a compatibility board??
What is excatly the meaning of SPL HSPL SSPL, what are they roles?
I would like to know how does the differents ROM are linked, what are the constraint?
I mean as an electronician i imagine that the electrical part of the mobiles fone are the same so normally i can flash everything on every fone... But i realize it's not the case and i don't arrive to catch how does it work//
Thank You.

OK I can not fully answer your question here, but i will share what I know, also check out my little guide i wrote linked in my sig,
The bootloader is made up of what is called IPL and SPL. IPL stands for Initial Progam Loader which is resonsable for loading and initializing the hardware of the device on boot up. Without this the device does not work, it will not even turn on. This is why when you brick a device it will not turn on because you have removed or currupted the bootloader which contains the IPL. SPL stands for Secondary Program Loader wich is responsable for loading or booting up your ROM and allowing you to flash another ROM to your device. SPL wil only allow official or Signed ROMs to be flashed to your device this is due to the CID. HSPL stands for Hard Secoundary Program Loader wich does the same thing as SPL but the deference between SPL and HSPL is SPL can be changed flashing a singed ROM via RUU and HSPL can not be changed when flashing a signed ROM via RUU. HSPL also disables the CID and allows unofficial or custom ROMs to be flashed to your device.
Also software on phones and mobile devices are usually device spacific so you can not use it on other devices. This is why you can not just flash any kind of device software to your device. Bootloaders are very devices spacicic with out a bootloader a device will not do anything.
I do not know of any schematic or the such that is accessable by the general public or atleast I have not found one.

Just check out his guide. I think it'll give you what you need.

Kailkti said:
Just check out his guide. I think it'll give you what you need.
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If you have some of what the OP is asking for please by all means send it to me via PM also as my brain hungers for information LOL.
But seriously I would love to see anything you have are any info you can provide.

Hi!
Thanks for ur reply, sorry that i didn't find out the information in the forum before.
It's start to be more understandable for me.
So now next step, is how to identify exactly the model of my fone? i have the serial number, but i didn't wrote down what was the SPL and version i originally had
What are the limitations? why i can't simply put the latest version of HSPL, and flash all rom i want? Is there different electrical model of T8585 wich correspond to some specific SPL, wich correspond to specific ROM? Or is it just a question of association of good SPL/HSPL/ROM
And is there a compatibility board?
ANs i don't really understand the notion of bricking fone: it only happen if you damage your IPL, but as far as i understand, the IPL is never changed when you falsh ROM: at maximum you change the SPL...????
About ROMs:
I have:
official HTC 3.14.406.2 (04666) FRE
This ROM contain
System version 5.2.21913 (21913.5.0.94)
Manila 2.5.20181527.0
Radio drivers 2.15.50.14
Protocol version 15.42.50.11U
Here i don't understand well what is contained in the ROM and what could be changed separaltly, i mean i read about RADIO ROM... it means that i can flash a radio ROM separatly of the HTC official ROM?
I didn't undestand exactly also what are the different function of these:
System version: it's the operating system part of the ROM: WINDOW6.5???
Manila: It's the MMI developed by HTC, the "SENSE"???
Radio it's the drivers dor the radio chipset in my phone??
Protocol version i don't have a clue of what is it??
And is it for example the same radio wich are used for android and window?
Thanks again for your help.

Guilhem31 said:
Hi!
Thanks for ur reply, sorry that i didn't find out the information in the forum before.
It's start to be more understandable for me.
So now next step, is how to identify exactly the model of my fone? i have the serial number, but i didn't wrote down what was the SPL and version i originally had
What are the limitations? why i can't simply put the latest version of HSPL, and flash all rom i want? Is there different electrical model of T8585 wich correspond to some specific SPL, wich correspond to specific ROM? Or is it just a question of association of good SPL/HSPL/ROM
And is there a compatibility board?
ANs i don't really understand the notion of bricking fone: it only happen if you damage your IPL, but as far as i understand, the IPL is never changed when you falsh ROM: at maximum you change the SPL...????
About ROMs:
I have:
official HTC 3.14.406.2 (04666) FRE
This ROM contain
System version 5.2.21913 (21913.5.0.94)
Manila 2.5.20181527.0
Radio drivers 2.15.50.14
Protocol version 15.42.50.11U
Here i don't understand well what is contained in the ROM and what could be changed separaltly, i mean i read about RADIO ROM... it means that i can flash a radio ROM separatly of the HTC official ROM?
I didn't undestand exactly also what are the different function of these:
System version: it's the operating system part of the ROM: WINDOW6.5???
Manila: It's the MMI developed by HTC, the "SENSE"???
Radio it's the drivers dor the radio chipset in my phone??
Protocol version i don't have a clue of what is it??
And is it for example the same radio wich are used for android and window?
Thanks again for your help.
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I am still learning about all of this myself and someone else here may be able to give you a more in depth answer. But I will share what I do know with you.
To find if you have a T-Mobile T8585 just look at your HD2. If it has T-Mobile at the top of the front of the phone and it has a green send button and a red end button then it is a T8585. If it does not have this it is a International/Eroupean model. I am not 100% sure about this but you can either go to Settings>About Phone>Hardware information to get the model number or look under your battery. As I said I am not 100 % sure about that as I am on my HD2 right now and can not pull the battery and I am runningvAndroid and not Windows Mobile
As for your limitations question the T8585 better known as the TMOUS has more ROM and RAM than the regular HD2s. Therefore it has a little different internals then regular HD2s. The ROMs made for the TMOUS are made to to take advantage of it's extra ROM and RAM. Just as the SPL 2.08.0000 and SPL 3.03.0000 were made to work with it also. (It is also a SPL 3.10.0000 out for the TMOUS now) Being that the HSPL versions are made from the SPL versions then this is why you only want to flash HSPL 2.08 or HSPL 3.03 to the TMOUS. If you don't you may uncounted problems as these vesionscare made to work with the ROMs for the TMOUS. Now this does not mean that the ROMs for the TMOUS can not be flashed to a regular HD2 it just means you do not want to flash a ROM for the international HD2s to the TMOUS. For one they are not made for it's ROM and RAM, two they have radio versions that contain 51's in them and they will brick a TMOUS. Once you have flashed HSPL to your TMOUS you can flash any custom ROM that is based of of a stock TMOUS ROM but Nome other because like I said if it was not meant for the TMOUS itcwill not operate correctly on the TMOUS
The only compatibility board is the maim board/mother board of the HD2. But I think you can not put a TMOUS main board in a international HD2, bit I do think you can put a international main board in a TMOUS. My question is though why would you want to? Lol
You are correct when you brick a HD2 you have screwed up the IPL hence a brick HD2 will not even turn on. I am not exactly sure why flashing the wrong radio will brick a TMOUS but it THECIPL and the radio must have some kind of direst corolation to each other. Yes when you flash a ROM that has a different SPL version included in the image than it chang the SPL. Unless you have HSPL, but this only hold true when you flash via RUU not via SD card. When you flash via SD card the Bootloader is what actually does the flash and it is only programed to flash the intiror image not just the ROM and Radio if HSPL is present.
A full ROM image contains a SPL version, a splash screen, a radio version, and a ROM version. You can flash any of of these seperate from one another via RUU or SD card but it has to just be the item you want to flash in the .nbh file.
You are spot on with your understanding of whthe the system version, the mantilla version, and the radio version is. I am still not quit sure what the protocol version is myselfcso if you find out let me know.
Yes the same radios that you use in Windows Mobile are used for Android on THE HD2 as radio software is device spacific and can only be used on the device it was made for.

T8585 doesn't mean tmous, all regular hd2 are t8585. Telstra are t9193, and I'm not sure the tmous even HAS a Tcode...., im sure it must, and it could be t8585, but just letting you know.
Also, regular hd2 3.14 roms come with 3.03.0000, so spl 3.x is not tmous specific, and indeed if you flash a 3.14 rom onto a regular hd2 without having spl 3.x it will not work. (Well it will, but badly) But you already knew this from your guide!

samsamuel said:
T8585 doesn't mean tmous, all regular hd2 are t8585. Telstra are t9193, and I'm not sure the tmous even HAS a Tcode...., im sure it must, and it could be t8585, but just letting you know.
Also, regular hd2 3.14 roms come with 3.03.0000, so spl 3.x is not tmous specific, and indeed if you flash a 3.14 rom onto a regular hd2 without having spl 3.x it will not work. (Well it will, but badly) But you already knew this from your guide!
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Once again thanks for the info Sam. This is how a forum should work everyone contributing knowledge to help one another. And if someone says you are wrong learn from them and not get made and lash back at them for only trying to help you out. I want to say thanks to all the members that are regularly on here trying to help and inform people as you all have taught me so much sense I have been here and have all been more than gracious. I recently started venturing to other HD2 forums here on XDA and have been greatly offended by some members that are there. Thankscagain to onecand all.

you are most welcome, and im glad you dont take offence, cos none is intended. Knowledge is power, and all that, hehe.

T-Macgnolia said:
Once again thanks for the info Sam. This is how a forum should work everyone contributing knowledge to help one another. And if someone says you are wrong learn from them and not get made and lash back at them for only trying to help you out. I want to say thanks to all the members that are regularly on here trying to help and inform people as you all have taught me so much sense I have been here and have all been more than gracious. I recently started venturing to other HD2 forums here on XDA and have been greatly offended by some members that are there. Thankscagain to onecand all.
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Yup, he beat me to it. The TMOUS model does not have a number, just a name: "T-Mobile HD2". The 8585 is the international model.

Merci beaucoup!!
Thank you very much for all this informations, sorry for my late reply.
So i'll try to apply this on my Hd2 now, i will let you know.... Cause right now my phone work very badly and i'm not statisfied with that!

Hi guys

howdy all, im new to the forum havent really had a chance to have much of a browse yet.
have had my hd2 for a while now and tbh im no overly impressed with it, whether or not that's just me not being able to get to grips with it im unsure of, but it always seems to be glitching, takes a while to do anything locks up quite a lot many problems.
just wondering is there anyway of making the whole thing run more smoothly?
any help would be greatly appreciated, and bare with me as im so out of touch with phones nowadays.

Well I assume you are still using the stock Windows Mobile ROM. Do this go to Settings>About Phone>Software Information and tell us what ROM and radio you have right now as I bet you are not on the most recent ROM as the older Windows Mobile ROMs were unstable.

it says im running
rom version 1.43.110.2 (70315) wwe
radio version 2.04.50.22_2

essexgt425 said:
it says im running
rom version 1.43.110.2 (70315) wwe
radio version 2.04.50.22_2
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T-Macgnolia was right your HD2 is running stock from way back from launch day...
The latest radio is 2.15.50 while the latest stock rom is somewhere in the 3.0 range
If you want to stick with stock try flashing the latest T-mobile / HTC update... make sure you backup anything and everything because you never know what might happen.

Yeah you are running a much older ROM. I can also tell from that ROM version you are using a EU HD2. Go to HTC.com and looks for ROM upgrades and then enter your serial number that is behind the battery and see what the latest ROM version for your HD2. If it says you can use a 3.14 ROM download it and flash it to your HD2. They should have some instructions on the HTC site telling you how to do this. It is simple really come post back here if you have questions. Also you can flash a custom ROM from here on on XDA, you can run Android from your SD card if you want while still having Windows Mobile on your HD2, you can flash Android to your HD2 doing away with Windows Mobile (I run Android right now), and you can flash Windows Phone 7 to your HD2 of you want. But try out a better stock ROM first as it will give you some experience flashing a ROM. Take a look a my guide in my signature as it will teach you some about what I just mentioned, and AI have links to guides on how to install Android or Windows Phone 7.

[Date] December 31 [Q] Getting past spl version .87 to install hspl?

Hi, I spent all of yesterday working on this and searching for the answer and I grasp the process of how to do a NAND installation of Android onto my phone.
The problem is I can't find an RUU that will allow me an upgrade from my current SPL version of .87 to one which is supported by HSPL*.
Also, HTC's website is giving me Server Unavailable's whenever I try accessing it for the official ROMs.
I understand that I need an official ROM upgrade which will give me a valid SPL so that I can in turn put in HSPL. Does anyone have such a ROM? Is there any other way? All help is appreciated, thank you.
Some specifics:
Phone: HTC Touch Pro 2 (Rhodium 210), TMOUS
Current SPL: 0.87
Current O.S: WinMo 6.5
Current ROM Version: 1.91.531.4 (WWE)

Wrong forum, this is touch hd2, you have a touch pro 2

HTC HD2 T-Mobile Help Needed!

Dear Developers, I am a noob and want to install Android on my device, have done a lot of research on this topic but can't find any suitable ROM.
I am having HD2 with the following Configuration:-
ROM Version- 1.43.110.2 (70315) WWE
ROM Date- 10/28/09
Radio Version- 2.04.50.22_2
Protocol Version- 15.26.50.07U
Manilla Version- 2.5.19202525.0
OS Version- 5.2.21864 (21864.5.0.81)
Can anybody tell me how can I port Android 4.0(In SD CARD) with HTC Sense into it. Which ROM will be suited and how can i put that ROM. Or is there any method like- getting Original HD2 ROM and then after that all ROMs support the device?
Every time I search on internet I get confused and sometimes scared about DEAD HD2s. I really love my phone, the only problem is that it doesn't support .NET3.5 Framework and because of that there are very less apps available. Once I get android, my phone will shine like a diamond.
I am really not that concerned of HTC Sense what I want is Android 4.0 or 2.3 with all functions properly working.
Regards,
Arun Wadhwa

themegastar1 said:
Dear Developers, I am a noob and want to install Android on my device, have done a lot of research on this topic but can't find any suitable ROM.
I am having HD2 with the following Configuration:-
ROM Version- 1.43.110.2 (70315) WWE
ROM Date- 10/28/09
Radio Version- 2.04.50.22_2
Protocol Version- 15.26.50.07U
Manilla Version- 2.5.19202525.0
OS Version- 5.2.21864 (21864.5.0.81)
Can anybody tell me how can I port Android 4.0(In SD CARD) with HTC Sense into it. Which ROM will be suited and how can i put that ROM. Or is there any method like- getting Original HD2 ROM and then after that all ROMs support the device?
Every time I search on internet I get confused and sometimes scared about DEAD HD2s. I really love my phone, the only problem is that it doesn't support .NET3.5 Framework and because of that there are very less apps available. Once I get android, my phone will shine like a diamond.
I am really not that concerned of HTC Sense what I want is Android 4.0 or 2.3 with all functions properly working.
Regards,
Arun Wadhwa
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If you want to install SD Android there is no chance of bricking your phone. Just download the ROM from the thread (check the SD Development section) place the 'Android' folder on the root of your SD card then run CLRCAD and HARET. As for choosing a ROM, there is no Sense 4 ROM, but aside from that there's basically anything else you could possibly want. People can't tell you the 'best' ROM because different people like different things. Try some out, and decide for yourself.
In future please search properly, everything there ^ could be found with a forum search.

But Still?
You are saying right, but how will I find the right version? I am having a TMOBILE 1.43.110.2 (70315) WWE ROM.
Nigeldg said:
If you want to install SD Android there is no chance of bricking your phone. Just download the ROM from the thread (check the SD Development section) place the 'Android' folder on the root of your SD card then run CLRCAD and HARET. As for choosing a ROM, there is no Sense 4 ROM, but aside from that there's basically anything else you could possibly want. People can't tell you the 'best' ROM because different people like different things. Try some out, and decide for yourself.
In future please search properly, everything there ^ could be found with a forum search.
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themegastar1 said:
You are saying right, but how will I find the right version? I am having a TMOBILE 1.43.110.2 (70315) WWE ROM.
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What do you mean by 'right version'? WinMo doesn't affect SD Android, the right version is the one you like best. As long as you have a .50 radio (which you do) you're fine.

@Nigel, 2.04.50 radio doesn't count as a 50 radio, (at least as far as unlocking ram and not bricking tmouses) 2.05.50 and below (and perhaps 2.06.50, I forget without checking) are not tmous compatible.
@op, don't confuse your t mobile issued REGULAR hd2 with all the talk about the tmous, or t mobile USA hd2. You have a regular hd2. (Proven by the rom version)

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@Nigel, 2.04.50 radio doesn't count as a 50 radio, (at least as far as unlocking ram and not bricking tmouses) 2.05.50 and below (and perhaps 2.06.50, I forget without checking) are not tmous compatible.
@op, don't confuse your t mobile issued REGULAR hd2 with all the talk about the tmous, or t mobile USA hd2. You have a regular hd2. (Proven by the rom version)
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I thought something was fishy with the ROM version, thanks for clearing that up. Either way, @OP just update your ROM to the latest version or flash a newer radio then do as above for Android.

I replied in your other post....you need latest rom with radio 2.15..(radio above 2.08 is compulsory for Android) ....install hspl4..and then put SD build on card and enjoy...I recommend trying the new native SD way...fastest rom just like nand install
Please go through stickies in the Android forum or search in xda not Google
Samsamuel has enough experience in this forums with guiding and preventing people from bricking their tmous hd2 with flashing. 51 radios...so if he says it's not tmous...it is not...happy flashing
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF300T using Tapatalk 2

Radio?
You mean if I update my ROM my radio will be automatically updated? If yes, then i only have to put an android rom in sd card and then install it? I hope there is no risk of bricking my phone. Is the latest ROM (WM) available on HTC website(INDIA) suitable for this? Please reply guys! If its really that simple, my phone will shine like a diamond. Please answer while keeping my ROM in mind! Your help will be appreciated.
If it's to be done manually(Radio), then how to do it and what are the risks?

correct, stock roms include spl and radio.
get hspl4
use it to set 3.03.hspl (NOT 3.03.0000, thats stock)
run the 3.14 rom you wanna flash over usb
radio will now be 2.15.50 and rom will be 3.14
go ahead and put sd android on sd

spl?
Okay, so let's make it clear. First, I've to download a ROM from htc India's website, then I've to install it by connecting it through USB, after that I've to download any one ROM from xda developers' website(of android). Then what? What was that 'spl' thing you were saying? How to change that spl, etc... Can you please elaborate. Your help would be appreciated.

no
1/ bootloader
2/ hspl4.exe --> 3.03.hspl (this is a hacked spl, , spl = secondary program loader, , ,it starts the phone, teh hacked one allows the wrong rom to be flashed without failing, , you do NOT currently have hspl because you chose 3.03.0000 which is the factory spl)
3/ bootloader
4/ install the indian rom over usb
done.

themegastar1 said:
Okay, so let's make it clear. First, I've to download a ROM from htc India's website, then I've to install it by connecting it through USB, after that I've to download any one ROM from xda developers' website(of android). Then what? What was that 'spl' thing you were saying? How to change that spl, etc... Can you please elaborate. Your help would be appreciated.
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Why elaborate when everything's already there for you? There's a forum search tool at the top of your page, as I stated earlier - USE IT.

What?
I am currently having SPL- 1.42.0000, I've already listed my ROM and radio. So first I need to get a new rom from HTC with SPL 3.03.0000 and a better radio. Then I've to install HSPL 3.03 via HSPL4, after that I've to put Android ROM in SD CARD formatted in FAT32, then run the CTRLPD(or whatever) and haret.exe, then I am done! Aren't I right?

themegastar1 said:
So first I need to get a new rom from HTC with SPL 3.03.0000 and a better radio.
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no
put the androidrom.zip you wanna flash on the sd card
then
bootloader
run hspl4
choose 2.08.hspl
bootloader
flash radio 2.15.50 (see the 'various radios roms and tools' link in my sig)
bootloader
flash magldr
magldr menu - usb flasher
nand toolkit - select target partition size on left, click repartition bottom left
magldr menu - 8 - ad recovery
cwm starts
choose 'instal zip from sd - choose zip - and point it to teh zip file you wanna instal
thats it
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your arse is the one with the crack, your elbow is the bendy one
eggs are sucked by making a small hole in each end and sucking
breathe in, , and now out, , and in again, and out
</sarcasm>

Thank You!
I read your comments and researched on many websites and found one with easy guides- Addictivetips or something like that. Now I know the whole procedure. Thanks to you and that website. One last thing, do u think their are any chances of getting hd2 bricked with the rom i mentioned, just last question. Is it safe?

No you don't have a tmous, only tmous risks brick from wrong radio.