I have a plan to possibly use my hd2 as a covert camera recording video onto an external hard drive, does anyone know if this would work? Theoretically it seems straight forward but on connecting my USB hard drive with a micro to usb otg cable the hard drive doesn't start up like it does when connected to my nexus. Is this simply because I need some software/ app that makes it recognise it or does the hardware simply not support this?
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chrisman99 said:
I have a plan to possibly use my hd2 as a covert camera recording video onto an external hard drive, does anyone know if this would work? Theoretically it seems straight forward but on connecting my USB hard drive with a micro to usb otg cable the hard drive doesn't start up like it does when connected to my nexus. Is this simply because I need some software/ app that makes it recognise it or does the hardware simply not support this?
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Would depend on OS running on phone and filesystem of hard drive.
With android it should be fine if you use rick's usb host kernel and the hard drive is powered externally, with the only issue being that the phone won't charge until you change to another kernel (or rom).
There is probably also a way for the video footage to be saved to the hard drive while being attached to a laptop using a file share or something similar.
At the moment I think its just on stock windows 6.5. So is this not compatible? What would be best to use, I've never really had a lot of luck with android rooms on it stability wise. Would I also be able to charge the phone from the USB cable as it would eventually just run down.
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I'm no technician or anything, but wouldn't the hard drive need external power? OTG power from HD2? I don't think that would be enough for a hard drive.
You can try a powered USB hub. Or, what about a 64GB sd card?
Yeah the hard drive has got a power cable that I intended to use. You need to. Was trying make this work from what I already had, not to buy another SD card
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Marvlesz said:
I'm no technician or anything, but wouldn't the hard drive need external power? OTG power from HD2? I don't think that would be enough for a hard drive.
You can try a powered USB hub. Or, what about a 64GB sd card?
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Hello guys,
I remember a thread by Cotulla who worked on this for WM 6.5:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1224652
Also the charging problem is solved but one has to do a bit of handicraft work.
Best regards
Getrid …
HypoTurtle said:
Would depend on OS running on phone and filesystem of hard drive.
With android it should be fine if you use rick's usb host kernel and the hard drive is powered externally, with the only issue being that the phone won't charge until you change to another kernel (or rom).
There is probably also a way for the video footage to be saved to the hard drive while being attached to a laptop using a file share or something similar.
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Hey,
So I ordered the Nexus 4 about a week ago but I just read that there is no USB support. However do you transfer files from your phone to your computer and how do you get new roms onto your phone? I typically download on my computer because its so much faster in terms of internet connection and then I plug my usb in and just drag the roms or files or whatever onto my phone.
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Hey,
So I ordered the Nexus 4 about a week ago but I just read that there is no USB support. However do you transfer files from your phone to your computer and how do you get new roms onto your phone? I typically download on my computer because its so much faster in terms of internet connection and then I plug my usb in and just drag the roms or files or whatever onto my phone.
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Where on earth did you read that???
There is just no USB-OTG (on the go) support, AKA support for USB keyboards/mice/thumbdrives
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Hey,
So I ordered the Nexus 4 about a week ago but I just read that there is no USB support. However do you transfer files from your phone to your computer and how do you get new roms onto your phone? I typically download on my computer because its so much faster in terms of internet connection and then I plug my usb in and just drag the roms or files or whatever onto my phone.
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There is USB support, just not as the host.
Thanks! Some people obviously have their information wrong. Yeah I had read about no on the go support but I read that there was no USB port either, someone was blogging and about and ranting about how annoying it was going to be to have to access files wirelessly on his computer instead of being able to plug it in. It's good to know he had his info wrong! lol
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Thanks! Some people obviously have their information wrong. Yeah I had read about no on the go support but I read that there was no USB port either, someone was blogging and about and ranting about how annoying it was going to be to have to access files wirelessly on his computer instead of being able to plug it in. It's good to know he had his info wrong! lol
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even without using usb you can always transfer the files over the LAN from your PC using ES file explorer or some such. :good:
honestly transferring files over WiFi isnt anymore inconvenient then always having to carry around your micro usb cable, run airdroid on the phone navigate on your pc browser, drag and drop files...
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honestly transferring files over WiFi isnt anymore inconvenient then always having to carry around your micro usb cable, run airdroid on the phone navigate on your pc browser, drag and drop files...
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it is less inconvenient than the other 2 options imo.
Or is that what you meant?
i think what you are concerned about is the usb mode in which the phone acts when plugged in via usb. it defaults to mtp mode rather than the old USB Mass Storage.
I had the same question as the OP. Did a little research, and with Windows you just plug your device in; on MacOS you need to install an app on your computer. It's not quite as convenient as having it appear as a connected device in MacOS Finder -- can't preview the images in place, for example -- but it's OK.
(I can't post outside links yet as a new user; google "stackexchange nexus 4 usb storage connect", it's the first result)
Hi
Can I play movies on PC from nexus 4 while it's connected with USB cable like it was a regular flash drive?
When I try doing it the file is being downloaded first then plays. If the file is big it takes a lot of time.
I'm using windows 8.
Better copy the film to your pc first. I got the same problem but dont think this is os related. Just a bad read speed, worse than actually usb 2.0.
The speed is onpair with usb 2.0, still copying the whole movie to some unknown place instead of direct play is unnecessary and waste of time.
My previous phone had an sdcard which appeared as hard drive when connected to PC, but N4 appears as portable device. This sucks
That's because the Nexus 4 doesn't support USB On The Go. Search xda for "Nexus 4 OTG" and you'll come across some threads about this, and a couple of workarounds that might, or might not work for you :fingers-crossed:.
Hey there
I wasn't looking for USB OTG, which is a way to connect external drives to the device. I'm looking for a way to use N4 itself as a regular external drive while connected to PC. Currently it's seen by PC as a portable device and it's pretty limited.
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Hey there
I wasn't looking for USB OTG, which is a way to connect external drives to the device. I'm looking for a way to use N4 itself as a regular external drive while connected to PC. Currently it's seen by PC as a portable device and it's pretty limited.
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I would assume increasing the SD read-ahead (if you're on a custom kernel) might help with your issue here. But as someone else previously mentioned, copying to PC is definitely the better option. That, or just enjoy the movie on your Nexus4
Hey guys,
I have a 16gb Nexus 10, a 128gb SanDisk USB flash drive, a micoUSB to female USB OTG converter, using StickMount. Running Task650's latest AOKP release.
I had placed two mkv bluray rips on the USB flash drive and with the converter and StickMount, I was able to play both movies using BSPlayer. No lags. No frame rate drops. It was a thing of beauty. Before I got it to work, I had to NTFS format the flash drive.
Anyways, today I added a few avi movies and a bunch of comic books, figured it was going to work the same. Now I'm not even able to play the movies that played. The USB flash folder shows empty when I'd browse to it using Root Explorer.
Superuser permission looks good. I've tried rebooting, clearing cache, combinations of folders and different file types.
I was wondering if anyone uses StickMount or does what I'm trying to do and can recommend a possible fix? Or a different method?
Thanks dudes!
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I used my OTG today with a NTFS flash drive to copy some files over (4+ GB) aaaannd it crashed the first time (used CM's file manager), hard reboot, reinserted the flash drive, used ES this time, worked flawlessly. No extra app for mounting here.
What about issuing the mount command yourself on the terminal?
look at kmsg (kernel output) right after you connect your device, it will give you the vold location of the device/partition and then issue the mount command to mount the ntfs partition to some folder you created before.
Also, the usb disk, it has its own power source, right? just checking.
Have you tried another filesystem i.e. ext4?
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I used my OTG today with a NTFS flash drive to copy some files over (4+ GB) aaaannd it crashed the first time (used CM's file manager), hard reboot, reinserted the flash drive, used ES this time, worked flawlessly. No extra app for mounting here.
What about issuing the mount command yourself on the terminal?
look at kmsg (kernel output) right after you connect your device, it will give you the vold location of the device/partition and then issue the mount command to mount the ntfs partition to some folder you created before.
Also, the usb disk, it has its own power source, right? just checking.
Have you tried another filesystem i.e. ext4?
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Hey! Thanks for the reply!
I just flashed the latest ParanoidAndroid (3.6) and going to run a few different tests today. Hopefully I'll see something different.
I don't understand the whole mount command thing. Admitted beyond my scope of Android expertise. Can you elaborate? Perhaps link me?
When I plug in my 128GB SanDisk Cruzer, which doesn't require a power source, StickMount will have something pop up and it will give me a location of where the flash drive populates. I can find the folder, but it'll always show empty.
I can from eFAT32 formatting to NTFS before it worked, only that once. Can you explain a bit more on another file system?
You might try USB ORG Helper app as an alternative. I've had occasion where files could be read in that when they couldn't in Stockmount. Don't ask me why.
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bruce7373 said:
You might try USB ORG Helper app as an alternative. I've had occasion where files could be read in that when they couldn't in Stockmount. Don't ask me why.
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Thanks for this dude! I'm going to try all this sh** out this weekend. Will report back for posterity.
And I'm assuming you know I meant "USB OTG Helper"...
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bruce7373 said:
And I'm assuming you know I meant "USB OTG Helper"...
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Haha! Yup buddy!
TheShamsMan said:
Hey guys,
I have a 16gb Nexus 10, a 128gb SanDisk USB flash drive, a micoUSB to female USB OTG converter, using StickMount. Running Task650's latest AOKP release.
I had placed two mkv bluray rips on the USB flash drive and with the converter and StickMount, I was able to play both movies using BSPlayer. No lags. No frame rate drops. It was a thing of beauty. Before I got it to work, I had to NTFS format the flash drive.
Anyways, today I added a few avi movies and a bunch of comic books, figured it was going to work the same. Now I'm not even able to play the movies that played. The USB flash folder shows empty when I'd browse to it using Root Explorer.
Superuser permission looks good. I've tried rebooting, clearing cache, combinations of folders and different file types.
I was wondering if anyone uses StickMount or does what I'm trying to do and can recommend a possible fix? Or a different method?
Thanks dudes!
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Hi! This is very strange to me. I've been using stickmount+otg+usb disk for a few months now on rooted Nexus 7 and form recently on XT925 aswell.
Never had any problem. My usb drives are Kingston DataTraveler 64GB Elite 3.0 NTFS and two cheap 4GB noname FAT32.
Tried now your scenario with comics and videos and still works fine.
I'm using Total Commander for browsing. Try it..
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You might try USB ORG Helper app as an alternative. I've had occasion where files could be read in that when they couldn't in Stockmount. Don't ask me why.
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Hey! Finally got around to testing everything out this weekend.
So..
The Nexus 10 running Task650's AOKP: StickMount only worked once and never again. OTG Helper didn't work at all.
The Nexus 10 running ParanoidAndroid: StickMount didn't work, but OTG Helper worked like a charm. And not just once. I was able to get it working consistently.
I wasn't able to have it mount without any of the above apps. Even with different file exploring apps.
So, at least for me, USB OTG Helper is the only thing that worked! The Pro version of the app is totally worth it too.
TheShamsMan said:
Hey! Finally got around to testing everything out this weekend.
So..
The Nexus 10 running Task650's AOKP: StickMount only worked once and never again. OTG Helper didn't work at all.
The Nexus 10 running ParanoidAndroid: StickMount didn't work, but OTG Helper worked like a charm. And not just once. I was able to get it working consistently.
I wasn't able to have it mount without any of the above apps. Even with different file exploring apps.
So, at least for me, USB OTG Helper is the only thing that worked! The Pro version of the app is totally worth it too.
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Great. I agree. The only problem I couldn't solve was trying to use a micro sd card. I bought a USB card reader, plugged it into the OTG cable. I couldn't get OTG Helper to even mount it; Stickmount did, but couldn't read the files. I tried NTFS, FAT, FAT32, even xFAT. Plugged the adapter into a USB port on my desktop and the files were available, no problem.
If you have one of these adapters, try to see if you can get it to work. Other people have, so I'm stumped.
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Great. I agree. The only problem I couldn't solve was trying to use a micro sd card. I bought a USB card reader, plugged it into the OTG cable. I couldn't get OTG Helper to even mount it; Stickmount did, but couldn't read the files. I tried NTFS, FAT, FAT32, even xFAT. Plugged the adapter into a USB port on my desktop and the files were available, no problem.
If you have one of these adapters, try to see if you can get it to work. Other people have, so I'm stumped.
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Hello! Buy this! It's awesome, works and it costs around $10...
http://76.my/Malaysia/[email protected]
I'll check it out, thanks. The one I bought had a regular USB connector (PC type, flat) that I plugged into the OTG cable. I didn't know they made readers with micro USB connectors. Good to know. :thumbup:
Did you buy it online?
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I'll check it out, thanks. The one I bought had a regular USB connector (PC type, flat) that I plugged into the OTG cable. I didn't know they made readers with micro USB connectors. Good to know. :thumbup:
Did you buy it online?
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Keep it cheap. Check it.
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=190807960619
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I'll check it out, thanks. The one I bought had a regular USB connector (PC type, flat) that I plugged into the OTG cable. I didn't know they made readers with micro USB connectors. Good to know. :thumbup:
Did you buy it online?
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Yes I got it online! I bought this one : http://www.ebay.com/itm/Left-angled...ro-USB-Host-OTG-HUB-CARD-READER-/151014270145
Just buy it! And don't worry. It's awesome and is $8 now!!! :good::good::good:
Read the description on linked page .. it says : ALSO CAN USE FOR ALL MICRO USB OTG DEVICE!!!
I tried some other SD/OTGHUB devices like this (my friends have some) but they only work ond a handful of devices.
I really recommend this!
Cheers:victory:
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Hey! Thanks for the reply!
I just flashed the latest ParanoidAndroid (3.6) and going to run a few different tests today. Hopefully I'll see something different.
I don't understand the whole mount command thing. Admitted beyond my scope of Android expertise. Can you elaborate? Perhaps link me?
When I plug in my 128GB SanDisk Cruzer, which doesn't require a power source, StickMount will have something pop up and it will give me a location of where the flash drive populates. I can find the folder, but it'll always show empty.
I can from eFAT32 formatting to NTFS before it worked, only that once. Can you explain a bit more on another file system?
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Hi, I have been experiencing a similar issue using stickmount and a 32 GB usb flash drive. I can mount smaller drives using stickmount, but the files on the 32Gb drive don't show up using a file explorer. I don't have this issue using OTG helper. I am running stock JB 4.2.2.
Max amount read?
What (if any) is the maximum amount of GB the Nexus 10 can read using the OTG cable?
Thanks!
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What (if any) is the maximum amount of GB the Nexus 10 can read using the OTG cable?
Thanks!
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I don't know about the max amounts, but I have a 128GB SanDisk flash drive and it works like a charm. I just ordered a 1TB WD portable external hard drive. First thing I'll be testing on that thing is OTG capabilities. Will report back fo sho!
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What (if any) is the maximum amount of GB the Nexus 10 can read using the OTG cable?
Thanks!
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I successfully could R/W to NTFS and ext2,3,4 formated 500GB self powered USB drive using an OTG cable and USB OTG Helper with stock rooted 4.2.2.
I think the limit is not OTG specific but file format, so you likely can use a self powered 3TB drive if you so wish.
So,
I recently purchased a 1TB WD My Passport, USB powered external hard drive. I was kind of hoping that I would be able to mount this just like my USB flash drive. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to. From what I hear, it isn't possible because not enough power gets to it from the Nexus. When I plug in the HHD, the light comes on and I can hear it spin on. USBHelper will recognize it and ask you to perform an action, but then it'll say nothing is mounted. Root Explorer will have an extra folder appear, but the contents will be completely empty.
I was wondering if anyone else has tested this on another ROM or configuration? Is it in fact true that not enough power gets to it? If that is true, would plugging the Nexus into a power source help with powering up the external hard drive? Or would the HHD require it's own direct power source?
I was thinking about getting a splitter of some kind to test this out.
Hello XDA!
I need to record a 9 Hour 1080p Timelapse with my XPERIA T. Now, storage problem. My XPERIA T has a SD limitation of 32GB.
Connecting a 80GB IDE hard drive via a IDE to USB convertor, and then connect that USB to my phone, via a USB OTG cable that supports charging the phone, and then record that movie directly to the HDD. Sounds crazy, doesnt it? But is is possible?
Cheers xD
Crazy ideas always win
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Seems to be very doable.. But you may want "symlink" your camera folder onto the hdd. And another thing, you should use beefier usb power supply not the one that you get when you bought the phone. Something around 10watt or so like galaxy tab charger
Possible limitation:
Usually the otg driver only support fat32 partition so you may run into the 4gb file size limitation if the camera took the video in one file
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urra901109 said:
Seems to be very doable.. But you may want "symlink" your camera folder onto the hdd. And another thing, you should use beefier usb power supply not the one that you get when you bought the phone. Something around 10watt or so like galaxy tab charger
Possible limitation:
Usually the otg driver only support fat32 partition so you may run into the 4gb file size limitation if the camera took the video in one file
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Hmm, i might go exoerimenty and experiment on this one. But how does it normaly record to the SD with the 4gb limitation? Is there any?
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Hmm, i might go exoerimenty and experiment on this one. But how does it normaly record to the SD with the 4gb limitation? Is there any?
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Fat32 system cannot store file bigger than 4gb, it wont be a problem if you are just taking thousands of picture and making it a video later on a pc. But if the phone record it straight as a video, you might face this problem.