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Radical suggestion - let's restart this forum?

HD has been around for many months now and the forum seems to be full of duplicate messages and requests.
How about we delete it all and start again?

Cheesy Dave said:
HD has been around for many months now and the forum seems to be full of duplicate messages and requests.
How about we delete it all and start again?
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Not really a practical way of doing this as the whole process would just repeat itself.
A few ways of doing this:
1. Leave it as it is
2. Have more categories so questions on specific topics are in specific folders i.e. all game threads in one folder, all threads on battery in other and so on.....but this would create dozens of folders, so again not practical.
3. Have a new setup so noobs aren't actually able to post questions unless they have already searched the forum.....but again, this also isn't practical
4. Have a section for noobs where all basic questions are asked and then another section for other members....but again, I'm not sure this would work either as a person may be posting their first thread but be an experienced user.
Personally, I would just leave it as it is, and possibly just delete a few threads which are useless to clear the waste

Baby and bathwater spring unbidden to mind!

sorry to say.....
when a new phone comes out.....this happens to all threads
when the diamond came out...we was in the same boat..
when the diamond2 come out....it will all happen again
you have to get used to it....thats what happens when n00bs get new toys

liamhere said:
when a new phone comes out.....this happens to all threads
when the diamond came out...we was in the same boat..
when the diamond2 come out....it will all happen again
you have to get used to it....thats what happens when n00bs get new toys
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Totally agree, thats why after all my suggestions I said it wouldn't work so just leave it as it is!!

while i agreee thre are lot of multiple threads i still beleive leaving them up is the besy way to help as user SHould search theyll get more options
ive just got this toy. but ive owned a godd few winmo phones before hand so im no noob but we alll have issues

Something that would help i think is better use of the wiki. Each cook having a page, each rom having its own page. each app having its own page. the discussion belongs in forum but ROMs should have their own page then theres 1 location for update info, details ect.

liamhere said:
when a new phone comes out.....this happens to all threads
when the diamond came out...we was in the same boat..
when the diamond2 come out....it will all happen again
you have to get used to it....thats what happens when n00bs get new toys
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Mabe start the cleaning process by banning all the "nOOb" bashers. That would cut down on a lot of the redundency around here.

If you cant beat them.... join them....

well...
If wiki was better organized... and have screenshots tutorials... and it should be a separate child forum for each phone

istoica said:
If wiki was better organized... and have screenshots tutorials... and it should be a separate child forum for each phone
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Or integrate an automatic search screen (maybe a popup to act as a temporary block) for:
a) anyone starting a new thread with
b) less than 40 or 50 posts history.
Then continue VIGILANTLY marking and reporting useless/repetitive threads.

Abram said:
maybe a popup to act as a temporary block for:
a) anyone starting a new thread with
b) less than 40 or 50 posts history.
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Quite like this idea of a pop up for noobs asking them to check if question has already been asked and telling them how to use the site including search option!

Fallen Spartan said:
Quite like this idea of a pop up for noobs asking them to check if question has already been asked and telling them how to use the site including search option!
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Should be easy to implement as well, I think. Mind you we'll still need to do the cleaning up.

Abram said:
Should be easy to implement as well, I think. Mind you we'll still need to do the cleaning up.
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All we need is a few MOD's to have a look at this thread and hopefully some ideas will get implemented.......obviously not all

I will vote for changing the forum first page. Giving that the number of devices is increasing, it is getting harder to find your phone through all of them. Maybe it is possible to categories it like saying depending on the model year/release date or specificationsod the device. That would be much more interesting than scrolling the whole page waiting to find a specific one.

Psyberd said:
Something that would help i think is better use of the wiki. Each cook having a page, each rom having its own page. each app having its own page. the discussion belongs in forum but ROMs should have their own page then theres 1 location for update info, details ect.
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ya.. ya... more option is good... may be almost the same problem but different solution...

Summarize
Major issue is looooong threads - which just go on and on. In the case of an answer to a particular problem - as soon as someone has a definitive answer the thread needs to be marked as Solved and the answer put in a reserved slot on the first page. It can me a nightmare going through a dozen solutions to fix a problem - and with people quoting bit's all the time there's probably 50% of the info duplicated.
Still
Best forum going

Toggs said:
Major issue is looooong threads - which just go on and on. In the case of an answer to a particular problem - as soon as someone has a definitive answer the thread needs to be marked as Solved and the answer put in a reserved slot on the first page. It can me a nightmare going through a dozen solutions to fix a problem - and with people quoting bit's all the time there's probably 50% of the info duplicated.
Still
Best forum going
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Good idea!
All threads should be done this way, i.e. once a solution to a query or bug is solved it should be posted at start of thread!!

istoica said:
If wiki was better organized... and have screenshots tutorials... and it should be a separate child forum for each phone
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Wiki can be easily edited so feel free to contribute to the community by starting to edit it and cover its flaws.

Fallen Spartan said:
Quite like this idea of a pop up for noobs asking them to check if question has already been asked and telling them how to use the site including search option!
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But the thing is Fallen, I've been trolling these forums for years, ever since I got my universal roughly 3/4 years ago. The majority of posts I have made really has been to help other people.
I am not a noob but have not made many posts, I am a competent programmer and can solve problems without having to post... Usually.
It would be really annoying if the few times I did need to post for help, or to share information, I would have to answer to a stupid popup asking me whether I have searched or not!
However, I do agree there is a severe lack in understanding the search facility on these forums, I think if a NOOB filter were to be placed it should go on join date.
P.S My join date was before Aug 07 I just forgot my email and password

spl need the link

can anyone give me the link to show me how to download the new spl thanks

tato22 said:
u guys here boyyy i did look i didnt see it maybe if u guys were any help then ill ask for it to be close but all ya do is cry i asked in a nice way and this is what i get
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Waaaaa. Sorry, do you need someone to wipe your butt as well? So if you "looked", how come I found it through a simple search and you didn't? What search terms did you use: "Help me interweb! Where is the SPL?!"???
Read the rules: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=479704
You want help? This is what I used as search terms: Haykuro SPL*
done.

tato22 said:
u guys here boyyy i did look i didnt see it maybe if u guys were any help then ill ask for it to be close but all ya do is cry i asked in a nice way and this is what i get
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yes .. you asked very nicely .. kudos .. you also defied the "gods" of xda when you ignored their warnings about starting new threads .. as a side note .. i think most people here respond very well to PMs for questions like these .. there are also .. hmm .. i count five (5) references to haykuro and his builds in just the first two (2) pages of threads .. any one of those threads would be filled with knowledgeable people in the world of haykuro would could answer a question like this posted in that thread .. no need to start a new thread .. thus the mention to move this thread to one of those already in use
so i'm trying to cause a fuss .. but the rules of the forum were placed there for a reason .. cluttering the front page with questions is not necessary

Thread closed.
WARNING TO ORIGINAL POSTER: Please search (by using the built in search, the google search, and browsing the forum) for your problem first. This is your first warning and the next time it will result in a one week ban.
Let this be the lesson to all others.

Android Problems Thread

Mods please close this If you think I am wrong.
Firstly there are a lot of guys here asking about the same problems with android which I dont think are being noticed because the messages are either deleted or thread closed so no one see's.
I am not the only one with these problems with android but here are the 2 main ones that keep popping up and mods keep knocking us back down telling us to post in the relevent thread yet these problems are not for a relevent thread.
1. With certain Android Roms users are experiencing when answering and making calls the phonecall will be disconnected due to a problem with the proximity sensor.
2. With the latest Zimage from Cotulla certain users are getting the SOD (screen of death) when the phone goes into standby mode. Cotulla has mentioned this problem is fixed yet we cant find this fix anywhere and he has released the GPS working fix yet no SOD fix?
Hope I dont come off too strong its just when we as in the members try and get our opinion across or ask for help, we are shot down instantly by Moderators who frankly I know more Info than them and they should not close threads on guessing what our problem is.
Thanks, and If anyone thinks I should be a part of the staff Team Just gimme a shout, and ill keep things in order!

waste of thread

Demon_man said:
waste of thread
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Oh waste of thread so you have the answers for us somewhere else then do you? Please share!
waits...

have you posted the disconnect problem in the respective rom. I personally have never had it.
secondly if you are getting the green screen of death with the 25th zimage you should revert back to the 23. That image is considered to be the most stable for those who have sharp panels which is what is causing the Gsod.
my two cents
From what I have seen, said mods are only closing threads that their questions have been answered in the sticky information. Its those questions that had made it fustrating for the mods the dev's and the general xda community. I literally see the same questions over and over and these have been answered.

bazgee said:
Mods please close this If you think I am wrong.
Firstly there are a lot of guys here asking about the same problems with android which I dont think are being noticed because the messages are either deleted or thread closed so no one see's.
I am not the only one with these problems with android but here are the 2 main ones that keep popping up and mods keep knocking us back down telling us to post in the relevent thread yet these problems are not for a relevent thread.
1. With certain Android Roms users are experiencing when answering and making calls the phonecall will be disconnected due to a problem with the proximity sensor.
2. With the latest Zimage from Cotulla certain users are getting the SOD (screen of death) when the phone goes into standby mode. Cotulla has mentioned this problem is fixed yet we cant find this fix anywhere and he has released the GPS working fix yet no SOD fix?
Hope I dont come off too strong its just when we as in the members try and get our opinion across or ask for help, we are shot down instantly by Moderators who frankly I know more Info than them and they should not close threads on guessing what our problem is.
Thanks, and If anyone thinks I should be a part of the staff Team Just gimme a shout, and ill keep things in order!
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bazgee said:
Oh waste of thread so you have the answers for us somewhere else then do you? Please share!
waits...
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Well not all Android Builds are there same so you are going to have different results, Darkstones proximity sensor for calls works perfect, GPS has been fixed and working except the releases are all home made so far not official, the latest zimage is random for some people, personally works perfect for me but on another hd2 i have available the same build the image doesn't work, so who knows,
and as far as creating threads for problems and questions and answers its a waste of time because they get ignore and dropped down the pages like the thread i made yesterday to help out but nobody uses it or adds any extra info for it, cause it is mainly new people come here for android and they cant be arsed to search for anything and think everything works perfect straight away
@bazgee my point is there is many threads open and closed because you new people just wont search anything

Dude, all these questions have been answered like a 1000 times... Use search! you'll find a solution / answer!
I'm a noob at this.... really, and i had my fair share of hick-ups.. I've researched and read a lot for two days before attempting to install.. This way i knew what my problem would or would not have... I have not asked any questions yet regarding Android errors, please read and research dude... You'll find it!
If not, send me a pvt message and i will search it for you! The mods dont like it if you open these kinds of threads.. Unless you absolutly sure your the only one with this problem..
No offense, just making a point..

Were is the text selection method of Desire in Froyo?
Friends help me if possible, In Desire Build V5 .... to select a portion of text, we have a selection method like iphone, that alowed to stretch and shrink, was better than iphone, because we can send it to google tradutor or even to twitter or email.
Now, in Froyo this method of selection dont work...we have one like WM....and is wast we just can copy!!
For exemple:
How did you select a portion of text to edit bold, italic or underline??
I give my centims to, who can, make the a phrase like mine up with Froyo Darkstone V1 in HD2
Is any option off? or is it a app, which?
if not, it's possible to port the method selection of Desire in Froyo.
thanks

MMAwarrior said:
Dude, all these questions have been answered like a 1000 times... Use search! you'll find a solution / answer!
I'm a noob at this.... really, and i had my fair share of hick-ups.. I've researched and read a lot for two days before attempting to install.. This way i knew what my problem would or would not have... I have not asked any questions yet regarding Android errors, please read and research dude... You'll find it!
If not, send me a pvt message and i will search it for you! The mods dont like it if you open these kinds of threads.. Unless you absolutly sure your the only one with this problem..
No offense, just making a point..
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Nuff said. I'm almost wondering if it isn't usefull to just put a -this subforum requires a x minimum posts- limit on the Android section. This is getting more anoying by the day..

maseo said:
Nuff said. I'm almost wondering if it isn't usefull to just put a -this subforum requires a x minimum posts- limit on the Android section. This is getting more anoying by the day..
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So Im guessing my second question still cannot be answered. Cotulla has said the SOD has been fixed yet where is this fix? GO ON search and then try and call me a noob.
I know for a fine fact there will be loads of users reading this right now agreeing with me and glad that I posted this.

Dude, i'm not calling you a noob, and i'm not dissin you in anyway,
The SOD, came with the latest Zimage from the 25th, dont use this one.. Get the ZImage from the 23rd NO SPEEDY!
If your problem still persists, i suggest you:
- Remove SD and SIM card
- Hard Reset
- Task 29 it
- Put a compatible radio on it, (See my signature for a example)
- Put a decent winrom on it, like Chuckys, Miri or Energy
- Hard reset it again
- Insert Sim and SD card
- Format SD CARD (uncheck quick format)
- Put an Android built on it, with Zimage Nospeedy from the 23rd
- perhaps a Android Loader...
Do this, might take you 30 min overall... and you'll be home free...
Now i've explained it again.. hope this helps and hope you'll research more in the future..
Alright bro, Good luck

maybe It hasnt been released. I know for sure the first few post says the 23rd is the most reliable version. I personally check his uploads daily. I havent seen it.

Zimage of the 25th was released untill everyone started to complain, then Cotulla removed the link...

To the OP.
I agree, some things need to be searched first, and your orig questions have been answered, I also to some extent agree with the you though, things get locked/deleted MUCH to soon.
In my case I searched for 2 days, found nothing, then posted a thread for thoughts and to help the devs of that Img/Kernal out with some info. I doubt they ever saw it because it was locked.
My issues are with the Camera (black screen only) and no Audio in phone calls. (yet i could get audio in EVERYTHING else)And yes, CLRCAD, etc, I know...
I was told to post in the relevent thread, but in my case, there wasn't one. So meh, it happens. I only thought I should have at least had a chance to respond but w/e.

May I have your attention please?

As you may have noticed, the HD2 forums have finally received their makeover.
At this time, we are frantically trying to reorganize all of the threads but we could use your help. If you see a thread that is out of place, please report it and in the field where it asks you why you reported it, type where you think the thread should be.
This will be an immense help to us, the xda staff, and will help you because the forums will be organized more quickly!
Thanks for your cooperation.
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sirphunkee said:
As you may have noticed, the HD2 forums have finally received their makeover.
At this time, we are frantically trying to reorganize all of the threads but we could use your help. If you see a thread that is out of place, please report it and in the field where it asks you why you reported it, type where you think the thread should be.
This will be an immense help to us, the xda staff, and will help you because the forums will be organized more quickly!
Thanks for your cooperation.
dharvey4651 + sirphunkee
HD2 Forum Moderators
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on xda-classic skin subforums are seen like forums. is this ok ?

Whoaa.... Didn't notice that. Probably something I should bring up to Svetius.
Although.. I think this is how the old forum style has always been - sub-forums are displayed so that you can get quick access to them without having to go through the main forum first.

dharvey4651 said:
Whoaa.... Didn't notice that. Probably something I should bring up to Svetius.
Although.. I think this is how the old forum style has always been - sub-forums are displayed so that you can get quick access to them without having to go through the main forum first.
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no , i use xda classic theme sience i regged here. subforum worked well till now.

@ sirphunkee
OUR DEAR HARD WORKER :-X
i think it is better to make a sticky post (guide) for new sections that do not have ....just a suggestion

Thanx for the good work mates

htc hd2 help...

i have an htc hd2 and i would like someone to install android on it. who will do it???

yarchlrl said:
i have an htc hd2 and i would like someone to install android on it. who will do it???
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you will. after mods remove your thread or move it to general section. and ask you to search to do it yourself

ive tried it myself, 3 times but get error messages and i need to get it done for my son before school starts in two weeks. i will hit the THANKS button until my finger goes numb, haha, just need this phone working. message me your email and lets talk???

yarchlrl said:
ive tried it myself, 3 times but get error messages and i need to get it done for my son before school starts in two weeks. i will hit the THANKS button until my finger goes numb, haha, just need this phone working. message me your email and lets talk???
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Have you really searched the forum?
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/complete-guide-to-installing-nand-android-on-hd2/

nicedude_abad said:
Have you really searched the forum?
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/complete-guide-to-installing-nand-android-on-hd2/
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yes i did. i even googled the error codes and tried again.

yarchlrl said:
yes i did. i even googled the error codes and tried again.
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can you at least explain what problems you encounter and what have you done? from a to z?

re downloaded the rom, radio, hd2 kit and tried to do it all 3 times but i get the same error codes.

yarchlrl said:
re downloaded the rom, radio, hd2 kit and tried to do it all 3 times but i get the same error codes.
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And what is the error Code?

725 & 238.

start clean from flashing HSPL4 2.08hspl and formatting sdcard to fat32. then continue

Seriously I am TIRED of seeing posts like these in the DEVELOPMENT SECTION of the HD2. If this was the Q and A section I'd still help you. But I feel inclined to post useless stuff on this thread as you have not bothered to read ANYTHING before coming here.
I know everyone starts new, but so did I and I certainly did not post in the DEV section first.
So please, get a mod to move this thread and then I may help you

yarchlrl said:
i have an htc hd2 and i would like someone to install android on it. who will do it???
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you should help to keep the forum clean first because you posted in wrong forum... then someone will help you. post it in qa section, thanks

Nitro_123 said:
Seriously I am TIRED of seeing posts like these in the DEVELOPMENT SECTION of the HD2. If this was the Q and A section I'd still help you. But I feel inclined to post useless stuff on this thread as you have not bothered to read ANYTHING before coming here.
I know everyone starts new, but so did I and I certainly did not post in the DEV section first.
So please, get a mod to move this thread and then I may help you
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first off, this post was addressed to developers because ive been told that it has a unique issue with this phone, not model of phone. second, if your not a developer, then its not addressed to you. scroll past it. third,calm down. its just a post. not, the MAGNA CARTA. im not trying to reform or change the way this forum works, im simply doing what i was told to and trying to find a developer that MIGHT need to write a different code for this phone. thats why i posted it here.

yarchlrl said:
first off, this post was addressed to developers because ive been told that it has a unique issue with this phone, not model of phone. second, if your not a developer, then its not addressed to you. scroll past it. third,calm down. its just a post. not, the MAGNA CARTA. im not trying to reform or change the way this forum works, im simply doing what i was told to and trying to find a developer that MIGHT need to write a different code for this phone. thats why i posted it here.
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Development - where people post their work and things they have made.
Q&A - where people ask questions and have them answered.
There really is no justification of posting this in the development section, so please don't argue about that. You made a mistake, just admit you were wrong. As for your issue you really need to give us more detail. Also, if you think developers are going to take their time to specifically help you as an individual when the chances are you're the one who's made some mistakes then you're sorely mistaken.
Now, as for your issue, you haven't given enough detail. What were the exact steps that you followed? Did the things recommended earlier help?