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SuperCurio from galaxy s fame developing his sound kernel / app for TF

Just noted a tweet and screen shot from this galaxy s legend who turned a mobile phone device into a hifi quality audio device due to its wolfson chipset. it has to be heard to be believed.
If he ports this accross to the tf (does it have the same chip) then omg we are in for a treat
http://twitter.com/#!/search?q=#EeePadTransformer
http://yfrog.com/ehg9lp
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thering1975 said:
Just noted a tweet and screen shot from this galaxy s legend who turned a mobile phone device into a hifi quality audio device due to its wolfson chipset. it has to be heard to be believed.
If he ports this accross to the tf (does it have the same chip) then omg we are in for a treat
http://twitter.com/#!/search?q=#EeePadTransformer
http://yfrog.com/ehg9lp
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Nice one. Pic wouldn't load for me but I found it from his Twitter feed:
http://twitter.com/#!/supercurio

Yeah hope he gets it fully working, he done wonders for the galaxy s and as the chipset is high end and samsung had crippled it it was amazing to hear with a good set of headphones, truly different class.
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..omg - this is absolutely phenomenal news

Any news on this?

See the Twitter link I posted above. And especially this post:
http://twitter.com/#!/supercurio/status/79207238069268480

Thanks- this is awesome. I was looking into fixing the speaker balance issue, but I would much rather use something like voodoosound to take care of it.

Can someone explain what this does? Is it for the loud speakers or for plugging in earbuds?

ericc191 said:
Can someone explain what this does? Is it for the loud speakers or for plugging in earbuds?
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Both. Voodoo sound basically unlocks the potential of the soundchip in the TF. Granted, the built-in speakers are pretty crappy so you won't notice too much of a difference. But if you have a pair of high-end headphones the difference is amazing.
I have a Samsung Vibrant with Voodoo sound, and the difference is unbelievable. Samsung really tried to cage a beast with this phone... looks like Asus is doing the same. Why?

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Both. Voodoo sound basically unlocks the potential of the soundchip in the TF. Granted, the built-in speakers are pretty crappy so you won't notice too much of a difference. But if you have a pair of high-end headphones the difference is amazing.
I have a Samsung Vibrant with Voodoo sound, and the difference is unbelievable. Samsung really tried to cage a beast with this phone... looks like Asus is doing the same. Why?
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I consider myself to be an audiophile. And now I may just pick up a used vibrant to test this out.

DAC?

Does anyone have any idea what the DAC in the Nexus 4 will be? I'm really hoping for a Wolfson, but I doubt that will be what it is due to the price point. I'm really hoping for good sound quality on this phone as none of my previous Android devices have had it.

jtc276 said:
Does anyone have any idea what the DAC in the Nexus 4 will be? I'm really hoping for a Wolfson, but I doubt that will be what it is due to the price point. I'm really hoping for good sound quality on this phone as none of my previous Android devices have had it.
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Qualcomm socs use their own dac (made by qualcomm), but most have said it sounds pretty good.
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xboxfanj said:
Qualcomm socs use their own dac (made by qualcomm), but most have said it sounds pretty good.
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I have heard that the qualcomm dac is pretty decent as well
I am coming from a crap Yamaha dac on the S2 so I don't care as long as its not as terrible.

killman2659 said:
I have heard that the qualcomm dac is pretty decent as well
I am coming from a crap Yamaha dac on the S2 so I don't care as long as its not as terrible.
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Hopefully it's upgraded from the DAC used in the original S4 in my AT&T HTC One X. Though it's far from horrible, it's still nothing to brag about.

Sound quality discussions here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1962872

[Q] NexusLouder Testers.

If anything I've been working on purely all nexus devices to improve the way users listen to their device and music.
I just wanted to know if anyone can be kind enough to let me know how the N10 fares in general with it's audio quality and what audio chipset does it run.
Ofcourse I've created a test dump for the N10 but I don't know anyone on my side who has an N10. I would like someone to test it since this is the best place to refer to. Rest assured, bootloop free.
Much regards,
Misledz

http://www.samsung.com/global/busin...Exynos_5_Dual_User_Manaul_Public_REV100-0.pdf
Does this help?

In my opinion, it's pretty mediocre. It definitely didn't sound louder to me than the iPad, despite having Stereo out. Disappointing, really.
I can barely hear some movies on the DICE player and I don't know what's causing it. Some other movies are fine.

Valynor said:
http://www.samsung.com/global/busin...Exynos_5_Dual_User_Manaul_Public_REV100-0.pdf
Does this help?
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Hmm it does actually, as usual the audio chipset being the one they cut down to make it cheaper.
goodburner said:
In my opinion, it's pretty mediocre. It definitely didn't sound louder to me than the iPad, despite having Stereo out. Disappointing, really.
I can barely hear some movies on the DICE player and I don't know what's causing it. Some other movies are fine.
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Yeah it seems majority of the Nexus devices suffer this. Infact all at this rate, considering the Nexus S was to involved without Voodoo. :crying:

I think with these newer devicesthe only way to get respectable sound is with Bluetooth or wired external speakers.
I love my ICS phone and listened to the Nexus 7 - great devices. But audio is weak.
What bothers me about the Nexus 10 audio is the speakers.
Even as a kid nothing screamed snake oil to me more than huge grills that hid tiny speaker cones.
That's what you get with Nexus 10 as well.
Behind each grill is one tiny speaker radiator at the top of the grill.
The rest of the long speaker grill is just for looks (or sales)
External speakers all the way

sound
I think it sounds fine. The speakers on it are actually descent and I have nice headphones so that works fine for me as well.

I've got a test build up for trials. Anyone want to test it before I make the thread in N10 Themes SECTION? Thanks for the feedback, helps improve certain fields.
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I personally think the Nexus 10 sounds pretty good with headphones. I believe it has a Wolfson WM1811 chip.
I have it plugged in with an ATH-m50 and a Fiio E5. Tweaked with the 10-band equalizer from Poweramp, and it sounded pretty good. It's certainly not the best I've listened to (the Cowon S9 sounds better still), but it's good enough to replace my S9 simply because the Nexus is much more hassle free in general.
The sound is definitely missing something though. Not exactly sure what it is.

Misledz said:
I've got a test build up for trials. Anyone want to test it before I make the thread in N10 Themes SECTION? Thanks for the feedback, helps improve certain fields.
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I might suggest you guys follow Misledz! I use his mod on both a GNex & N7. Fantastic. I consider it a must have. Makes anything a pure joy to listen to.
I'll be glad to test. I'm unboxing & rooting today
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djd338 said:
I might suggest you guys follow Misledz! I use his mod on both a GNex & N7. Fantastic. I consider it a must have. Makes anything a pure joy to listen to.
I'll be glad to test. I'm unboxing & rooting today! I assure you its safe
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You got an N10? And I have a build. I'll send the test build later in your inbox
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To me the speakers on it are the best I've heard from any tablet since its front facing and it kinda has a slight surround sound effect since there is one speaker on each side of the tablet. Also the volume is loud enough to where nobody should have a problem hearing it and if you do get a hearing aid. The volume isn't so loud you can go deaf but its loud enough to where everyone in the room should be able to hear it.

The speakers sound pretty good with a bit of EQ. CyanogenMod's DSPManager is perfect for this since you can selectively EQ only the speakers.
Headphone quality is even better. Much, much better than the Galaxy Nexus and on par with some of the best Android devices.

Well I've sent a test build to a few members already let's see how that fares with comparison to stock loudness.
But I do thank you for the feedbacks, much appreciated!
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I'm no audiophile, but the Nexus 10 sounds pretty amazing, compared to the other devices and equipment I've used previously anyway.
I like natural-sounding audio without any DSP enhancements like Bass Boost and whatnot

espionage724 said:
I'm no audiophile, but the Nexus 10 sounds pretty amazing, compared to the other devices and equipment I've used previously anyway.
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Well it's got quite the chipset. But I'm sure they sacrificed something, Nexus devices usually sacrifice one thing. Audio, or hardware or something.
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Misledz said:
Well it's got quite the chipset. But I'm sure they sacrificed something, Nexus devices usually sacrifice one thing. Audio, or hardware or something.
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Maybe the screen? While the resolution is there, the screen itself isn't top-tier beautiful.

Misledz said:
Well it's got quite the chipset. But I'm sure they sacrificed something, Nexus devices usually sacrifice one thing. Audio, or hardware or something.
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I've read here somewhere that the microphone isn't amazing quality.

I wouldn't be surprised if the N10 sound can be improved, but I was actually very pleasantly surprised listening to music, movies, etc on mine, as the sound blows away any other tablet I've used to date, blows away my 15" ASUS laptop (3 different models in our house, none of which sound as good as the stock N10). I've seen a few people complain that the size of the speaker slots is misleading, and somehow implies that the speakers are larger than they really are, as can be seen in tear-down photos. I haven't done any serious homework into this -- but I'm wondering if the elongated speaker grills actually server as vents, effectively turning the housing into a slot-vented speaker cabinet.

How do you plan (in detail) to improve the sound on this tablet? Are you going to just make it louder or actually do tweaks to improve the sound? If you are just making things lower, how do you plan on making it louder? A simple voltage increase? Or something more sophisticated?

EniGmA1987 said:
How do you plan (in detail) to improve the sound on this tablet? Are you going to just make it louder or actually do tweaks to improve the sound? If you are just making things lower, how do you plan on making it louder? A simple voltage increase? Or something more sophisticated?
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Tweaks to improve the sound, since as you said the hardware is pretty good, louder is one thing if its needed, else controlled loudness is fine. In terms of libset, voltage increase is pushing it sounds alot more dangerous and doubt it will be tested :victory:

HTC one vs note 2 speakers

Does anybody have any first hand experience with both these phones to make a comparison?
I'm just trying to get a idea of how much better the loud speakers are compared to my note 2.
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I think if you go to youtube, there are a fair number of videos.. I think I saw a comparison with the note 2. The One may not be too much louder, but the sound is much more clear and you don't have static.

Yeah. I had found one that used the ipad as a dbm reader. But I thought it was a pretty crappy test.
I was hoping for some better input.
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I saw that too, that was a dumb test. There's another one where they use a professional mic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Kiw4tcUmX2A#t=361s

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Kiw4tcUmX2A#t=361s
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Thanks. Unfortunately I don't know what he's saying. Can you sum up the part about the speakers for me?
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busab said:
Thanks. Unfortunately I don't know what he's saying. Can you sum up the part about the speakers for me?
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idk either lol

Hi, I sold my Note 2 for a HTC One. I always thought the speaker on the Note was very impressive.
BUT the HTC is WOW. Much louder and the sound quality is superb. Sounds to have a little bit of base too.
This is how all phones should be built.

johnboywilson said:
Hi, I sold my Note 2 for a HTC One. I always thought the speaker on the Note was very impressive.
BUT the HTC is WOW. Much louder and the sound quality is superb. Sounds to have a little bit of base too.
This is how all phones should be built.
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Thanks for the reply! Any regrets coming from the note 2? What are your thoughts on battery life?
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I had the Note II LTE and this device is so much better in every way.
Speakers, better, clearer, just wow.
Everything else, better, clearer, just wow.
You won't regret the move

busab said:
Thanks for the reply! Any regrets coming from the note 2? What are your thoughts on battery life?
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No I needed a change from Samsung. I do miss the large screen and all the Smart features. I've managed to find some apps that sort that issue out though
So far I am happy with the battery life. It did a full day yesterday. I`m still unlocking the screen every 5 minutes though just to look at it
If the battery life becomes an issue I`ll install Juice Defender.
Yesterday I had 81% left by 1pm and I had it off charge at 7am.
Hope that helps.

I came from the Samsung Note II as well. With the Note II rooted and on custom rom. I say the performance of sound on the Note II was louder and probably slightly better than the HTC One. I was on Perseus kernel with Noozide on the Note II. I felt the bass pumping on the Note II, whereas the One did not. Also I feel the HTC one just isn't loud with the two speakers.
I haven't found any tweaks to get the volume louder on the HTC one yet... Hopefully someone can pull off a hack to get higher db.

twe90kid said:
I came from the Samsung Note II as well. With the Note II rooted and on custom rom. I say the performance of sound on the Note II was louder and probably slightly better than the HTC One. I was on Perseus kernel with Noozide on the Note II. I felt the bass pumping on the Note II, whereas the One did not. Also I feel the HTC one just isn't loud with the two speakers.
I haven't found any tweaks to get the volume louder on the HTC one yet... Hopefully someone can pull off a hack to get higher db.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2243207&page=6
You'll have to look back a couple of pages.

erikikaz said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2243207&page=6
You'll have to look back a couple of pages.
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Didn't really see an improvement after puttin in the files. Maybe it's just me, or a placebo.

twe90kid said:
I came from the Samsung Note II as well. With the Note II rooted and on custom rom. I say the performance of sound on the Note II was louder and probably slightly better than the HTC One. I was on Perseus kernel with Noozide on the Note II. I felt the bass pumping on the Note II, whereas the One did not. Also I feel the HTC one just isn't loud with the two speakers.
I haven't found any tweaks to get the volume louder on the HTC one yet... Hopefully someone can pull off a hack to get higher db.
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did that kernel add to the speakers? When I had my note 2 the speakers were horribly tinny and quiet. Not as bad as the nexus 4's though.

johnboywilson said:
Hi, I sold my Note 2 for a HTC One. I always thought the speaker on the Note was very impressive.
BUT the HTC is WOW. Much louder and the sound quality is superb. Sounds to have a little bit of base too.
This is how all phones should be built.
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I respectfully disagree. The Note 2 rear speaker is damn loud, and I think from a decibel standpoint its about the same, quality though, the HTC wins out. My wife has a Note 2, I have a One and an S4 and I can honestly as after all the rave reviews of the HTC's "loud speaker" I was disappointed. It sounds wonderful yes, but its not "turn it down halfway because its so loud" like some of the professional reviewers say.

Im sure mine was loud when i first got it. Seems to me the new firmware reduced the volume.
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I had a Note 2 on Sprint and then On AT&T. I left my Note 2 to get the One and I'm thoroughly impressed. Honestly, even though my Note's were rooted with custom kernels, they just weren't as sharp in the sound department. They were loud, but had a very tinny sound at high volume. The front facing speakers on the One really do the commercials justice. They are far clearer, and sound better than ANY other phone I've had.
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I felt the bass pumping on the Note II, whereas the One did not.
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Coming from a Note 2 and working with co-workers with a Note 2 I find this very hard to believe. I also tried this kernel and almost didn't hear any difference...before the note speaker sounded very tinny and afterwards it sounded a little less tinny. According to Samsung the speaker was not broken and within production tolerance. The lousy (quality and volume) speaker was one of the reasons to switch to a One and I didn't regret it one minute..

had the note 2 previously. The note 2 does sound loud when its turned over on its face but mine was rarely on its face, still sounded pretty loud though.
The One sounds very loud and because the speakers are on the face its loud all the time, The quality is also far far far better than the note. It wont replace a portable speaker though, understandably there isn't much bass(more than the note though).

question about Beats By Dr. Dre - Beats Studio

will the Beats By Dr. Dre - Beats Studio work with the gs4?and if so do they sound good?just asking before i spend 300.00 dollars,thanks

Thats a roger on the compatibility.
Beats by dre uses the standard 3.5 mm jack for audio input.
As for the sound...my untrained ears can't hear a difference. They're solid in performance and quality certainly. People swear by them at my university though.

At the $300 price point there are certainly better options on the market. Just because it's popular doesn't mean it's great (case in point iPhone ). That being said it should work fine with your S4 if you decide to get them
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Before you spend $300 do yourself a favor and do some research on head-fi.org.
At least then you will be making an informed decision. Many less expensive options out there with as good or better sound, problem is most people won't know it because all they see is the "beats" logo and assume you bought the best.
Do you want great sounding headphones, or do you want people to THINK you bought good sounding headphones because of a name?
Beats and Bose two of the biggest rip-offs in music. The only one worse is Monster Cable.

acruxksa said:
Before you spend $300 do yourself a favor and do some research on head-fi.org.
At least then you will be making an informed decision. Many less expensive options out there with as good or better sound, problem is most people won't know it because all they see is the "beats" logo and assume you bought the best.
Do you want great sounding headphones, or do you want people to THINK you bought good sounding headphones because of a name?
Beats and Bose two of the biggest rip-offs in music. The only one worse is Monster Cable.
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Actually, Beats by Dre were manufactured by Monster up until 2012, so there ya go.

I'm really looking into the Logitech UE 6000's. Everything I read has been good so far. I currently have some Shure SE 215 in-ear monitors and looking to make the jump to a full size headset. The UE 6000's at only $180 are also a great value. If you have the extra money and want some Bluetooth love then look no further then the UE 9000's ($400) from what I've read. Logitech may not be known for their high quality audio but down that lead you astray.
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I use beats studios with my s4 and note 10.1 and the sound is pretty awesome. Not tooo overpowering if you don't want them to be but if you crank it up and pair is with a good equalizer like viper it sounds incredible. Granted I got the beats scratchlesa and like-new secondhand at a fraction of the price so it may sound just a bit better than a $300 pair would but I would recommend going to an electronics store with your s4 and testing out the floor models to see which suits your taste the best. :thumbup:
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Definitely check out Head-fi.org, probably will find a better pair of cans for around the same price or even less.
Don't fall for the fade that is Beats by Dre.
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Ur paying for the beats logos.. Beats studios ar not the best headphones there are.. Much better choices if u look around..
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Do a little research on Audiotechnica ATH-M50 headphones before buying overpriced Beats headphones.
They are better headphones (especially for bass-heavy music and sounds like video games, movies, etc) and cost 30-50% as much as Beats.

Yes they will work
Sound quality...LOL, beats sound like crap for their price. Those who think they sound good have never listened to a quality pair of headphones. They are for looks...and only looks, just like iPhones. There is a reason why beats are never in top ten headphone lists...at least in any top ten list from a respected audio site...
Like said earlier, AudioTechnica M50 are much much better...and cost much much less...and in my opinion still look good, and are pretty damn comfortable. I got mine for $120 (I think they are like $200 regular) on amazon...couldn't be happier...definitely sounds better than any pair of beats I've tried on.
Like others have said...do some more research, you don't want to be that guy walking down the street with a pair of beats thinking he's cool with "good" headphones while all the nearby audiophiles are laughing at your stupidity for wasting money on beats...
-just my opinion...as I do consider my self an audiophile
Look...beats are not in any of these!!! My ATHM50 are in quite a few tho... http://www.google.com/search?site=&...1c.1.16.mobile-gws-hp.QZ0mv46DVJE&safe=active
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I use Klipsh image ONE. Love them.
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Like everybody else said, the only thing you get with Beats is an overblown name. They don't suck buy they are just way overpriced for the sub par quality. Get something like klipsch or koss. Much better choices and they won't cost you an arm and a leg. Also I have used to pretty decent cheapo skull candies before. I wouldn't recommend spending over a 100 bucks on cans unless they were custom in-ear monitors abd those cost about a grand hahaha! Also head fi is a good website like everyone else has been saying
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This probably isn't the place to ask, but I will anyway haha
I bought the Logitech UE 6000 a few days ago and do like them quite a bit, but also liked the Bose qc 15 when I tried them in store. Unfortunately I wasn't able to try the two side by side and only got to try the qc-15 for a few minutes.
Can anyone give a fair review on their impressions of the qc15 in regards to sound, noise cancelling and leakage. If you have any use with the UE 6000 to compare that would be great too
I can get the qc15 brand new for 240-250 w/ tax. Paid 173+$30 warranty + tax for UE 6000 (About $220)
Sorry if drawing off topic. Thanks for your time
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you can find much better for less. my GF has a pair and loves them; i dislike them personally.

Slade8525 said:
you can find much better for less. my GF has a pair and loves them; i dislike them personally.
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How do you view their noise canceling in comparison to others you have tried?
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Worst value for quality I've ever seen in headphones. Check out some Harmon Kardons, sennheisers, or even Bose. That's a simple starting point
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Worst value for quality I've ever seen in headphones. Check out some Harmon Kardons, sennheisers, or even Bose. That's a simple starting point
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I assume you were responding to the op and not my post above...?
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Mike said:
I assume you were responding to the op and not my post above...?
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Sorry, you are right. I didn't read everyones posts. Just the fact that there is adults that are asking about beats kills me. I work for best buy and it drives me nuts to hear people thinking they are quality. Now I just have to get the same conversion rate as I have from iphones to android to go into beats to anything better haha
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beats are mostly supposed to be used with other BEATS devices; its just an EQ setting. their quality, sound, ergonomics, and value (to real DJ's and audio techs, whom i work with) is laughable at best. sound isolation isnt much different than other OTE units; most of that depends on how loud your music is lol.
Sennheiser HD 25-II for audiophiles for less, or Pioneer HDJ-2000 if you want bass and better quality/ergonomics.
i have both the Sennheiser HD 25-II and HDJ-2000; my GF has some red BEATS pro studios; for her its style; they stand out and match her car/lipstick etc. versus the HD 25 II's by Sennheiser and HDJ2000's, there is no competition. They are designed nicely, but not being able to comfortably use one ear without them sliding, and the fact they are CLEARLY worse aurally, i wont touch them. Other than bass, some $30 Panasonic HTX-7's actually have better fidelity.