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iPod-like Scroll Wheel

is it possible to navigate, for example contact, in HTC Touch Pro by scrolling the D-Pad?
so it would function like iPod's scroll wheel...
is there any program to do that?

Did you know.......there is a touch sceen?

TheChampJT said:
Did you know.......there is a touch sceen?
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yeah..
i know..
i just like to know whether it is possible or not..
hahhas.

is it just me, or is the iPod scroll wheel scroll is counter productive?
why scroll and stress your thumb doing a circular motion if you can just press and hold (up or down on a long list)? or tap once, twice or trice (for short ones)?
it's not as revolutionary and "re-inventing the wheel" as crApple wants you to believe, you know..
just another eye-catching gimic promoting devolution..

3D scroll - works in a few places - among others in the browser where You can zoom in and out - as much/less as you want. It works MUCH better than double tapping etc.
I which HTC would have implemented the scroll function in all their applications, because it is much easier to control how much to scroll.
I'm use to the wheel on SE M600 & Pxx - and this navigation is a lot quicker and more precise than tapping&touching - however does not look so cool in the bar

sfriis said:
3D scroll - works in a few places - among others in the browser where You can zoom in and out - as much/less as you want. It works MUCH better than double tapping etc.
I which HTC would have implemented the scroll function in all their applications, because it is much easier to control how much to scroll.
I'm use to the wheel on SE M600 & Pxx - and this navigation is a lot quicker and more precise than tapping&touching - however does not look so cool in the bar
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i'm talking about using the four way directional/navigational button below the display..
it's better to press/tap (and/or hold) the buttons instead of doing circular motions when going through lists..
the zooming function (using the touch sensitive navigation buttons) implemented by HTC really is precise and functional because it makes the process smooth (rather than step zooming) and it also gives the directions dual purpose (press to pan, rotate scroll to zoom).. but would you still prefer using it on very very long lists (say 200 contatct entries or songs on a playlist)?
let's disregard the touchscreen for a moment..
if one complete revolution scrolls you to about 10 entries, then it'll take you atleast 15 revolutions and approximately 15 seconds (one thumb revolution/sec) to reach the 150th entry..
then compare it to a single press of the down button and holding it down for, say, 10 seconds (depending on your key repitition and acceleration settings) to reach the 150th entry. then give or take 5 entry adjustment for precision.
which of the 2 do you think gets you there faster with a less sore thumb/wrist/ligament?
maybe that's why they didn't implement it thruout the system (to navigate lists).. because it is still better (and less stressful) to press than rotate your thumb when going up or down lists..

i find the scroll wheel usefull in some apps, and thankfull a list of applications that it can be made to work in and the appropriate registry entriles are detailed in this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406206&highlight=scroll
Its mains for the diamond but the pro is not so different.

I second that, scroll wheel is MUCH more precise. Sometimes it is really faster and more useful, especially when I just have one hand for operating my PPC (ie. audiomanager).
And btw, click&hold down is much more ardous than scrolling with the wheel (for me at least).

ytsejam_ said:
i'm talking about using the four way directional/navigational button below the display..
it's better to press/tap (and/or hold) the buttons instead of doing circular motions when going through lists..
the zooming function (using the touch sensitive navigation buttons) implemented by HTC really is precise and functional because it makes the process smooth (rather than step zooming) and it also gives the directions dual purpose (press to pan, rotate scroll to zoom).. but would you still prefer using it on very very long lists (say 200 contatct entries or songs on a playlist)?
let's disregard the touchscreen for a moment..
if one complete revolution scrolls you to about 10 entries, then it'll take you atleast 15 revolutions and approximately 15 seconds (one thumb revolution/sec) to reach the 150th entry..
then compare it to a single press of the down button and holding it down for, say, 10 seconds (depending on your key repitition and acceleration settings) to reach the 150th entry. then give or take 5 entry adjustment for precision.
which of the 2 do you think gets you there faster with a less sore thumb/wrist/ligament?
maybe that's why they didn't implement it thruout the system (to navigate lists).. because it is still better (and less stressful) to press than rotate your thumb when going up or down lists..
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I flick, it scrolls, when I've reached the desired item, I tap!

there is a little app called "ppod" and it's just a music player that looks like an ipod, you scroll using the touchscreen in the circular motion that you would with an ipod.

[Q] Anyone Else Prefer Physical Home Button Versus Virtual?

I prefer waking my phone by pressing the physical home button rather than using the side power button. Since the note has a larger foot print it's easier to reach the home button.
Also given Amoled's flaws, static images such as the notification bar and virtual on screen buttons would prematurely cause screen burn out which leads to ghosting. I've had the notification/status bar destroy my galaxy S screen.
Am I the only one that likes physical home button?

inurb said:
I prefer waking my phone by pressing the physical home button rather than using the side power button. Since the note has a larger foot print it's easier to reach the home button.
Also given Amoled's flaws, static images such as the notification bar and virtual on screen buttons would prematurely cause screen burn out which leads to ghosting. I've had the notification/status bar destroy my galaxy S screen.
Am I the only one that likes physical home button?
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Nopes You are not...I too like waking it up via the Home button....

I also prefer the physical home button compared to the capacitive touch buttons. This device is my first international phone that I have used and I like it a lot better than any carrier's version I've ever used.

I'd rater it was capacitive like menu and back buttons. Would make the design look so much better.
Can't say that i like software keys though - i always turn them off.

Given I'm the only one who voted Virtual so far; I better post my rationale to see if I am sensible or really need to get my head checked.
First; why I like the physical button; no accidental press and good demarcation of where the back and menu buttons are (and the home of course ) I tend to wake the phone using the side lock button, because my thumb is on the side already, when I pull the phone out of my pocket (right handed) but I grant that when my phone is on the table, its much easier with the home button.
On the other hand I would prefer it if the home button was the capacitive icon like the menu and back buttons. Advantages of this to me would be that it would distance Samsung from the iPhone-like single button front but mainly because I like the modern feel when I used a Galaxy Nexus. There is something to be said for the 'light touch' approach to using phones. I Swype the screen with a light touch, tap icons and links lightly, back-button lightly. Then *crunch* the home button goes. I know its a really weird niggle to make but it is just personal preference.
edit: Reading some of the posts which were made while I was composing this short essay, I think I may have misunderstood 'virtual button'.

Yep same here prefer sometimes it saves me when screen is stuck
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Physical for me as well. And I use Screen Off and Lock in the notification bar to, well, switch the screen off and lock the phone. Using the power button is soooo 2010.
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I never use the home button to wake the phone (well maybe that's because I only discovered that it can be used instead of the power button after having the note for like a month lol)

I've not had a virtual unit to compare against, but I could see some problems having a virtual home key.
So, I voted physical.

My opinion goes like this:
99/100 - Xperia X10 buttons (slim, long, elegant, easy to press. Proper positioning of Back, Home, Menu buttons).
80/100 - NOTE's physical buttons (though the Back and Menu buttons should trade places. Accidental capacitive presses occur when passing the phone to others).
60/100 - On-Screen buttons (ICS/JB).
What I would like for NOTE-2:
On-screen buttons:
-Then device can be smaller.
-Device looks better/styling.
-S PEN will work with it.
-We can customize it with different functions, colours, glows, animations, gestures, app shortcuts.

Kangal said:
My opinion goes like this:
99/100 - Xperia X10 buttons (slim, long, elegant, easy to press. Proper positioning of Back, Home, Menu buttons).
80/100 - NOTE's physical buttons (though the Back and Menu buttons should trade places. Accidental capacitive presses occur when passing the phone to others).
60/100 - On-Screen buttons (ICS/JB).
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+1 totally agree!
PS. The X10 buttons were great, too bad the phone sucked.
PPS. I really hope phone manufacturers keep disregarding the ics/jb onscreen buttons. It just looks fancy but is way less functional.

On-screen or capacitive. Tactile feedback reminds me of wear anf tear. On the Note, I unlock exclusively using the home key
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I prefer physical Home button of Note / GS2. It is easier to wake up the phone. But compared to other Android which have capactivie Home, I tend to press physical Home less frequently, but instead press capaitive Back couple of times to come back to home. When I must press Home for task switching or when I have browsed several pages in browser, I press Home. So my take is - I like physical Home to wake up but would have preferred capacitive Home to go to home screen.

Kangal said:
What I would like for NOTE-2:
On-screen buttons:
-Then device can be smaller.
-Device looks better/styling.
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Huh? Device can be smaller?! You know that the result would be a smaller screen, right? In fact, if you want the same (usable) screen size, the device has to have the exact same size, even with CB.
I´m really enjoying my hardware buttons and I really hope that samsung will never ever abandon them.
- Wakeup with home key
- NO IN-BURNS!!!
- brighter lightning, even when screen is in energy saving mode
- partwise usable for other functions (see hyperX camera mod)

It is as simple as this....
YOU PREFER YOUR GIRLFRIEND/WIFE TO BE "PHYSICAL" OR "VIRTUAL" ????
The answer to this is as easy as the answer to that

Rulinglionadi said:
It is as simple as this....
YOU PREFER YOUR GIRLFRIEND/WIFE TO BE "PHYSICAL" OR "VIRTUAL" ????
The answer to this is as easy as the answer to that
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:-D great analogy
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brooon said:
Huh? Device can be smaller?! You know that the result would be a smaller screen, right? In fact, if you want the same (usable) screen size, the device has to have the exact same size, even with CB.
I´m really enjoying my hardware buttons and I really hope that samsung will never ever abandon them.
- Wakeup with home key
- NO IN-BURNS!!!
- brighter lightning, even when screen is in energy saving mode
- partwise usable for other functions (see hyperX camera mod)
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Here's my reasons why NOTE 2 should get On-Screen buttons:
1) Position the Power button on top. Make it large. Make it clicky.
There you go, its easy to Wake phone again : )
2) The Burn-In is associated with the screen tech, not the buttons themselves.
This point is quite redundant/pointless. In fact the issue affected a tiny portion of Gnex users and the in-burn was associated with the entire screen NOT exclusive to the navigation buttons.
3) You do have a point. But changing the buttons to a white silhouette will make it bright and stand out. You then have the option of making it Grey so its easier on the eyes in the dark. Or red to save power. You can also set a "screen on time" for the Navigation buttons for how illuminated they are for what duration. And more options when in power mode. The possibility of tons of options makes this a positive thing, not a negative thing.
4) hyperX MOD is for the Volume Rocker not the Home/Back/Menu keys. Its still possible to have hyperX and On-screen buttons. What you will miss out on though is BLED: flashing of capacitive buttons when Notification arrives.
Solution: Notification light! (a la Gnex)
I'd like to make another suggestion: Curved Glass.
That way it molds around your face and bum cheeks. Feels a little more balanced in the hand. What do you think?

[Guide] Undocumented Features (Stock)

I've been playing with this phone non - stop now and I've found some interesting features that I haven't seen documented in any manual or guide , so I thought I'd share my findings with you all.
Alternate Menu / Back control with S-Pen :
Instead of drawing a backwards arrow or an upwards arrow while holding the button to activate back or menu, you can hold the button and swipe down from about an inch above either capacitive key (near the edge of the screen) to get the same effect.
Expand /Collapse Categories
I've found that in the e-mail client, you can expand and collapse the subsections of the main window by using two fingers to rotate clockwise (like spinning the compass direction in google maps) on the screen.
I don't know if these are shared functions with the original Note or if these have been documented somewhere but I've just missed it
Have you found any interesting undocumented features that you would I like to share?

When holding with one hand,press your Thumb in the middle of the screen and move it slowly all the way upwords in a loop,that will zoom out the home pages just like pinching.

When in a full screen mode (any app) swipe down quickly (from the outside of the screen) to toggle notification bar.
Only works if u swipe fast, slow won't activate it.
All credit to lucidmike for this very useful tip, check it out in his video here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri2tB9FuFsM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Was the N4 bottom nav designed by a lefty?

Just got the N4 yesterday and love it but for one really irksome thing -- that the back button, which I use a lot, is on the left while the "running apps" button, which I don't, is on the right. It's a big phone so having stuff as near as possible to the bottom right-hand corner is key to one-handed operation (for righties, of course). So when I'm using Google Reader, the back button is at bottom left, and the "Up to category list" button is at top left. Really slows things down.
Am I the only one annoyed by this? Is there a fix short of a new ROM?

A rom may allow you to swap the buttons around. It doesnt bother me I hold my phone in my left hand a lot.

That was a big reason why I decided to root and go to an AOKP rom. Back button on the right side now and I'm so much happier.

It bothered me at first when moving from a Galaxy S (back on right side) to the Galaxy Nexus (back on left side). Got used to it after about a month though.
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Never noticed! But I prefer to get rid of them for the screen real estate.

It's more of a design choice rather than a pragmatic decision. Back on the left makes more sense. Some apps move the screen to the right when they go back, so tapping back on the left side and having the screen goes left makes sense thematically. I came from a Galaxy S which also had a right-side back button, and I have accustomed myself to the left-side back button with little effort. It fits the flow of apps better.
However, I'm strongly against the removal of the Search button that started in 3.x. I used Search for many apps, and it was an amazing shortcut. Fullscreen browser? Press search and you got access to the URL bar. Looking for a contact? Search button. Want to do a search in a file explorer? There's a familiar button for that. Recents should have stayed as a long press of the Home button.

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It's more of a design choice rather than a pragmatic decision. Back on the left makes more sense. Some apps move the screen to the right when they go back, so tapping back on the left side and having the screen goes left makes sense thematically. I came from a Galaxy S which also had a right-side back button, and I have accustomed myself to the left-side back button with little effort. It fits the flow of apps better.
However, I'm strongly against the removal of the Search button that started in 3.x. I used Search for many apps, and it was an amazing shortcut. Fullscreen browser? Press search and you got access to the URL bar. Looking for a contact? Search button. Want to do a search in a file explorer? There's a familiar button for that. Recents should have stayed as a long press of the Home button.
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I disagree with long press on home as recents. Many android noobs didn't even know there was a a "alt tab" in Android until they've heard it from someone or was told by someone.
It's more intuitive when theres a recents button. As far as search, it's supposed to be on the top right of an app same with the legacy menu. On contacts, its on the bottom left.

IMO they should go back to the 4 capacitive buttons. Menu, Home, Back, Search. There was NOTHING wrong with this setup. Search was arguably the weakest one but with Google now, I'd say it's just as important as the rest of them. I get the fact that not all apps will have Menu, but Home and Back are just about universal, and Menu is used quite a bit too. The capacitive buttons free up screen real-estate too. I don't like styling things just for style's sake.

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IMO they should go back to the 4 capacitive buttons. Menu, Home, Back, Search. There was NOTHING wrong with this setup. Search was arguably the weakest one but with Google now, I'd say it's just as important as the rest of them. I get the fact that not all apps will have Menu, but Home and Back are just about universal, and Menu is used quite a bit too. The capacitive buttons free up screen real-estate too. I don't like styling things just for style's sake.
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That's the app's fault for not implementing the menu button on their app, regardless you have the legacy menu button the bottom right.
If you don't like it then install a custom ROM and change the navigation bar to your liking. It's simple as that, no reason to debate about this and how it should be on stock android.

zephiK said:
That's the app's fault for not implementing the menu button on their app, regardless you have the legacy menu button the bottom right.
If you don't like it then install a custom ROM and change the navigation bar to your liking. It's simple as that, no reason to debate about this and how it should be on stock android.
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I have, and I like my current setup (Menu, Home, Back). I'm just saying that I'd rather have the 4 capacitive buttons back.

zephiK said:
I disagree with long press on home as recents. Many android noobs didn't even know there was a a "alt tab" in Android until they've heard it from someone or was told by someone.
It's more intuitive when theres a recents button. As far as search, it's supposed to be on the top right of an app same with the legacy menu. On contacts, its on the bottom left.
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If only recents was actually comparable to Windows' Alt+tab. As it is, recents is no more useful to me than it was in Gingerbread

The best button choice for me would have been, in the order, BACK, HOME, MENU. You need to go to settings? Just press the "menu" button. Need to open recent apps? Just press and hold the "home" button. Simple as that.
It was all so much more consistent when the menu button was integrated in the system. Now you have to go and look for it in a place that differs from app to app... jeez, I feel like I'm holding an iPhone.
No menu and a dedicated, invasive multitasking app is a double step backwards for me.

SkippyFlipjack said:
Just got the N4 yesterday and love it but for one really irksome thing -- that the back button, which I use a lot, is on the left while the "running apps" button, which I don't, is on the right. It's a big phone so having stuff as near as possible to the bottom right-hand corner is key to one-handed operation (for righties, of course). So when I'm using Google Reader, the back button is at bottom left, and the "Up to category list" button is at top left. Really slows things down.
Am I the only one annoyed by this? Is there a fix short of a new ROM?
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That's how us lefty's feel living in a right handed world
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Hung0702 said:
It's more of a design choice rather than a pragmatic decision. Back on the left makes more sense. Some apps move the screen to the right when they go back, so tapping back on the left side and having the screen goes left makes sense thematically. I came from a Galaxy S which also had a right-side back button, and I have accustomed myself to the left-side back button with little effort. It fits the flow of apps better.
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I agree that design-wise it makes sense; the aesthete in me would take issue with a left-facing arrow button sitting on the right side, which sort of looks like it's telling you to press the button in the middle. I just think that these larger phones should design where possible for one-handed operation (and have a lefty mode too!)
note: by 'one-handed operation' no, I don't mean I'm watching porn

[GUIDE] Use Gesture Controls to avoid having to use Physical Buttons

If you're like me and you don't really like the soft-keys, you should also like this workaround. So I absolutely dislike having to press the physical home button especially since I'm coming from a history of Nexus devices and the fact that it throws off the balance of the device annoys me. (Yes, I know it's an extremely shallow problem haha)
My workaround was to use on-screen buttons. However, the screen is already 5 inches so I didn't want to use any screen real estate for buttons. Came across an app called All-In-One Gestures that lets you create gesture actions. If it's something that sounds interesting to you, you should give it a try as it makes navigating much more intuitive (opinion, of course).
My setup is currently a swipe up from the bottom of the screen in the middle for home, swipe diagonally from the left edge for back, and swipe diagonally from the right for multitasking. So if I'm using it left handed, a swipe will go back and a touch of the closest button will be multitasking, and if I'm using it right handed, a swipe will open the multitasking tray while a touch to the closest button will go back. It's proven really efficient for me!

devon4786 said:
If you're like me and you don't really like the soft-keys, you should also like this workaround. So I absolutely dislike having to press the physical home button especially since I'm coming from a history of Nexus devices and the fact that it throws off the balance of the device annoys me. (Yes, I know it's an extremely shallow problem haha)
My workaround was to use on-screen buttons. However, the screen is already 5 inches so I didn't want to use any screen real estate for buttons. Came across an app called All-In-One Gestures that lets you create gesture actions. If it's something that sounds interesting to you, you should give it a try as it makes navigating much more intuitive (opinion, of course).
My setup is currently a swipe up from the bottom of the screen in the middle for home, swipe diagonally from the left edge for back, and swipe diagonally from the right for multitasking. So if I'm using it left handed, a swipe will go back and a touch of the closest button will be multitasking, and if I'm using it right handed, a swipe will open the multitasking tray while a touch to the closest button will go back. It's proven really efficient for me!
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There is also an option for an on screen button(s) under settings >accessibility >dexterity and interaction>assistant menu. It sits as an button over the top of everything on screen and you can edit it to set different options and order of buttons. It might not have the gesture option but still pretty useful.
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One more alternative, fingerprint sensor as touch home key.

poolmaker said:
One more alternative, fingerprint sensor as touch home key.
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There's a reason why the S7 didn't come with Soft-Keys, it's because it uses an AMOLED Panel. Prolonged display of bright colors causes burn in, ( you can try checking the S7s at the retail store as those have burned in displays ). Hardware keys would be better to avoid this. Its also the reason why the objects on the Always On Display move around every now and then, its to preven't burnins

Revontheus said:
There's a reason why the S7 didn't come with Soft-Keys, it's because it uses an AMOLED Panel. Prolonged display of bright colors causes burn in, ( you can try checking the S7s at the retail store as those have burned in displays ). Hardware keys would be better to avoid this. Its also the reason why the objects on the Always On Display move around every now and then, its to preven't burnins
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1. Easyhome doesnt causes amoled burn-in.
Fingerprint sensor short touch is registered as home key.
Once again, fingerprint sensor.
2. Method described in OP is also burn-in free, in settings is possible to adjust transparency of "home area" to zero, therefore no object is permanently displayed.