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Macbook pro and Networking

Hey guys, I will start classes soon and my degree will be in Networking and Telecommunications.
I need to know if a macbook pro will be a good choice taking in consideration the fact that I can run Windows in it.
I may have to run Linux as well.
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Macs will run nicely with windows using bootcamp assistant. If you need to tri-boot use wubi in windows to get ubuntu (which doesn't like macs as much)

+1 for Macs. I'm working on a degree in Computer Science, and my MacBook Pro has been absolutely fantastic. I have OSX, Windows, and Ubuntu all bootable both independently, and inside OSX. I also recommend looking into VMware Fusion, or something similar for booting Windows/Ubuntu inside OSX.

I am finishing my degree with my macbook, from my experience the macosx has most of the FreeBSD libraries installed anyways.
So you might not even have to run linux in a virtual machine or multi-boot.

Would either of you guys know where I can get a macbook pro for a good price?
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nuggyunlimited said:
Would either of you guys know where I can get a macbook pro for a good price?
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Apple's education discount is great. You get $100 off, a free epson printer, plus a certain % off of the laptop and Applecare.
http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/education_routing

coder12 said:
Apple's education discount is great. You get $100 off, a free epson printer, plus a certain % off of the laptop and Applecare.
http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/education_routing
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Thanks a bunch
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Download Windows 8 Tonight

http://www.neowin.net/news/download-windows-8-developer-preview-tonight-at-8-pm-pdt
heres your chance to try out the next version of windows. the links go live at 8pm pacific standard time.
x86 & x64 flavors will be available as well.

let´s give it a try

orb3000 said:
let´s give it a try
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yeah i think this will replace my osx86 install. just be aware the servers will be jam packed tonight.

Hell yeah! Can't wait to try this out

Wicked!
Shame there's no ARM support in today's release though, would have loved to see W8 on the Tab, Touchpad or Xoom

Windows 8 ? First cousin to Vista ? Just another new system to have the bugs worked out of it ? No thanks.
XP Pro forever !!!

Cool, I thought they will release it later...

I have a feeling windows 8 is gonna be hard to get used to

If you're a technical person it will take you about 7 seconds.
If you can't get used to it, I'll politely ask you to GTFO and never enter this forum again
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naw3x said:
I have a feeling windows 8 is gonna be hard to get used to
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as long as i can shut of metro ill be good to go.
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Cool, I thought they will release it later...
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this is a pre-release beta, no where near final but suppose to be very stable.

If you can't download it tonight, it sure will be available in torrent form soon enough.

I'm ready. I'm about to format my PC reinstalling W7, and Will make an extra partition for W8.

You can see the keynote speech here: http://www.buildwindows.com/
Looks interesting, but will hold judgement until I can have a play. Not sure how well it will work on a non-touch laptop or pc.
Anandtech's hands on with it. At the start they use it with a bluetooth kb+mouse before switching to touch.

the_scotsman said:
You can see the keynote speech here: http://www.buildwindows.com/
Looks interesting, but will hold judgement until I can have a play. Not sure how well it will work on a non-touch laptop or pc.
Anandtech's hands on with it. At the start they use it with a bluetooth kb+mouse before switching to touch.
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All I have to say is this is horrible, absolutely horrible. What have they done?!
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I_am_Error said:
All I have to say is this is horrible, absolutely horrible. What have they done?!
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We can always switch to apple?

I support users who find XP and Word difficult to use, W8 from a business point of view at first glance is going to be hell.
I can see the support calls now:
"I've lost word, it was there a minute ago and now it's gone"
"Why does this keep appearing when I touch the edge of the screen?"
Or more likely in 2 years time "We've bought a new PC, install XP on it like all the rest"
Someone tell me we can hide Metro, please?
Otherwise MS will have missed the point again. We use interfaces designed for finger input on our phones/tablets because it is practical not because it is the best method (which clearly it isn't) . Likewise we use a keyboard/mouse on a PC rather than touch because they are more efficient.

The download is live on dev.windows.com. Just FYI

The Metro UI in Windows 8 can be deactivated and you can have the "normal" desktop style.
Downloading now!
Not as slow as I thought, sure later when more ppl download will be slower...

Downloading.. Somehow this just doesn't seem so promising as windows 7.. haha

Yep download is up. And is super slow. Chrome tells me 8 hours left lol. A 3.6GB torrent usually takes me about an hour to download

Anyone trying Windows 8?

Kind of off topic, but I'm just curious to know if anyone's tried out the Windows 8 developer preview. I'm trying it right now, and it's honestly not that bad. Some things still need work, but it's definitely something I could get use to.

I was curious about it too, got a link?
also can i dual boot it with win 7?

flimsy888 said:
also can i dual boot it with win 7?
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Yes, and if you really want to get a feel for it lifehacker has an article showing how to share files between the Windows 7 and 8 partitions.

flimsy888 said:
I was curious about it too, got a link?
also can i dual boot it with win 7?
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I havn't tried it yet, trying to get it to work with vmware.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/apps/br229516

I thew it on my 4 year old cheap laptop and after figuring out how to navigate the start menu I really like how fast it is. Only problem is I can't seem to be able to install .net framework, hence phonemypc won't work (I wanted to test drive metro ui on my epic since its touchscreen optimized) I'm gonna keep it on my laptop until the beta expires but I'm sad to say that I want a windows 8 tablet waaaaay more than even an ice cream tablet.
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Yeah I'm using it on a partition on my brand-new laptop. I really like it actually!
Metro UI is a bit to get used to, but I love using the touchpad multi-touch controls to navigate from panel-mode to the standard desktop, bootup is much faster, and I can share files fine between my regular Win7 partition and the Windows 8 partition.
@xopher.hunter, I had an issue with .NET 3.5, but it installed fine after a restart. YMMV...
I bought a Touchpad during the fire sale, and have yet to receive it from HP Small Business (have to wait for the last production run), but I wanna put Win8 on it when the ARM build gets out.

Im waiting for a windows 8 tablet to come out
I do NOT like the UI for desktops :/
WIndows 7 for my PC, windows 8 for tablet.
fk yeah.
Microsoft killed all of my interest in an android tablet when they revealed the metro ui windows 8. PERFECT TABLET OS (atleast based on what ive seen, it has all the right things.)
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actually...i just remembered in a previous video they didnt have metro ui on and it looked like windows 7...so i might just give it a shot if i can take the skin off..
Also, what's phonemypc? Remote desktop thing for the epic im guessing?

Lol you mean android prpo lol you dont get win took the source code rewrote it pstent it and you would fund that lol
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Lol you mean android prpo lol you dont get win took the source code rewrote it pstent it and you would fund that lol
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wut
10char

A_Flying_Fox said:
Also, what's phonemypc? Remote desktop thing for the epic im guessing?
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Its this 10 dollar app in the market, yes it is a remote desktop client but very well done and very simple to set up. Its a freaking life saver if you forget something on your computer.
I still haven't been able to install .net 3.5.1, I even dl'd the standalone but it still wanted to use microsoft update to install, and I rebooted it too. Oh well this is why I put this on my old ass laptop. Runs like a champ though only on 1.86ghz and 1.5gb of ram it seems ready for tablets alredy.
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I personally am hating the metro ui...its to hard to navigate. It's too big of a step. To me, its clunky. People were afraid of vista because of the glossy difference from xp, this is like 100x worse.

ugothakd said:
I personally am hating the metro ui...its to hard to navigate. It's too big of a step. To me, its clunky. People were afraid of vista because of the glossy difference from xp, this is like 100x worse.
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I find it too bland. (still wonder if I can change the green background to another color...)
Idk, I agree it's too tablet-like, but I like how everything is together.
Definitely doesn't make sense for a computer though.
I feel like we're going backwards a bit since we're basing computer UI off of mobile UIs which are meant to be more compact.
Even in OS X Lion, they had the "Launchpad" feature where it looked exactly like you were on an iPad.
Why do companies think people like this?

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I find it too bland. (still wonder if I can change the green background to another color...)
Idk, I agree it's too tablet-like, but I like how everything is together.
Definitely doesn't make sense for a computer though.
I feel like we're going backwards a bit since we're basing computer UI off of mobile UIs which are meant to be more compact.
Even in OS X Lion, they had the "Launchpad" feature where it looked exactly like you were on an iPad.
Why do companies think people like this?
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Idk. Maybe because they think it looks better than just a plain list, but now they're more interested in eye candy than functionality. Why can't we have both.
On the other topic, I would like to try windows 8, but it's not really useful for me since I have a 1024x600 netbook, so Metro Apps don't work. I've tried the hack that makes resolution higher on Windows 7, but it looks horrible with that.

my question is the lifehacker site says you need to burn a dvd or use a thumbdrive, can I also use a SD card? (don't want to waste a DVD and have no RWs at the moment)
Also will doing this erase everything on Win 7? I dual booted Ubuntu once and it didn't but LifeHacker says something about formmating the drive

R3537L1F3 said:
my question is the lifehacker site says you need to burn a dvd or use a thumbdrive, can I also use a SD card? (don't want to waste a DVD and have no RWs at the moment)
Also will doing this erase everything on Win 7? I dual booted Ubuntu once and it didn't but LifeHacker says something about formmating the drive
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Will not erase everything as long as you boot to dvd or usb (I don't think SD cards are bootable). You don't need to format, you need to partition (which is like grouping your hard drive, with one group for windows 7 and one for windows 8)

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Will not erase everything as long as you boot to dvd or usb (I don't think SD cards are bootable). You don't need to format, you need to partition (which is like grouping your hard drive, with one group for windows 7 and one for windows 8)
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Thanks. lucky me I found a dvd-rw

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I find it too bland. (still wonder if I can change the green background to another color...)
Idk, I agree it's too tablet-like, but I like how everything is together.
Definitely doesn't make sense for a computer though.
I feel like we're going backwards a bit since we're basing computer UI off of mobile UIs which are meant to be more compact.
Even in OS X Lion, they had the "Launchpad" feature where it looked exactly like you were on an iPad.
Why do companies think people like this?
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But you never actually have to use Launchpad, and its quite nice to find an app quickly without spotlight.
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WOW MICROSOFT WOW. so apparently the windows 8 on arm devices was largely overrated, ONLY METRO APPS WILL RUN ON ARM DEVICES.
guess im still waiting for an x86 tablet to get one
http://www.infoworld.com/d/microsoft-windows/windows-8-arm-chips-it-was-too-good-be-true-173265

xopher.hunter said:
WOW MICROSOFT WOW. so apparently the windows 8 on arm devices was largely overrated, ONLY METRO APPS WILL RUN ON ARM DEVICES.
guess im still waiting for an x86 tablet to get one
http://www.infoworld.com/d/microsoft-windows/windows-8-arm-chips-it-was-too-good-be-true-173265
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I dont think thats true. I dont think they can run Windows 7 apps, but I think they can run any app built for 8 or just windows for arm in general.

readingkeeper said:
But you never actually have to use Launchpad, and its quite nice to find an app quickly without spotlight.
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True, but I have my trackpad customized with a bunch of additional gestures, so if I just tap the top left corner of my trackpad, it shows spotlight.

Linux Distro/Flavor

Just wanted to take a quick poll, of those of you that use Linux, what distro and/or flavor are you on?
I'll start:
Ubuntu 12.10 > Normal/Default Ubuntu, Debian

I'm stuck with dual booting Windows 7 (my wife did it, don't ask me how) and if I could figure it out... I've been wanting to switch to Linux. I hate Windows.

bilgerryan said:
I'm stuck with dual booting Windows 7 (my wife did it, don't ask me how) and if I could figure it out... I've been wanting to switch to Linux. I hate Windows.
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Yeah I'm dual booting too, but in my case I have to stick with Windows because I'm not the only user...
When I get my new laptop I'll go full Linux lol
But what distro are you on?
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CNexus said:
Yeah I'm dual booting too, but in my case I have to stick with Windows because I'm not the only user...
When I get my new laptop I'll go full Linux lol
But what distro are you on?
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No I'm stuck dual booting two versions of Win7

bilgerryan said:
No I'm stuck dual booting two versions of Win7
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Ohh I thought you meant dual booting Windows and Linux...that sucks though
I'm about to install Linux after doing a fresh install of Windows! [dumb windows hard drive wouldn't let me shrink it]
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I run Linux Mint 14 now,coming from peppermint 3. Next I'll try lubuntu. I like the light distros.
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strapped365 said:
I run Linux Mint 14 now,coming from peppermint 3. Next I'll try lubuntu. I like the light distros.
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Whats mint like? Does it use Gnome as its desktop manager?
But I've heard that that ones pretty popular too so it must be nice lol
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CNexus said:
Whats mint like? Does it use Gnome as its file manager?
But I've heard that that ones pretty popular too so it must be nice lol
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To be honest I only installed it and adb, I haven't even got to mess with it. The newish android-tools-adb from software manager are slick it made Desktop my adb location so anything on my direct dektop is controllable with adb ( I think only tested adb devices ). Although I still have the actual sdk, I just wanted to try the software manager one.
I'm in the process now of just trying to get better and more fluent with terminal and Linux language. I was never really big on computers at all growing up but when I did use them it was always to do one task and that was on windows. So Linux really opened my eyes because if I don't need the computer to do much, why run all that bloat? I would rather install what I need vs uninstalling what I don't and risk breaking dependencies and OS.
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I use Ubuntu and have had it on a separate partition for probably 8ish years now(since second year of college). I sometimes bounce to another distro to try for a while, but always come back to Ubuntu because I am used to it.
I am really thinking about looking for another debian based distro(or ubuntu with a different desktop mananger) though because I kind of loath portions of Unity and the amazon integration. I don't mind having the side bar with app icons pinned to it, thats how I keep my win7 desktop setup. I absolutely hate just about everything else though.
For those that are comfortable with windows you may want to check out Zorin OS, its a ubuntu based distro that emulates the windows desktop manager.

I can never get linux to install. I've tried many times and always hangs on a black screen that shows what's connected to the usb ports I hate Windows 7/8 they suck
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YoungCorruptionV2.0 said:
I can never get linux to install. I've tried many times and always hangs on a black screen that shows what's connected to the usb ports I hate Windows 7/8 they suck
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Might be your graphics card. Check out "nomodeset" in some of the Linux forums
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YoungCorruptionV2.0 said:
I can never get linux to install. I've tried many times and always hangs on a black screen that shows what's connected to the usb ports I hate Windows 7/8 they suck
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What distros have you tried? I mean if you absolutely have to, you could always go with Wubi and install ubuntu inside your Windows OS
I had some problems with that though, so I just fresh installed Windows, shrank its hard drive space and installed Ubuntu on the other partition
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BigSplit said:
I use Ubuntu and have had it on a separate partition for probably 8ish years now(since second year of college). I sometimes bounce to another distro to try for a while, but always come back to Ubuntu because I am used to it.
I am really thinking about looking for another debian based distro(or ubuntu with a different desktop mananger) though because I kind of loath portions of Unity and the amazon integration. I don't mind having the side bar with app icons pinned to it, thats how I keep my win7 desktop setup. I absolutely hate just about everything else though.
For those that are comfortable with windows you may want to check out Zorin OS, its a ubuntu based distro that emulates the windows desktop manager.
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Yeah I know what you mean, I don't like all that integration either.
And there's also Kubuntu if you're more comfortable with Windows
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Might be your graphics card. Check out "nomodeset" in some of the Linux forums
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Will have to look into that. Thanks
CNexus said:
What distros have you tried? I mean if you absolutely have to, you could always go with Wubi and install ubuntu inside your Windows OS
I had some problems with that though, so I just fresh installed Windows, shrank its hard drive space and installed Ubuntu on the other partition
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I tried ubuntu, mint, red hat and a couple of others. I did try wubi to install in windows but when I tried to use it after installing my screen goes black with green lines. Maybe it is my graphics card. Ill have to look more into it when I get my computer fixed
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YoungCorruptionV2.0 said:
I can never get linux to install. I've tried many times and always hangs on a black screen that shows what's connected to the usb ports I hate Windows 7/8 they suck
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Same problem here

Fedora Fedora Fedora Fedora
honorable mention to Mint.

CNexus said:
Just wanted to take a quick poll, of those of you that use Linux, what distro and/or flavor are you on?
I'll start:
Ubuntu 12.10 > Normal/Default Ubuntu, Debian
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On my family computer I have ubuntu 12.10 w/ unity, docky and virtualized win7. Its an i7 with 8gb of ram so I don't care about it not being a light distro.
I chose ubuntu because its the most linux friendly distro and my mom, dad, and sisters use it a lot and I don't feel like being their tech guy all the time.
On my laptop I mostly use windows 7 because it really can't handle the main desktop environments (crappy processors and I've made it overheat a lot so that doesn't help the processors). I don't like how the light desktop environments look so I just use win7. All I do on it is research papers so it all works well lol
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BigSplit said:
I use Ubuntu and have had it on a separate partition for probably 8ish years now(since second year of college). I sometimes bounce to another distro to try for a while, but always come back to Ubuntu because I am used to it.
I am really thinking about looking for another debian based distro(or ubuntu with a different desktop mananger) though because I kind of loath portions of Unity and the amazon integration. I don't mind having the side bar with app icons pinned to it, thats how I keep my win7 desktop setup. I absolutely hate just about everything else though.
For those that are comfortable with windows you may want to check out Zorin OS, its a ubuntu based distro that emulates the windows desktop manager.
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Elementary os is a nice ubuntu based distro.
The latest beta is really nice.
Its pretty lightweight too.
I had it on my laptop for a while since it looked nice and it was lightweight.
After a while my processors were at 50-60% all the time so I got rid of it.
It still needs some polish (no minimize button in the windows lol) but I really liked it.
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Slack... ubuntu is Windows for free.
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How is it like windows?

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Slack... ubuntu is Windows for free.
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Lol if anything they're trying for the Mac look/interface and apple way of running things
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[Project]Mac Os X On XTZ?!

Hello there I was curious if there is a possibility i running mac osx on XTZ, and yes! There is that possibility! As you know there is way to install win xp on android devices using qemu and bochs. But Windows Xp?(srsly?) , so I decided to try running mac osx, on XTZ and it seems to work, actually pretty smooth! I have couple of pictures you can see, and tell me if it's a good idea or not. Anyway it's just testing and having fun, Yolo right? I will tell you more when my XTZ is going to be recharged.
Screenshots comming soon.

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Hello there I was curious if there is a possibility i running mac osx on XTZ, and yes! There is that possibility! As you know there is way to install win xp on android devices using qemu and bochs. But Windows Xp?(srsly?) , so I decided to try running mac osx, on XTZ and it seems to work, actually pretty smooth! I have couple of pictures you can see, and tell me if it's a good idea or not. Anyway it's just testing and having fun, Yolo right? I will tell you more when my XTZ is going to be recharged.
Screenshots comming soon.
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In theory, is possible due bochs abd qemu emulation of x86 architechture, but i think your goal is set too high, to say the least LOL
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I know But as I said it's just testing and it's for fun. Maybe in 20-50 years it's going to be more serious thing. And btw I'll upload photos tommorow. Merry Christmas Everyone!

In 20-50 years the last thing that will worry people is how their rusty ARM vintage gadget would run OSX...
We will have holographic interfaces and implants, like LCARS of Star Trek and the Borg LOL
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Hello there guys! It's christmas so I don't have much time, but here's the photo

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Hello there guys! It's christmas so I don't have much time, but here's the photo
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How well does it run?

Photos can be fakes, On the other hand, a video of the tatup of X could be more trusty

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Photos can be fakes, On the other hand, a video of the tatup of X could be more trusty
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I doubt the photos are fake, but I agree: a video showing the Mac OS X install running would be welcomed. A step-by-step description of how it was installed would also be welcomed. Several months ago, I installed Windows XP on Android using Qemu and Bochs by following this tutorial, but the install was disappointing; Windows XP ran extremely slow.

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I doubt the photos are fake, but I agree: a video showing the Mac OS X install running would be welcomed. A step-by-step description of how it was installed would also be welcomed. Several months ago, I installed Windows XP on Android using Qemu and Bochs by following this tutorial, but the install was disappointing; Windows XP ran extremely slow.
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That's right. Emulation of another architechture can be really painful. So i guess it will run smoothier on x86 devices.
This is just a guess, but that way you don really need to convert x86 code to ARM or MIPS code. It could be native

Hello! I'm back! Sorry I haven't used my tablet for a long time because battery time was awful. But now with 4.3 update it seems to work fine! Also I got usb otg cable (more possibilities!) And Now there's Mavericks. So even more fun! For those who think it's fake. I'll post a video soon . So don't worry. But before a video I have to try Mavericks and couple other things. I'll keep you updated!
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There is no way you can get OSX running at an acceptable speed on an ARM architecture. Emulation is really slow and OSX is quite a demanding OS. Just the bootloader and maybe a Darwin shell, sure, but actual OSX, hell no.

Yeah. I'm trying to get that to work. And I know that it's nearly impossible to install mac osx on non apple pc. And here we're talking about different cpu architecture etc. So only someone really bored would do that Well here you have me . At this moment I'm having lots of kernel panics. Maybe in 20-60years I'll make a perfect bootloader that translates code too . LOL. For now it's more like having fun than thinking seriously about this.
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