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[Q] OTA Update for G2 if you're not on T-Mobile

Hi all,
I'm new to this site (and this stuff in general) and just have a question. I'm using an unlocked G2 in Canada and was wondering if I'll still be able to get the 2.2.1 update even if I'm not on the T-mobile network. Sorry, if this was already asked and thank you for your patience with my noob-ness. (I couldn't find this searching through google).
Edit: O geeze. Put the wrong number down for update. =_=;

There is no official OTA yet. And you are already on 2.2, the update just does some small fixes/enhancements. As to whether you can get it, I would like to know as well.

Simple answer no. tmobile sends out the updates so if your not on there network you wont be able to get it as an over the air (ota) update
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xile6 said:
Simple answer no. tmobile sends out the updates so if your not on there network you wont be able to get it as an over the air (ota) update
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Would there be a manual way to get this update as opposed to OTA...?

xzxxzx said:
Would there be a manual way to get this update as opposed to OTA...?
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Yes, once the OTA hits someone will extract the link and host the update so that everyone doesn't have to wait for the OTA to roll out because TMo (and everyone else) pushes updates in batch form not all at once.
So yes you will be able to get it... just not in OTA form.

There was a checkin code, people were using to manually check for updates, but I dont know if that works for anyone?
Once we get full root, and the update is sent to us, im sure someone will create a post. From there you can download and install it.

xile6 said:
Simple answer no. tmobile sends out the updates so if your not on there network you wont be able to get it as an over the air (ota) update
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I got my G1 in Hong Kong and not using T-mobile, but I was able to get OTA update to 1.1 and 1.5

Sounds awesome. Here's hoping it doesn't take until a full root inorder to extract the update. Thanks, makes me feel more hopeful. Tethering and Wifi calling would be nice to have...

xile6 said:
Simple answer no. tmobile sends out the updates so if your not on there network you wont be able to get it as an over the air (ota) update
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That isn't entirely correct. OTA updates to the OS are Google-managed and are sent out for T-Mobile's phones pending T-Mobile's approval.

o>c said:
I got my G1 in Hong Kong and not using T-mobile, but I was able to get OTA update to 1.1 and 1.5
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Thats a lil off. 1.1 I understand that was sent by google to patch root. But 1.5 was all tmobile. Did u get 1.6 or u rooted after 1.5?
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Software update

used the update now option on my play again today and its now saying there's a new Sony Ericsson update, please go to sonyericsson.com/update
and use a PC to update
you need to go to
http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/sup...etailed/updateservice/xperia-play?cc=gb&lc=en
download the update tool.
the play update is 172.5MB
old Build - 3.0.A.2.181
new Build - 3.0.A.2.184
Orange UK play

Deblow said:
used the update now option on my play again today and its now saying there's a new Sony Ericsson update, please go to sonyericsson.com/update
and use a PC to update
you need to go to
http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/sup...etailed/updateservice/xperia-play?cc=gb&lc=en
download the update tool.
the play update is 172.5MB
old Build - 3.0.A.2.181
new Build - 3.0.A.2.184
Orange UK play
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the generic ones are already on 184 yours will be customized our small update was about 16mb i think

after messing on some games, Backstab & Asphalt
I'm sure there running a lot better with more FPS especially Backstab
BTW Waz, do you know if I'm safe to root my play?
its sim locked to orange but no orange logo on the back like there was on my desire
Thx

yeah though the safest way (same way im doing it) is with gingerbrick, leave the bootloader locked and just root it that way.

I already had that version when got my play
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hey were you guys rooted when you did the update? I've rooted with gingerbreak and I just want to make sure it's safe to do the update while rooted...bootloader is still locked!
thanks!

xchaotiKittenx said:
hey were you guys rooted when you did the update? I've rooted with gingerbreak and I just want to make sure it's safe to do the update while rooted...bootloader is still locked!
thanks!
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as long as your bootloader is locked and you rooted with gingerbrick your ok to update

What were the changes from xx.181 to xx.184? I updated mine but not noticed anything apart from a bit more slowdown?

Does this update block gingerbreak in any way? I'm not rooted yet, and I don't want to lose the ability to root (just haven't had the time to root it yet) after doing this update.

illuminerdi said:
Does this update block gingerbreak in any way? I'm not rooted yet, and I don't want to lose the ability to root (just haven't had the time to root it yet) after doing this update.
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no it doesn't

What if you used Titanium Backup or some other freeze program to freeze apps like Timescape and other bloatware. Do they need to all be restored before the update?

@waz can you still boot after using gingerbrick
And who makes such an app anyways
I would go for gingerbreak lol
Regards Dousan...

Dousan said:
@waz can you still boot after using gingerbrick
And who makes such an app anyways
I would go for gingerbreak lol
Regards Dousan...
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Lol doh! I knew what I meant
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Does his update bring HD recording? Because ive read that this is coming

No, its still 800x480
but my games and apps are running smother and faster
still amazingly slow at booting, i can turn it on before i set of to work and by the time i get to work its almost on lol

xchaotiKittenx said:
hey were you guys rooted when you did the update? I've rooted with gingerbreak and I just want to make sure it's safe to do the update while rooted...bootloader is still locked!
thanks!
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No, this is the 1st update iv done, and its still not rooted yet

xchaotiKittenx said:
hey were you guys rooted when you did the update? I've rooted with gingerbreak and I just want to make sure it's safe to do the update while rooted...bootloader is still locked!
thanks!
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Yes i was rooted updated then rooted again all is well
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waz000000 said:
yeah though the safest way (same way im doing it) is with gingerbrick, leave the bootloader locked and just root it that way.
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unlocked bootloader here
than update to 3.0.A.2.184
after that i rootet the xplay with gingerbreak 1.2(after installing i make a reboot)
now i`m happy

OTA with unlocked bootloader

Hi can we do a ota from stockfirmware with a unlocked bootloader or with seus?

Hey, don't do OTA with unlocked bootloader! DON'T. Many people have already bricked their arc and play by doing so, including me. There is a fix for this brick already, but warning beforehand!
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Update firmware through flashtool if you need to.
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Okay thanks for the early warning.

Welcome! Not to mention Sony Ericsson declines to fix phones with unlocked bootloader which are bricked. Not even if it got bricked through OTA. They will claim you responsible.
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Oh well I had it sim unlocked via testpoints it did bootloader aswell I think but just how do we check bootloader is unlocked?

jutley said:
Oh well I had it sim unlocked via testpoints it did bootloader aswell I think but just how do we check bootloader is unlocked?
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If you had your bootloader unlocked with testpoint method, you are free to OTA update with no issues, only phones unlocked through official sony method loose ability to OTA.
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AndroHero said:
If you had your bootloader unlocked with testpoint method, you are free to OTA update with no issues, only phones unlocked through official sony method loose ability to OTA.
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Hi I used Alejandrissimo method so am I good to go OTA?

jutley said:
Hi I used Alejandrissimo method so am I good to go OTA?
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Yep OTA away, you will have no issues. If you deleted any apps from /system/app/ though OTA will fail. You must restore /system/ to default state

I haven't deleted anything I just took the brand new phone out the box linked up with Alejandrissimo lol used a pair of tweezer to bridge the test point cause I couldn't find a paper clip anywhere and when done check it was unlocked and put it back in the box.

jutley said:
I haven't deleted anything I just took the brand new phone out the box linked up with Alejandrissimo lol used a pair of tweezer to bridge the test point cause I couldn't find a paper clip anywhere and when done check it was unlocked and put it back in the box.
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Your free to go then. If you flash doomlords kernel after OTA it will root your device too

Ok so i checked my firmware and its 3.0.A.2.184 android 2.3.2 it says i need to update this by pc so what do i use sony ericsson update service?
Update well i went ahead and used the pc updater and it flashed a newer firmware sucesfully so far so good no broken phone due to unlocked bootloader.
update and i can now confirm i have 4.0.A.2.368 android 2.3.3

Since I have updated my firmware with the sony pc updater would it have locked the bootloader?

jutley said:
Since I have updated my firmware with the sony pc updater would it have locked the bootloader?
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No!
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That's good now I want 2.3.4 but its not out yet do I wait? Or do i flash the generic vershion of 2.3.4 via flashtool now?

jutley said:
That's good now I want 2.3.4 but its not out yet do I wait? Or do i flash the generic vershion of 2.3.4 via flashtool now?
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Im using the one out of the development section. Works great

If I flash that I did download it last nite will the ota still work after for me.

jutley said:
If I flash that I did download it last nite will the ota still work after for me.
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Yes but you will only get updates for the region that rom is for! So for example if you flash the Generic/World version, you will only get Generic/World updates, And if you flash the nordic version you will only get nordic rom updates

Which one is the european sim free vershion? Any link.

jutley said:
Which one is the european sim free vershion? Any link.
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This is the one i'm using, It's the WWE (Worldwide English) version,. It does have some chinese apps but these are easly uninstalled
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1313505

[Q] I got 2.3.6 Update on Bell

I'm on Bell Canada stock 2.3.4 rom and I have unlocked boot loader. I got an update message today for 2.3.6 update. Should I go ahead with it?

Not the best at searching are ya. Here ya go .http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1388935
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I suggest that you capture and post back the OTA file here so people can look at it ...
I am under the assumption that phones with unlocked bootloaders won't be able to use OTA will have to manually update with fruitcakes. I may be wrong tho.

No,
I'm unlcoked.
I flashed the BELL 2.3.4 Stock and OTA worked fine.

noxlord said:
I suggest that you capture and post back the OTA file here so people can look at it ...
I am under the assumption that phones with unlocked bootloaders won't be able to use OTA will have to manually update with fruitcakes. I may be wrong tho.
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I think he means it may make u unable to downgrade if u upgrade with an ota.
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"You won't get 5.0 update if you have rooted your device" says MOTOROLA

Here is a copy of chat with motorola executive

This is because of new update script used in Lollipop.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...e-means-update-will-fail-system-modified-way/

bhavin192 said:
This is because of new update script used in Lollipop.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...e-means-update-will-fail-system-modified-way/
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I have flashed logo.bin file to remove unlock bootloader warning. will it make my device ineligible?

spbias said:
I have flashed logo.bin file to remove unlock bootloader warning. will it make my device ineligible?
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Better would be flash stock firmware or revert the changes and update the phone as written in the post by androidpolice

bhavin192 said:
Better would be flash stock firmware or revert the changes and update the phone as written in the post by androidpolice
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I flashed lolipop in my xt1068, then i reverted back to stock. In this process my unlocked bootloader warning is gone but bootloader is still unlocked. I don't want to flash the stock back right away If i get ota update its good butt if i won't there is xda always for me right?
Thanks for your help though

If you're on stock rom+recovery and you're not rooted, you can have your bootloader unlocked, you will still get the official update.

zman01 said:
If you're on stock rom+recovery and you're not rooted, you can have your bootloader unlocked, you will still get the official update.
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yeah thanks

Thanks a lot

I am carrying a XT1063, right out of the box, unmodified, as virgin as it could be and still NO Lolipop update 'til now and I keep patiently waiting.
The executive team should have cared for us more than worrying about rooted ones.

As usual chat support doesn't know diddly, because I received all the lollipop OTAs while being rooted.
You just can't install them while rooted though. So revert to your pre-root backup (YOU BACKED UP YOUR /SYSTEM BEFORE ROOTING, RIGHT??!??) and then install the OTA.

spbias said:
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HA HA HA! Great LAME joke by historical JOKERS! I have longtime rage on this company due to past bad experiences with this company. They did good by allowing easy and official unlock procedure.
But here you missed the GOLDEN CHANCE TO HUMILIATE them! I would have typed this, >>>> "LIKE WE DO CARE? HA HA HA! Look MotoJokers, if update comes to one UnRooted/Locked phone, it will be on all Rooted/UnLocked Phones within few hours! Go ahead and prove yourself loser. BTW I am on Brazil Lollipop 5.0.1"
LITERALLY! I would have literally said that. You really missed This happened in past and still no one worried.
zman01 said:
If you're on stock rom+recovery and you're not rooted, you can have your bootloader unlocked, you will still get the official update.
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Thats not always true. The update installer can easily trace the status of UNLOCKED bootloader and may refuse to install. Thats mostly possible. So dont just under-estimate. Update procedures can also recognize the rooted phone status and reject to install.
Does not matter if one unlocked/rooted phone gets next update, most people here on xda will have within few hours.

Lol seems like I missed for sure. Anyways I was only trying to gather info so....
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Guys I've had devices from apple, Samsung, sony and HTC plz stop *****in at least moto gives u an opportunity to taste the best as soon as possible, no one else does so stop complaining

cmahendra said:
Thats not always true. The update installer can easily trace the status of UNLOCKED bootloader and may refuse to install. Thats mostly possible. So dont just under-estimate. Update procedures can also recognize the rooted phone status and reject to install.
Does not matter if one unlocked/rooted phone gets next update, most people here on xda will have within few hours.
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In this case it's true, but if you don't beleive me, you can go to motorola owner's forum and ask them.

If people got the OTA's, then some of them will upload it so rooted and/or impatient users can flash them manually right?

votinh said:
I am carrying a XT1063, right out of the box, unmodified, as virgin as it could be and still NO Lolipop update 'til now and I keep patiently waiting.
The executive team should have cared for us more than worrying about rooted ones.
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I feel the exact same way! I've got a straight from Motorola retail XT1064 no changes and nothing....

I can't believe anyone would call that chat support an "executive"

What would you say then??
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spbias said:
What would you say then??
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First level CSR....

Okay I will remember that for next time. It doesn't matter anyways. What matters is the info.
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