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I think it is ridiculous to have the Xoom only be compatible with only Micro-SD card instead of regular SD card. It is not like the tab is so small that the regular SD card would not fit. It is NOT a phone.
Regular SD card has the benefit of:
1. Much much cheaper for a bigger space.
2. Did I say it is cheaper for a bigger space...?
3. Faster speed
I am not sure if it will use more energy and decrease battery life. But even still, how much more energy can it actually drain compared to the micro-SD card.
Sometimes I have no idea what the designers/engineers are thinking when they develop technology. There is always a missing screw somewhere.
Wow...I am finish ranting...
What a relief.....
Erm, internal space?
Earthbrain said:
I think it is ridiculous to have the Xoom only be compatible with only Micro-SD card instead of regular SD card. It is not like the tab is so small that the regular SD card would not fit. It is NOT a phone.
Regular SD card has the benefit of:
1. Much much cheaper for a bigger space.
2. Did I say it is cheaper for a bigger space...?
3. Faster speed
I am not sure if it will use more energy and decrease battery life. But even still, how much more energy can it actually drain compared to the micro-SD card.
Sometimes I have no idea what the designers/engineers are thinking when they develop technology. There is always a missing screw somewhere.
Wow...I am finish ranting...
What a relief.....
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What you forget is that by sticking with MicroSD it's more compatible with other devices. If you want to put that same card into your phone or any other mobile device, you have greater compatibility with MicroSD. If you want to put it in a regular SD card device, you can do so with an adapter, but you wouldn't have that same versatility/compatibility with a regular SD card as you would with MicroSD.
EnderTheThird said:
What you forget is that by sticking with MicroSD it's more compatible with other devices. If you want to put that same card into your phone or any other mobile device, you have greater compatibility with MicroSD. If you want to put it in a regular SD card device, you can do so with an adapter, but you wouldn't have that same versatility/compatibility with a regular SD card as you would with MicroSD.
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Maybe you can find some space behind the back cover to put one of these in? Might be worth a shot..
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/sd-to-microsd-transflash-card-converter-module-27001
While I agree that MicroSD is more compatible with other devices, I would imagine a normal SD card would give the Xoom a more competitive advantage over the iPads in terms of the amount of overall storage that they can use. There are already 64GB SD cards, while I believe the max for a MicroSD is still 32GB. (Correct me if I am wrong.)
blakejohnson86 said:
While I agree that MicroSD is more compatible with other devices, I would imagine a normal SD card would give the Xoom a more competitive advantage over the iPads in terms of the amount of overall storage that they can use. There are already 64GB SD cards, while I believe the max for a MicroSD is still 32GB. (Correct me if I am wrong.)
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You're wrong MicroSD has support for SDXC however, most devices are not SDXC compatible. Just as you will find that most SD card readers are not SDXC compatible.
Earthbrain said:
I think it is ridiculous to have the Xoom only be compatible with only Micro-SD card instead of regular SD card. It is not like the tab is so small that the regular SD card would not fit. It is NOT a phone.
Regular SD card has the benefit of:
1. Much much cheaper for a bigger space.
2. Did I say it is cheaper for a bigger space...?
3. Faster speed
I am not sure if it will use more energy and decrease battery life. But even still, how much more energy can it actually drain compared to the micro-SD card.
Sometimes I have no idea what the designers/engineers are thinking when they develop technology. There is always a missing screw somewhere.
Wow...I am finish ranting...
What a relief.....
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I only wish that what is already there would work.
EnderTheThird said:
What you forget is that by sticking with MicroSD it's more compatible with other devices. If you want to put that same card into your phone or any other mobile device, you have greater compatibility with MicroSD. If you want to put it in a regular SD card device, you can do so with an adapter, but you wouldn't have that same versatility/compatibility with a regular SD card as you would with MicroSD.
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But if the Xoom had a SD slot instead of MicroSD you could just use that same MicroSD card with the adapter in the Xoom.
If you're gonne be swapping out a card from the Xoom to a phone, you might as well be using the SD slot to store the MicroSD to SD adapter.
It would cost Moto pennies to include the adapter in that slot, but still allow people to just dump it and use a regular SD card in there if they want to
In my opinion, its all about having options. (Thats why we like android after all) An SD card slot would give us options, to use a MicroSD in there with an adapter, or to use a regular SD if we'd rather do that. The MicroSD slot doesn't give us the same option in reverse.
Its really not a big deal to me, but thats just what the case in favor of it would be.
Why can't my aunt have male genitals... then she'd be my uncle and we could play basketball together.
WHY?????
gbenj said:
But if the Xoom had a SD slot instead of MicroSD you could just use that same MicroSD card with the adapter in the Xoom.
If you're gonne be swapping out a card from the Xoom to a phone, you might as well be using the SD slot to store the MicroSD to SD adapter.
It would cost Moto pennies to include the adapter in that slot, but still allow people to just dump it and use a regular SD card in there if they want to
In my opinion, its all about having options. (Thats why we like android after all) An SD card slot would give us options, to use a MicroSD in there with an adapter, or to use a regular SD if we'd rather do that. The MicroSD slot doesn't give us the same option in reverse.
Its really not a big deal to me, but thats just what the case in favor of it would be.
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That is my thought exactly.
That is why I made this post.
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What you forget is that by sticking with MicroSD it's more compatible with other devices. If you want to put that same card into your phone or any other mobile device, you have greater compatibility with MicroSD. If you want to put it in a regular SD card device, you can do so with an adapter, but you wouldn't have that same versatility/compatibility with a regular SD card as you would with MicroSD.
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Uh, in the situations you described, an SD card slot would be a MUCH better choice. Having an SD card slot would give you the OPTION to use an SD card, and the OPTION to use an SD to microSD converter and use a microsd card. So if you were concerned with sharing media between phone and tablet, you would just need that little SD to microsd converter.
Edit: I see now that this point has been made multiple times.
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Why can't my aunt have male genitals... then she'd be my uncle and we could play basketball together.
WHY?????
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You too?!?! I thought I was the only one who wondered that! Lmfao classic
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I wish it had an SD card primarily for viewing pictures from digital cameras.
I do not want to put a microSD card and an adapter into my DSLR, and as many have mentioned, the larger storages and faster read/write speeds are cheaper for an SD card versus the same capacity microSD counterpart.
SD card would have made so much more sense. Hell, I don't even care if Motorola included an adapter, who the **** here has more than one microSD card and zero adapters? I think I have like 2 adapters, maybe even 3.
Micro SD jus the universal mobile standard
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Sorry man I don't really see it as a problem unless you have a camera with a regular SD card slot. If this is the case buy a MicroSD with the adapter thats what I do. If I buy any new cards I get Micro and make sure it comes with the adapter. That way I am #winning. The cards are so cheap anyway. Who would have thought you could buy and 8gb card for less then 20 bucks?
zone23 said:
Sorry man I don't really see it as a problem unless you have a camera with a regular SD card slot. If this is the case buy a MicroSD with the adapter thats what I do. If I buy any new cards I get Micro and make sure it comes with the adapter. That way I am #winning.
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"and as many have mentioned, the larger storages and faster read/write speeds are cheaper for an SD card versus the same capacity microSD counterpart."
That is why I don't want to put a microSD card in it!
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"and as many have mentioned, the larger storages and faster read/write speeds are cheaper for an SD card versus the same capacity microSD counterpart."
That is why I don't want to put a microSD card in it!
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I understand the cost factor. When you get into the larger capacities the prices between a 32gb card doubles for a Micro SD. Its just another way for the man to stick it too ya.
I'm glad it's microsd, the xoom is thick enough as is imo
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Honestly guys? You make think the tablet has "plenty of space", but if you've ever done product design or circuit board layout, you'll find that anything smaller makes a big difference. I used to think the change to MicroUSB from MiniUSB was lame, but I've laid out some circuit boards with both connectors, and *MAN* are Mini USB connectors huge!
I felt the same way about the change from SD, to Mini SD, to MicroSD, but honestly, regular SD is huge.
They did it because of size guys, thats all there is to it.
If you want to connect your camera, the Xoom supports USB hosting so you can just plug it right in (Does it work with cameras? I don't have my Xoom yet, but I thought they said it does or will support this), or just use a MicroSD card in your camera. 8GB cards are like $15, and do you really need that much space in your camera? I'm a photographer (well, its a hobby) with a Canon 40D and I only carry like 6 gigs of cards on me (a 4 and a backup 2).
If you never take the pictures off your camera I could see it being an issue, but I never do that for fear of losing them if I lose the camera or the memory fails.
Anyway, none of that matters. They did it because of size. It really does make that big of a difference.
So I'm wondering if there is a micro SD card slot then do you really need to buy the 32gb version? It appears that the current math among tablet manufacturer's is $100 for 16gb of memory which is obviously a joke. So if i buy the 16gb version and then buy a 16gb sd card ($25) do I effectively come out with the same thing for $75 cheaper?
Depends how you use it. I think it will behave like the Samsung Galaxy S in that the built in memory will appear as a different location to the external memory. Files cannot span both locations and thus your file may not fit even though the total combined free space you have left is larger than the file you are trying to copy.
well if thats the case then in general it will work just fine. Chances arent very good that i'm going to have some massive file on there.
Internal memory is probably faster than 25$ microSD card.
You could spend $90 on a Class 10 32GB card and be looking pretty good.
there you go, 32 gb for the price they are offering 16gigs. sounds good to me. not only that but you can spread that cost. Drop the $499 now, wait a couple months and get the micro sd later. thanks for the info
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Internal memory is probably faster than 25$ microSD card.
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On my galaxy s, my class 4 micro sd card is as quick is the internal memory. I'm sure the tab will allow quicker speeds but it's worth noting that a class 4 card is sufficiently fast enough to play back 1080p without problems. If you want to save time transferring files between tablet and pc then fair enough but I would personally save money and get a class 4 and make a cup of tea while it copies
Just but the 16GB, as long as it has a micro SD slot you won't need anymore than that.
Thats pretty much what it mean, the question now is whether it will actually have an SD card slot, I have read conflicting reports that it does and does not have one.
Blueman101 said:
Thats pretty much what it mean, the question now is whether it will actually have an SD card slot, I have read conflicting reports that it does and does not have one.
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I think the conflicting reports are due to two different versions of the Tab 10.1. The version shown during the MWC does not appear to have a MicroSD card slot. The newer version shown at CTIA does have a MicroSD card slot. Most reviews are consistent with this but a few have gotten it wrong which has probably led to the confusion.
There's a number of differences between the versions but the easy to identify differences are thickness and MP of the rear camera. The first version (MWC) is 10.9mm thick and has an 8MP rear camera. The newer version (CTIA) is 8.6mm thick and has a 3MP rear camera.
Techno79 said:
I think the conflicting reports are due to two different versions of the Tab 10.1. The version shown during the MWC does not appear to have a MicroSD card slot. The newer version shown at CTIA does have a MicroSD card slot. Most reviews are consistent with this but a few have gotten it wrong which has probably led to the confusion.
There's a number of differences between the versions but the easy to identify differences are thickness and MP of the rear camera. The first version (MWC) is 10.9mm thick and has an 8MP rear camera. The newer version (CTIA) is 8.6mm thick and has a 3MP rear camera.
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Yeah i figure thats about what happened. Hopefully we will see some detailed(confirmed) specs soon so we can know what is really driving this thing. Also, perhaps finally review the optional UI question.
Dear Samsung,
Y U NO INFORM EXCITED PUBLIC OF FINAL SPECS!
Actually, what I want is 64GB internal memory model, with or without microSD card
I prefer without, if the space can be used to a little bit more battery and/or reduce the weight!.
I am now getting used to Nexus S, the one without microSD card. To my surprise, I can live with it, comfortably
true, you probably can live without an SD card. But the reason most people will probably get a 16gb plus a 32gb SD is because its cheaper (even with the extra 32gb SD card purchase) then paying an extra $100 for a mere 16GB
I actually have a 16gb class 4 sitting around collecting dust. I'll just stick it in 16gb model
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jvs60 said:
I actually have a 16gb class 4 sitting around collecting dust. I'll just stick it in 16gb model
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there ya go
gogol said:
Actually, what I want is 64GB internal memory model, with or without microSD card
I prefer without, if the space can be used to a little bit more battery and/or reduce the weight!.
I am now getting used to Nexus S, the one without microSD card. To my surprise, I can live with it, comfortably
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I wouldn't have thought removing a MicroSD card slot would save much space or weight. A MicroSD card is tiny as too the housing for the slot.
For me, the want of a MicroSD card slot is not for expanding storage space cheaply but more for being able to transfer files to/from MicroSD easily. There's many situations when I would want to do this with a MicroSD card from my other devices or it is a MicroSD card from someone else I am with. In those situations, it's sometimes easier than faffing around with cables, bluetooth or Wifi. So the slot just gives another option.
That's true. Having microSD is handy. Especially if you want to transfer a lot of files or big files.
But, my point is that no-microSD will not stop me buying a tablet
After I owned Nexus S, I don't think it is important anymore as long as the internal storage is big enough.
Again, this is my own preference
Techno79 said:
I wouldn't have thought removing a MicroSD card slot would save much space or weight. A MicroSD card is tiny as too the housing for the slot.
For me, the want of a MicroSD card slot is not for expanding storage space cheaply but more for being able to transfer files to/from MicroSD easily. There's many situations when I would want to do this with a MicroSD card from my other devices or it is a MicroSD card from someone else I am with. In those situations, it's sometimes easier than faffing around with cables, bluetooth or Wifi. So the slot just gives another option.
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Blueman101 said:
Yeah i figure thats about what happened. Hopefully we will see some detailed(confirmed) specs soon so we can know what is really driving this thing. Also, perhaps finally review the optional UI question.
Dear Samsung,
Y U NO INFORM EXCITED PUBLIC OF FINAL SPECS!
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The one released in Aust. last week is a 16GB no SD slot model. I haven't seen a confirmation of the one that has the SD slot but have heard rumours that it will be thinner and up to 32GB.
I thought the internal memory was available to both system & data doesn't this mean that the internal memory would be an ext flavour rather than a FAT?
I see your point and I have to agree that it does seem a bit cheaper just to get the 16gb model and buy a 16gb sd card unless u plan on being a data/movie packrat on ur Tab in which case you will want to get the 32gb model as well as a 32gb sd card.
I want the highest storage available period!
I don't care if it cost more. I would rather get a 32 GB and have another 32 GB of SD card storage.
I wish that there is a 64 GB version with SD card slot so that I can have 32 GB SD card to make the total of 96 GB.
I can never have enough space because I have so many HD movies that I want to store in my tablet.
Hi,
I need some advice here.
I was about to back the kickstarter project for the mini microsd card reader http://www.kickstarter.com/projects...-smartphones-and-ta/posts/458396?ref=activity
However, I saw a usb drive that has a micro usb slot. http://list.qoo10.sg/item/UNUS-SMART-X-OTG-USB-FLASH-MEMORY-4GB/409872086?banner_no=3053
I am intending to use it to store games on it.
I tried using the long otg cable with my sd card to store games previously but i found that there is a certain lag to it.
Do you guys think getting the usb drive will speed up the perfomance? or will the mini microsd card be better?
delonicdevil said:
...Do you guys think getting the usb drive will speed up the performance? or will the mini microsd card be better?
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Not necessarily. It's probably the class rating of the SD card. I would first try to verify what the speed class rating is of your microSD card. If it does seem to be substantial, then you might pursue one of those devices. I'm willing to bet that you just need a faster card.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sd_card#Speed_Class_Rating
Hi guys, I found a little thing I thought I might share, a mod to fit a larger than 64gb sd card to the Note 10.1.
I found an sd to micro sd adatpor here - www.linitx.com/product/sdmicro-to-sd-card-adapter/11922
It is an internal sd card adaptor so fits inside the micro sd card slot of your Note 10.1. It takes 128gb or 256gb sd cards and as they are formatted exFat the Note 10.1 will run them with no problem.
I use a Zenus case so I have the sd card adaptor stuck to the back of the Note and then put back in the case to protect it. I'm sure an enterprising person out there may decide to do an internal mod but I really don't have time and this works for me...
It works fine, I'm running a 128Gb sd card with no problems.
Thought it might be of interest to you lot so posted here...
Cheers....
Glad to hear it works but if it's gonna hang out anyway, why not use a much cheaper OTG cable and a much cheaper USB stick?
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ultramag69 said:
Hi guys, I found a little thing I thought I might share, a mod to fit a larger than 64gb sd card to the Note 10.1.
I found an sd to micro sd adatpor here - www.linitx.com/product/sdmicro-to-sd-card-adapter/11922
It is an internal sd card adaptor so fits inside the micro sd card slot of your Note 10.1. It takes 128gb or 256gb sd cards and as they are formatted exFat the Note 10.1 will run them with no problem.
I use a Zenus case so I have the sd card adaptor stuck to the back of the Note and then put back in the case to protect it. I'm sure an enterprising person out there may decide to do an internal mod but I really don't have time and this works for me...
It works fine, I'm running a 128Gb sd card with no problems.
Thought it might be of interest to you lot so posted here...
Cheers....
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Can you post some pictures of the actual device... Want to see if I can mod and fit into my note 3
aalupatti said:
Can you post some pictures of the actual device... Want to see if I can mod and fit into my note 3
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You can, Its where I found the link for the sd adaptor.
Here's the link to the Note 3 thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2518175
Couldn't find it before....
Glad to hear it works but if it's gonna hang out anyway, why not use a much cheaper OTG cable and a much cheaper USB stick?
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I found the battery drain on the OTG was considerable.
It is very good battery life using the sd adaptor. I was watching movies and TV shows for a solid 6 1/2 hours with another 1 1/2 browsing and downloading and only got to 46% battery.
I thought I should mention I use only the 128Gb sd card but even so it has enough storage now....
wow, for real, haha, this is so good
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Perhaps I try something like this with my next phone...
Would this work for some of the SDIO cards that offer 3G/LTE connection?
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ultramag69 said:
Hi guys, I found a little thing I thought I might share, a mod to fit a larger than 64gb sd card to the Note 10.1.
I found an sd to micro sd adatpor here - www.linitx.com/product/sdmicro-to-sd-card-adapter/11922
Cheers....
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Only just seen this. Have thanked.
The OTG multicard adapter I use is a real PIA. I can't stand the Tablet up with it in the way my case is made. This looks good. [edit] Even if I only use it for 32/64GB cards ! [/edit]
Hey guys, sorry to bring back such an old thread, but I got a 256GB SD card but how can I format it to exFat?
elite-fusion said:
Hey guys, sorry to bring back such an old thread, but I got a 256GB SD card but how can I format it to exFat?
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Easeus is what I use to partition and format.
But question is will I be able to format exFat a 256GB SD card? I heard 128GB is the highest that can be exFat?
Hello,
The title is pretty self explanatory. I have a Samsung S10+ that is constrained to a maximum internal SD Card size of 512GB.
I wonder if I can use a USB Type-C OTG hub along with a 1tb SD card? Or will the phone fail to cooperate with the full 1tb external storage.
Thank you.
Dear Cam said:
Hello,
The title is pretty self explanatory. I have a Samsung S10+ that is constrained to a maximum internal SD Card size of 512GB.
I wonder if I can use a USB Type-C OTG hub along with a 1tb SD card? Or will the phone fail to cooperate with the full 1tb external storage.
Thank you.
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There's not really a simple answer for this. Generally, Android can support storage far into the terabit range, so SDcard size limits are generally dictated by artificial limits in the software. An external SDcard and USB OTG are both considered removeable storage, so limits that apply to one will likely apply to the other.
However...
OEMs tend to fib a lot when it comes to supported SDcard sizes. My T290 supposedly only supports up to 128GB but I've used a 512GB in it with no issues. They do this so that you'll buy a higher priced device, and sometimes implement artificial limits as described above.
I'd say just try it. Get a 1TB card on Amazon, and if it doesn't work, return it. If it does, make sure you let the S10 community know what you were able to "get away with".
Wow, amazing response thank you. I have ordered the 1TB SD card and will let you know how it goes. Hoping it will work just by slotting it in, without the need for the USB OTG hub.
It probably won't be able to use or address the full memory if used in the SD card slot. Not sure how it will respond with a OTG porting?
A OTG hook in will be substantially slower than using a V30 rated SD card in the SD card slot.
I won't buy anything slower than V30 rated SD cards because of this.
SDXC is *technically* limited to 2TB. The maximum sizes often reported in specs is the card size it is certified (ie tested) with. There can be bugs for larger sizes sometimes. That being said, I can mount my 1TB card in el $150 chinese tablets that say they can mount 64GB cards... so I don't see the reason it wouldn't work on your S10+ in particular...
While you can use USB OTG with Paragon ASF, its just too much of a flimsy thing compared to plain SD card.