So Jelly Bean is coming. It has some really cool features. Looking forward to see it on our beloved G2. Is it even possible?
http://developer.android.com/about/versions/jelly-bean.html
It will also be launched for the Nexus S so the G2 should be capable of running it smothly!
It doesn't seem like that big of a jump compared to the leap from Gingerbread to 4.0. I think the devs will sort it out quickly :good:
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It doesn't seem like that big of a jump compared to the leap from Gingerbread to 4.0. I think the devs will sort it out quickly :good:
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I was thinking the same thing. I mean, that in no way is meant to imply it will be even slightly easy, but I think it will be easier than gingerbread to ICS Hopefully! I will be buying the Nexus 7 anyways so no big worries for a rush there, but I would still love to have it on my phone!
Project Butter improves Android 4.1's speed to a silky-smooth 60FPS
As part of its unveiling of Android 4.1 Jelly Bean, Google has unveiled Project Butter, a major effort to squash Android's frequent problems with device lag, as well as Systrace to help diagnose performance. Project Butter lets the CPU and graphics run in parallel, rather than crash into each other, and has a big impact on both real and perceived speed: the entire interface runs at 60 frames per second on sufficiently fast hardware. Graphics are now triple-buffered to keep scrolling and transitions humming along, and the processor will swing into full gear the moment you touch the screen to keep input lag to a minimum. Systrace, in the meantime, will help developers stamp out what performance hiccups remain. The tracing tool will be a part of the Jelly Bean SDK, so every coder can get an app running in tip-top shape.
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If the G2 is not officially getting ICS it wont get this. We still dont even have the official drivers needed for ICS, probably won't (we're waiting for the ones from the Desire HD to be released).
If there is one thing I learned from this experience is to get a Nexus device.
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I'm really hoping that our talented G2 devs can at least get Jelly Bean on our devices. I'm not going to expect anything beyond that however, given the age of our phones. All that talk about Jelly Bean's "Project Butter" has me worried, though. The only major bugs left in our ICS roms are mostly graphics related (garbled text, random visual glitches), this may be a large roadblock for us.
For an "incremental" 0.1 update, they've packed quite a bit of improvements.
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I'm really hoping that our talented G2 devs can at least get Jelly Bean on our devices. I'm not going to expect anything beyond that however, given the age of our phones. All that talk about Jelly Bean's "Project Butter" has me worried, though. The only major bugs left in our ICS roms are mostly graphics related (garbled text, random visual glitches), this may be a large roadblock for us.
For an "incremental" 0.1 update, they've packed quite a bit of improvements.
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Wouldn't those updates be related to CPU scheduling stuff and other „interesting” parts like that ? I mean, if we get the graphics stack done for 4.0 (HTC, where is that goddamn Desire HD update ?!) it wouldn't be that much of a bother to add some optimizations here and there.
Alas, I am not a dev and no one has seen the source code yet. Better wait for the source to come out and someone to look at it before making assumptions
If the devs can get 4.0 working, 4.1 shouldn't be that big of a deal. We just REALLY need that Desire HD update to come out.
As someone else said, you would need the G2/Vision to get ICS officially before you can have much hope at all of it getting JellyBean. Though we got a lot of ICS roms for the G2 (With the exception of the camera working as well as GB) so who knows.
The Galaxy Nexus has already received an OTA for it :O
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xT4Z1N4TRx said:
The Galaxy Nexus has already received an OTA for it :O
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Well, it was said that it is the first device to receive Jelly Bean.
bogdan5844 said:
Well, it was said that it is the first device to receive Jelly Bean.
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I thought it would take a month or two though
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The Galaxy Nexus has already received an OTA for it :O
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What about the source code? When do they release that, i only see things about galaxy nexus will get half july and stuff.
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The Galaxy Nexus has already received an OTA for it :O
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Well it is a Nexus...
Afaik only google i/o galaxy nexus got the ota. I think that when every galaxy nexus gets the update the source code will be released
Don't you think it's a little bit too early? Cyanogen 10 when we don't have cyanogen 9 but for a few devices?
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Afaik only google i/o galaxy nexus got the ota. I think that when every galaxy nexus gets the update the source code will be released
Don't you think it's a little bit too early? Cyanogen 10 when we don't have cyanogen 9 but for a few devices?
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I think they will cal it cm9.1.
But since they named android 2.2 CM6 and 2.3 CM7 you maybe right.
To anwser your question: No it is not too early because devices with CM9 wont run any slower just because there is an beter and newer CM. So it will only speed up development. The only negative play here could be jealousy towards galaxy nexus users.
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I think they will cal it cm9.1.
But since they named android 2.2 CM6 and 2.3 CM7 you maybe right.
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The CM team has officially stated that their numbering scheme is tied to the code name. That's why they skipped CM8. It corresponded to Honeycomb, which they never ported.
I was wondering if the devs would consider polishing our 4.0 roms? I heard linaro Rom is very good.
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Afaik only google i/o galaxy nexus got the ota. I think that when every galaxy nexus gets the update the source code will be released
Don't you think it's a little bit too early? Cyanogen 10 when we don't have cyanogen 9 but for a few devices?
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Yes I think you're right, but then i think they system dumped and then got a custom rom for all the others ?
Afaik only google i/o galaxy nexus got the ota. I think that when every galaxy nexus gets the update the source code will be released
Don't you think it's a little bit too early? Cyanogen 10 when we don't have cyanogen 9 but for a few devices?
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Not necessarily. Android updates tends to be updated every 6 months or so if I recall. ICS was late last year, so it kind of makes sense. My guess is that development has seemed slow for several reason.
1) Drastic changes, especially in the camera, from 2.3 to 4.0
2) Honeycomb never was truly "released", thus a gap that allowed Gingerbread to be polished.
3) CM servers were down for a while, possibly cutting into early nightlies for CM9.
I had a fourth point and now I can't remember it. Maybe something about manufacturers being slow this time around. I remember reading that it typically took manufacturers 60 days on average to update their devices after a release. Seems longer now (again, possibly with changes).
Maybe I'm completely off. I didn't join the Android team until 2.2 so I never knew the older versions. :laugh:
Edit: I quoted the wrong post
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Another phone looks to be coming in April, (via BGR). Hopefully we also get 2.4 as soon as this launches, and that we don't have to wait...
http://www.bgr.com/2011/02/07/android-2-4-reportedly-lands-in-april-viewsonic-among-first-to-launch/
uhhhhhhh... interesting to see ViewSonic coming to the battleground
they used to be famous for their Displays and Monitors... i wonder if they plan to release their own screens to fight against Samsung & Sony
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uhhhhhhh... interesting to see ViewSonic coming to the battleground
they used to be famous for their Displays and Monitors... i wonder if they plan to release their own screens to fight against Samsung & Sony
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Should be interesting. Also, I had not heard of a ViewSonic phone before this article, and I am not sure if I am liking its design.
Nonetheless, based on what you said, it's good to see others come along and hopefully compete with Samsung, especially since so many people do not like or want a Samsung phone - other than to have Samsung's beautiful phone screen.
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Should be interesting. Also, I had not heard of a ViewSonic phone before this article, and I am not sure if I am liking its design.
Nonetheless, based on what you said, it's good to see others come along and hopefully compete with Samsung, especially since so many people do not like or want a Samsung phone - other than to have Samsung's beautiful phone screen.
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that's exactly my problem
I love their screens, but not so much their bugged phones
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that's exactly my problem
I love their screens, but not so much their bugged phones
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Ditto. There are a few other interesting forays into the smartphone market this year like vizio. Ill add a link when I get back to my computer
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Would the nexus s get the update before its released on another phone?
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If they don't update us before or at the same time the phone releases, this will be my last android device.
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If they don't update us before or at the same time the phone releases, this will be my last android device.
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it doesn't work that way you see...
we on SNS got 2.3 before any body else
including the old HTC N1 which are still stuck on 2.2 officially
unofficial ROM cooks of course released 2.3
so chances are we'll see the same with 2.4 or 3.0
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Would the nexus s get the update before its released on another phone?
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I've seen two(2) videos showing 2.4 in the NS.
One of them showed 2.4 build GRI06B.
I'm not sweating...
Look in the I9023 thread.
Worst case: more fragmentation with I9020 2.3 and I9023 with 2.4...both being NS. haha
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it doesn't work that way you see...
we on SNS got 2.3 before any body else
including the old HTC N1 which are still stuck on 2.2 officially
unofficial ROM cooks of course released 2.3
so chances are we'll see the same with 2.4 or 3.0
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Well, the way they're treating N1 owners right now is rubbing me the wrong way, but I'm willing to give them benefit of the doubt. In fact, they could be just waiting till 2.4 is ready to give it to both Nexus 1 and Nexus S. We buy the Nexus phones partly because we are supposed to be given updates on a first priority basis. If Google decides to hold back 2.4 from us for another phone, they will have lost an Android supporter in me.
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uhhhhhhh... interesting to see ViewSonic coming to the battleground
they used to be famous for their Displays and Monitors... i wonder if they plan to release their own screens to fight against Samsung & Sony
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They already have an Android Device the "g Tablet". Although from what I have read the reviews say the screen sucks (poor viewing angle), surprises me since that is what they do. On another note the g Tablet has Android 2.2 and nVidia Tegra 2
...viewsonic.com/gtablet/
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Well, the way they're treating N1 owners right now is rubbing me the wrong way, but I'm willing to give them benefit of the doubt. In fact, they could be just waiting till 2.4 is ready to give it to both Nexus 1 and Nexus S. We buy the Nexus phones partly because we are supposed to be given updates on a first priority basis. If Google decides to hold back 2.4 from us for another phone, they will have lost an Android supporter in me.
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I'd bet my meager reputation that we get it before.
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I'd be shocked if we didn't get the 2.4 update, at the time of its launch. Especially since 2.4 doesn't seem to be Ice Cream, but rather a touch of Honey glazed over Gingerbread.
While I am kind of new to Android (and smart phones in general), I cannot see Google keeping this update from us NS users. Although, I am a little surprised that the N1 hasn't seen Gingerbread yet (OTA from Google that is).
Just curious, how many updates did the N1 get from the time of its launch, and what Android version did it start with (Eclair or Froyo?).
I'm really surprised the N1 hasn't seen GB officially yet. I would be curious to see 2.4
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I'd be shocked if we didn't get the 2.4 update, at the time of its launch. Especially since 2.4 doesn't seem to be Ice Cream, but rather a touch of Honey glazed over Gingerbread.
While I am kind of new to Android (and smart phones in general), I cannot see Google keeping this update from us NS users. Although, I am a little surprised that the N1 hasn't seen Gingerbread yet (OTA from Google that is).
Just curious, how many updates did the N1 get from the time of its launch, and what Android version did it start with (Eclair or Froyo?).
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N1 came with eclair and then got froyo 2 months later I believe.
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Not liking the Viewsonic design. I thought it was an external HDD.
I hope that the Nexus S gets its update, well if not at the same time as the release of the Viewsonic phone, at least a week or two after.
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I'd be shocked if we didn't get the 2.4 update, at the time of its launch. Especially since 2.4 doesn't seem to be Ice Cream, but rather a touch of Honey glazed over Gingerbread.
While I am kind of new to Android (and smart phones in general), I cannot see Google keeping this update from us NS users. Although, I am a little surprised that the N1 hasn't seen Gingerbread yet (OTA from Google that is).
Just curious, how many updates did the N1 get from the time of its launch, and what Android version did it start with (Eclair or Froyo?).
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the phone started with Eclair and it was approximately 6 months until OTA Froyo.
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N1 came with eclair and then got froyo 2 months later I believe.
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More like 6 months later for the official OTA.
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More like 6 months later for the official OTA.
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When did the first phone with Froyo launch? Or was N1 the 1st to get it?
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Not liking the Viewsonic design. I thought it was an external HDD.
I hope that the Nexus S gets its update, well if not at the same time as the release of the Viewsonic phone, at least a week or two after.
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that's exactly what i though as well when i first saw the picture. LOL
Well, even though Samsung and Google have delayed their event, Ice Cream Sandwich is around the corner and the funny thing is that still nothing has been confirmed of its features.
Looking forward to it on your Desire Z?
It'll be nice, but I'm sure not much of a change for day to day use for me. I'm more excited about getting it on my Nook Color.
You should put desire z and g2. But I just want it to be released already. Have you seen the new ics video on the supposed nexus prime?
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98% sure it won't be released for our phones.
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98% sure it won't be released for our phones.
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Definitely won't be released officially, but that's why we have CyanogenMod and other CM-derived ROMs
I still hope they think of us Desire owners.....
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Isn't there an update supposed to be coming for the DZ? Maybe we'll get the ICS with Sense 3.5...
I think they will . But have you guys downloaded the new ics music app just search for it on the forums. Looks similar to the honeycomb one just a few tweeks here and there
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98% sure it won't be released for our phones.
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I smell Darwin Award....
We all know it wont be released for our phones.
I bought a Viewsonic gTablet and this was the same talk going on - No Honeycomb. Mods started to ban people whining about when HC would be ported to the gTab. I gave up hope and literally a month later, there was an alpha ROM and now there are 3-4 good HC ROMs out there. And I think Google didn't release the source code for it. So, I am sure we will get IS on our Zs!
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98% sure it won't be released for our phones.
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Well obviously... But most people on XDA aren't waiting for official OTA updates lol. Go go CM8!!
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I bought a Viewsonic gTablet and this was the same talk going on - No Honeycomb. Mods started to ban people whining about when HC would be ported to the gTab. I gave up hope and literally a month later, there was an alpha ROM and now there are 3-4 good HC ROMs out there. And I think Google didn't release the source code for it. So, I am sure we will get IS on our Zs!
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Well the issue there was no source code and probably a smaller community. It will be much easier when ICS source drops lol.
Im more excited about all the cool roms the devs are going to make based off ICS!
im sure cyanogenmod 8 will be he BOMB!
According to Koush on G+ it will be CM9. Makes sense because Honeycomb wasn't open source
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According to Koush on G+ it will be CM9. Makes sense because Honeycomb wasn't open source
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Makes sense I guess, but I would think since CM8 never existed they'd just do CM8 for ICS.
Yea that would be awesome regardless of the naming scheme. I have yet to flash CM7 but for ICS I would do it in a heartbeat lol.
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According to Koush on G+ it will be CM9. Makes sense because Honeycomb wasn't open source
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Actually doesnt make sense but let the CM team do what they want....
In related news to CM, CM 7.1 final was released today
I would like to point out that there is absolutely no evidence to suggest that there will not be a 4.0 upgrade available for HTC VISION. Need I remind you all that there was an official upgrade to Android 2.2 for HTC SAPPHIRE/MAGIC32B made almost exactly ONE YEAR AGO? Yes, approximately the exact same time that HTC VISION was initially made available.
Also remember that the 32B was a 192 MB RAM device where only 97 MB was actually available to Linux. This significant upgrade from Android 1.6 to 2.2 required some MEMORY REDISTRIBUTION via new SPL to increase the available RAM to 112 MB. HTC VISION is not starved for RAM as the 32B was. HTC VISION has plenty of space left within the system partition (in fact on mine, there are 262 MB of free space on /system of over 400 total -- clearly intended to leave space for upgrades). Unlike the 32B, the specifications of Vision are far more than adequate, and even with a device as limited as 32B, they made the upgrade.
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Actually doesnt make sense but let the CM team do what they want....
In related news to CM, CM 7.1 final was released today
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CM "team", as well as all the other rom cookers out there (yes, they are cookers, Android is written by Google, CM just cooks it and adds in a few goodies.) do a TERRIBLE job of versioning.
I once suggested a much more sensible approach to versioning, which is used by many other downstream open source projects... but they threw a tantrum.
Versioning of Android ROMs should be as follows;
UPSTREAMNAME-UPSTREAMVERSION-DOWNSTREAMREVISION.DOWNSTREAMNAMEVERSION.ARCHITECTURE
Obviously ARCHITECTURE doesn't apply directly, but this could be replaced with DEVICE.
So.... CM7.1 for VISION should be versioned as
android-2.3.7-0.CM7.1.vision
With this, if they make a minor update (that they would normally call CM7.1.1), it would increment the DOWNSTREAMREVISION, so the new version would be android-2.3.7-1.CM7.1.vision.
I.e., the point here would be to keep the priority on the upstream version rather than downstream, because "android-2.3.7" is FAR more important than "CM7.1". Quite frankly, the "CM" version means ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
Haven't heard anything amazing about ICS so far wish I had though. Any solid awesome rumors about improvements or features?
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Haven't heard anything amazing about ICS so far wish I had though. Any solid awesome rumors about improvements or features?
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Not really.
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I would like to point out that there is absolutely no evidence to suggest that there will not be a 4.0 upgrade available for HTC VISION. Need I remind you all that there was an official upgrade to Android 2.2 for HTC SAPPHIRE/MAGIC32B made almost exactly ONE YEAR AGO? Yes, approximately the exact same time that HTC VISION was initially made available.
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That was a long time ago. Now, forget it. They already gave up one update. They wont give us another.
Besides HTC is problably planning a new version of Sense for Ice Cream Sandwich.
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Haven't heard anything amazing about ICS so far wish I had though. Any solid awesome rumors about improvements or features?
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Nothing. There is nothing confirmed for Ice Cream Sandwich at all. Google has had it tightly wrapped up.
The only thing we do know that it is Android 4.0
Besides that:
Facial recognition features, new APIs to reduce development fragmentation, a unification of phone and tablet UIs and its APIs.
Nothing else is confirmed with sources beside it.
This is inevitable. In a week's time, Google is going to release a new version of Android to compete with iOS 6. The million dollar question is: will the old and already underpowered back when it was launched Nexus S get an OFFICIAL update to Jelly Bean? I seriously doubt it. But there is hope. If it is a speed booster rather than a entirely new design and power hungry features, I think the Nexus S might get lucky. What do you guys think? Fingers crossed.
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Billchen0014 said:
This is inevitable. In a week's time, Google is going to release a new version of Android to compete with iOS 6. The million dollar question is: will the old and already underpowered back when it was launched Nexus S get an OFFICIAL update to Jelly Bean? I seriously doubt it. But there is hope. If it is a speed booster rather than a entirely new design and power hungry features, I think the Nexus S might get lucky. What do you guys think? Fingers crossed.
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new os means a new nexus phone, so i doubt a new os is coming .. just a minor update if anything
Performance issues? I doubt it. Features don't necessarily mean slower though, better with ICSs built in data limiter/tracker than a 3rd party app for example. Depends on what they add though, of course.
Small chance we'll get it though. I'm leaning towards a fat no if it's released beyond August or so, before that and we may have a chance. Either way, we'll have rock solid ports within weeks, just like ICS. It amazed me how stable initial ports of ICS were before it was released officially, it was my daily driver (i believe i used eugenes). I have (blind?) faith in the same thing when JB is released.
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Performance issues? I doubt it. Features don't necessarily mean slower though, better with ICSs built in data limiter/tracker than a 3rd party app for example. Depends on what they add though, of course.
Small chance we'll get it though. I'm leaning towards a fat no if it's released beyond August or so, before that and we may have a chance. Either way, we'll have rock solid ports within weeks, just like ICS. It amazed me how stable initial ports of ICS were before it was released officially, it was my daily driver (i believe i used eugenes). I have (blind?) faith in the same thing when JB is released.
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I am 100% confident that there will be minimum visual changes. The dev team spend so much effort into making a guideline for Android app designs, they are most certainly not gonna ditch that. So that leaves us with one other major change Google can bring to the platform: speed improvements. Both app speeds and overall smoothness. If you check Google io app and the schedules in there, one of them is all about app smoothness and maintaining a constant frame rate. I am hoping that third party apps will be as smooth as the iOS counter parts within a few releases. But back to what this thread is about: I think NS is highly likely to get this update, since it runs ICS okay, but not as fast as some desired, (multi-tasking). So this update should be like froyo, not much visual, lots of under the hood changes, if NS can run ics, it can run jb.
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I think it depends on how big the step in version-numbers will be. 4.1 - we'll get it. 5.0 - nope.
Jelly Bean has always been rumored to be 5.0, but latest news have it to be 4.1. (Benchmark logs of an upcoming android tablet)
Remember the nexus one - it started with 2.1 and went all the way to an official 2.3.6.
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I think it depends on how big the step in version-numbers will be. 4.1 - we'll get it. 5.0 - nope.
Jelly Bean has always been rumored to be 5.0, but latest news have it to be 4.1. (Benchmark logs of an upcoming android tablet)
Remember the nexus one - it started with 2.1 and went all the way to an official 2.3.6.
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Think about it: it might be a new interface/design for a tablet, Android really need something solid if they want any chance of fighting iOS and windows RT.
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I am 100% confident that there will be minimum visual changes. The dev team spend so much effort into making a guideline for Android app designs, they are most certainly not gonna ditch that. So that leaves us with one other major change Google can bring to the platform: speed improvements. Both app speeds and overall smoothness. If you check Google io app and the schedules in there, one of them is all about app smoothness and maintaining a constant frame rate. I am hoping that third party apps will be as smooth as the iOS counter parts within a few releases. But back to what this thread is about: I think NS is highly likely to get this update, since it runs ICS okay, but not as fast as some desired, (multi-tasking). So this update should be like froyo, not much visual, lots of under the hood changes, if NS can run ics, it can run jb.
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Considering that it seems like RAM usage is going relatively well within ICS, i can't see any worry about that there. 1GB would've helped in any situation, not just moving toward JB which likely wouldn't make a difference. That's the main thing that could have held the NS back. I'm with you unless IO implies anything otherwise. I'm thinking alot more will have to do with dual and quad core setups than our NSs single, particularly with the idea of constant framerates in mind. I see how there isn't that much left to do in the same environment and considering how much effort was put into ICS little will change that's not well below what we see happening, and most of that relates directly to performance and basically making the UI smoother, prettier and maybe a touch more colourful.
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This is inevitable. In a week's time, Google is going to release a new version of Android to compete with iOS 6. The million dollar question is: will the old and already underpowered back when it was launched Nexus S get an OFFICIAL update to Jelly Bean? I seriously doubt it. But there is hope. If it is a speed booster rather than a entirely new design and power hungry features, I think the Nexus S might get lucky. What do you guys think? Fingers crossed.
oops! accidentally beamed from my awesome NEXUS S!
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I think that if it's more bloated and non-optimized, even less handsets could possibly get it then ICS. So I'm more positive NS will get it
Seeing as ICS was meant to be a unification of tablet/smartphone OS, I don't think they would release another tablet exclusive OS to tear that unity apart again. Also, if we're learning from the past here, the Nexus One got two updates before losing support so Jelly Bean should be the final update for the Nexus S.
Also, since ICS was a major interface revamp, I think Jelly Bean's gonna be focusing on other parts so really, Nexus S does not have any reason not to be able to support it. We'll see though
Have you seen this?
http://phandroid.com/2012/06/20/did-we-just-get-a-sneak-peak-at-jelly-bean-in-google-io-screenshot/#
Seems that the new version will be like froyo / GB transition, more improvement, better visuals. Maybe our devices will get the update.
Yea I'd be happy with a few extra features like magel but the main thing for me is probably just speed and making things look a little nicer ..
I hope they call it 4.1 if it's a smallish update though otherwise will have the same issues iOS six had in that really is like 5.5
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http://www.droid-life.com/2012/06/2...in-play-store-outs-jelly-bean-as-android-4-1/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1724180
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0WGO6eQd24&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Looks like we won't be getting it.......
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What makes you say that?
sdhanjal15 said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0WGO6eQd24&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Looks like we won't be getting it.......
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True...
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This video has absolutely nothing to do with the Nexus S, so what makes you say we won't be getting it?! Galaxy Nexus has also been the first to get 4.0, so what?
caliban2 said:
I think it depends on how big the step in version-numbers will be. 4.1 - we'll get it. 5.0 - nope.
Jelly Bean has always been rumored to be 5.0, but latest news have it to be 4.1. (Benchmark logs of an upcoming android tablet)
Remember the nexus one - it started with 2.1 and went all the way to an official 2.3.6.
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"all the way" is stretching it though. We got from 2.3.6 to 4.0.4. Much better than the Nexus One in that respect.
Nothing has been set in stone. We won't know until Google says something. I posted those 2 links to show that JB looks to be a minor upgrade from 4.0.4>4.1. I think if this is the case, there's a chance we'd get it. Remember the N1 went from 2.1>2.2>2.3. 4.0 was a major change, which was the need for the first number in the version to change. Just my .02
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Nothing has been set in stone. We won't know until Google says something. I posted those 2 links to show that JB looks to be a minor upgrade from 4.0.4>4.1. I think if this is the case, there's a chance we'd get it. Remember the N1 went from 2.1>2.2>2.3. 4.0 was a major change, which was the need for the first number in the version to change. Just my .02
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Agree with you here. Minor updates are usually pushed, major ones aren't necessarily. I think the only reason the Nexus S got ICS is that there would have been an outcry if we didn't. Seriously, a Google phone with absolutely no upgrade? That would have been ridiculous.
Google is releasing the SDK out to developers today for JellyBean. That is good news for the Dev Community.
I'm nervous about the new graphics and rendering system upgrades.
This may affect our portability with certain closed source drivers.
I'm having second thoughts about this phone. If I want to go through the slow upgrades again. GS2 doesn't have official ICS yet and JB is out.
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GS2 doesn't have official ICS yet and JB is out.
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Yes it does, it got its official release a few weeks ago
I think he means for sprint. We still don't have an official update on sprint.
I am nervous and freaking out about JB since we don't have it yet (so what if it hasn't rolled out yet).
Knowing Samsung it will be like 12 years before it ever comes out and worse than that Sprint will still be charging us $10 a month for premium data even after they roll out LTE.
I'm freaking out over this"
(kidding)
cbond007 said:
Google is releasing the SDK out to developers today for JellyBean. That is good news for the Dev Community.
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Here is a Android 4.1 Jelly Bean SDK Image System Dump
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1736529
EDIT: and 4.1is available thru SDK manager for download
If tmobile does officially release Jellybean don't expect for it to show up soon. it took 7 months!!!! for ICS to be rolled out on the GS2.
And just as soon as I get a phone with ICS, its not obsolete. Awesome... maybe JB will hit the SGS3 by next summer.
Well lets just hope that the Devs will be able to make some magic happen for our devices using the new "Project Butter" they are implementing in JB.
Idk I'm reconsidering maybe returning and waiting for the next nexus. Google will roll out with the update in mid July and the gnex will receive it via OTA. It just sucks how carriers take such a long time to make sure their bloat works. At&t and Tmobile just barely had ICS roll out on GS2 and I don't think sprint has even been upgraded officially yet.
cbond007 said:
Well lets just hope that the Devs will be able to make some magic happen for our devices using the new "Project Butter" they are implementing in JB.
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This is what i was excited about..!
Where's my Jelly Bean!?!
MadFlava said:
And just as soon as I get a phone with ICS, its not obsolete. Awesome... maybe JB will hit the SGS3 by next summer.
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Obsolete because it doesn't have JB? ha ha! I knew this was coming.
I almost started a "I'm pissed I don't have JB" thread when I read about it last night......ROFL!
(I'm not mocking you MadFlava specifically)....no disrespect intended. I just think it's funny. Seems like this happens with each release and every phone I've had.
Debating wether to port it or not :|
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Did anyone took a note of the PDK(platform development kit) for device manufacturers? It is supped to speed up os upgraded by oems. Hoping it will improve the fragmentation situation.
C_LosEvo said:
Idk I'm reconsidering maybe returning and waiting for the next nexus. Google will roll out with the update in mid July and the gnex will receive it via OTA. It just sucks how carriers take such a long time to make sure their bloat works. At&t and Tmobile just barely had ICS roll out on GS2 and I don't think sprint has even been upgraded officially yet.
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There is no new phone that Google is revealing. Jellybean will only be on the nexus s, galaxy nexus and nexus 7 tablet. I have high hopes that developers will be able to get a working CM version of jellybean on this sgs3
It's almost certain that their will be custom roms of the latest Android OS long before CDMA Nexus' get it. Not to mention the new Nexus will have underwhelming specs. I say hold on to your S3.
Looking forward to a CyanogenMod 9.1 (or would that be 10?)
Considering how new this phone is and the inevitable huge developer support once everyone gets their phones I'm not too worried about not having this for long.
Besides... I am perfectly happy with ICS. I haven't found a need or an issue that would make me irritated by not having something in JB. That's technology and software for you. There is always something right around the corner that is better.
Be happy with what you have, always seeking the newest greatest thing will drive you crazy and/or broke.
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There is no new phone that Google is revealing. Jellybean will only be on the nexus s, galaxy nexus and nexus 7 tablet. I have high hopes that developers will be able to get a working CM version of jellybean jellybean this sgs3
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Yeah i know their is no new phone. I was meant as just holding out till a new nexus rolls out maybe in Nov. Don't get me wrong the GS3 is a beast device! and i am confident our devs will port jellybean way before.
Jeffbucc said:
Considering how new this phone is and the inevitable huge developer support once everyone gets their phones I'm not too worried about not having this for long.
Besides... I am perfectly happy with ICS. I haven't found a need or an issue that would make me irritated by not having something in JB. That's technology and software for you. There is always something right around the corner that is better.
Be happy with what you have, always seeking the newest greatest thing will drive you crazy and/or broke.
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So very true
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Guys in live you can see the Google I/O conference,
http://www.youtube.com/user/googledevelopers?feature=results_main
Say what do you think about that !!
Good luck for Texasice, DK-Zero-Cool to bring to us the best experience for Our beloved Nexus even after 2 years of good and loyal service
Like we are ever going to get jelly bean... We don't even have a functional bug free ics after almost a year.
We have 90% ICS. Only Camera video recording is outstanding. Same on many other ROMS for other handsets I presume.
BTW, will ICS ever be 100% on Nexus One? What do you think? ICS camera dev seems to be dead
Perhaps if we get 3 years out of owning the N1 we can hold our heads high and be proud enough to move on!
Here's to 5 new Nexus on Nov 5th, and then cheaper Nexus in 6 months after that - so roll on May 2013 I say!
cpm said:
Perhaps if we get 3 years out of owning the N1 we can hold our heads high and be proud enough to move on!
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^^ This..
I am waiting for the next Nexus device. Im hopping it will have a 5 Inch screen..
same here waiting for the next nexus device and praying it will not be made by samsung since i never had good times with there products
fake_japanese_guy said:
^^ This..
I am waiting for the next Nexus device. Im hopping it will have a 5 Inch screen..
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ah i was watching Jelly Bean running on GN and it is just so fluid! i was beginning to feel so dare i say jealous, but you guys have totally given me new hope!
If we can hold out a couple of months for the next Nexus we can be proud YES1 :highfive:
Nexus One is our hero. long standing, trustworthy little guy. :victory:
race55 said:
Like we are ever going to get jelly bean... We don't even have a functional bug free ics after almost a year.
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Try this ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1557606
I have been using for couple of months, I find it functional and stable.
fake_japanese_guy said:
^^ This..
I am waiting for the next Nexus device. Im hopping it will have a 5 Inch screen..
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Hope there will be a 3.7" top notch as well!
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4.3'' is perfect or 4.5
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5.3" please. Bigger IS better
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Buy a tablet
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But that won't fit in my pocket. What I'm planning on is a 5.x phablet and a 10" tablet, both Nexus devices.
Ah well, we can all dream
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As for now, almost half a year, we don't have an ICS stable release and neither we will have it soon, I don't think, in a near future, we will have a JB stable one, although this is just a minor release.
I wish the devs did not agree with me
How do you mean not stable? It's perfectly stable and fast. Only the camcorder does not work very well.
I am going to stay with CM7.2 on my nexus one. It's very stable and efficient. Then when the next device comes out I am going use this as my music player
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How do you mean not stable? It's perfectly stable and fast. Only the camcorder does not work very well.
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For me it is very stable but CM9 & AOKP ROMs didn't reached stable requirements yet because they have bugs that are important to fix and crucial for the rom's workflow. They are considered experimental for now (CM team released this week CM9 RC1).
Jelly Bean looks bad ass, especially with project butter and the new voice command.
It is also the reason I have finally decided to move on from my N1 after 2 and a half years of loyal service. The failing battery, the half-functioning trackball, and constantly battling internal storage woes have forced me to move on.
The good news is there is a Galaxy Nexus with my name on it, heading my way right now.
GldRush98 said:
Jelly Bean looks bad ass, especially with project butter and the new voice command.
It is also the reason I have finally decided to move on from my N1 after 2 and a half years of loyal service. The failing battery, the half-functioning trackball, and constantly battling internal storage woes have forced me to move on.
The good news is there is a Galaxy Nexus with my name on it, heading my way right now.
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Even Google drops the price of galaxy nexus to $300, I will stick with the N1.
I'm really hoping the devs can integrate some of the new things in Jelly Bean to their current ROMs without much extra work. I think it should be possible due to very incremental nature of the update.
That said, I've pretty much accepted that if it is possible, it's highly unlikely they'll be able to integrate the Project Butter stuff from what Google has said about it! Seems it will use massive amounts of system storage and RAM, so that's almost definitely out of our N1's capabilities.
I would be amazed if they managed to get that in there. I still hope they can manage to get Google Now and all the other little tweaks in to a potential JB ROM for the N1.
Indefinite Implosion said:
I'm really hoping the devs can integrate some of the new things in Jelly Bean to their current ROMs without much extra work. I think it should be possible due to very incremental nature of the update.
That said, I've pretty much accepted that if it is possible, it's highly unlikely they'll be able to integrate the Project Butter stuff from what Google has said about it! Seems it will use massive amounts of system storage and RAM, so that's almost definitely out of our N1's capabilities.
I would be amazed if they managed to get that in there. I still hope they can manage to get Google Now and all the other little tweaks in to a potential JB ROM for the N1.
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Especially the New status bar
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