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SGS3 wish-list. samsung reps should read this lol

SGS3 hardware specs that I'm looking forward to:
1- Exynos 5250.
2- Mali-T604 GPU.
3- 1 GB of RAM is enough.
4- HD Super AMOLED Plus.
5- Corning's Lotus Glass and Oleophobic coating. 4.3 inches screen should be enough.
6- On-screen buttons which double as LED notification (same like Galaxy Nexus)
7- 2500 mAh battery or close to Motorola Droid RAZR MAXX (3300 mAh). Please sacrifice the phone's thinness for this, please!
8- 12MP back camera with superb sensor and optics (superior than that of iPhone 4S or Nokia N8) and yes, camera button too. the camera should be able to record 1080p video at 30fps. DON'T YOU DARE FORGET LED FLASH THIS TIME, SAMSUNG!
9- 2MP front facing camera should be enough.
10- elegant UI which doesn't appear too geeky or too childish. i don't mind if Samsung change UI aspects of Ice Cream Sandwich, as long as it's as gorgeous as stock AOSP.
11- Wolfson DAC (like in SGS1) with loud and clear loudspeaker, but without crackling sounds like Nokia's loudspeaker.
12- great call quality (without drop calls, etc) up to 16 hours (like Motorola Droid RAZR MAXX)
13- maintaining plastic build all around but with a very high quality and premium mix to it. (hint: something like Nokia N9, polycarbonate plastic)
14- 32GB of storage with microSD card slot.
15- HDMI port + cable (out of the box)
16- WiFi Direct
17- NFC
18- Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass, barometer sensor.
19- Ultra smooth browser.
20- High quality headset with mic. source: http://www.talkandroid.com/86999-ja...dio-and-bundled-headphones-to-samsung-phones/ (removing the need for Voodoo sound)
21- comes with multiple colours and not just black. i still want to buy the black version. i just don't want others to have the same thing i have. =p
i hope samsung reps read my post then my make my dream come true. i don't mind paying $8xx for a phone that have all this features. *crossing my fingers*

lol nice dreams i wish

Buddy as far as i knw android doesn't support bluetooth 3.0... so why even think mre than 2.0 !!!
Feel free to correct me if i ve got my facts wrng...

I would rather it have the regular plastic look of the S1 ans S2, because a unibody design is only going to raise the price of the phone simply for the sake of aesthetics.

I would rather that they made a phone worked right out of the box and never lied about fixing the problems later( gps anyone? ). Samsung I wish Apple sues your @ss so much that you have to go out of business forever!
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stfudude said:
SGS3 hardware specs that I'm looking forward to:
1- Exynos 5250.
2- Mali-T604 GPU.
3- HD Super AMOLED Plus.
4- Corning's Lotus Glass and Oleophobic coating.
5- 2500 mAh battery or close to Motorola Droid RAZR MAXX (3300 mAh).
6- 12MP back camera with superb sensor and optics (superior than that of iPhone 4S or Nokia N8) and yes, camera button too. the camera should be able to record 1080p video at 30fps. DON'T YOU DARE FORGET LED FLASH THIS TIME, SAMSUNG!
7- 2MP front facing camera capable of 1080p recording at 30fps.
8- elegant UI which doesn't appear too geeky or too childish. i don't mind if Samsung change UI aspects of Ice Cream Sandwich, as long as it's as gorgeous as stock AOSP.
9- better audio than SGS 1 (very loud and clear loudspeaker, but without crackling sounds like Nokia's loudspeaker)
10- great call quality (without drop calls, etc) up to 16 hours.
11- maintaining plastic build all around but with a very high quality and premium mix to it. (hint: something like Nokia N9, polycarbonate plastic)
12- 32GB of storage with microSD card slot.
13- Bluetooth 4.0
14- WiFi Direct
15- NFC
16- Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass, barometer sensor.
17- Ultra smooth browser.
18- comes with multiple colours and not just black. i still want to buy the black version. i just don't want others to have the same thing i have. =p
i hope samsung reps read my post then my make my dream come true. *crossing my fingers*
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I wish my SGS would instantly teleport me to the person I'm calling when he answers so we can talk directly instead.
Probably have the same changes of that happening as the SGS3 having all the things you want
but seriously now, and edgeless display is all I ever wanted in a phone and that's all I still want now. Everything else is just a bonus.

Why would you want Bluetooth 4.0? BT4.0 is the ultra low energy variant of Bluetooth and with that comes ultra low range and ultra low speeds. You might want to look into a feature before deciding it is good based purely on the version number.
Other than that your list looks pretty good, if not a bit optimistic. I would be content with just having the same audio quality as the Galaxy S, if you're referring to the Wolfson DAC I mean.

what memory internal of sgs3 ?
it look beterry more stronger then s2

I want a battery that is light and powerful (no overnight charging!!)
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I wish this list would come true. But then there would be nothing left for them to put in samsung s4. By the way any official release date for the s3 as yet ?
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best of luck. Let us know what u want in sgs 4 too

Wouldn't a 720p front facing camera be enough?

What about the screen size?

So bluetooth 4.0 is not that great? OK so I will exclude it from my wish list.
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Furry Atom said:
Why would you want Bluetooth 4.0? BT4.0 is the ultra low energy variant of Bluetooth and with that comes ultra low range and ultra low speeds. You might want to look into a feature before deciding it is good based purely on the version number.
Other than that your list looks pretty good, if not a bit optimistic. I would be content with just having the same audio quality as the Galaxy S, if you're referring to the Wolfson DAC I mean.
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Yeah wolfson is the sh1t
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What about the screen size?
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4.3" should be enough for me.
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I guess Sammy will do all these and come with 256Mb ram

What about FM transmmiter and HDMI output ?

Actually that list looks pretty reasonable (well may be except for the front facing camera).

They need to do more than just put together a group of decent specs like the SGS II.
Things like UI, battery life, build quality, and so on are what really matter.
If the screen is over 4" I won't be interested either.
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Post your IDEAL SGS3!

Hi guys,
Plz post your dream or expected SGS3 specs along with comment:
USE THIS FORMAT:
Quad-core Processor (2ghz or higher)
2gb ram
4.6 to 4.8 in Screen
5mp Front camera (30 fps)
14mp Back Camera
LTE (can handle ATT & Tmo bands)
Micro-HDMI output (like G2X)
Strap insert in housing (fear dropping phone)
COMMENT:
I would love if this phone with these specs plus, i would want the camera to record videos full 1080Hd without being Zoomed-in but rather I can zoom (man this did kill SGS2 for me), Front camera with high frame rate (iphone4 has a higher fps on front cam than SGS2 :-(
A better battery life, i found iphone4 battery lasted longer then my SGS2. Would love if SGS3 would support both AT&T & Tmobile bands just like the American version of SGS2 (i don't expect to happen)

Quad-core Processor (1.5Ghz, + power saving core, .38nm, built in radios)
High end graphics chip
2gb ram
4.3 - 4.8 in Screen, SAMOLED++, haptic touch panel
3.5mp Front camera (30+ fps)
12mp Back Camera (30+ fps), more focus on shutter speed, exposure, quality, than MP
LTE optional (can handle SKT bands, 800 & 1200)
Micro-HDMI output (like G2X)
Dedicated camera button
Optional touchwiz
Waterproof
2500mAh+ battery
No logo on front
Physical home button
inductive charging
COMMENT:
I can only think of the perfect phone when I'm not trying to!

This would be nice. In other words, stop posting these threads

MistahBungle said:
This would be nice. In other words, stop posting these threads
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Well you know what would be nice....... stop looking at these threads.
This is a community get use to it.
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And you know what else would be nice ? People actually follow the rules around here. And when people don't, clowns like you stop defending them.
That would be Nirvana.
brendonwardmusic said:
Well you know what would be nice....... stop looking at these threads.
This is a community get use to it.
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MistahBungle said:
And you know what else would be nice ? People actually follow the rules around here. And when people don't, clowns like you stop defending them.
That would be Nirvana.
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Yes boss, no boss, right away boss.
Anything else while you have my undivided attention?
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Top specs which I'm sure Samsung will provide but in particular better build quality rather than cheap plastics, good size battery and decent speakers!
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I'll have you know that the cheap plastic Galaxy S and S II have both survived multiple falls and the rigours of day to day use my me without any physical damage where as my HTC Desire with it's better built quality failed on the first drop... Justsayin.

Intratech said:
I'll have you know that the cheap plastic Galaxy S and S II have both survived multiple falls and the rigours of day to day use my me without any physical damage where as my HTC Desire with it's better built quality failed on the first drop... Justsayin.
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This!
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This is the S II Forum not the SIII so posts like these belong in the General Forum
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Galaxy S3 vs Galaxy S2 (In Depth) 35 Improvements

This is a complete list of all the upgrades that have been made to the Galaxy S3 over the S2, Software and Hardware (if i have missed something let me know)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w298fsmeyK0
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Galaxy S3
Hardware
0 Shutter Lag
64GB Microsd exFAT Support
Apt-X Codec Support ( Improved lossless Bluetooth audio)
Active noise cancellation with dedicated mic
Audio Quality Improved (Wolfson DAC )
Backside illuminated sensor (improved camera quality)
Battery life Improved (2100 mAh, almost everything in this phone uses less power)
Barometer sensor
Bluetooth v4.0 with A2DP, EDR
Bigger Screen (Better web browsing, Improved Multimedia experience with a larger screen)
Burst Shots (up to 20 pics)
C Pen support
Eye tracking technology (Smart Stay -no more going to sleep while reading a webpage)
Faster Mali-400 GPU
Front Camera HD video
GLONASS support (more accurate than stand alone GPS)
Gorilla Glass 2
HD screen
in-call sound equaliser (boost the quality of calls)
Internal Storage Improved 64GB
LED indicator
Louder Speakers (2x 2W Speaker)
NFC support (S beam- can transfer files up 300 Mbps)
S Pebble support (this will come in handy for gym junkies)
Quad Core -Exynos 4212 Quad (Benchmarks shows its the fastest Chipset ever and uses less power)
RGB sensor
Slimline back (no more ass sticking out)
Thinner Bezel
Video Quality improved (High Profile recording at 17 Mbps)
Wireless Charging Support
Wi-Fi Improved ( Broadcom BCM4334 )
Software
50GB Dropbox (free on-line storage)
Allshare cast – Allows you to mirror your screen onto a TV or monitor wirelessly -Need a dongle)
Direct call (don't need to press the "call" button any more)
Improved Social Network integration
Improved Voice Commands ( don't need to press any buttons, very use fall when driving, it also easily passes the Wood Chuck test) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61I97JKORDE
Pop up Play (multi task while watching a video)
Smart Alert ( don't need to turn on your phone to see if u have missed calls or msgs, automatically vibrates when you pick it up to let you know)
Simultaneous HD video and image recording
38 Improvements

Awesome list dude

Very nice list..
damn 8 thanks limit per day lol

Ale u sure about gg 2?
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Ale u sure about gg 2?
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Yea mate its got Gorilla Glass 2, its going to be the first phone that has it

cyprusx said:
Yea mate its got Gorilla Glass 2, its going to be the first phone that has it
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The htc one x has it, so it's not the first

sebbo90 said:
The htc one x has it, so it's not the first
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But afaik the OneX glass has a lot of manufacturing issues because it can press the underneath pixels (only some onex have this problem)
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sebbo90 said:
The htc one x has it, so it's not the first
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oh it didn't state it on its spec sheet on GSMarena kinda odd

I hope they put in a good wifi radio, samsung's track record hasn't been too good in the past.
Nexus s
iPad 3rd gen

where is the Thanks button ?
Hello i am new to this forum. but i like to say thanks to the OP my only problem is that i can't find the thanks button please help ?

Channel bonding support for wifi is worth mentioning also.

I'm confused where it states one x has gg2
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alchemist316 said:
I'm confused where it states one x has gg2
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...he-next-generation-of-android-phones/#display
And lots of other review sites

sebbo90 said:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...he-next-generation-of-android-phones/#display
And lots of other review sites
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I never will understand why they do not state it on htcs site itself nor gg site I guess we find out as we get them Samsung was only one I've heard recently state that it will have gg2 HTC kinda gotta look around .
Thanks for the link good to see htc bring great competition
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Is the bezel really thinner? It looks bigger to me on the picture, but it may be due to it not being actual size.

ky0nkyon said:
Is the bezel really thinner? It looks bigger to me on the picture, but it may be due to it not being actual size.
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The sides and the top are thinner also its more curved so its saves of more on the bezel on the corners, those pics are not to scale

This thread is brilliant ... thanks for this mate

I don't think the S3 has S-Pen support. It doesn't have an active digitizer layer

S Pen
S Pen support?
Where did you get this bit of information from???

eitama said:
S Pen support?
Where did you get this bit of information from???
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Lol he made it up.
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10 reasons why the HTC One Could be better!

Hi everyone!
I love HTC, I am an HTC fan!
the HTC One is amazing! the screen is fantastic, Camera is so cool, the sound is Bluffing... BUT
I admit I have 10 huge reasons how to made this phone, THE ULTIMATE PHONE!
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1: Wallpaper scrolling
2: Change widget size
3: Home grid size 4*5 & 5*5 available
4: Power Button
5: Available to turn on screen when we get a notification
6: Slide to unlock (sweep2wake)
7: HTC logo is a menu button
8: Icon on folder (from 2nd page to 1st)
9: Icon on dock bar also on app list and not hidden
10: BlinkFeed with more settings (select our own topics)
Please, leave your comment (agree, not agree, what are your 10 reasons?)
Enjoy.
Flow
Also take a look on my: Top 10 Tips & Tricks for HTC One on XDA

I don't care for any of that just the HTC button and an sd card
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you can change widget's size

some widgets are resizeable, not all...

stesa said:
you can change widget's size
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Yeah but not all. You can't for weather, Calendar 4*1, FM Radio, 7 digital, Play Book, Music Widget,
Neo-ST said:
some widgets are resizeable, not all...
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Yeah

TruthAEE said:
I don't care for any of that just the HTC button and an sd card
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SD card, you don't need, use OTG and add memory:

That's Cyanogenmod.
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eskargoz said:
That's Cyanogenmod.
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Yeah :/ We need it as native it could be so nice 4*4 grid was on my DHD... :/

But you can set your grid to 4x5 in sense 5.
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Otg is nativ as of honeycomb
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My personal 10
1.Better picture quality
2.Better camera recording audio quality
3.Better battery life
4.Smooth video recording in low light
5.The ability to change volume with 3 button headsets. Seems HTC have forced the volume control on headsets to be directed to next/previous track
6.Bigger Home/Back buttons
7.Micro SD slot OR releasing the 64gb version at the same time as the 32gb - Will be null & VOID when a small sd card adapter is released
8.Removable battery (If the battery lasted long enough, I wouldn't even care about it being non-removable
9.Can't think of anything else that is a major issue for me
10.............

Flow-Wolf said:
SD card, you don't need, use OTG and add memory:
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I'm saying thanks it's something I've known about four a while but that won't work in that iteration I need a stupid dongle it'd be better to mod a case and use an sd card adapter
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Galactus said:
My personal 10
1.Better picture quality
2.Better camera recording audio quality
3.Better battery life
4.Smooth video recording in low light
5.The ability to change volume with 3 button headsets. Seems HTC have forced the volume control on headsets to be directed to next/previous track
6.Bigger Home/Back buttons
7.Micro SD slot OR releasing the 64gb version at the same time as the 32gb - Will be null & VOID when a small sd card adapter is released
8.Removable battery (If the battery lasted long enough, I wouldn't even care about it being non-removable
9.Can't think of anything else that is a major issue for me
10.............
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My picture quality is awesome
Battery life :/ Smartphone is now usable for 1 day, 12-15hours. I disconnect all sync and that okay for +24 hours 2300mAh is huge!
Agree with:
Audio Quality, but it's cool, this is a smartphone, not a micro dictaphone
Agree with 3 buttons headsets.
Why bigger hume & back buttons?
Yeah 64Gb for all could be amazing or SD Card yeah
Removable battery also :/ now it's as apple
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I'm saying thanks it's something I've known about four a while but that won't work in that iteration I need a stupid dongle it'd be better to mod a case and use an sd card adapter
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I use it as a storage you see it on the video use Solid Explorer, haven't tested with ES File, which is free.

Flow-Wolf said:
My picture quality is awesome
Battery life :/ Smartphone is now usable for 1 day, 12-15hours. I disconnect all sync and that okay for +24 hours 2300mAh is huge!
Agree with:
Audio Quality, but it's cool, this is a smartphone, not a micro dictaphone
Agree with 3 buttons headsets.
Why bigger hume & back buttons?
Yeah 64Gb for all could be amazing or SD Card yeah
Removable battery also :/ now it's as apple
I use it as a storage you see it on the video use Solid Explorer, haven't tested with ES File, which is free.
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Picture quality isn't as good as I think it should be. I know its not all about megapixels, but I can see grain in a lot of photo's taken the moment I view them on my PC due to the low pixel count. Battery life definitely. My friends S4 definitely lasts a whole lot longer and so does the S3 I'm currently using. Again a lot of what I'm basing my issues on are things that the "competition" have done better. USB OTG support is good, but there aren't any small adapters on the market at the moment. Waiting for that Kickstarter thumb drive to become available
Video audio quality is better on the S4 (I've seen a good 5 youtube videos showing the One with muffled audio in comparison to the S4, iPhone 5, Lumia 920/928). Bigger buttons only because I have to him them dead on target for them to work, but its not a major issue at all to be honest. And again, why HTC chose to have low frame rates when recording video in low light is beyond me. The One has the brightest, but also the choppiest video out of the S4, iPhone 5 and Lumia 920. If these things had been featured/included, the One would have been literally THE ONE

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Picture quality isn't as good as I think it should be. I know its not all about megapixels, but I can see grain in a lot of photo's taken the moment I view them on my PC due to the low pixel count. Battery life definitely. My friends S4 definitely lasts a whole lot longer and so does the S3 I'm currently using. Again a lot of what I'm basing my issues on are things that the "competition" have done better. USB OTG support is good, but there aren't any small adapters on the market at the moment. Waiting for that Kickstarter thumb drive to become available
Video audio quality is better on the S4 (I've seen a good 5 youtube videos showing the One with muffled audio in comparison to the S4, iPhone 5, Lumia 920/928). Bigger buttons only because I have to him them dead on target for them to work, but its not a major issue at all to be honest. And again, why HTC chose to have low frame rates when recording video in low light is beyond me. The One has the brightest, but also the choppiest video out of the S4, iPhone 5 and Lumia 920. If these things had been featured/included, the One would have been literally THE ONE
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I'm not sure where you're viewing your videos, but every audio recording comparison I've seen puts the HTC One way on top of every single phone there is now in account for their using of the dual-membrane mic that Nokia is so pissed about.

ArmedandDangerous said:
I'm not sure where you're viewing your videos, but every audio recording comparison I've seen puts the HTC One way on top of every single phone there is now in account for their using of the dual-membrane mic that Nokia is so pissed about.
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Let me try and find 2 of the ones I saw before I go sleep
Edit: Heres one. The dip when it switches to the one at 1:09 is easily noticeable
And heres the second one, again notice the drop at 0:23. Sounds lower and muffled

Galactus said:
Let me try and find 2 of the ones I saw before I go sleep
Edit: Heres one. The dip when it switches to the one at 1:09 is easily noticeable
And heres the second one, again notice the drop at 0:23. Sounds lower and muffled
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Here's a few that show it better

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Here's a few that show it better
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The first video is a comparison against the Galaxy S3, my video is comparing it against the S4 which is what the HTC ONE is competing against, not a previous model that came out in may 2012. Second video shows the HTC One by itself, and as I've stated before, the One's audio quality is good, but there are better devices out there in that department. The second video clip does not show what it would sound like if recorded from an S4 or a Lumia 928 or an iPhone 5, therefore, one cannot gather that the HTC One has better video audio quality when compared to it's competitors (iPhone 5, S4, Lumia 925/928, Xperia Z). Goodnight

Galactus said:
My personal 10
1.Better picture quality
2.Better camera recording audio quality
3.Better battery life
4.Smooth video recording in low light
5.The ability to change volume with 3 button headsets. Seems HTC have forced the volume control on headsets to be directed to next/previous track
6.Bigger Home/Back buttons
7.Micro SD slot OR releasing the 64gb version at the same time as the 32gb - Will be null & VOID when a small sd card adapter is released
8.Removable battery (If the battery lasted long enough, I wouldn't even care about it being non-removable
9.Can't think of anything else that is a major issue for me
10.............
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I think you need an Sgs 3 or a Note 2. Can't say any of those things are a problem for me. Aside from smooth low light recording, all those things either don't interest me, don't happen, or aren't an issue.
Camera is the best i've seen and used on a phone, and i've used all of note, Battery life lasts me a day or more depending on useage. Audio is great even at concerts, back and home buttons work fine on custom roms, 32GB still leaves me atm with over 12 gig left and i've got everything i'll ever want on my phone.
Video comparisons are fine when you aren't there to watch and listen, but record anything on an SGS4 and a HTC One, and watch them back natively on the phone, and the One will come out on top. For every bad comparison there is a good one.
As for the OP, most if not all of those things are achievable with either a launcher or a rom.
My ten would be, even though I don't need them,
1. Even louder speakers
2. 16mp ultrapixel camera so I can crop etc
3. ..........erm...........
4. Um..............
5. I give up.

You can make htc a button, cyanogen mod does it, also a couple others.
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Best of Sony... is not really great..

First, I'd like to say that I'm not trying to hate on Sony or bash them, just pointing out that what they call "the best of Sony" isn't exactly great or better than the competition, though I really just want to point out about the display and camera. I moved on from the Note 3 to the Z1 (lost my Note 3, wanted a good phone with a good camera for a low price so I got an Xperia Z1), and here's what I've noticed.
Display:
Well, there's no other way to say it: for a flagship phone, the Z1's display isn't that great. Viewing angles are poor, and viewing it at even small angles puts a whitish hue over it that just doesn't look good. It might be good for privacy, but otherwise it's plain to see that they're using an inferior IPS tech than other manufacturers. The Note 3 or the Nexus 5's displays are clearly much better, and so is the one on the HTC One from early 2013. I've heard that the Z1 Compact finally has a great screen among Sony devices, so that's great, but I feel that many Sony fans are clearly ignorant of how much greener the grass in on the other side when it comes to displays.
Camera
To be honest, this is the biggest disappointment I've had with the Z1. I don't know if Sony was focusing purely on lossless zoom when adding the 20MP camera, but when it comes to resolved detail and visible noise, the Note 3's camera was better despite no fancy tech and standard sensor. Sure, it has a 13MP camera while the Z1 takes photos at 8MP after downsampling, but in general its photos are clearer and more detailed. I've tried taking 20MP pics, and they just do not come out as great as one would expect (if they focused on lossless zoom, even that hasn't worked out well in general outdoor photos), and Sony has basically squandered a nice opportunity.
But on the flip side, I love some things about the camera. It's fast to open (mainly thanks to the camera button), it's smooth, and is quick to change modes, which helped a lot on my weekend trip with my family.) I don't like that HDR isn't a dedicated mode and is simply a switch when you select 8MP photos in Manual, but other than that, it's pretty good overall. In fact, the quickness and the shutter button are what make me ignore the fact that in quality I've come down to a noticeably not-so-great-at-capturing-detail camera (the Note 3 took ages to select modes, open the camera app, and open pictures.)
That's something that's true in Sony's software overall: it's beautiful, sleek, and quick and responsive. I do miss some features from the Note 3 (Multi-Window, Smart Stay (extremely useful when you can't be bothered touching the screen to keep it awake), some camera modes, and the better multitasking (my Z1 is abysmal at holding apps in memory, and not because it's just 2GB of RAM.) It feels good to use, and that's a pretty good thing.
But again, the screen and camera have let me down considerably. Again, on the flip side, I love the phone's build (though it's a bit too bulky, but then it is waterproof), and things like the lanyard slot and camera button (conveniences manufacturers have forgotten in their quest to copy and follow Apple since the first iPhone arrived on the market).
So in the end it's clear that "the best of Sony" just isn't the right thing to say when your tech is behind the competition in some things and just isn't as great as owners of flagship devices of the competition have become used to. The pricing is great, though, but I kinda don't think I'd want to save a few bucks next time I want a phone, not unless Sony focuses on making the hardware more complete regarding awesomeness.
Sorry for the rant, and again, I wasn't bashing, overall I like my Z1, just don't love it (yet)!
P.S.: My Galaxy Gear is also now sitting idle, but I guess we can blame Samsung for making its watch incompatible with other devices. It's a useful watch, but not in use anymore. There is a hack to make it work with others, I tried it with the Z1, but most stuff just doesn't work. So I guess I'll buy Sony's smartwatch next. :silly:
P.P.S.: I hope KitKat comes soon. I like that Sony takes time to test its software, but with Samsung and HTC moving pretty quick with KitKat despite having heavy skins, and Samsung has even managed to not introduce any quirky bugs (they disabled third-party accessories, but an update over the weekend reversed that), I really want KitKat to come quick. I want wireless printing support (Samsung had this even before KitKat, one of the few reasons I appreciate Samsung's bloat sometimes, it has some useful features), and it might also solve the issue of lack of RAM on the Z1, even if only a little bit.

This is what you do on Sunday afternoon? We know Z1 is not best like expected.

eclyptos said:
This is what you do on Sunday afternoon? We know Z1 is not best like expected.
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It's Sunday night where I am, and I had to get my thoughts out there after using the Z1's camera extensively the last two days (I bought the phone on Thursday.)

addicted2088 said:
It's Sunday night where I am, and I had to get my thoughts out there after using the Z1's camera extensively the last two days (I bought the phone on Thursday.)
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Saturday Night? You should be in some club! ..ahah...just kidding...I know...I am really disappointed by the camera too....what I can surely said is that the problem of the camera quality is related to the Software, but I don't know if we will get better pictures. Many telling me that the Z1 make amazing pictures but mine is not fake and I still not get clear pictures like it should be. Full of Noise, and with Unlocked Bootloader get even worse.

I understand what you're saying, and you have valid points, but these type of complaints come up with every phone out there.
The HTC One has exactly the same Camera complaint that you do. The UltraPixel was a big disappointment for some. The thing about the Z1's camera is that it CAN be improved. The camera is actually extremely good if you use it in manual, and the pictures that come out are the best I've seen on an Android phone. Superior Auto is a bit of a mess though. That's a software problem, not hardware, so we hope kitKat can fix that.
The display is a valid complaint, but I feel head on it's better than the Note 3. The Z1 has one of the most color accurate screens out there, which I prefer over AMOLED oversaturation. The viewing angles personally for me isn't a problem but yes, it is a negative about this phone.
So in the end it's clear that "the best of Sony" just isn't the right thing to say when your tech is behind the competition in some things and just isn't as great as owners of flagship devices of the competition have become used to
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Well, the Z1 IS the best of Sony...not sure what you're trying to say. I still feel like the Z1 is one of the best phones out there. Although lacking in some parts, the overall package is hard to beat: Snapdragon 800 processor, great battery life, great camera (Yes the camera is still very very good, just not as good as advertised), and best of all premium feeling. There is really no other phone that has all that together in one package right now. The Note 3 is better in some respects but for me feels cheap, and that is a HUGE con for me that overshadows anything else. The Nexus 5 has meh battery life and camera. The HTC One has a meh camera and lower end specs. The Galaxy S4 is no longer talked about when discussing high-end phones.
The point is there's no 'perfect' phone, and I concede that the Z1 does have weaknesses, but so does every other electronic device out there

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First, I'd like to say that I'm not trying to hate on Sony or bash them, just pointing out that what they call "the best of Sony" isn't exactly great or better than the competition
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Uh huh.
My advice to you, since it appears you wrote this to practice the writing career you're hoping to have, is to consider other career options. You're not good at this.

learn to make the picture and you will find Z1 camera is great. all the comparatives with Note 3 and the other smartphones take Z1 on the top of Android world
display is very good. poor viewing angle are not a gap, but I can assume it is subjective.
when I watch photos and videos on Z1 display they are much nicer than on other displays.

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I understand what you're saying, and you have valid points, but these type of complaints come up with every phone out there.
The HTC One has exactly the same Camera complaint that you do. The UltraPixel was a big disappointment for some. The thing about the Z1's camera is that it CAN be improved. The camera is actually extremely good if you use it in manual, and the pictures that come out are the best I've seen on an Android phone. Superior Auto is a bit of a mess though. That's a software problem, not hardware, so we hope kitKat can fix that.
The display is a valid complaint, but I feel head on it's better than the Note 3. The Z1 has one of the most color accurate screens out there, which I prefer over AMOLED oversaturation. The viewing angles personally for me isn't a problem but yes, it is a negative about this phone.
Well, the Z1 IS the best of Sony...not sure what you're trying to say. I still feel like the Z1 is one of the best phones out there. Although lacking in some parts, the overall package is hard to beat: Snapdragon 800 processor, great battery life, great camera (Yes the camera is still very very good, just not as good as advertised), and best of all premium feeling. There is really no other phone that has all that together in one package right now. The Note 3 is better in some respects but for me feels cheap, and that is a HUGE con for me that overshadows anything else. The Nexus 5 has meh battery life and camera. The HTC One has a meh camera and lower end specs. The Galaxy S4 is no longer talked about when discussing high-end phones.
The point is there's no 'perfect' phone, and I concede that the Z1 does have weaknesses, but so does every other electronic device out there
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Not so sure about that ...
HTC has the best software updates ATM and fastest after Google.
It has the best low light camera + best smart flash with the 5 modes
Average daylight shots
best front cam with wide angle
The best mics hdr mics
The best speakers
The best headphones sound
It's the most quality phone
It has the best screen in overall
It has unmatched feel in the hand
Ir blaster
Ois
60 fps video + zoe + really working hdr video
BlinkFeed which is still unmatched with copies
Decent battery life
Great xda development
Most of these things aren't yet matched by the competition which is shame imo since htc one is 1 year old and it's still considered the best overall package phone even in 2014 and I doubt anything but HTC one 2 will surpass it which is only a month or two away.

A lot on that list are gimmicks and a few items there are disputable. If HTC were as ahead of everyone as you make them appear to be, then that's extremely incongruent to the terrible shape the company is in.

Another "OMG Sony why did you do this to me" thread.
Sony rules!!

Shan89 said:
Not so sure about that ...
HTC has the best software updates ATM and fastest after Google.
It has the best low light camera + best smart flash with the 5 modes
Average daylight shots
best front cam with wide angle
The best mics hdr mics
The best speakers
The best headphones sound
It's the most quality phone
It has the best screen in overall
It has unmatched feel in the hand
Ir blaster
Ois
60 fps video + zoe + really working hdr video
BlinkFeed which is still unmatched with copies
Decent battery life
Great xda development
Most of these things aren't yet matched by the competition which is shame imo since htc one is 1 year old and it's still considered the best overall package phone even in 2014 and I doubt anything but HTC one 2 will surpass it which is only a month or two away.
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I don't want to get in a fight about whose phone is better, but everyone's got different preferences in a phone. A lot of the points you mentioned are opinions, and really can't be said in a comparison.
The most 'quality' phone and 'ummatched feel' is extremely subjective.
The Z1 is no less in quality than the HTC One and has as premium materials.
The Moto X and Z1 compact both have better feel, just because they're smaller.
Z1's battery life has been much better for me than HTC One in my experience.
Headphone sound is exactly the same for me. Beats is a gimmick and just a equalizer preset which I can also set on my Z1.
I will admit the HTC One's speakers is miles ahead of the Z1's and the display is better.
Camera as well is a lot better in the Z1 in daylight, but I remember you're the guy who wrote that HTC One vs Z1 camera test and I don't want to get in a fight again about that, so I won't go there. HTC One's better in low light, but the Z1 isn't that bad either.
The Z1's camera has a ton more features as well that are pretty cool to play around with. Gimmicks? Sure, but they're still fun. Also the Z1's viewfinder is much smoother.
All front facing cameras suck equally and don't believe there's a 'best' front facing camera.
edit: Oh, also concerning updates: This is the first time HTC have actually done well with updates. We'll see a year from now how they treat HTC One users. One X and One X+ users are stuck with official 4.2 while the Xperia T, which came out around the same time+, just got updated to 4.3. Sony might be slower at giving updates but they support their phones longer.
See, I just refuted half of your points. Of course you will disagree with me, but that's what's great about Android: everyone has different preferences and different opinions on what's the best. The HTC One is a fantastic phone and is my number 2 after the Z1, but it's still not the best for me. Nothing wrong with that.

omnius1 said:
A lot on that list are gimmicks and a few items there are disputable. If HTC were as ahead of everyone as you make them appear to be, then that's extremely incongruent to the terrible shape the company is in.
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What exactly is gimmic ?
Ir blaster is very useful
Ois is very helpful in low light / movement or any other type of using the camera / 60 fps video is smooth as camera app on z1 and looks like you're looking thru the glass when watching an video / hdr video is awesome as well at low light , so is the zoe especially if you wanna take out some snaps after which are full sized , I forgot slow motion video as well which is fun tho.
Smart flash is very useful indeed and can take photos from 5cm in pitch black up to 10 meters , with the walls it can go even further
Stereo frontal speakers ...how is this a gimmic lol , anything you do on a phone sounds crazy good + loud + it hits you in the face.
Full metal body is always a good thing , it screams premium ...
Feel in the hand indeed is unmatched due metal + device shape
hdr mics pick up the sound you wouldn't believe that the phone is doing it.
I've forgot also talking via phone is unmatched as well , you get stereo sound + you can talk in super loud environment perfectly fine.
Headphones sound wouldn't be a gimmic as well lol ... Ppl just use that ...on daily bases ..
Software updates is definitely not an gimmic we all want fast and working updates ASAP ,which is not the case with the Sony , it's far from it.
Xda development for me personally is very important since I love to flash + the fact HTC one has about 9/10 times more development it's a must have for me.
The only gimmicky thing would be if you don't like the the BlinkFeed that'd be all which can be turned off.
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We have to open a thread " @@Shan89 VS @kantk20111 " ..hahah..
Ladies and Gentlemen may I present, Shan89 from HTC Section VS kantk20111 from Sony section, Round 2.
FIGHT!
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lol
I had Xperia z1 , camera sucked , phone was too hot and screen is utter **** , so I changed to HTC one for the same stuff you wrote here!

Honestly I am huge fan of HTC but actually I do not brought HTC One, which was cheaper, just because there is no micro SD Slot, and when Apps to SD will be available on Z1, or even Apk on internal and Data on SD on Custom Roms, I will not have regrets to have Z1.

eclyptos said:
We have to open a thread " @@Shan89 VS @kantk20111 " ..hahah..
Ladies and Gentlemen may I present, Shan89 from HTC Section VS kantk20111 from Sony section, Round 2.
FIGHT!
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Nah mate it ain't fight Lol. I was just pointing that there are devices which are quite more complete. Of course I can't think of anything else besides z1 that comes equal to m7 pretty much all devices lack design and quality which both z1 and htc have.
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We have to open a thread " [MENTION=3721363 [user=4914682]@Shan89[/user][/MENTION] VS @kantk20111 " ..hahah..
Ladies and Gentlemen may I present, Shan89 from HTC Section VS kantk20111 from Sony section, Round 2.
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No more fighting lol, just 2 guys who really love their phones alot . For me the HTC One and Z1 will always be the top of Android, with Samsung, LG and the rest way below. Sony and HTC have style along with awesome hardware.
edit: @Shan89 beat me to it

Came from the GSIII and this phone blows it out of the water, so I'm happy.
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I came from htc one to z1 for reasons like low battery camera quality purple tint issue and worst of all its easily breakable body which produced dents on a simple fall
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Shan89 said:
HTC has the best software updates "ATM" and fastest after Google.
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Coming from a T-Mobile HTC One S and being left hangin' with no further updates from 4.1 Jellbean...I jumped off their bandwagon and upgraded to the Sony Xperia Z1S.
I'm glad that HTC is finally wiling to support their top tier products, but a bit too late for me...HTC lost in my book.
The clear winner (for me) is Sony! :good: