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First the brightness issue,
Now that I actually tried to use it for a extended period, I'm finding my palm always hits the edge and moves the scrollbars
I had a tablet pc many years ago that provides a much better note taking experience
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Mine is awesome.
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dtziheucdavis said:
I'm finding my palm always hits the edge and moves the scrollbars
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Poor Samsung. First, everyone *****ed about the panning box they used to allow you to move through a note you're working on. Then, they changed it and replaced it with a scroll bar and people are *****ing about that too. I don't know which version of S-Note you're on but in the version included in JB with "only recognize the S-Pen" enabled it's really really hard to inadvertantly hit the scroll bars so maybe that'll solve your problem. As for the brightness being ramped up in S-Note I get the logic and it shows how much they think about how people use their devices and apps. If you think about, since the Note's a drawing device, people could be using it at any angle and in any position. Disabling auto-brightness kind of makes sense so that the screen doesn't fade in and out if someone's hand is over the ambient light sensor. Oh well, you can't please all the people all the time.
"version included in JB"
Jelly Bean? I thought the US Note 10.1 were still in ICS
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Jelly Bean? I thought the US Note 10.1 were still in ICS
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Doesn't mean that you can't flash another rom...
I don't use autobrightness so it changing the levels drives me absolutely nuts. E.g. I'm working in a dark room so have the level turned down to what suits me best. I open snoteb and up it goes. I turn it back down manually, jump to another app for a moment for whatever reason, say to read some info in a pdf, switch back to snote and, bam, blinded again.
There's a reason why autobrightness can be toggled on and off, and one app ignoring that convention is infuriating.
actually if you use autobrightness, the brightness levels still change
"Disabling auto-brightness kind of makes sense so that the screen doesn't fade in and out if someone's hand is over the ambient light sensor. Oh well, you can't please all the people all the time."
If this is the case, then there are definitely better solutions than the one Samsung implemented. For example, putting a timer on the ambient light sensor so it doesn't react to accidentally being covered up. If it's only briefly covered up, the brightness won't change. If it's really in a dark room and sensing low light with no interruption for say 1 minute, then change the brightness.
So, it's hard to believe that Samsung would make SNote change the brightness autmoatically as a "feature". Samsung makes great products, but we dont have to idolize them the way that iOS Sheep idolize Apple.
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So, it's hard to believe that Samsung would make SNote change the brightness autmoatically as a "feature".
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OK, since we know it wasn't done accidentally, care to take a more reasoned guess as to why they did it?
Samsung makes great products, but we dont have to idolize them the way that iOS Sheep idolize Apple.
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If you're referring to me I chose the Teg3 One X over the SGS3 and am very happy with my choice. Here's a demonstration of my lack of idolization. In JB, putting the multiview selector to the right of the more important and more often used "settings" selector wasn't very well thought out from a usability perspective.
S-Note turning up the brightness works fine for me and I kind of like it since auto-brightness tends to be on the dim side normally. I'd probably like it less if I frequently took notes in a dark room which I don't. I don't assume everyone uses their device like I do so I certainly wouldn't invoke my opinion of a feature on others.
This is why I use lecture notes.
There is no brightness ISSUE.
They increase brightness on purpose to make drawing more precise.
You can never satisfy everyone....
Can someone share the apk of the first version with no bars?
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Can someone share the apk of the first version with no bars?
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You can't upgrade or downgrade S-Note with just the single APK. There are supporting files that have to be changed along with it. When PDF import was borked on some versions of S-Note folks tried to update it with a newer version of the APK alone and it failed.
Actualy, I did the backup with titaniun but when I tried to restore now I am getting FC. Any idea how can I fix it then?
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legion1911 said:
There is no brightness ISSUE.
They increase brightness on purpose to make drawing more precise.
You can never satisfy everyone....
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Yes they can, they can let us make up our own mind as to what level of brightness we want, the same as we do with every other app. Why bother having a brightness setting at all if that's the case, just get rid of it entirely as they know better.
I just got a new nexus 7 3g yesterday and I can only get the thing to auto rotate if it's positioned pretty much straight up and down. I had the wifi model before and never seen this. It's really annoying. Is this a known issue?
EDIT: Apparently it is, going to return it for a new one.
My N7 doesn't rotate so well either. Sometimes I have to shake it
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Found another thread with lots of people with the same problem. Many of them just returned it for a new one. Guess that is what I'm going to do. Sucks but oh well. =\
I don't think this would be considered a hardware problem. Software controls the limitations of rotation and angles before it considers it "wanting to rotate".
If it wasn't constrained, it would drive you crazy. Download an accelometer tester or play a game like Bike Race and see if the sensor is working accurately. If it is, then it is just normal constraints.
Mine won't rotate unless it is about at a 45 degree angle. Offering up your software version is also a good requirement. Are you on Original software? 4.1? 4.1.2? 4.2?
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I don't think this would be considered a hardware problem. Software controls the limitations of rotation and angles before it considers it "wanting to rotate".
If it wasn't constrained, it would drive you crazy. Download an accelometer tester or play a game like Bike Race and see if the sensor is working accurately. If it is, then it is just normal constraints.
Mine won't rotate unless it is about at a 45 degree angle. Offering up your software version is also a good requirement. Are you on Original software? 4.1? 4.1.2? 4.2?
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It's the same throughout all apps, the homescreen, everything. To rotate it has to be in the perfect position...straight up. Even at like 5 degrees it won't rotate. I've factory reset, rebooted multiple times. I've tried a few games and some accelerator/gryo calibration apps. One of the gryo apps worked for a little bit then I rebooted and it went back to acting up. I've had every android since the original g1 and the wifi n7 and never had this issue. I went from 4.2 to 4.2.1. It's all original no custom roms or anything.
I think that's only good thing that N7 need proper turning before it rotates itself.
Nothing is more annoying than device which rotates even when you don't want it do that.
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Mine won't rotate unless it is about at a 45 degree angle. Offering up your software version is also a good requirement. Are you on Original software? 4.1? 4.1.2? 4.2?
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I'm on 4.2.1
While in one of the sensor test apps it rotated the display around 25 degrees tilt on either x or y axes.
It may depend on the particular app.
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Hi there guys, made a small jump from the HTC One to the Galaxy S4 Snapdragon Model as im in the UK. In short Samsung needs to work on its software, as in real life and not benchmarks the S4 seems to be much slower! Anyway, I just had some questions that I would like to ask
1] Is there any way to make the default keyboard correct spelling mistakes? Im not keen on downloading keyboards and im beggining to get used to this one, however one major change between this and the HTC is that on speed typing my words wont be corrected. Its very annoying as sometimes I have to go back and correct things, and from what I can see it doesnt insert punctuation either. If it doesnt have these features, I would be shocked, as in 2014 having a spell checker seems like the basic fundamentals for a keyboard on a smartphone.
2] What is the magic behind the way I am able to interact with the lockscreen without touching it? Holding my finger a cm away creates a really cool effect. Just wondering what magic hardware enables this, at first I thought a thermal sensor but obviously not.
3] Is it normal for white lines to stutter during scrolling? To replicate this, go to settings and scroll down on any page.
I think thats about it from now. The only thing I miss is smoothness and those dual speakers thanks in advance!
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I had a feature on my S 3 that I have no idea whether it was standard or how it was activated. I have tried the same on my friends Nexus 4 and Galaxy Nexus and it does not work so I thought it was a Samsung add-in. But now it also does not work on the S 4.
On my S 3 if I am viewing an email in the gmail app and I slide my thumb on the right most part of the screen up and down it will zoom in and out instead of scrolling. I don't know how this worked on the S 3 but I was unable to figure how to get it to work on the S 4. I can't remember if it worked in other applications, like browser or exchange email but definitely worked in Gmail.
On my S3 I have to set go to Gmail, Menu Button, SETTING, General Settings, Auto-Fit Messages. Then it works with zooming In/Out. Hope this helps as I am sure it should work the same since it is Gmail and not a Samsung App.
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Exactly you need to enable Auto-Fit messages in Gmail settings.
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Exactly you need to enable Auto-Fit messages in Gmail settings.
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On my S3 I have to set go to Gmail, Menu Button, SETTING, General Settings, Auto-Fit Messages. Then it works with zooming In/Out. Hope this helps as I am sure it should work the same since it is Gmail and not a Samsung App.
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Thanks guys. This is what I was afraid of. Apparently this must be something that only works on the S3. As I mentioned, I have tried it on the Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 4, and now my S4 and even with the Auto-fit message option checked it will not zoom in and out no matter how much I try. Two finger pinch and zoom works fine. I wonder if there is something in the S3 that enables this. Maybe an accessibility feature?
You might have had some custom ROM with a custom Gmail app. I just realized you were asking for side slide to zoom. That's actually a TW feature as far as I know because only Samsung apps offer this.
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You might have had some custom ROM with a custom Gmail app. I just realized you were asking for side slide to zoom. That's actually a TW feature as far as I know because only Samsung apps offer this.
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I don't believe so. I used the method here which is a stock image with root built it. Never did anything else custom to it. I still have the S 3 and it truly works that way. I tried to mimic the settings on the S4 but no luck. If anyone here still has an S3 I'm wondering if they can check. If you slide your finger along the edge of the screen where the scroll bar appears usually, it should zoom in and out.
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I don't believe so. I used the method here which is a stock image with root built it. Never did anything else custom to it. I still have the S 3 and it truly works that way. I tried to mimic the settings on the S4 but no luck. If anyone here still has an S3 I'm wondering if they can check. If you slide your finger along the edge of the screen where the scroll bar appears usually, it should zoom in and out.
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I also still have an S3, but mine does not do this. That's really odd. I remember there being a setting somewhere in Motion I think. I don't really remember I'll have to take a look at it some more today after work.
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I also still have an S3, but mine does not do this. That's really odd. I remember there being a setting somewhere in Motion I think. I don't really remember I'll have to take a look at it some more today after work.
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I will try to make a video of it. I will also try and go through every menu in the S 3. I looked in gesture controls and didn't find anything. Maybe it's an older version of Gmail. Perhaps I should uninstall updates and try?
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On my S3 I have to set go to Gmail, Menu Button, SETTING, General Settings, Auto-Fit Messages. Then it works with zooming In/Out. Hope this helps as I am sure it should work the same since it is Gmail and not a Samsung App.
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I also still have an S3, but mine does not do this. That's really odd. I remember there being a setting somewhere in Motion I think. I don't really remember I'll have to take a look at it some more today after work.
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I will try to make a video of it. I will also try and go through every menu in the S 3. I looked in gesture controls and didn't find anything. Maybe it's an older version of Gmail. Perhaps I should uninstall updates and try?
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Quoted myself above but for me I had to enable the Auto-Fit and then and only then did the slide to zoom work. This is a Stock Gmail from the play store I missed for colors. Not sure how the pics will turn out while I am sliding to zoom in/out but it is working on my SGS3. again maybe it is something removed from Samsung's Android 4.2.2 but in 4.1.1 it works fine.
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"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
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Quoted myself above but for me I had to enable the Auto-Fit and then and only then did the slide to zoom work. This is a Stock Gmail from the play store I missed for colors. Not sure how the pics will turn out while I am sliding to zoom in/out but it is working on my SGS3. again maybe it is something removed from Samsung's Android 4.2.2 but in 4.1.1 it works fine.
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Thank you for confirming this on S3. I completely forgot that I had factory reset my S3 so I couldn't get the video. It would be nice if someone could figure out the trigger for this. Is it something touch wiz adds, is it a functionality in a particular version of gmail, or is it some setting that we are not finding?
It was a Feature o the S3, Note and Tab 10 that Samsung removed
hamzer11 said:
Thank you for confirming this on S3. I completely forgot that I had factory reset my S3 so I couldn't get the video. It would be nice if someone could figure out the trigger for this. Is it something touch wiz adds, is it a functionality in a particular version of gmail, or is it some setting that we are not finding?
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The Edge Slide Zoom feature, as some call it, was actually a feature that Samsung "quietly" put on then took off, partially. (so quietly, I have yet to find a name for it anywhere on Samsung's website, in documentation, and if you contact Samsung Tech Support, either via Chat or at the "Dedicated Galaxy Support Phone Number" you will find they don't even know about it. In fact, I once got into a heated dispute with a "Dedicated Galaxy Support ""TECH"" " because he insisted I had loaded 3rd party software and they could not support me on it. I had to escalate to a supervisor, who confirmed the underling's claim until I firmly asked him to go get a S3 and I'd prove to him it was not 3rd party.)
It was on the S3, Note II, and Note 10.1 Tablet. Sprint removed it from the S3 with the February OTA release of MA6, which I refused until I got so fed up with Sprint, that I switched to AT&T. Much to my chagrin, the AT&T current release still has it. I bought 2 S3s, but got an S4 for myself. Unfortunately the S4 doesn't have it, so I'm hoping someone on here will develop it, like the user below references, except on the S3. Sprint removed it from the Note II in the last update. I don't know about other carriers, and I don't know about the Tablet. I'll be at the AT&T store later this week and will check, and report my findings.
I found it to be so useful myself, it was what pushed me over the edge to renew a 2 Year Phone Cost Subsidy agreement with Sprint, replacing a "Rooted" SII that finally was working, after I got so fed up with Samsung dragging its feet on releasing their last update.
Here are links to others who discuss it, and the only link I've found where Samsung even acknowledges it exists.
CHECK OUT HIS/HER DESCRIPTION:
[MODs][MD4][TW roms][DeOdex] Slide Zoom/ APM/ and APM with Hold Menu to kill App
"Because I love this feature, I port it to every new rom that comes out. It was originally from loserskater. This is slide zoom or edge zoom whichever you prefer, created for Sprint stock touchwiz deodex 4.1.2 MD4 only. It may work for others but i havent tested that at all. Remember to do a backup first."
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2253747&highlight=edge+zoom
Here is the Note reference to it, which is at best obscure, if not about the worst possible description of the feature I could imagine. It would appear the writer never took the time to try it, so to be able to describe it more accurately, something like "Touch then Slide any finger along the edges of the screen (whether in Landscape or portrait, left edge (for "lefties") or right edge) then Slide Up to zoom in, slide down to zoom out.)
Instead, here is their description, in section Enhanced User Experience:
"Internet: Slide your thumb from the left or right edge to zoom in and out"
Pitiful, don't you think? No wonder people didn't even know it existed. In fact, I at first thought it was a bug, until I tried "reproducing it" to be able to report it, and then found it was entirely reproducible, so reproducible as to be something I trained myself on in about 5 minutes, and loved it ever since.
The big reason, ONE HANDED PHONE USE, ONE FINGER FULLY USER CONTROLLABLE ZOOM LEVEL.
It is far superior to "pinch to zoom" which requires Two hands, to hold the phone in one and pinch with the other, and two fingers. IT was and is INGENIOUS.
My guess!! Samsung had to come up with something to counter Apple's lawsuit for "pinch to zoom" and did, and it was awesome. WHen they lost the suit, but the penalty was "pocket change" for a company of their magnitude, they dumped it. Like adding a physical Home button to a touch screen, they seem to have this whacky nervousness about being too different from Apple. THe Home button is an absurd idea. I fumble the phone every time I have to press it. Not to mention the fact, I know with every press I am imposing salt from my sweaty thumb into a switch, (salt -> metal = corrosion DUH!!!!) which is by far the dumbest idea even Apple could have had. I digress.
Anyway:
http://www.samsung.com/us/article/galaxy-note-10-1-update
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Amazing research skills. Thank you. I'm going to ask one of my favorite devs to try and bake it in to his ROM.
SprintGalSII said:
The Edge Slide Zoom feature, as some call it, was actually a feature that Samsung "quietly" put on then took off, partially. (so quietly, I have yet to find a name for it anywhere on Samsung's website, in documentation, and if you contact Samsung Tech Support, either via Chat or at the "Dedicated Galaxy Support Phone Number" you will find they don't even know about it. In fact, I once got into a heated dispute with a "Dedicated Galaxy Support ""TECH"" " because he insisted I had loaded 3rd party software and they could not support me on it. I had to escalate to a supervisor, who confirmed the underling's claim until I firmly asked him to go get a S3 and I'd prove to him it was not 3rd party.)
It was on the S3, Note II, and Note 10.1 Tablet. Sprint removed it from the S3 with the February OTA release of MA6, which I refused until I got so fed up with Sprint, that I switched to AT&T. Much to my chagrin, the AT&T current release still has it. I bought 2 S3s, but got an S4 for myself. Unfortunately the S4 doesn't have it, so I'm hoping someone on here will develop it, like the user below references, except on the S3. Sprint removed it from the Note II in the last update. I don't know about other carriers, and I don't know about the Tablet. I'll be at the AT&T store later this week and will check, and report my findings.
I found it to be so useful myself, it was what pushed me over the edge to renew a 2 Year Phone Cost Subsidy agreement with Sprint, replacing a "Rooted" SII that finally was working, after I got so fed up with Samsung dragging its feet on releasing their last update.
Here are links to others who discuss it, and the only link I've found where Samsung even acknowledges it exists.
CHECK OUT HIS/HER DESCRIPTION:
[MODs][MD4][TW roms][DeOdex] Slide Zoom/ APM/ and APM with Hold Menu to kill App
"Because I love this feature, I port it to every new rom that comes out. It was originally from loserskater. This is slide zoom or edge zoom whichever you prefer, created for Sprint stock touchwiz deodex 4.1.2 MD4 only. It may work for others but i havent tested that at all. Remember to do a backup first."
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2253747&highlight=edge+zoom
Here is the Note reference to it, which is at best obscure, if not about the worst possible description of the feature I could imagine. It would appear the writer never took the time to try it, so to be able to describe it more accurately, something like "Touch then Slide any finger along the edges of the screen (whether in Landscape or portrait, left edge (for "lefties") or right edge) then Slide Up to zoom in, slide down to zoom out.)
Instead, here is their description, in section Enhanced User Experience:
"Internet: Slide your thumb from the left or right edge to zoom in and out"
Pitiful, don't you think? No wonder people didn't even know it existed. In fact, I at first thought it was a bug, until I tried "reproducing it" to be able to report it, and then found it was entirely reproducible, so reproducible as to be something I trained myself on in about 5 minutes, and loved it ever since.
The big reason, ONE HANDED PHONE USE, ONE FINGER FULLY USER CONTROLLABLE ZOOM LEVEL.
It is far superior to "pinch to zoom" which requires Two hands, to hold the phone in one and pinch with the other, and two fingers. IT was and is INGENIOUS.
My guess!! Samsung had to come up with something to counter Apple's lawsuit for "pinch to zoom" and did, and it was awesome. WHen they lost the suit, but the penalty was "pocket change" for a company of their magnitude, they dumped it. Like adding a physical Home button to a touch screen, they seem to have this whacky nervousness about being too different from Apple. THe Home button is an absurd idea. I fumble the phone every time I have to press it. Not to mention the fact, I know with every press I am imposing salt from my sweaty thumb into a switch, (salt -> metal = corrosion DUH!!!!) which is by far the dumbest idea even Apple could have had. I digress.
Anyway:
http://www.samsung.com/us/article/galaxy-note-10-1-update
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Just to be clear I am speaking about the zoom option
I have search all over for this fix. I am a T Mobile user and most all the new Roms have the option to "disable" the zoom feature but the edge zoom never worked in the first place on any ROM I found.
I was so desperate for a fix, I gave this a chance anyway KNOWING that I may brick my t999 S3 and have to pay another 35 to Jtag it again. (Yes I did it once). No Brick, IT WORKS!!!!
Thank you, thank you, thank you for finding this and explaining it. It works on my T999 S3. Not sure about your sprint phones but Im a very happy camper. Did I say thanks you?
Thanks.
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Just to be clear I am speaking about the zoom option
I have search all over for this fix. I am a T Mobile user and most all the new Roms have the option to "disable" the zoom feature but the edge zoom never worked in the first place on any ROM I found.
I was so desperate for a fix, I gave this a chance anyway KNOWING that I may brick my t999 S3 and have to pay another 35 to Jtag it again. (Yes I did it once). No Brick, IT WORKS!!!!
Thank you, thank you, thank you for finding this and explaining it. It works on my T999 S3. Not sure about your sprint phones but Im a very happy camper. Did I say thanks you?
Thanks.
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Glad it worked for you. I tried on 4.2.2 and no luck. Not working on my S 4.
Anyone who comes across this thread should give the following a try. Looks promising:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2373961
While I like the phone, love the SAMOLED and the new S-Pen features, I have many complaints about it:
The Touchwiz looks like the one I had on my old Galaxy S, not like that on my Galaxy Tab2 (which is excellent). Why the hell did they put only four rows of icons? Sometimes it looks like a visually-impaired option. I set the font to really small and still is quite big. Looks like this has even less personalization options than the tab2. Meh. I don't mind the huge size, really, but this looks like it's an enlarged phone. The extra real estate is not used effectively.
GPS is giving me many disappointements. Jumps next to building and can't track properly in trams and public transport. Again, on Tab2 it was excellent.
I am not a fearful modder, but no excellent rom is out and I will probably lose some of the s-pen features.
I am skeptical, after the bad experience with the Galaxy S I would like a phone where the hardware (i.e. GPS) actually WORKS. I shelled out some 500euros+ for this, I don't expect to see GPS jumps with ingress.
I am seriously contemplating selling it and getting an S4 or other good phone with SAMOLED, giving up the s-pen (which is more a treat than a must).
I would like to hear some opinion from other users, if you share the same feelings about it.
Thanks
Cheers
You're basing this off something you can replace in two clicks? Do you have any idea how ridiculous that is?
Ditch Touchwiz. Get Apex or Nova. Problem solved.
Agree with shadow.. install nova and add more dock icons. . If you still feel it looks to much like a "phone"(LOL surprise it's supposed to be a phone) you can change the dpi, I have dpi set to 320 and everything looks great
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You're basing this off something you can replace in two clicks? Do you have any idea how ridiculous that is?
Ditch Touchwiz. Get Apex or Nova. Problem solved.
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But do I keep S-Pen functions then?
Because if I then lose the s-pen, what's the point of keeping the Note 3 vs S4? Beside 1 GB more of ram that is...
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Agree with shadow.. install nova and add more dock icons. . If you still feel it looks to much like a "phone"(LOL surprise it's supposed to be a phone) you can change the dpi, I have dpi set to 320 and everything looks great
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Regarding "Phone"
Perhaps I was not expressing myself clearly enough. I am comparing to the Tab2 (7", so not so far actually), which I have and it's great in every aspect on stock. I see the design effore there. Here, it looks just a rescaling of a normal 4" screen "Phone" rom. (not Phablet, as the note should be, if you want)
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But do I keep S-Pen functions then?
Because if I then lose the s-pen, what's the point of keeping the Note 3 vs S4? Beside 1 GB more of ram that is...
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S-pen functions are not dependent on the launcher. When people here say something is based on touchwiz, it just means that whatever function they're referring to is based on the touchwiz framework present in the rom, not actually using the TW launcher. I use Nova launcher & my s-pen functions are fully intact. You would only lose s-pen functionality if you flashed an AOSP/CM rom.
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Regarding "Phone"
Perhaps I was not expressing myself clearly enough. I am comparing to the Tab2 (7", so not so far actually), which I have and it's great in every aspect on stock. I see the design effore there. Here, it looks just a rescaling of a normal 4" screen "Phone" rom. (not Phablet, as the note should be, if you want)
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You can change the screen DPI to make it look more like a "phablet", but you'll need to be rooted because the apps that can achieve this need root access to work.
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But do I keep S-Pen functions then?
Because if I then lose the s-pen, what's the point of keeping the Note 3 vs S4? Beside 1 GB more of ram that is...
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All Spen functions are intact. They're not part of the launcher, they are their own apps on top of a launcher.
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S-pen functions are not dependent on the launcher. When people here say something is based on touchwiz, it just means that whatever function they're referring to is based on the touchwiz framework present in the rom, not actually using the TW launcher. I use Nova launcher & my s-pen functions are fully intact. You would only lose s-pen functionality if you flashed an AOSP/CM rom.
You can change the screen DPI to make it look more like a "phablet", but you'll need to be rooted because the apps that can achieve this need root access to work.
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Ok, I will definitively try it, like, now.
If the launcher becomes decent, I will then evaluate if the GPS issue alone is a problem for me. Thanks.
McBain_666 said:
Ok, I will definitively try it, like, now.
If the launcher becomes decent, I will then evaluate if the GPS issue alone is a problem for me. Thanks.
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First thing I did was replacing the launcher. I got so used to a non stock one that this was the first To do for me. Why on earth would I want any company to tell me what I can do with a product I just dropped 700€ for?
After 3 days I really missed the volume rocker to skip tracks option. So a root was what was next. You can tweak your phone to whatever you need it to be. And if you look at Samsungs touchwiz, it's for sure just a blown up UI of a phone. Well, like others already stated, it is a phone. My phone is actually a library, magazine reader, gaming machine, on the go multi language translator, camera (the best camera you can have is the one you have on hand when a good opportunity arises), and so much more. I'd actually go so far to say that my phone is an awesome pocket PC with which I can place phone calls (maybe 2-5% of whatever I use it for the rest of the time).
Did I say that it makes an awesome music player for in car use when you use tasker to automate things like gps for speed based volume setting, skipping songs with volume rocker (eyes free operation)....
Oh, sorry. i got carried away. This phone so far provides the best GPS I had so far. What's the issue with yours?
Mikegrmn said:
First thing I did was replacing the launcher. I got so used to a non stock one that this was the first To do for me. Why on earth would I want any company to tell me what I can do with a product I just dropped 700€ for?
After 3 days I really missed the volume rocker to skip tracks option. So a root was what was next. You can tweak your phone to whatever you need it to be. And if you look at Samsungs touchwiz, it's for sure just a blown up UI of a phone. Well, like others already stated, it is a phone. My phone is actually a library, magazine reader, gaming machine, on the go multi language translator, camera (the best camera you can have is the one you have on hand when a good opportunity arises), and so much more. I'd actually go so far to say that my phone is an awesome pocket PC with which I can place phone calls (maybe 2-5% of whatever I use it for the rest of the time).
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On Apex Launcher now. MUUUUUUUUUUCH better, like, another planet. Makes me not wanna sell the phone just yet. I still have to investigate the unroot/unKnox thing before rooting. I still want to keep the warranty for a month-ish. Again, coming from a satisfactory stock Tab2 7" I was hoping not to have to root, but still, if everything works the only thing becomes the GPS.
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Did I say that it makes an awesome music player for in car use when you use tasker to automate things like gps for speed based volume setting, skipping songs with volume rocker (eyes free operation).... Oh, sorry. i got carried away. This phone so far provides the best GPS I had so far. What's the issue with yours?
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My feeling is that they screwed up the antenna again, like in the Galaxy S. I have a Tab2 7"and it has great accuracy everywhere. In particular, while on public transport (trams) it follows me readily. This Note 3, today lost lock several times on the tram and was always jumping around. A fiend with S4 has perfect lock on trams. Yesterday the GPS was also jumping on the open, I was simply walking next to a big building. (I play Ingress)
In the GPS thread someone said that they sent in the phone for repairs and they got a better GPS afterwards, but I am skeptical, ppl were saying that also for the first SGS, which eventually, just had a crappy GPS antenna. What's your experience>?
McBain_666 said:
On Apex Launcher now. MUUUUUUUUUUCH better, like, another planet. Makes me not wanna sell the phone just yet. I still have to investigate the unroot/unKnox thing before rooting. I still want to keep the warranty for a month-ish. Again, coming from a satisfactory stock Tab2 7" I was hoping not to have to root, but still, if everything works the only thing becomes the GPS.
My feeling is that they screwed up the antenna again, like in the Galaxy S. I have a Tab2 7"and it has great accuracy everywhere. In particular, while on public transport (trams) it follows me readily. This Note 3, today lost lock several times on the tram and was always jumping around. A fiend with S4 has perfect lock on trams. Yesterday the GPS was also jumping on the open, I was simply walking next to a big building. (I play Ingress)
In the GPS thread someone said that they sent in the phone for repairs and they got a better GPS afterwards, but I am skeptical, ppl were saying that also for the first SGS, which eventually, just had a crappy GPS antenna. What's your experience>?
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My razr HD took ages to get a lock. Never had the issue so far with my N3, but then, I didn't use it for navigation so far. Just speed based volume bc my current car is lacking this feature.
For my razr HD I used GPS test, an app from play store. Go to settings and try "update agps". This brought the fix time down on my razr HD. Although it took ages when I started the feature while moving. It's just so much better on my N3. Maybe your unit is faulty. Have some one with another N3 to see if there's a difference? Would be a good try. Although, most people I know just find the note much too big. So in my circles, there wouldn't be a second N3 to verify. Maybe a carrier or dealer?
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My razr HD took ages to get a lock. Never had the issue so far with my N3, but then, I didn't use it for navigation so far. Just speed based volume bc my current car is lacking this feature.
For my razr HD I used GPS test, an app from play store. Go to settings and try "update agps". This brought the fix time down on my razr HD. Although it took ages when I started the feature while moving. It's just so much better on my N3. Maybe your unit is faulty. Have some one with another N3 to see if there's a difference? Would be a good try. Although, most people I know just find the note much too big. So in my circles, there wouldn't be a second N3 to verify. Maybe a carrier or dealer?
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The locking is indeed fast. Maybe faster than the Tab2. But then the accuracy sucks. It will be hard to explain or prove that it it a malfunction, I don't know if I would get a really better functioning one. Here in Switzerland they're not so big on customer support, but I suppose I could try. Maybe I could try writing to Samsung or so. :/ I will anyway check the accuracy with the GPS test asap.
I put nova launcher on my phones first thing when I get them. Much better than stock overlay. Also, my first note 3 had a bad gps antenna and wouldn't even lock on to any satellites. The new one locks on quick but I haven't tested nav yet.
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With Apex Launcher and Holo Locker, the phone is starting to look OK.
I still regret that I can't have the security pattern on with the custom lock. (all the other lockers I've found with security make it a two-steps unlock [custom unlock -> stock pattern unlock], which I find annoying, if you know otherwise please let me know)
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Looks like there is an issue here, but is related to the compass rather than the GPS antenna. Yesterday I calibrated the compass and then I had perfect reception in trams, then today suddenly it lost lock, the compass was pointing wrong, and the GPS Test told me 1 satellite in sight for like 5 minutes, at which point it snapped back into a correct view, had 21 satellites in sight and locked quickly, with fair precision.
I will still experiment more and perhaps post a screenshot. Any suggestion is gladly welcomed.
Well after a week-ish I would say I am way past any doubt that this is a great device.
Regarding my initial Touchwiz perplexities, Apex Launcher solved it. I still would like to change the dpi in the menu, device, etc. But that's minor, now.
The GPS issue is also greatly reduced. Still, my Galaxy Tab 2 7" has WAY faster locking times and accuracy. I still think that the antenna is better, but it's also a larger device. It happened already with Ingress that I was sitting in a spot with friends, and nobody got a lock but me with the Tab 2. To mantain proper lock, it's important not to let the compass go crazy. Sometime it's pointing in a bad direction, then it's enough to rotate your wrist a couple of times and usually it switches back in place. Can't really whether this is software-fixable, but once you know it becomes a minor issue.
Beside, I am really starting to enjoy the S-Pen. Multitasking is great. The machine is simply -powerful-. Blazing fast in everything.
It's the fist time that stopping by an iPad test post I do NOT think "ok Apple suck but it definitively looks smoother than my android devices". On the contrary, it felt way more sluggish.
So, no, I won't sell it for the moment. I just hope that Samsung will make a reasonable software update within the next 6 months.
With the Tab2 7" they were doing a great job, I also bough it when JB got out and they did upgrade it after about 6 months, fixing most of the obvious TW shortcomings, and it's not even a flagship device.
did you have problems with gps capture?
ELCUPRA said:
did you have problems with gps capture?
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Yes, losing lock and accuracy while in movement in places with non-optimal (but not bad) reception. At the same time, the compass would flicker and point in wrong directions.