[Q] sbf doubt! - Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi guys!!
i have a doubt... i want to "clean" my defy+ so i decided to flash a stock sbf, format sd, charge the battery and then go back to cm!
my doubt is: does the performance (on cm) change depending on the sbf i flash?? or after flashing a custom rom, there won't be any difference??
becuase i read some users saying nordic froyo is the best..
thanks!

daede86 said:
Hi guys!!
i have a doubt... i want to "clean" my defy+ so i decided to flash a stock sbf, format sd, charge the battery and then go back to cm!
my doubt is: does the performance (on cm) change depending on the sbf i flash?? or after flashing a custom rom, there won't be any difference??
becuase i read some users saying nordic froyo is the best..
thanks!
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I don't think "cleaning" your phone will give you more than a placebo effect. Are you on bl5, bl6 or bl7?
In my opinion it's not too important what sbf you have as base, but the kernel you flash. I'm on bl6, so I can flash both froyo and gb kernels. If i want to go back to stock and charge my battery to maximum after using a froyo rom, i only restore this 4.5.1-134_DFP-231 nandroid with 4.5.3-109 or 4.5.2-109-DHT22 kernel. I'm on bootolader 6, so i've flashed a fixed sbf with the bl6 froyo sbf bootloader (here)
For every-day use, I have the 4.5.2-109-DHT22 kernel on gb roms. When i flash this over my stock gingerbread rom together with a custom rom (gingerbread rom that is), i get great battery (with deepsleep). Also, gingerbread kernels support 4 vsels in bootmenu and IMO reads the battery level much more correctly.
What you can do to your defy+ depends a lot on what bl version you're on. If you have bl7, you can't flash froyo kernels, etc.
Haven't really got any experiences with kernels and speed/performance.

firt at all thanks for your help!!
actually i'm not sure about my bootloader.. i think it's bl6 but i never got how to understand it...
DEFYPLUS_U3_4.5.1-134_DFP-132
is it bl6??
it's strange because i everytime i flash 4.5.2-109-DHT22 kernel i get bootloader error.. but i can root it normally so i don't think it's bl7!
thanks again for your help!!

daede86 said:
firt at all thanks for your help!!
actually i'm not sure about my bootloader.. i think it's bl6 but i never got how to understand it...
DEFYPLUS_U3_4.5.1-134_DFP-132
is it bl6??
it's strange because i everytime i flash 4.5.2-109-DHT22 kernel i get bootloader error.. but i can root it normally so i don't think it's bl7!
thanks again for your help!!
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That's BL6.

daede86 said:
firt at all thanks for your help!!
actually i'm not sure about my bootloader.. i think it's bl6 but i never got how to understand it...
DEFYPLUS_U3_4.5.1-134_DFP-132
is it bl6??
it's strange because i everytime i flash 4.5.2-109-DHT22 kernel i get bootloader error.. but i can root it normally so i don't think it's bl7!
thanks again for your help!!
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4.5.2-109-DHT22 is BL5, yours is BL6 and that's why you get the error.

Thabks thanks thanks!!!
Really helpful like always!!

You can flash bl6froyo sbf or bl6froyo fixed sbf with the bootloader only! then you can flash Walter's kernel and even froyo kernels!
Sent from my Defy+

did it! now finally i'm using walter kernel.. and i don't know if it's a placebo effect, but my defy is way faster
thanks again!

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[Q] Can I flash Defy+ MB526 Firmware on a MB525?

I was wondering if I could flash this (UK version) Defy+ MB526 Firmware on a MB525 (red lens) without any problem?
Could someone be so kind as to share a little knowledge here?
Thanks in advance.
I flashed this full sbf and now no 3g and no market, trying to downgrade, hope to find and answer.
I dont think there is a downgrade after you flash full-sbf. we can only use cm9 and GB kernel roms after that.
TheMayor said:
I flashed this full sbf and now no 3g and no market, trying to downgrade, hope to find and answer.
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you can not do that. Defy and Defy+ have locked bootloader that wont allow the downgrade. Still there is hope for your phone, your issues are quite solvable. You should root your phone, install baseband switcher for 3g, then install custom recovery and then flash google apps, all of this you can find it in the dev section.
If you ask there I would gladly help
u can flash ms2ginger, argentstone, CM7, CM9 but to install there u must root your phone, custom recovery...

[Q] Defy+ doesn't boot CM7 nightly roms

Hello,
I have installed CM7 for Defy(not plus) in my cellphone perfectly.
So then, I found the CM7 Defy+ nightlys and I'm trying to install it. But when I install the ROM on it and reboot, it stays in the initial logo forever.
Could you help me?
Best regards.
please help
Try another rom, like MUIU or any other rom and see if the start loop is overcome.
Did you wipe the memory after?
If you want to instal defy+ nighties, you first have to flash the gingerbread kernel. (CM9kernel.zip)
So now flash the stock ROM and start again. You probably downgraded to instal three normal defy nightly do you have to flash a defy+ ROM with the same bl nr. After that root instal 2nt... and flash the defy+ nightly (and wipe). If you want to be able to switch, you will have to flash the downgrade sbf again and flash the CM9 kernel. Then you can switch with just flashing the kernel and ROM (sbf wipe)
Sent from my MB525 using XDA
i have the rom from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1445259 it has a battery and a camera fix it's really good i'm using it for a month and a half and i don't have any problems
labsin said:
If you want to instal defy+ nighties, you first have to flash the gingerbread kernel. (CM9kernel.zip)
So now flash the stock ROM and start again. You probably downgraded to instal three normal defy nightly do you have to flash a defy+ ROM with the same bl nr. After that root instal 2nt... and flash the defy+ nightly (and wipe). If you want to be able to switch, you will have to flash the downgrade sbf again and flash the CM9 kernel. Then you can switch with just flashing the kernel and ROM (sbf wipe)
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omg, it works, thank you very much
i have the rom from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1445259 it has a battery and a camera fix it's really good i'm using it for a month and a half and i don't have any problems
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Do cm7 nightly have these fixes? I'm running nightly now and camera seems ok, but I don't know yet about the battery.

[Q] Downgrade & Bootloader ?

Hi,
I have seen soo many BL7 and Bootloader posts for Defy & Defy+, do these bootloaders in anyway assist Defy users using 4.5.1-134 Orange GB Blur or 4.5.1-128 Orange GB Blur(Android 2.3.4 "Gingerbread" !!BETA!!), downgrade to ANY Froyo sbf ?
What is the use of having BL7 or is it only for Defy+ users to use custom roms ?, I'm confused please help... :S
Thanks,
Scan
scan06disk said:
Hi,
I have seen soo many BL7 and Bootloader posts for Defy & Defy+, do these bootloaders in anyway assist Defy users using 4.5.1-134 Orange GB Blur or 4.5.1-128 Orange GB Blur(Android 2.3.4 "Gingerbread" !!BETA!!), downgrade to ANY Froyo sbf ?
What is the use of having BL7 or is it only for Defy+ users ?, I'm confused... :S
Thanks,
Scan
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You got it a little wrong. BL7 doesn't assist in using any ROM. BL7(BootLoader 7) is referred to stock Gingerbread (2.3.6) SBF's from Motorola (for Defy+) which have been signed as version 7. If you have a BL7 ROM on your device (either a stock or flashed one), You CANNOT Downgrade to anything, and will be stuck at 2.3.6
neo.ank said:
If you have a BL7 ROM on your device (either a stock or flashed one), You CANNOT Downgrade to anything, and will be stuck at 2.3.6
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Oh ok I think I got it...!, so basically since I'm still on 2.3.4 I can play with all those custom roms, than those stuck on 2.3.6 who until now had nothing because BL was locked to stock rom and wouldn't allow a custom rom to run ?
Good thing i didn't flash 2.3.6... lol
THAAAANKS NEO.ank !!!
scan06disk said:
Oh ok I think I got it...!, so basically since I'm still on 2.3.4 I can play with all those custom roms, than those stuck on 2.3.6 who until now had nothing because BL was locked to stock rom and wouldn't allow a custom rom to run ?
Good thing i didn't flash 2.3.6... lol
THAAAANKS NEO.ank !!!
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The root methods for previous versions do not work with BL7.Though its rootable, still it cannot downgrade so the custom ROMs for froyo kernel won't work.
Sent from my Defy+ using Tapatalk 2

Defy+ / MB526 - Wanting to root, just want to make sure

i've had a couple of defys before and a defy+ (im hard on phones) i'm now on my 2nd defy + and this time i have been unable to root it.
in the past i have used superoneclick.
i hae found various threads around with people having the same problem, but none with a detailed guide of what will and will not work
the versions on my phone are as follows
system version : 45.0.1881.MB526.O2.en.IE
Model number: MB626
Android Version 2.3.6
Baseband Version EPU93_U_00.60.02
Kernel Version [email protected]#1
Build Number 4.5.1-134_DFP-1881
Can anyone Please help me? i hate the stock rom and lack of speed!
Thanks in adavnce
That one's got one of the latest firmwares from Moto which are signed as BL7.
This is the way to go - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1542956
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So once i've done that am i able to install the cm roms etc like before on my previous phones?
Thanks
B0000M said:
So once i've done that am i able to install the cm roms etc like before on my previous phones?
Thanks
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Once rooted it is same as you modded your defy.
2ndInit>CWM>Custom ROM.
Confusion
neo.ank said:
Once rooted it is same as you modded your defy.
2ndInit>CWM>Custom ROM.
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I also want to root my Defy+ but I m having some doubts and questions -
Will I be able to revert back to(flash) Stock SBF? I do possess the stock SBF of my region.
Although I am sure it won't but, will the bootloader and stock recovery be affected? And if yes how I am going to COMPLETELY revert back?
Success! Now rooted and running cm9
As for returning it to standard I can't confirm, but once you go. Cm you don't want to go back
Axelssj99 said:
I also want to root my Defy+ but I m having some doubts and questions -
Will I be able to revert back to(flash) Stock SBF? I do possess the stock SBF of my region.
Although I am sure it won't but, will the bootloader and stock recovery be affected? And if yes how I am going to COMPLETELY revert back?
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You can revert it completely by flashing your stock SBF.
btw what's the build number on your device.?
Build
B0000M said:
As for returning it to standard I can't confirm, but once you go. Cm you don't want to go back
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- To claim your warranty or to revert any mishap, you HAVE to.
neo.ank said:
You can revert it completely by flashing your stock SBF.
btw what's the build number on your device.?
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- Build Number 4.5.1-134_DFP-231; Same as the SBFs provided and Sys. ver. is 45.0.2310.MB526.AsiaRetail.en.03(you know, Indian Defy+, assuming they all have same numbers/versions).
What about the BL or recovery, will they affected?
Axelssj99 said:
- To claim your warranty or to revert any mishap, you HAVE to.
- Build Number 4.5.1-134_DFP-231; Same as the SBFs provided and Sys. ver. is 45.0.2310.MB526.AsiaRetail.en.03(you know, Indian Defy+, assuming they all have same numbers/versions).
What about the BL or recovery, will they affected?
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You have a BL7 device.
Don't worry 'bout anything, just go with the modding & whenever you want to revert just flash your stock SBF and your phone will be just as you bought it including recovery and BL.

[Q] How to go back to MIUI Pickachu Edition 2.xz from CM10 nightly (18-Nov)

Hi folks!
As the title suggests, I want out from JellyBean and back to MIUI Pickachu Edition 2.xz
I think the latest 2nd boot builds have the GB kernel since I see 4 Vsel levels, so should I flash the froyo kernel?
If so, what should be the order of flashing ROM -> Kernel or other way round?
Also, I have a nandroid backup of when I had MIUI. What steps do I have to follow to restore it, i.e, do I have to flash the ROM (and/or kernel since I was on froyo kernel when the backup was taken) to restore nandroid?
I read a lot about the fuss of latest nightlies changing /system and /data to ext4, but in my case they are ext3, so I guess I should be alright?
Reason for going back is LAG! the immense amount of time to open stuff. I tried loving it, but its just too slow to the point I feel like its running Windows 8 on Intel 8086.
Please post all questions in Q&A. Thread moved there.
Hi!
My friend was in same situation and he went ahead and tried to flash MIUI Pickachu edition, but his process got stuck and now his Defy won't boot.
Hes now flashing stock Froyo sbf.
Thats the reason why I need to know instructions to get back to MIUI without going through sbf flashing.
Any help gladly appreciated!
Krusadr said:
Hi!
My friend was in same situation and he went ahead and tried to flash MIUI Pickachu edition, but his process got stuck and now his Defy won't boot.
Hes now flashing stock Froyo sbf.
Thats the reason why I need to know instructions to get back to MIUI without going through sbf flashing.
Any help gladly appreciated!
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Did you make a nandroid?
Sent from my MB525 using xda app-developers app
how do I install miui and cyanogenmod both on defy MB525
any help in installing miui on defy would be much appreciated.
You need to flash a Froyo SBF. For some reasons going back to 2.3 always ends in a cache error, flashing 2.6 kernel, nandroid, fullwhipe etc. doesnt work
Harry GT-S5830 said:
Did you make a nandroid?
Sent from my MB525 using xda app-developers app
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Yes, I have a nandroid backup which I made before installing JB.
sunil_defy said:
how do I install miui and cyanogenmod both on defy MB525
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sunil_defy said:
any help in installing miui on defy would be much appreciated.
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Seek and you shall find!
Steveletack said:
You need to flash a Froyo SBF. For some reasons going back to 2.3 always ends in a cache error, flashing 2.6 kernel, nandroid, fullwhipe etc. doesnt work
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Bummer! I wanted to avoid doing all of that!
Thanks for all your help!
sunil_defy said:
any help in installing miui on defy would be much appreciated.
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R U on Froyo or GB? if Froyo try to flash fixed sbf I will attached if needed.
Just flashing froyo kernel was ok for the 2nd boot builds upto 9 nov builds.
From 9th nov builds the cm10 rom formats our defy to ext4 file system, so in order to downgrade we need to flash the sbf.
Sent from my MB526 using xda premium
What if i am on mig v2.02 rom and wantd to downgrade to any gingerbread rom..do i need to flash froyo kernel or i need to change 2boot to 2init in bootmenu and clean data to ext 3 then flash rom in custom recovery???
Sent from my MB526 using xda premium
vedhasd said:
Just flashing froyo kernel was ok for the 2nd boot builds upto 9 nov builds.
From 9th nov builds the cm10 rom formats our defy to ext4 file system, so in order to downgrade we need to flash the sbf.
Sent from my MB526 using xda premium
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My friend, thats what I have said, in my OP,
I have checked using mount command from rooted shell and I can confirm that my /data and /system are STILL in ext3 even though some say that the latest nightlies change the fs while formatting.
Try restoring your backup, you may succeed, otherwise you need to start all over again, with the sbf. I find it better to start all over anyway, no matter, what rom we are talking about. Those installed over a freshly flashed sbf proved to be snappier and absolutely bugfree - at least for me.
Simply try to restore your backup. I tried many roms so far, aslo the newest by Quarx and Epsylon and i always worked for me to install a new rom/zip/ withour anything further. Never installed a sbf.
Was quite late in posting a reply but I did end up flashing Stock Defy 2.2.2 SEA sbf.
I did flash successfully MIUI (Pikachu edition) but it was a bit off, so took a backup and flashed sbf.
Have been on stock ever since (been kinda busy).

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