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Well, it seems it is a though decision for many people besides me...
I went from a HTC Touch to a i780 from Samsung. Much better phone than the Touch as everybody should know. Used it for more than a year till I got my hands on a new Samsung Jet. Very nice phone, much lighter, smaller, nice interface, and above all a awesome display (AMOLED 800x480). So I bought it a few months ago, but... the problem is when someone is used to a real smartphone with all the software and apps available, and the true customization options... So, Jet to the closet and i780 back on use, but... always a "but"... after getting used to the awesome display, the i780 just looks like crap.
Ok, so even with lot's of phones on every corner of my house, I'm convinced to get something new. I've tried a HTC Hero from a friend and really liked the HTC Sense interface. Android also seem's to work fine under the Sense skin, but the display and an old OS version (android 1.6) doesn't convince me to spend my money as I know I'll always be thinking on something more "up to date".
I went through net surfing and some stores, and the HD2 is really a awesome device: great, great display, fast, etc... But as we know, soon there will be some great new devices: the HTC Supersonic (HD2 alike with Android); the HTC Bravo (much alike Nexus One, but with the awesome HTC Sense); and the Nexus One itself (not yet available in Portugal, but soon it will get here). Besides those, there will be a new iPhone soon, and I don't believe Apple want's to loose the race of smartphones with a new iPhone with lower specs than the others, so probably a great iPhone will come to the light. I must say, I'm a Mac user, but never felt the "need" for an iPhone, but I confess I really like it.
So, in my place, what would you do? HD2 right now or wait for the others?
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Wait for the 5" Dell mini 5 on Android!
I think the new iphone will be very similar in specs to the ipad and it will not have any special '4G' apps. But I could be wrong.
4G is supposed to be the name of the new iPhone... I'm not thinking about new apps, only better specs: display, camera, faster cpu, etc...
By the time 4G/LTE is actually a reasonably implemented cellular standard across Europe, the iPhone "4G" will look like a toy from half a decade ago...
Be happy that there are at least a few places in Portugal with 7.2mbps HSDPA service, and generally available 3.6mbps/1.8mbps maximum speeds (all theoretical, of course).
Just get a HD2 now, friend.
I think you can expect a 5mpix camera, 1GHz Apple processor and MAYBE a better display... which means, in the best case, the specs will match the HTC Bravo.
So, I'd say forget about the iPhone. No iPhone could yet match the hardware specs of its competitors, and that won't change with the next version.
Question that remains: HTC Bravo or HD2... right now, I'd say Bravo, BUT that won't be available until March, which is when Windows Mobile 7 will have already been unveiled.
Bottom line: Wait until the announcement of Windows Mobile 7 on February 15. Chances are that it will blow away every bit of desire you now feel for Android or iPhone
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By the time 4G/LTE is actually a reasonably implemented cellular standard across Europe, the iPhone "4G" will look like a toy from half a decade ago...
Be happy that there are at least a few places in Portugal with 7.2mbps HSDPA service, and generally available 3.6mbps/1.8mbps maximum speeds (all theoretical, of course).
Just get a HD2 now, friend.
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You are right my friend, but once more I want to make an attention call for this: iPhone 4G, it's only the name of the device. It doesn't mean it's built for 4th generation networks. At least, it's the name already seen in the source code of the latest updates of iPhone OS. The new iPhone, will be called 4G the same way it could be called 3GSS, or something else...
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I think you can expect a 5mpix camera, 1GHz Apple processor and MAYBE a better display... which means, in the best case, the specs will match the HTC Bravo.
So, I'd say forget about the iPhone. No iPhone could yet match the hardware specs of its competitors, and that won't change with the next version.
Question that remains: HTC Bravo or HD2... right now, I'd say Bravo, BUT that won't be available until March, which is when Windows Mobile 7 will have already been unveiled.
Bottom line: Wait until the announcement of Windows Mobile 7 on February 15. Chances are that it will blow away every bit of desire you now feel for Android or iPhone
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Aside from the awesome display, the Bravo it's the one most appealing. HD2 or Supersonic, really have great displays, but they are uncomfortable big to carry out on your pocket (pants pocket of course).
About Windows 7, let's wait and see. To say the true, I've always been a Linux/MacOS user and fan (I work as IT Security Specialist, so Windows is always a bad work tool), but to be honest, I've never had problems with Windows based mobile devices...
At least I hope WinMobile 7 to be as good as Windows 7 for PC.
Aside from the awesome display, the Bravo it's the one most appealing.
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Yeah, NOW... but as I said, by the time the Bravo gets available, you may already have seen WM7 and may not find the Bravo appealing anymore.
You should just wait now, it's a long time until Bravo, iPhone 4G etc. get available and with the speed that smartphones are evolving, what seems appealing now may already be boring with a month.
If you want a new phone right now, get the HD2. That's undoubtedly the best smartphone thats available now in Europe.
But if you don't mind waiting, just stop wondering now about what you should buy and wait what will happen.
And by the way, the HD2 will not be too big for your pocket at all. In fact, I find it more comfortable than the iPhone 3G and the Touch HD I had before, due to the reduced thickness.
At least I hope WinMobile 7 to be as good as Windows 7 for PC.
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Which would make it the best mobile OS
(says someone who has never touched Mac OS X again since the first beta of Windows 7)
freyberry said:
If you want a new phone right now, get the HD2. That's undoubtedly the best smartphone thats available now in Europe.
And by the way, the HD2 will not be too big for your pocket at all. In fact, I find it more comfortable than the iPhone 3G and the Touch HD I had before, due to the reduced thickness.
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Right now, it is really the best one. But will in the future be available an official OS update with WM7? This is probably the most popular question on the forum about the HD2, and if it really has some "hidden" memory to support it...
About it's size, I tried one in the shop when I was carrying my i780. It is bigger than the i780 and it really feels that big in my pocket, even without the leather case. Bigger than my i780, which is uncomfortable in the pocket (front left pocket of my pants) specially when driving... but I forgive it for the awesome display
Right now, it is really the best one. But will in the future be available an official OS update with WM7?
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The HD2 definitely supports it. It does not need any hidden memory, the official specs are enough. I can promise you this.
What I can not promise, is that HTC will release an official upgrade. If they don't there's still a chance that WM7 for the HD2 will be leaked.
But if you want to be sure, just wait another two weeks, cause it's likely that if they will release an official upgrade, they will announce it at the same time Microsoft annouces WM7.
My advice is: Wait for two weeks, and if you like WM7 and there will be an official upgrade, then buy the HD2.
If you don't like what Microsoft shows at MWC, then you can still think about what device to buy. Right now, wondering about what to buy is just a waste of time, because a lot will change in the next few weeks.
The wait will kill me
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Well, it seems it is a though decision for many people besides me...
I went from a HTC Touch to a i780 from Samsung. Much better phone than the Touch as everybody should know. Used it for more than a year till I got my hands on a new Samsung Jet. Very nice phone, much lighter, smaller, nice interface, and above all a awesome display (AMOLED 800x480). So I bought it a few months ago, but... the problem is when someone is used to a real smartphone with all the software and apps available, and the true customization options... So, Jet to the closet and i780 back on use, but... always a "but"... after getting used to the awesome display, the i780 just looks like crap.
Ok, so even with lot's of phones on every corner of my house, I'm convinced to get something new. I've tried a HTC Hero from a friend and really liked the HTC Sense interface. Android also seem's to work fine under the Sense skin, but the display and an old OS version (android 1.6) doesn't convince me to spend my money as I know I'll always be thinking on something more "up to date".
I went through net surfing and some stores, and the HD2 is really a awesome device: great, great display, fast, etc... But as we know, soon there will be some great new devices: the HTC Supersonic (HD2 alike with Android); the HTC Bravo (much alike Nexus One, but with the awesome HTC Sense); and the Nexus One itself (not yet available in Portugal, but soon it will get here). Besides those, there will be a new iPhone soon, and I don't believe Apple want's to loose the race of smartphones with a new iPhone with lower specs than the others, so probably a great iPhone will come to the light. I must say, I'm a Mac user, but never felt the "need" for an iPhone, but I confess I really like it.
So, in my place, what would you do? HD2 right now or wait for the others?
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whats the point in waiting ? every few monats a new really cool phone come out. and you can not compare these phones, there is one windows mobile phone,3 android phones and a osx phone.
Um, what about the Diamond 3/Obsession, or whatever it will be called???
I'm itching to buy an HD2, I even went and had another play with one today : ) However, there are two things stopping me buying it. One is size, the other is that the lack of an AMOLED display.
At the end of last year I bought an Acer S200 with Snapdragon chip. It was awesome because it was so fast : ) The downside was the lack of people developing stuff for it here on XDA, so when the headphone jack failed after two weeks, I sent it back. The next phone I tried was an Omnia II, which was dog slow compared to the Acer, but, of course, it was a little bit smaller than the Acer and it had a beautiful AMOLED screen...
So, I reckon, if you're unsure of the size, wait until the MWC in a couple of weeks and see what is announced. If HTC release a WinMo device that is the size of the Bravo or smaller, but still has a 3.7" sreen and Snapdragon chip, I'm buying it ; )
With regard to WinMo 7, I have one big worry. What if the specs that have been leaked are a minumum standard??? What if our Snapdragon devices struggle to run it like earlier Qualcomm chipsets struggle with 6.5?? What if you actually need the faster Snapdragon, or even dual core Snapdragon chipset to run it well? Just a thought : )
If you want a new phone now, buy the HD2 as it is by far the best one out there. If you can wait, there is always something better coming in the future.
But then, if "something better" is finally out, there will probably be another something better if you can wait another while...
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With regard to WinMo 7, I have one big worry. What if the specs that have been leaked are a minumum standard??? What if our Snapdragon devices struggle to run it like earlier Qualcomm chipsets struggle with 6.5?? What if you actually need the faster Snapdragon, or even dual core Snapdragon chipset to run it well? Just a thought : )
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Don't believe the bull**** people spread on the internet. The HD2 runs WM7 perfectly.
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and you can not compare these phones, there is one windows mobile phone,3 android phones and a osx phone.
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What he said. To me from what I've tried android is a big "meh", so it's out. iPhone is even more out for lack of multitasking, closed environment, etc. So that leaves only the HD2. And, good news, I've loved it when trying it. So my order will go out next week
You cannot chase technology and win my friend, whatever you buy now will be old in 4 months time. R&D is always way ahead. Whatever you buy, buy it for your needs and learn to be satisfied, remembering that they will ALWAYS be something new just around the corner, and if you don't adjust your thinking you will always be unhappy as soon as the next thing comes out.
Recently sold my HD2 - although a cracking device which i personally miss.. No Windows 7 Mobile upgrade was enough to annoy me into selling.
Purchasing a HTC Desire this week..
It does seem like an interesting year ahead for Android itself - the application store has grown a huge amount over the last few months.. Motorola Droid pretty much changed the fortunes of that company, plus sold more in it's first 2 weeks than the iPhone 2G did. Which i find simply jaw dropping.
Now Samsung, LG and Sony are all releasing Android phones... Pretty much abandoning their own platforms for the most part.. Which can only mean more apps for Android - any developer would be insane not to with the user base about to exploid with majority of mobile manufactures moving to it (with exception of Nokia obviously)
I was going to wait for the new iPhone release in June - then again.. Any upgrade Apple will make will be a 5mp camera, AMOLED screen, 1GHZ(ish) CPU and larger screen (pos).. Which HTC Desire has, so i can't see myself wanting it over the HTC Desire in a few months.. Plus i general detest how overly priced the iPhone is..
I've always thought what set the iPhone apart from current phones - isn't the OS interfaced or the hardware.. HTC have caught up in that respect.. But the application store was always it's biggest seller - more to do with third party developers than Apple itself... But now with Android getting such a massive uptake - you gotta wonder.. In 6 months is that really going to be the case? How long will it be till the Android marketplace is actually bigger and better than the iPhone AppStore... It's got to happen.. Simply from a numbers game - developers have a much higher potential earnings with a much larger user base..
Your opinions on Android?
Android just pwns.
Case closed.
Well,
I used an LG phone with propietary OS before and it sucked. Switched to a Windows Mobile phone later (used 6.5) and it sucked too! Apps? I did see like 5 good apps on the Marketplace.
I'm now using the Nexus One for 2 months and a week and this is my first Android phone and I fcking love it and most of the apps are great! I even see that some iPhone Apps were already "ported" to Android.
You see Samsung, LG and Sony are all releasing Android phones and that means Android will be grow a lot in the next 6 months! There'll be much more apps at the end of the year because everyone who's buying a new good phone is going to buy Android (I hope xD) and develop for it.
I've had my nexus for about a month & a half, before that a g1, then a wm running dash (excalibur) definitely loving android. It's linux, you can't go wrong. To be honest though I've only held an iphone once. It was kinda cool, but apple locks their **** down too much. Just my .02
Just received my Nexus One yesterday and I could not be happier. This thing is so fast and full of features that flow very well. The apps that I have decided to use are well built, many are as nice as iphone apps..
I've had the g1 since it came out. The app store has just been growing every week.
I'm still rockin a g1 cuz I'm waiting for a darn good keybored android phone to come out with amazing specs. I'm on tmobile, I thought about the cliq, but there's not much devolopment yet. Although that's not amazing specs at all lol. Although I hear the cliq is built like a metal monster
Android is the beez knees. Simple as is.
And with so many phone company's picking up android
Iphone will be down eventually. All in due time when they can't get over the same design
Sorta like the razr hahah
The Android Marketplace is going to sink the Apple App Store for sure.
It seems that developers have an easier time managing and publishing their apps through Google instead of Apple. Apple's store censosres too much and people with jail broken phones can't find any apps for their rooted devices . In the Android marketplace you can find root only apps. Open source is going to win and beat closed source. That is the way it should be.
I've heard many iPhone devs are going to develop android apps now
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I've heard many iPhone devs are going to develop android apps now
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Ya xPatriicK, what a small world.
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I've heard many iPhone devs are going to develop android apps now
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If they make them as nice as the iphone apps I wont mind spending cash on them, winmo apps were always so ugly! (in general)
I have to agree.
Android is growing so fast that Apple started wetting themselves and took a first strike against HTC as a warning shot accross the bow. Apple may end up suing everybody making Android phones to try and slow down the rabid growth. We'll have to wait and see what happens though.
Seeing the new Android SDK supports openGL ES 2.0 makes me very happy, as some iPhone users were still sassing me on my Nexus with games like Streetfighter 4 and stuff. Now it's my turn. (as soon as some decent games are developed)
Honestly. 1.5 made android what it is today, by making it into a usable experience.
I downloaded the Android SDK the first day it was available, and ran it on my computer to see what could be done with it. I swiftly dismissed Android as nearly unusable (at that point, at least I was right)
I ended up replacing the Cingular 8525 I had at that point running WM6.1 with a HTC Fuze running WM6.1. What a great device with awful software. WM isn't nearly as bad as people say it is, the problem is most rom chefs don't put on near the same amount of polish that I did with any Doom maps I made, or any of the Stepmania themes I made. To see problems solved in other roms crop up in a rom 4 versions later started to annoy me. Plus, chef's obsessions with some of HTC's awful UI staples (I swear, I will be the one to kill the engineer who wrote the full screen volume control. A change in volume shouldn't be a project, it should be a task) and the little things piled up. It never got any better. This was the future.
Let me say one thing. CRC, the chef for the HTC Hermes, is the main reason I obtained this view of the future of WM. If you ever get stuck with a HTC Hermes, use his roms. They're excellent, and bug free.
Just about the time I was getting REALLY sick of the idiocy around WM roms, and 6.5 in general, the Android porting project for the MSM7200 chipsets started releasing builds that ran more than acceptably on the Raphael. So I got involved. Downloaded some, tested kernels, the whole nine yards. This new view of Android, with a usable UI, and honest to god workable system made the decision for me. I just had to pick a device. At this point I knew I would want a Hardware keyboard, and that I would want 3g. Being an AT&T customer, this severely limited my options as to what devices I could have access to (yeah, at that point, around October last year, to none). Eventually the Droid came out and the Milestone was announced. I ended up buying a Telus Milestone from Canada on the first day it was out. Haven't looked back. If you are on the fence about android as an OS, try it out. Its available on so many of the WM phones that are talked about on this board, so if you can, run one of those builds from SD. Or just go into a Verizon store and ask to play with a Droid. They'll gladly let you play with it, because they're selling more of those than they know what to do with. Its really a great operating system, and everyone who is complaining about not having 2.1 yet is splitting hairs.
I was a long time WM user and a flashing junkie. I started off with the HTC xv6700, then the Vogue, Diamond and Touch Pro. After having a WM device for almost 5 years I just got sick of their over-priced 3rd party apps and programs and wanted to move onto something bigger and better and didn't want to wait for WP7. When I started checking for a new device, there was only one direction to go and it wasn't going to be an iphone. Android was the logical choice and this is coming from someone who wasn't initially a fan, I was loyal to WM, but after going into the Verizon store and playing with the Eris and Droid, I was sold. I had the Android ports on my Vogue and TP, but nothing is like the real thing. I found a cheap Eris on craigslist and it has been great, especially since the Eris Dev Team finally rooted it. As nice of a phone as the Eris is, I'm on the look out for something with more balls(The Incredible!!) which hopefully should be out in a month or so, which makes me really happy I didn't use my NE2 on the Eris. I can just about guarantee that HTC and Android are going to run away with the smartphone market, leaving WM, apple and RIM in the dust. With some great "super phones" coming out(EVO & Incredible) this should be a great year for Andoid, not to mention HTC.
Currently I own the Tmobile HD2.
I love it and think that it's a great device.
Still a lot is making me wonder if it's worth holding on to with WM7 coming out and Android OS out.
So many people reply to this by saying:
"XDA developers are going to port Android and WM7 to it"
Still, I can't help but feel that there are SO MANY developers out there giving reason why it can't happen, won't happen, will never happen. I hate to see that the machine that is up to par with the Nexus one has no chance of being updated OFFICIALLY AND UNOFFICIALLY. So what's the point of holding on to it? Why keep this device when more than likely within this year it will be pretty much void to any further programs for Windows Mobile 7. Can people here explain why would it be worth holding on to?
Beacause mine is on contract, haha.
I was tempted to go for HTC Desire. But considering I spend quite a big sum for this phone, I supposed I should hold on to it a little longer, at least untill end of this year.
Another thing is, while it does contain great hardware, no one is optimizing their programs for it. TCPMP is a great all around player that does not take advantage of the HD2 hardware.
my advice would be...if you like or love the phone keep it...a phone is special in its own ways...android/wm7 may or may not come...but something else could come out...and if you love the phone ,the interface shouldnt bother you...
there are many ppl who are trading their nexus one for the hd2 cuz you cant put wm in nexus...all phones are not perfect
Phenomenon said:
Currently I own the Tmobile HD2.
I love it and think that it's a great device.
Still a lot is making me wonder if it's worth holding on to with WM7 coming out and Android OS out.
So many people reply to this by saying:
"XDA developers are going to port Android and WM7 to it"
Still, I can't help but feel that there are SO MANY developers out there giving reason why it can't happen, won't happen, will never happen. I hate to see that the machine that is up to par with the Nexus one has no chance of being updated OFFICIALLY AND UNOFFICIALLY. So what's the point of holding on to it? Why keep this device when more than likely within this year it will be pretty much void to any further programs for Windows Mobile 7. Can people here explain why would it be worth holding on to?
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If you like the phone for what it is NOW, keep it. If you only have the phone for what you hope it will do in the future, get rid of it now while it's still worth a lot. There will be plenty of devices coming out that will be as good or better for every other OS out there, so go with what OS you want. I personally want a WinMo device, and the HD2 could quite possibly be one of the last great WinMo 6.5 devices made, so I'm quite happy owning it. I don't care if they port android or WP7 to it. It would be great to play with them, but WinMo is my OS for now.
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I was tempted to go for HTC Desire. But considering I spend quite a big sum for this phone, I supposed I should hold on to it a little longer, at least until end of this year.
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I had my Desire for a whole day before taking it back and returning to my hd2.. The android os was fantastic but the phones hardware was poor. I.e chassis and screen.. (not the snapdragon) I couldn't live with the screen issues where it makes things that should be grey, pink....
Going to stick with the hd2 for a while now.. If not my original one as I have just chopped it in for a new one. I really look after my devices but now i can compare my original one (received on release) with my new one I have noticed the buttons have really lost there "click" they feel very spongy after 6 months..
Really hoping we seen android on the hd2 soon!
I am keeping mine 100% ... I have been using Android, Symbian and now HD2 and gotta say (recently installed SPB Mobile Shell 3.5.3) and must admit - it is a hardware beast. I am interested to see this phone running dual boot WMN and Android - until then I will play with SPB Mobile Shell... Oh yeah - almost forgot... in next couple of years I'll sel it back home (European country) for bunch of euros and get another good phone of that time lol...
i would like to see webos on the hd2. i bought an hd2 telstra because i can run the apps that i have on my sony x1a and for its larger screen but the hd2 is a humungus beast. i like the form factor of the palm pre plus and may pick one up when it comes out on at&t. i do think wm is kind of a dying breed... especially if wm7 programs will not be backwards compatible.
Impulse
I woke up yesterday morning. Surf to look for a new present for myself (which falls today) and contemplating on Nexus One, iPhone or Milestone (Droid). Saw an advert on Touch HD. Looked at Touch HD2. Contacted the guy selling at 8am and bought it at 10am. Now my HD2 is 1 day old w me.
So far? Its much better than iPhone in terms of smoothness of transition and app (love snapdragon) and image quality. (my bro had the iphone so i compared) Could use a bigger batt. (have been using HP 910c and that has the big battery option at 1940mAh)
My personal opinion. Love it. Its nice.
Hey guys-
Please bare with me here . I recently purchased an almost brand new T-mobile HTC HD2 from a person on Craiglist for 300 bucks. Well it turned out that the phone the person sold me was defective, i.e. a hardware malfunction of somekind , and because T-mobile thought I had bought it through them online, they said it was covered under the "Buyer's Remorse" period. So because of this I sent the one I had originally bought back to T-Mobile for a replacement, and they are sending me a brand new one in the box with all the accesories, factory sealed. But, since I had a chance to play around with winmo 6.5, and HTC Sense, I hate them both. So my question is, because I'm getting a brand new HTC HD2, should I return this one in exchange for a refund and buy something like a nexus one? Or should I stick with this phone? Or...should I exchange the HD2 for something else on T-mobile's network? Any advice would be appreciated. Btw, I payed 300 for the original hd2 I bought, but T-Mo is sending me one worth $450, so it's like there paying me 150 bucks, and they didn't even ask for a proof of purchase, lmao. Kinda cool that's all.
-regards, Bobofosho123
I had the HTC HD and ended up not liking it at all, I really wanted to but just hated everything about it in the end with the exception of the camara. I ended up trading my HD with someone on CL for a T-Mobile 3G Slide and I LOVE it! Im originally coming from an iPhone which I loved but got tired of Crapple and not having 3G speed and this slide is turning out to be even better than my iPhone. It sells for almost the same price as the HD. Just thought i would tell you that and maybe you can send your HD back (if you dont like it) and see if they will give you a slide.
Yeah, thanks for the response. And to he honest, to go from a high-end phone like the HD2 down to a mid-range phone like the slide seems like a ripoff to me. If it's possible, I may return the HD2 to T-Mobile and ask for a check or cash back, if that's possible, and just buy a Nexus One or an ipad (maybe).
get the tmobile samsung vibrant due out july 21. 1ghz cpu, 4" super amoled screen. android phone
ryan562 said:
get the tmobile samsung vibrant due out july 21. 1ghz cpu, 4" super amoled screen. android phone
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i would say check out the android port for the HD2, but it isnt anywhere near completion and who knows how long it could be.
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i would say check out the android port for the HD2, but it isnt anywhere near completion and who knows how long it could be.
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The android port will probably never work like an android phone... it probably won't be good enough to use full-time instead of winmo for at least a year... so if you want android, get an android phone.
The guys here at xda are doing a fabulous job porting Android to the HD2. I've been reading their progress stream and a year to complete is ridiculous. These guys are making leaps and bounds. Recently they put Ubuntu Linux "successfully" on the HD2. No phone functions but what a triumph! Not going to be long for the full port. I'll keep my HD2 just in anticipation of their success. Thanks again developers for all your long hours and hard work. It's much appreciated.
and by the way, Microsoft is losing the battle against Android and will continue doing so. Microsoft's business plan is skewed. Get the product out by the deadline...even if it isn't finished. (Windows 95, 98, 98Se, ME, NT, 2000, XP, Vista...)The mobile 6.5 is the SSDD. It is PLAGUED with problems. I should know, I have one. Sorry for the soapbox everyone.
Hey, I agree, the progress on porting android to the hd2 has been, and this isn't an exaggeration, but I don't feel like waiting an entire year for a fully-working and bug-free android port. I think the smartest decision would be to go with the Samsung Vibrant, which has a screen that's almost as big as the HD2's and has android, and is for T-Mobile out of the box. So wouldn't that be the smartest decision? I do want an answer to that question by the way
The things is the HD2 just seems sleeker and more refined to me personally, sure the Vibrant may have the Android OS but I'll wait to get Android on my HD2.
Just my 2 cents.
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Hey, I agree, the progress on porting android to the hd2 has been, and this isn't an exaggeration, but I don't feel like waiting an entire year for a fully-working and bug-free android port. I think the smartest decision would be to go with the Samsung Vibrant, which has a screen that's almost as big as the HD2's and has android, and is for T-Mobile out of the box. So wouldn't that be the smartest decision? I do want an answer to that question by the way
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the samsung vibrant looks to be a good phone. if you've been reading some of the reviews on it you will find out that it has a better/dedicated GPU for gaming and graphics then our own hd2, nexus one, droid, iphone 3gs. its hummingbird processor is also considered to run faster/smoother than our own 1ghz snapdragon processor as well. on top of that, it's super amoled screen rivals that of the iphone 4 and performs better in sunlight then typical amoleds and offers better battery life.
you make the call. i may purchase the vibrant out of contract while keeping my hd2. good to have the best of both worlds for me. i also forgot to mention that you also have to worry about gingerbread and froyo updates via OTA from t-mobile. much easier to get them on an android-ready phone like the vibrant. samsung is going to release this phone on all major carriers so updates are on the horizon. (this is for those who think that samsung won't push for updates as they haven't had in the past)
bobofosho123 said:
If it's possible, I may return the HD2 to T-Mobile and ask for a check or cash back, if that's possible, and just buy a Nexus One or an ipad (maybe).
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This sounds like a really bad idea. Ever hear the phrase, "Take the money and run" Take the HD2 and sell it on ebay, then go buy what ever you want. If you have no receipt and your not listed as the owner on the account you may get screwed. What if this guy got the phone on a payment plan? What if he got the contract deal and they won't issue the refund and won't send you your phone once they discover the error. Just think about it a bit and count your blessings because this whole thing could of gone a whole other direction.
shamusmckinney said:
The guys here at xda are doing a fabulous job porting Android to the HD2. I've been reading their progress stream and a year to complete is ridiculous. These guys are making leaps and bounds. Recently they put Ubuntu Linux "successfully" on the HD2. No phone functions but what a triumph! Not going to be long for the full port. I'll keep my HD2 just in anticipation of their success. Thanks again developers for all your long hours and hard work. It's much appreciated.
and by the way, Microsoft is losing the battle against Android and will continue doing so. Microsoft's business plan is skewed. Get the product out by the deadline...even if it isn't finished. (Windows 95, 98, 98Se, ME, NT, 2000, XP, Vista...)The mobile 6.5 is the SSDD. It is PLAGUED with problems. I should know, I have one. Sorry for the soapbox everyone.
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Yes, they are making great progress... but there will probably never be a full "completed" port.... it will probably never run like an android phone. It's ridiculous to think it will. Have you used any of the other android ports for winmo phones? Some have been developed for years... and development went just as quick for some of them... and they are still a long way from being complete or "fully" functional. It will be awesome to have winmo, which I consider the best and most customizable mobile os, on my hd2 most of the time and be able to boot into android to use specific apps or play around with when I want. It will be somewhat functional in the next couple months (probably missing camera, and a few other things, and will probably be a battery drain... but usable)... but it will not be as functional as an android phone and probably not functional enough to want to use full-time on the hd2 instead of winmo for probably a year or so. Like I said... do some research... look at the development history of the other ports.
I also disagree about what you say about winmo... I've used it since 2003. I've also used android for a couple years.... Winmo is just as stable, and much more customizable and functional than android is at this point. I admit.. its not as user friendly... and it takes time and knowledge to set it up to use it's functionality. Android is quickly catching up as it's constantly being developed, and android was designed from the beginning to be a phone os. WinMo was designed to be a stand alone pocket pc os, and phone functionality has been added since the convergence of pocket pcs and phones... so the phone functions of it can be a little awkward or not implemented efficiently. But if you're looking for pc functionality, winmo blows android out of the water.
Don't get me wrong... I love android too... and can't wait for the hd2 port to be developed more... but be realistic with your expectations. There's plenty of past times this has been done to know what to expect with it if you do some reading. Android on the HD2 will be great... that's another great thing about winmo phones... they usually get android ported at some point. But if you want to use android full-time, its best to get an android phone. If you can't stand winmo, don't keep the HD2 expecting a perfect android port that runs like an android phone.
ryan562 said:
the samsung vibrant looks to be a good phone. if you've been reading some of the reviews on it you will find out that it has a better/dedicated GPU for gaming and graphics then our own hd2, nexus one, droid, iphone 3gs. its hummingbird processor is also considered to run faster/smoother than our own 1ghz snapdragon processor as well. on top of that, it's super amoled screen rivals that of the iphone 4 and performs better in sunlight then typical amoleds and offers better battery life.
you make the call. i may purchase the vibrant out of contract while keeping my hd2. good to have the best of both worlds for me. i also forgot to mention that you also have to worry about gingerbread and froyo updates via OTA from t-mobile. much easier to get them on an android-ready phone like the vibrant. samsung is going to release this phone on all major carriers so updates are on the horizon. (this is for those who think that samsung won't push for updates as they haven't had in the past)
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Yeah man, I'm watching some reviews on the vibrant now and it definitely looks like the phone for me, and I can deal with .3 inches less screen size, as compared to the HD2. Not to mention, the vibrant seems to have a better screen than the HD2 anyway. And to think I only paid 300 bucks for my HD2 on Craigslist originally, lmao!!!! I'm certainly going to get one hell of a trade here, woot woot !!!!
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Hey, I agree, the progress on porting android to the hd2 has been, and this isn't an exaggeration, but I don't feel like waiting an entire year for a fully-working and bug-free android port. I think the smartest decision would be to go with the Samsung Vibrant, which has a screen that's almost as big as the HD2's and has android, and is for T-Mobile out of the box. So wouldn't that be the smartest decision? I do want an answer to that question by the way
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You got to remember, when i first saw it on tmobile website, the Vibrant was in the list and it was sold for $350 bucks. And that was like 4 or 5 in the morning. I got really stoked because i thought tmobile watned to surprise anyone by releasing galaxy s. But turned out, it think it was their mistake for putting up the price tag. Anyway, my point is, no matter how good Vibrant could be, the hardware quality does not come any near my HD2. No matter how some people hate this device, they must admit it is the highest quality device out there. Vibrant has plastic back, no flash and 4in screen is a joke compared to 4.3 And heard it was light which doesn't feel expensive. Anyway, i'm waiting for even bigger one HD3. I know it is a rumor, but HD2 was a ridiculous rumor, but hey, i'm holding one right now.
Hi all
I was just wondering if you can share any comments what smartphone have best apps in 2011.
What you will buy after HD2 ?
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This is a question thats on my mind at the minute as well.
The main problem for me is that Ive become so used to the 4.3" screen that I really dont think I could handle using a phone with a screen of less than 4".
Im currently torn between the DHD, Nexus S, Incredible S, Desire S or the Sensation.
Im seriously thinking about waiting until June for the sensation, my concern is the battery though. HTC seem to be pretty lax when it comes to getting optimal battery life from a phone, the sensation with its dual core and new sense (which will probably be even more of a memory hog than the old sense) is going to tear the arse out of any battery.
Theres also the issue of how long its going to take to acheive root / s-off.... (Im very impatient and will not be able to put up with sense for that long, I really dont like the android version for some reason.)
DHD, obviously very similar to the HD2 with a good amount of development going on. However, poor battery life and the age of the device put me off a little. When I upgrade I'm going to have that phone for 18 months so I feel like I should probably go for a evice thats as new as possible.
Nexus, the only thing really putting me off is the fact that its made of nasty looking shiny plastic and doesnt feel as solid as the HD2. Also not a huge selection of custom ROMS for it from what I can see, compared to some devices.
So errr yeah... lol
Well I would recommend you to watch the latest updates at MIX 11 about WP7 Mango update I think you will like it a lot. And now that DFT is bringing Custom SPL to WP7 Source: Twitter (CotullaCode)
I think Android is great, it opens many doors specially for people on XDA, but the thing is. I always think android is missing the experience. It's not fun, and it's just an OS with apps. I will use Android till the end of my contract... And when the time comes I definitely get a WP7 device. Of course an 4.3"(+) screen. Once you get a fridge phone always a fridge phone Personally I'm waiting for Nokia to join the WP7 party, I know Nokia has the best and trustworthy hardware for their phones.
I just took Nexus S, actually looks not bad but screen is noticeably smaller. I did it because I wanted to resell my HD2 while still in warranty and Samsung are offering very good discounts on the SNS in France (it costs less than the Galaxy!). When Sensation comes out and price calms down I'll resell the SNS to get that marvel. Sadly, I'm hugely missing HTC Sense...
seriously even i am kinna confused i i say i want desirehd its been already ported to hd2 & so also nexus...i hope htc comes out dual core hd2...so we can start the fun all over again i know its not possible!
But ATM its just hd2 for me!
I think HTC EVO 3D will be my next phone after HD2 TMOUS
Simple, ....Another HD2
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Well I would recommend you to watch the latest updates at MIX 11 about WP7 Mango update I think you will like it a lot. And now that DFT is bringing Custom SPL to WP7 Source: Twitter (CotullaCode)
I think Android is great, it opens many doors specially for people on XDA, but the thing is. I always think android is missing the experience. It's not fun, and it's just an OS with apps. I will use Android till the end of my contract... And when the time comes I definitely get a WP7 device. Of course an 4.3"(+) screen. Once you get a fridge phone always a fridge phone Personally I'm waiting for Nokia to join the WP7 party, I know Nokia has the best and trustworthy hardware for their phones.
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Sadly I totaly disagree with your Nokia statement - they have lost the plot in high end phones over the last couple of years.
The N8 is a software nightmare, as was the 5800 and that range of phones.
Their new mid range phone C7 - C5 have software issues.
This is not just my view I work it Mobile technical support. Nokia are no longer the top manufacturer - they do not rate the top 5 now. Use Google and read the comments from their CEO, he says about the same!
Incredible is my next phone - if my provider supply it
I think that Iphone 4 is superior for the touch screen and for the smoothness of system...Nevertheless I'm waiting for new devices of Htc like Sensation or evo 3d to make a choice...
Samsung Galaxy S 2 anyone?
I've been wondering this too. I just bought an HD2, but of course, the phone is a year old already, and smartphones are now getting 1GB RAM, 16GB internal storage, and dual core processors.
Before long, the HD2 is going to be out of date.
Personally, the most attractive aspect of the HD2 to me is how incredibly hackable it is. If I were to upgrade, I would hope whatever phone I upgrade to would have several OSes available to use too (as opposed to just several derivatives of the same OS).
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Simple, ....Another HD2
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Hit the nail on the head there brother!
The HD7 is a minor temptation, but after playing with a Mozart I found that there is no connecting to a hidden network, or as a mass storage device. A shame as everything else is very nice in WP7.
So I am keeping my eye out for hot deals on HD2's
Edit: Forgot about the non-removeable/expandable storage in WP7 (I have 32Gb in my HD2)
probably getting sensation for daily driver but will be saving this HD2 because its superphone over anything, probably ever because of OS possibilities.
If there doesnt come any other better phones than sensation I will be getting it when it releases.
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Samsung Galaxy S 2 anyone?
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this or the htc sensation, im tempted to save the money and buy an s2 with the tegra 2 chip. It seems like tegra 2 will be widely supported and it'll have games optimised for it also it may lead to the phone being cracked faster.
For me there realy isnt any phone that beats HD2 (still). Im a WM6.1 ,WM6.5.x fanboy. the only hing that I miss at HD2 is harwware keyboard. but other then that it still is the perfect phone in my opinion. I never oliked phones that you get bored of quickly. HD2 has alot of development going on xda. you can have numerous OSes running on it. It never gets boring. I probably will not change my phone before there is realy something special (no, galaxy S 2 isnt special enough ).
At the moment I'm still torn between different OS's(ssssss). I've been warming to WinPho 7, but after reading over on Pocket Now about some of the things that might STILL be missing even after the Mango update later this year, I don't think I can wait. http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/windows-phone-7-mango-the-missing-features No smart dialing, no flash support in the browser? What on earth are Microsoft doing?
Having said I can't wait for Microsoft to get their act together, if I could stick a super LCD in my HD2 and a better camera sensor, I would happily keep it for another year or two until quad core chips are out and are selling at reasonable money.
The Sensation will be such a rip-off SIM-free here in the UK this summer I couldn't bring myself to buy one; there'll be much better and more efficient hardware out by the end of '11, beginning '12 ; )
G2x
Stock Android
Tegra Dual Core
4g
Supports a WIDE range of spectrums and supports ATT 3g along with T-Mobile's 4g and 3g
All screen and no keyboard.
It's literally future proof (since ATT will be eating Tmobile soon)
The SGS2 looks better than the Sensation in terms of specs?