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Need info on how similer the flashing methods are?

Hey everyone.
I have read alot of threads relating to the different ways to flash my samsung fascinate. They are all pretty easy to understand.
But i have a tablet, a Zenithink C91, It came with 2.3 and updates have been released from the manufacturer regularly.
The tablet comes rooted. On my tablet, when i reload, or upgradem i simply put the upgraded ROM zip on the SD card, hold the 3 buttons and it finds, loads and reboots all in one operation.
Why isnt the process the same on the fascinate? i mean once the phone is rooted, Why cant you just load a jellybeen ROM zip on the SD card and use the 3 button method.
I guess im not making the connection as to why its so much more complicated for the phone. I can reload 2.3 from 4.0, upgrade 2.3 to 4.0 without doing anything but putting the file on the sd card.
Is this because the updates are straight from the manu and for that specific model?
Hope that doesnt sound to stupid. Thank you for any help. Love the work bein done i try to donate much as poss.
Fry

for the fascinate you can actually view, select and flash more than once thing at once in recovery. we can't use the 3 button method due to a bug but you can boot into CWM using apps or a computer and then browse all your files and flash whatever you want. It isn't as simple but gives you a lot more freedom and options in how you do things.
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sageDieu said:
for the fascinate you can actually view, select and flash more than once thing at once in recovery. we can't use the 3 button method due to a bug but you can boot into CWM using apps or a computer and then browse all your files and flash whatever you want. It isn't as simple but gives you a lot more freedom and options in how you do things.
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Jt literally just fixed that a day or so ago. Lol. so it'll come soon enough.
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times_infinity said:
Jt literally just fixed that a day or so ago. Lol. so it'll come soon enough.
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For the fascinate you can actually view, select and flash more than once thing at once in recovery. we can't use the 3 button method due to a bug but you can boot into CWM using apps or a computer and then browse all your files and flash whatever you want. It isn't as simple but gives you a lot more freedom and options in how you do things.
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Thank you guys for the replys.
Is it the boot loop bug ur referring to for the 3 button method?
I guess if that is fixed the phone could be flashed alot like the tab then right?
What will have the JT fix when its released?

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Nexus tool similar to Samsungs' Odin?

Hello everyone!
I am planning to buy a nexus 4 as soon as it is back in stock. I currently have a gs2 and I realized that it has some amazing Dev support. Most of my phones have been Samsung, so I am most familiar with their development. What I mean is the Odin is an easy one click solution to most problems, and there is even mobile Odin so I can flash on the go!
It is quite amazing, I just flashed a stock ROM to get a GPS lock then back to cm10.1 with no issue, without a computer. These things have saved me on multiple occasions.
My question is, is the development here as advanced or more advanced? Are there tools that easily allow you to root, back up, restore, and flash your phone?
I have a nexus 7 and there is a tool that does that for PC, is it compatible with the 4? And is there anyway to do that on the phone?
My biggest concern is getting in over my head. I recently tried the galaxy s 3 and thought I knew what I was doing, but there was a surprising lack of development there, and returning to stock took me hours and many Google searches. Want to make sure the process is simpler here before I start messing with my new nexus 4. I am never worried about breaking my gs2. But on my nexus 7 I have left it as stock rooted because I didn't want to venture too far into unknown territory.
Thank you all for any answers.
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I think I answered my own question. I guess my question is: to those of you that have had Samsung phones and used Odin. Do you feel as supported and prepared as you did with those great tools?
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Censura_Umbra said:
I think I answered my own question. I guess my question is: to those of you that have had Samsung phones and used Odin. Do you feel as supported and prepared as you did with those great tools?
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I hate Odin. Give me fastboot and stock .img files and I'm "supported and prepared."
Also, before tackling a device, ALWAYS know how to fix a bootloop/soft brick. The fact that you're asking tells me you haven't read enough. No offense.

Please read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469909
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estallings15 said:
I hate Odin. Give me fastboot and stock .img files and I'm "supported and prepared."
Also, before tackling a device, ALWAYS know how to fix a bootloop/soft brick. The fact that you're asking tells me you haven't read enough. No offense.
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None taken. You are right. I have repaired all types of Samsung devices both hardware and software but this is my first nexus phone. Thank you for the answer though.
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El Daddy said:
Please read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1619716
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Thanks but that thread was about a dock.
I know how to use the nexus tool but I would like to know how I fix it by myself with the IMG for. Anyone that can point me to a thread about this?
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Censura_Umbra said:
Thanks but that thread was about a dock.
I know how to use the nexus tool but I would like to know how I fix it by myself with the IMG for. Anyone that can point me to a thread about this?
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My bad. I copied the wrong link. It has been fixed.
I am strongly against toolkits and the link I have corrected in my previous post explains why.
I'd suggest you read efrant's nexus 4 101 guide here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010338
Also check out jubakuba's guide sticked in the Q&A section. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2018179
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Used Odin on my T999,i9100/i9300, as well as i747.. It is nowhere near as simple as fastboot. Odin is great, sure but fastboot is much cleaner and much less can go wrong.
You started off on the right foot by asking and making this thread instead of just blindly flashing, so props. The two others that have responded are by far my favorites in the N4 forums simply because they know what they are talking about and respond much more than I do
Make sure you learn your fastboot commands and you will be able to recovery from bad flashes, etc easily and in a matter of minutes.
Also, the toolkit should only be used AFTER you are familiar with commands - and lastly it no longer links to stock images but a few members here have them on their personal dropbox accounts. I recommend downloading those so you have them handy.
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+1 on fastboot commands.
Know those commands and invest some of your time learning at least the basics. It will get you out of sticky situations. Not just for N4 but for future Android devices you'll own. Avoid root kits or at least until you know the concept behind how it does its thing.
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joshnichols189 said:
Used Odin on my T999,i9100/i9300, as well as i747.. It is nowhere near as simple as fastboot. Odin is great, sure but fastboot is much cleaner and much less can go wrong.
You started off on the right foot by asking and making this thread instead of just blindly flashing, so props. The two others that have responded are by far my favorites in the N4 forums simply because they know what they are talking about and respond much more than I do
Make sure you learn your fastboot commands and you will be able to recovery from bad flashes, etc easily and in a matter of minutes.
Also, the toolkit should only be used AFTER you are familiar with commands - and lastly it no longer links to stock images but a few members here have them on their personal dropbox accounts. I recommend downloading those so you have them handy.
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Well said!
I keep the stock .img files, as well as the drivers and adb folder (including fastboot) in my drop box so that I can access them from any computer in a pinch.
Thanks to undercover for that!

Censura_Umbra said:
Thanks but that thread was about a dock.
I know how to use the nexus tool but I would like to know how I fix it by myself with the IMG for. Anyone that can point me to a thread about this?
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Yay someone who doesn't want to use a toolkit. :sly:
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Toolkits are great for quick fixes or more advanced things (like flashing without increasing the flash counter) but I always worry that maybe the version I have is out of date. I've used fast boot commands in the post. But they have always fine with detailed instructions in a preset folder. The more I know about android the better.
Thanks for all of the help and the reading materials
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So I read the post about toolkits and I agree. But I have unbricked my phone using ADB before. And I think a toolkit like the nexus toolkit is useful because it has so many processes in one place. Easy and quick repairs for the flashaholic on the run. Though I will be rooting and installing cwm manually. I will probably use the nexus toolkit for its many easy to access features that have saved my nexus 7.
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Censura_Umbra said:
Toolkits are great for quick fixes or more advanced things (like flashing without increasing the flash counter) but I always worry that maybe the version I have is out of date. I've used fast boot commands in the post. But they have always fine with detailed instructions in a preset folder. The more I know about android the better.
Thanks for all of the help and the reading materials
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Just so you know, there is no flash counter to worry about here.
Also, this business about lots of things in one place is interesting, as there isn't much to have. Throw everything you need on drop box and you'll always have it. Your recovery img, bootloader.img, system.img, boot.img, adb/fastboot driver, etc. Then you're golden.
I think you're used to things being more complicated. Welcome to the world of Nexus.

This phone does have a dedicated "download mode," just like Samsung phones. A LG tool is probably out there somewhere. Is it public though?

estallings15 said:
Just so you know, there is no flash counter to worry about here.
Also, this business about lots of things in one place is interesting, as there isn't much to have. Throw everything you need on drop box and you'll always have it. Your recovery img, bootloader.img, system.img, boot.img, adb/fastboot driver, etc. Then you're golden.
I think you're used to things being more complicated. Welcome to the world of Nexus.
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I meant on other devices.
Also the toolkit has cwm injection, temp cwm, and about 20 other options. That is what I meant by fast and east
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Censura_Umbra said:
I meant on other devices.
Also the toolkit has cwm injection, temp cwm, and about 20 other options. That is what I meant by fast and east
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Yes it has all of those options but you don't even need 90% of them after you initially unlock the bootloader and root the phone
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Idk. They were pretty useful when my wife bricked her nexus
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Censura_Umbra said:
Idk. They were pretty useful when my wife bricked her nexus
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And are also a big part of the reason 50 bazillion threads asking "How do I unbrick my Nexus?" exist. Using a toolkit helps you postpone getting comfortable with fastboot and keeping the necessary files handy.
We can go back and forth on this for the rest of our lives. Do it whatever way works for you. I'm done.

Another good thing about the toolkit is that you don't have to download 20 different things. CWM, SuperSU, drivers...it is a one stop shop.

[Q] New to Nexus 7

up front sorry for all the noob questions....
I bought the nexus 7 from a co-worker, it was already rooted and loaded with CM 10.1.
I hear android images for 4.3 hit today, I don't want to loose root so what do I need to do?
About how long does it take CM to have 4.3 available?

Nobody knows. When source is released then the cm team will evaluate and attempt to merge the code.
Just wait patiently or learn how the entire system works and do it yourself.
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Pirateghost said:
Nobody knows. When source is released then the cm team will evaluate and attempt to merge the code.
Just wait patiently or learn how the entire system works and do it yourself.
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K, what about loading the 4.3 image, how is that done? And how do you root after?

russell1997 said:
K, what about loading the 4.3 image, how is that done? And how do you root after?
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You read everything you can. You obviously do not need to be trying to flash anything at this point or you will be back here asking how to recover your device. You need to spend at least a few days reading. As far as root goes, there is no method to root yet... It just came out.
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graydiggy said:
You read everything you can. You obviously do not need to be trying to flash anything at this point or you will be back here asking how to recover your device. You need to spend at least a few days reading. As far as root goes, there is no method to root yet... It just came out.
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Got any links on where to start?

The stickies in the general section and the QA section would be great places to start.
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graydiggy said:
The stickies in the general section and the QA section would be great places to start.
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OK, thanks!

graydiggy said:
You read everything you can. You obviously do not need to be trying to flash anything at this point or you will be back here asking how to recover your device. You need to spend at least a few days reading. As far as root goes, there is no method to root yet... It just came out.
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Will that's not quite true, I am on 4.3 and have root back with the new super user...
BUT, Russell, I agree with graydiggy. Read read read... There are stickies and info threads that tell how to root, unlock, flash.... Know how to do this before you go playing with new versions and CM night lies... and tempting as it may be, know enough beyond a "toolkit" to root, unlock etc... WUGFRESH has a nice tool but knowing is more than half the battle in this case... Enjoy CM 10.1 until you know enough, and they have 4.3 base... With some work, they will be about the same time...
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tbonezx11 said:
Will that's not quite true, I am on 4.3 and have root back with the new super user...
BUT, Russell, I agree with graydiggy. Read read read... There are stickies and info threads that tell how to root, unlock, flash.... Know how to do this before you go playing with new versions and CM night lies... and tempting as it may be, know enough beyond a "toolkit" to root, unlock etc... WUGFRESH has a nice tool but knowing is more than half the battle in this case... Enjoy CM 10.1 until you know enough, and they have 4.3 base... With some work, they will be about the same time...
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I stand corrected. Thank you.
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russell1997 said:
up front sorry for all the noob questions....
I bought the nexus 7 from a co-worker, it was already rooted and loaded with CM 10.1.
I hear android images for 4.3 hit today, I don't want to loose root so what do I need to do?
About how long does it take CM to have 4.3 available?
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Once you read up on how to flash different Roms you can just flash a rooted Google aosp 4.3 rom
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Updating Custom ROMs

I am using Purity 4.4 + Matrix 11.5 right now.
Now my question is how do you guys update your respective ROMs instead of flashing newer versions through recovery? I tried GooManager but it didn't work for me :-|

You should ask in thread about your rom. If devs do not do OTA update you must use recovery to update rom

I think most use recovery
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Download updated ROM zip file and flash through recovery (TWRP for myself).

no-skill said:
You should ask in thread about your rom. If devs do not do OTA update you must use recovery to update rom
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Well being a new member, I am not actually allowed to ask in ROM threads, that's why I asked here.
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Download updated ROM zip file and flash through recovery (TWRP for myself).
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That's what I have been doing till now but I thought there may be some other method to update ROMs.
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not for Purity. You must update through custom recovery.
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saifulh2304 said:
not for Purity. You must update through custom recovery.
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I guess that's the only option I have. Thanks

ankurk said:
I guess that's the only option I have. Thanks
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Yes, I'm sure its not that hard to do anyway
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saifulh2304 said:
Yes, I'm sure its not that hard to do anyway
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It's not hard but sometimes you get too lazy

Simple. Set up VM environment there are simple walkthrough video and once your set up you can pull straight out of the devs or any branch. I do my own when I feel I need to add a feature I do. There are a major variety of bases to choose from. Its much easier than many think. In my opinion its safer as I know exactly what I'm getting. Not to mention an addiction lay within too. Lol Have fun bro. Welcome to the machine. Many new devs are so stoked when the first ROM they build is complete they can't stop. Lol peace.
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Droid2drummer said:
Simple. Set up VM environment there are simple walkthrough video and once your set up you can pull straight out of the devs or any branch. I do my own when I feel I need to add a feature I do. There are a major variety of bases to choose from. Its much easier than many think. In my opinion its safer as I know exactly what I'm getting. Not to mention an addiction lay within too. Lol Have fun bro. Welcome to the machine. Many new devs are so stoked when the first ROM they build is complete they can't stop. Lol peace.
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I do know stuff about Android development but I am too scared to try that kind of stuff. Can you link me to those tutorials or videos?

Whats the easiest way to root a i337 with mk2 4.3?

I have a at&t i337 s4 with android 4.3 mk2 & I need to root it so I can get my safestrap going for my custom rom of choice..I lost root & last time I was running 4.2.2 & used kingo root..I tried that today but it was only good up to 4.2.2 not 4.3 from what I gathered..so whats the quickest easiest way for me to root now? I've done some research but found alot of confusing & conflicting results so thought I'd just ask here on xda where I've never been done wrong..thanks
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Hodgesdroid said:
I have a at&t i337 s4 with android 4.3 mk2 & I need to root it so I can get my safestrap going for my custom rom of choice..I lost root & last time I was running 4.2.2 & used kingo root..I tried that today but it was only good up to 4.2.2 not 4.3 from what I gathered..so whats the quickest easiest way for me to root now? I've done some research but found alot of confusing & conflicting results so thought I'd just ask here on xda where I've never been done wrong..thanks
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Look what I found with a little search...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2616221
Everything you need all in one package.
Be sure to thank the op of each thread that helps you, hell, why not thank them all?
Good luck.

John The Rhino said:
Look what I found with a little search...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2616221
Everything you need all in one package.
Be sure to thank the op of each thread that helps you, hell, why not thank them all?
Good luck.
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what's this "search" thing you speak of? such a foreign concept to everyone apparently.

toxicpaulution said:
what's this "search" thing you speak of? such a foreign concept to everyone apparently.
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Certainly seems that way.

XDA is here to help right ?
We all need to help are selves by reading/searching before posting extra threads about the most simple tasks in the "General Section"
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Already searched..already seen that post..all 32 pages of confusion..guess I will have to move on from xda if its just going to be full of smartass comments instead of real help..thanks for nothing..
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Hodgesdroid said:
Already searched..already seen that post..all 32 pages of confusion..guess I will have to move on from xda if its just going to be full of smartass comments instead of real help..thanks for nothing..
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We are trying to push you to do for yourself and learn wile doing so,most of us have been in your position a time or two and have had our uncomprehending questions but pulled through the negative to achieve the goals we want.Saferoot is the option you have with no risks to your phone or computer. Check my profile and see my stupid questions I've had in the past if it can make you feel better.ADB is not that bad if set up correctly.everything you search will bring you back to XDA so I will say good luck and you can do it
http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=uii_mYm8IGE&desktop_uri=/watch?v=uii_mYm8IGE&feature=y http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=...top_uri=/watch?v=uii_mYm8IGE&feature=youtu.be outu.be
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Thank you jBall..I really appreciate it as i am a total newb..I dont think i even have a dozen posts here on xda..32 pages of info with my ADD problem can be a little overwhelming... thats all I needed was a little help without the aditude..thanks..joe
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Hodgesdroid said:
Thank you jBall..I really appreciate it as i am a total newb..I dont think i even have a dozen posts here on xda..32 pages of info with my ADD problem can be a little overwhelming... thats all I needed was a little help without the aditude..thanks..joe
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I'm going to try to help you out bud so look in your private messages
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use vroot i found that the easiest. just download it and plug in your phone and it will root it and you are done

Kingo, don't have switch to supersu afterward.vroot works but have to switch to supersu for english