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[Q] Anyone else have a gap under the headphone jack?

I just exchanged my black MT4G due to dust under the screen and a strange gap on the backside (under the headphone jack) between the metal and the soft-touch material.
I had the salesperson pull out 2 different black MT4Gs and they all had that gap. We compared it with the white floor demo and there was no gap. What gives?? Is it just the black or the colored devices?
Anyway, I left with a new one with gap since apparently it's just a design flaw. I guess I should've asked around here before I went in to exchange it.
Hopefully the Epik case is out soon. If not I guess I'll need another case quickly. I don't want to find out the hard way that the gap leaves the phone vulnerable.
I hate that my beloved brand new phone isn't built as well as I first thought. Ah well, nothing a case won't fix I suppose. I still love it.

no gap on my black device, pried my case off to check, clear of any oddities

yup, same here. Black one with no gap.

no gap (blk) but you should take a pic cus it'd be nice to see exactly what your talking about (the way you said it makes it sound like you can fall into it lol)

No gap here. Black model.
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Whaddya know, my Red has a minute gap just under the headphone jack
If you hadn't said anything I wouldn't have noticed. Less than 1 mm

Spudge said:
Whaddya know, my Red has a minute gap just under the headphone jack
If you hadn't said anything I wouldn't have noticed. Less than 1 mm
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Glad I'm not the only one (sucks for both of us though).
I'll try to get a pic of it later today. It's definitely not big enough to "fall into" but it's there and big enough for me worry about dust, lint, or moisture getting in there. When I hold it to any light source I can clearly see where the metal forms around the headphone jack.

No gap by the headphone jack on my current white MT4G
but my first 2, white and black, both had imperfections on the metallic ring. They both had areas where they were not straight which created a gap if you looked at it the right (or wrong ) way.

My black MT has a tiny gap where you described. My wife's MT has the exact same imperfection. It's really narrow, though. Less than .5mm. My thought is this: It will cause no foreign particle issue any more than the speaker grill perforations or the headphone jack itself. This thing ain't water-tight (that's what she said) but I don't foresee any problem with it.

Antenna cover

On my DHD, the antenna cover isn't too much bad in alignment, but it slightly moves and sometimes makes noise.
So, after looking for the coupling, I thought to find a remedy.
I've put a piece of black scotch ribbon (for electrics use) over the SD and the SIM, from side to side of the phone.
I've only cut off a a small rectangle of ribbon, where are the golden contacts.
Now the antenna cover fit perfectly and is pretty silencious,
I think there is no problem to open it, but this is only a my home remedy.
Why not try ?

I had the same issue, did the same thing.
Still wasn't happy with it so I had it replaced, the new one fits correctly.
You might want to do the same thing.

casci said:
On my DHD, the antenna cover isn't too much bad in alignment, but it slightly moves and sometimes makes noise.
So, after looking for the coupling, I thought to find a remedy.
I've put a piece of black scotch ribbon (for electrics use) over the SD and the SIM, from side to side of the phone.
I've only cut off a a small rectangle of ribbon, where are the golden contacts.
Now the antenna cover fit perfectly and is pretty silencious,
I think there is no problem to open it, but this is only a my home remedy.
Why not try ?
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Thanks for this idea, can u post some photo or pictures .
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I've got the same problem with my one, most probably down to it being branded with the Orange logo.
Did you get your replacement from HTC themselves on the website?
I'm not keen on spending £18 for a new one which will be the same!

Not directly from HTC, I guess.
I took it back after about 2 weeks because of the issue.
The shop said it wasn't normal and gave me a replacment cover for free.

Permanently Fix SGS2 Echo and Digital Noise Reduction/Cancellation Problems

Hi All
I spent the last 2 days trying to find a simple solution to this problem. Even though my phone is still under manufacturers warranty and Service Providers warranty I decided to just do this as working carefully there will be no indication that the phone has been opened or the "fix" has been applied
I for one couldn't take my phone to a service centre as they would have booked in my phone and gave me some Nokia 3100 knock-off budget phone for one and the repair would have taken 21 days and having business requirements that my phone needs to meet I decided to just do it myself.
So I decided to open it up myself and fix it and here is the guide on how to permanently fix the echo that people get when phoning you.
Problem:
When you receive or make a call people on the other end of the line hear a echo of themselves and this might be intermittent but seem to be worse when having any type of cover on the phone.
Reason:
The reason this occurs is because the speaker depicted in the 3rd photo labelled as "B" has a rubber seal at the bottom of it that has gone loose from the casing by either a drop or some vibration that is making the speaker's sound go into the phone and picked up by the NC (Noise cancellation) microphone shown in the same photo as "A" rather than be isolated and out the speaker hole on the front of the phone.
Fix:
This fix is fairly simple and permanent. You only need a 5mm x 12mm piece of cardboard or think paper that is around 0.5mm thick that can be used as a buffer.
Procedure:
Step 1:
Picture 1 Shows the phone screws that should be removed 1st depicted by round red circles. Keep the screws in the same order as you remove them as only 4 of the 7 screws have locktite on them and be sure when you replace them you put them back in the same position.
Step 2:
Picture 1 As depicted from 1 to 6 is the easiest way to follow to unclip your back and front cover from one another to not break any of the clips. The back cover is very rugged so don't be afraid to unclip it as it is unlikely to break.
See Below Picture no1
Step 3:
Picture 2 is how it should look like when the back cover has been removed. We will only be focused on the area in the red block called ZZ
See Below Picture no2
Step 4:
Picture 3 shows the 2 components that's interfering with one another. "A" is the NC microphone sensor. Be sure to check that the sensor is properly inserted into the rubber sleeve covering it. "B" is the speaker and is glued with some ridiculously little amount of glue into the housing of "B" and can be lifted with a tweezers or some small object to be able to lift it out of the housing in "B"
See Below Picture no3
Step 5:
Picture 4 Loosen the speaker by just moving it in this aspect north and south a bit until it can be lifted up. Please note the arrow as it flips the way the arrow is pointing to expose the casing it is housed in. Clean out the housing of any dirt and wipe the speaker off as well of any dirt or substance that might elevate the speaker a little bit in its housing.
Step 6:
Picture 4 Flip the speaker back into its housing and firmly press it down so that it seats itself well in the housing. The rubber that the speaker is surrounded with should press firmly in the housing to seal it of any noise coming into the phone.
See Below Picture no4
Step 7:
This is where you use the piece of cardboard or thick paper of 5mm x 12mm by 0.5mm thick and place it over the speaker. I recommend cutting up a business card as they are the correct thickness. When looking at Picture 4 the cardboard should be covering the whole red block as depicted by "C" and should look like Picture 5 when placed
See Below Picture no5
Step 8:
Close up the phone and screw everything back together. The piece of cardboard or thick paper will ensure that the casing press the speaker tightly in place and keep it there without letting it leak into the phone to cause the echo effect for people calling you.
Step 9:
Enjoy calls without any echo effect.
This is all very simple to do and my echo has gone away completely. The replacement part they are referencing to in other topics is not really the problem and has nothing to do with it. In the process of replacing that part the speaker gets loosened and removed out of the housing and upon putting the phone back together they securely glue the speaker back in place and thats why they get the same results.
If this guide helped please post and say so. The problem has no relation to software or anything other than the speaker leaking sound into the phone being picked up by the NC.
Hope this helps. My phone is working 100% without any issues.

nice find!!! Ill wait for some more feedback untill i test this myself
So its samsung's fault that we have problems!

I tested 3 different brand new phones and all had the issue. Does this mean that Samsung fails to correctly assemble all of it's phones?!

manmad said:
nice find!!! Ill wait for some more feedback untill i test this myself
So its samsung's fault that we have problems!
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Ye to some extent. They should have used more glue to be honest but then it would have made it impossible to replace the part if it should break.
I fixed mine this morning this way that's why I made this post because I couldn't find anything to really help me to get this resolved and this is definitely the fix for it.

EQUANT said:
I tested 3 different brand new phones and all had the issue. Does this mean that Samsung fails to correctly assemble all of it's phones?!
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Think about it this way. Anything comes loose with vibration. Maybe the delivery company man handled the boxes a bit on delivery or the vibration on the phone itself while being shipped could have loosened it as well.
Remember the Speaker needs to be completely sealed off from the internals of the phone and that's why you need the buffer so that the casing can keep it firmly pressed in place and sealed off from the internals.
Been on the phone a lot today and every person I ask tells me there is absolutely no echo.
And that coming from a 100% guaranteed echo for the last month

so, anyone else tested this?

manmad said:
so, anyone else tested this?
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I would seem that ppl will probably do it and then not come back to post it worked because my "Thank You" count went up yet no replies
If your phone does this why not just do it? You have nothing to lose

Fixeeeed!!
OMG! It really worked thank you

I have tried this and it still seems hit and miss.
The case i use is a CaseMate Tough, it still echoes with this case fitted. If I use my other case a CaseMate Slim, it still echoes to a degree but not as bad.
Definatley no echo with no case though.
On a side note and not a whinge, probably worth mentioning in your guide which way the buttons go around when they fall out when you take the back off

hi toxic dust Thanks for your guide,i didn't apply the fix yet...i'm italian so it's alittle bit difficult for me to follow and understand every step.
Is it ok to use insulating tape (like black tape)??
And did i understand properly ...you have to cover with the tape the whole "C" area highlighted in red?
Thank you very much

Thanks, will try it.

You sir, are a genius!
I don't have the echo problem (even with my Otterbox) but I will definitely keep this thread in mind if something comes up.
Thanks.

gasss12 said:
hi toxic dust Thanks for your guide,i didn't apply the fix yet...i'm italian so it's alittle bit difficult for me to follow and understand every step.
Is it ok to use insulating tape (like black tape)??
And did i understand properly ...you have to cover with the tape the whole "C" area highlighted in red?
Thank you very much
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I prefer not to use anything with glue on it. You could probably use insulating tape (black tape) but you have to remember there are heat distribution on the inside of your phone and it might stick now but with heat applied any glue a specially on tape like that becomes soft and might short your phone as glue becomes conductive when in a liquid form.
Thick paper wont conduct at all and heat has no effect on it hence the preferance to a solid piece of thick paper or cardboard.
I used a Business card and cut that to the size I needed. I'm sure you could find a Business card of some sorts lying around
Yes. You have cover the complete section marked as "C". You will see that the marked section is the complete speaker. Just make sure that the paper is properly sized and is on it directly because you need it to securely press the speaker in place.
Definatley no echo with no case though.
On a side note and not a whinge, probably worth mentioning in your guide which way the buttons go around when they fall out when you take the back off
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Mine was echoing without a case so for me its a 100% fix
The buttons can actually go in any way round. It will just make your button a bit more stiff to press. If you want the button smooth it has little hinges. Those hinges have a little dent in them on the 1 side. Ensure that those dents show to the screen side.

Mine alsof does it without a case. I think I'm going to try it in a few days!
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Thx toxicdust. Your solution worked perfectly!!!
I had this echo problem since I started using the Samsung Galaxy S2 with a Melkco case and was frustrated about it. Then I decided to buy a larger accupack (Samsung 2000 mAh type EB-K1A2E). This came with a separate backcover so I needed another case. The new flipcase (Samsung EF-C1A2B) is compatible with this larger accu. I hoped with this new (Samsung!) case the echo would have disappeared, but no, it was not! After reading about this echo problem in a different forums I stumbled on your solution. This was the first one that was likely to be a good solution and not some quirky workaround. So I started following your instructions and can now say the echo is completely gone! Wow man, thank you for this. Some extra details: It was easy to take the 7 screws out, but a little uncomfortable to open the back after that. Most easy is to simply use your fingernail in between the front and back of the housing on the side and go around. In my case the speaker seemed not as loose as in your case, so I didn't bother to try further to take it out. Only thing I did was checking the fixing of the two mics (seemed okay), pushed the speaker unit carefully in its housing (but did not seem to move though) and put a small piece of a business card on the speaker as you indicated. See the white piece in the picture below. I think I made it al little bit bigger then your 12 x 5 mm. The acoustical feedback loop has broken this way, so it is a perfect solution which only takes 10 minutes to do.

I am convinced. I will try it tomorrow
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dutchiek said:
Thx toxicdust. Your solution worked perfectly!!!
I had this echo problem since I started using the Samsung Galaxy S2 with a Melkco case and was frustrated about it. Then I decided to buy a larger accupack (Samsung 2000 mAh type EB-K1A2E). This came with a separate backcover so I needed another case. The new flipcase (Samsung EF-C1A2B) is compatible with this larger accu. I hoped with this new (Samsung!) case the echo would have disappeared, but no, it was not! After reading about this echo problem in a different forums I stumbled on your solution. This was the first one that was likely to be a good solution and not some quirky workaround. So I started following your instructions and can now say the echo is completely gone! Wow man, thank you for this. Some extra details: It was easy to take the 7 screws out, but a little uncomfortable to open the back after that. Most easy is to simply use your fingernail in between the front and back of the housing on the side and go around. In my case the speaker seemed not as loose as in your case, so I didn't bother to try further to take it out. Only thing I did was checking the fixing of the two mics (seemed okay), pushed the speaker unit carefully in its housing (but did not seem to move though) and put a small piece of a business card on the speaker as you indicated. See the white piece in the picture below. I think I made it al little bit bigger then your 12 x 5 mm. The acoustical feedback loop has broken this way, so it is a perfect solution which only takes 10 minutes to do.
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Ye I had the same thing. No matter where I googled there was absolutely no solution and decided to trouble shoot myself as I wont be waiting 21 days to get my phone back with "No fault Found" response from them in any ways. I also have the extended battery and that made me also use they Silicone case that makes it even worse
After seeing how rugged the SGS2 is in the drop test on SmartphoneEnvy.com I decided to not use a case anymore as a 5 foot drop directly on the screen barely scratched the casing and the screen got no damage at all.
I am glad the solution actually works for more people and thank you for the picture. If you don't mind I will put it in my guide at the top for better illustration

It worked! Thanks alot. Let's hope it stays fixed
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Please read my post I have made the step by step instruction
Here the link below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21795243&postcount=62

Cool. Even though you used rubber its cool. At least it fix the problem
Regardless of what is used it needs to be about 0.5mm think. Also remember that you might have had something underneath the speaker keeping it lifted regardless of the amount of pressure you put on it that's why its recommended to clean the speaker and the housing

[Q] Is your camera 'perfectly' centered within the back cover cut-out?

So I've just got a new S4, and everything is great apart from one tiny thing (I'm a little ocd lol) that's bothering me slightly. Well at least it will bug me if mine is the only one, otherwise I'm fine with it.
My camera is not completely centred within the back cover cut out. It's very very minor but is ever so slightly further to one side (left) than the other. So the chrome ring touches the left side, but there's just a fraction of a gap between it and the right side.
Looking at review pics online I kind of think a few seem to be like that but it's hard to tell.
Realistically I'll be casing it anyway so it's not a big deal...but sometimes it's the little things that bug you!

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So I've just got a new S4, and everything is great apart from one tiny thing (I'm a little ocd lol) that's bothering me slightly. Well at least it will bug me if mine is the only one, otherwise I'm fine with it.
My camera is not completely centred within the back cover cut out. It's very very minor but is ever so slightly further to one side (left) than the other. So the chrome ring touches the left side, but there's just a fraction of a gap between it and the right side.
Looking at review pics online I kind of think a few seem to be like that but it's hard to tell.
Realistically I'll be casing it anyway so it's not a big deal...but sometimes it's the little things that bug you!
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Mine too im also kinda ocd, its the same, it has a bigger gap on the right side and the left side almost has no gap

I'm using an S-view cover. No problem.
Didn't notice how it was with stock cover. Have you tried to switch the cover with another one, just to make sure is not the camera which is not centered?

No i haven't but your right it could be either the camera or the back cover that's slightly out.
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Having looked at it further (and I think it's worth mentioning it's probably more obvious on white models), the camera is just off centre when the back cover is off, so it's not the cover that's the problem I don't think.
Looking at the ifixit teardown, their camera seems a little off centre once the cover is off too.
So how about everyone else? Is your camera dead centred or slightly off to one side?

Me too!
Me Gusta!

Hmm just to be sure... You guys know that there is a protective foil on the rear camera with the hole for lens. This foil can be a bit off to one side creating such effect.

slig said:
Hmm just to be sure... You guys know that there is a protective foil on the rear camera with the hole for lens. This foil can be a bit off to one side creating such effect.
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Nope, foil has been removed already along time ago
Me Gusta!

A Peak Inside the Priv

Just thought you all would like to take a little look under the cover of the Blackberry Priv. Apologies for image quality and lack of complete disassembly, I didn't want to burn my bridges for the warranty just for opening the back cover. If any of you are braver than I and feel like delving deeper, taking the cover is very easy. Just pry the left and right sides away with your fingernails so it is loose. Remove the SD card and SIM card tray. Then very carefully pry the top of the cover away from the device. Then simply slide the slightly tilted cover off the bottom, away from the speakers. From there you can see all the goods! I was just curious if I could find a discernible difference between the Samsung S series antennas and the Priv, for the sake of future MFT compatibility. It seems as though they both have the same antennas so the hardware difference must be chip-level. Bummer. Also you can see why the right side gets so hot with the battery and antennas sitting there.
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What does the front bottom look like? I'm curious how big the speaker is.

Xaiux said:
What does the front bottom look like? I'm curious
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...Giggedy!!

The front bottom is taken up by the speaker assembly, it's relatively large; it fills the entire bottom lip of the back case.

Do you have a US or EU model?

Thanks. I've been waiting for internal shots.

ToniCipriani said:
Do you have a US or EU model?
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I have the US model from AT&T.

I was thinking about opening the back and filling the empty space that plague the non-wireless charging variants of this phone

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The front bottom is taken up by the speaker assembly, it's relatively large; it fills the entire bottom lip of the back case.
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Can you test the speaker? Reports online, including my own Priv, only the left works(Mono), but in this picture it shows the Priv having both Left and Right speakers. Can you take a picture of the front of the phone where the speakers are?
I'm confused as to why they would include L & R stereo speakers but only the Left works, is the R disabled? or did we all get Priv's that are defective. I had a feeling the whole bottom was a speaker grill, and this confirms it......

The whole bottom is definitely not a speaker. It's only the left third or so.

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Can you test the speaker? Reports online, including my own Priv, only the left works(Mono), but in this picture it shows the Priv having both Left and Right speakers. Can you take a picture of the front of the phone where the speakers are?
I'm confused as to why they would include L & R stereo speakers but only the Left works, is the R disabled? or did we all get Priv's that are defective. I had a feeling the whole bottom was a speaker grill, and this confirms it......
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I also want to know the answer to this. Are units defective? It definitely shows two so why does everyone only hear mono sound from the left?

I don't think there's anything of the sort going on. Based on the pictures, since I'm not confident enough to peel the back off my own Priv, it looks like the thing you see on the right (left in the pic) is the control board for the 3.5mm jack combined with the mic, which presumably exists down there, since there's no other spot at the bottom of the unit where a mic could possibly be. It definitely only has the one speaker, but as far as I'm concerned, it's pretty exceptional for a phone. At least, I have no qualms with the sound from it, certainly much louder than any other phone I've had.
Forgot to add, I'm also confident that there's only one speaker because using Poweramp and toggling the Mono output setting, as well as the balance from Left to Right, everything only sounds like it comes from the one speaker.

Sorry guys, my mistake. I hadn't even tested my speakerphone until today. I based my assumption on the fact there is a baffle material under the span of the case baffle and the "L" and "R" label on the plastic assemblies on the board. I hadn't tried to disassemble it further. There is someone on YouTube that will give a complete teardown in a couple of days so if I don't see it posted I'll crack my phone open again to investigate.

That escalated quickly

gtfo of xda
gof!uckyourself said:
You can all suck my ****, you pricks. Your a bunch of wankers who are living in a basement. Go and get outside into the real world you low life mutant pricks. There's more to life than a spiders cobweb, and your dusty seats, also light exists. Nobody likes basement-dwelling losers who haven't seen a light before, except your screen. Cobwebs sure are nice aren't they? It's what you have for your meals. Now go **** yourselves you nerds, and go and eat some dog ****.
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oh wow you enlightened me! Thanks!

Great!
I just can't believe the OEM cover already scratches the Priv, I can see where are the pressure point of the plastic in just 2 days....
That is why I hate Hard Cases.

TheGeeZus said:
Great!
I just can't believe the OEM cover already scratches the Priv, I can see where are the pressure point of the plastic in just 2 days....
That is why I hate Hard Cases.
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Just remove from the case and pull plastic button inserts out. Take a mini philips screwdriver like for eyeglasses and scrape the little piece of plastic out on both sides. There will be 2 on left and 2 on right then use super glue to adhere the plastic buttons directly to where the little plastic pieces were above and below the buttons. It works for me and no indentions.

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Just remove from the case and pull plastic button inserts out. Take a mini philips screwdriver like for eyeglasses and scrape the little piece of plastic out on both sides. There will be 2 on left and 2 on right then use super glue to adhere the plastic buttons directly to where the little plastic pieces were above and below the buttons. It works for me and no indentions.
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Should have done that before but I am humanly struggling with my "OCD" and trying to forget about it, but will leave it like that as the damage is already done and I really want to save the hassle with an exchange.
Thanks for the tip anyways

TheGeeZus said:
Should have done that before but I am humanly struggling with my "OCD" and trying to forget about it, but will leave it like that as the damage is already done and I really want to save the hassle with an exchange.
Thanks for the tip anyways
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I think they addressed the problem because the rivets on the one I received the other day were flat as heck and did not protrude like photos I've seen. There wasn't anything to cut with an exacto even if I wanted to. It's still a plastic piece of junk though ($40?!) and I decided to just use a pocket pouch...brings me back to the G1 days

BlueEditionE6 said:
oh wow you enlightened me! Thanks!
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What in the name of cobwebs happened here!